Author Topic: Religious T-shirts (Read 4095 times)

mrfish · « **Reply #75 on:** November 11, 2002, 03:32:40 PM »

bring me cheetos sob! golden cheetos damnit!

SOB · « **Reply #76 on:** November 11, 2002, 03:37:23 PM »

Eh?, that's apples and oranges. If you believe in something that can't be proven, it's faith. It's a fact if it exists. Does the boogieman exist until proven otherwise just because your kid is afraid of him when the lights go off in their room?

SOB

Kieran · « **Reply #77 on:** November 11, 2002, 03:38:16 PM »

huh. Let me, in my imperfect English, try to 'splain it one more time.

The more I talk, the more I push people the other way. This isn't about me and my ego, this is about me doing the right thing by my God and Savior. So, in that light, you win the debate.

Even if that means you believe I am being WASPY or can't take the heat. (hah!)

Kieran · « **Reply #78 on:** November 11, 2002, 03:39:00 PM »

Why, yes, the boogeyman DOES exist, except we call them "demons".

SOB · « **Reply #79 on:** November 11, 2002, 03:39:37 PM »

Yes, cheetos my savior! And wet naps to cleanse thy self before the porn, so thy mighty johnson shall not be tainted orange?

SOB · « **Reply #80 on:** November 11, 2002, 03:40:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Kieran
Why, yes, the boogeyman DOES exist, except we call them "demons".

Shit. I knew mom was lying!

SOB

AKIron · « **Reply #81 on:** November 11, 2002, 03:44:20 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
Eh?, that's apples and oranges. If you believe in something that can't be proven, it's faith. It's a fact if it exists. Does the boogieman exist until proven otherwise just because your kid is afraid of him when the lights go off in their room?

SOB

There have been many "facts" over the centuries that later, under the scrutiny of enlightened reason, turned out to be less than factual. Facts are nothing more than what is popularly believed to be true. imo.

SOB · « **Reply #82 on:** November 11, 2002, 03:46:18 PM »

Yeah, whatever. Next you'll have me believing the earth isn't flat!

SOB

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #83 on:** November 11, 2002, 03:54:28 PM »

After this brief warmup... could we move on to the real issue: bumperstickers

I see fish with IXOTE written in them
I see fish with feet with DARWIN written in them
I see rainbows on the backs of cars
I see naked ladie silouettes with their feet kicking in the air
I see bumperstickers pronouncing how great kids are
I see bumperstickers pronouncing how tired of kids someone is

I've just never seen a bumpersticker that made a car look better.

AKDejaVu

mrfish · « **Reply #84 on:** November 11, 2002, 03:57:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Kieran
huh. Let me, in my imperfect English, try to 'splain it one more time.

The more I talk, the more I push people the other way. This isn't about me and my ego, this is about me doing the right thing by my God and Savior. So, in that light, you win the debate.

Even if that means you believe I am being WASPY or can't take the heat. (hah!)

so what if it pushes them away? why do christians buy houses? why do y'all have jobs and make long term investments and why are you worried about pushing someone away? if the building was on fire you'd shake them and beg them to run for their lives and jesus 'done' told you it was so why don't you get off my tv screen and get shakin!

you are supposed to believe that jesus could come back at any moment! why don't you sell everything you own take off walking - sleeping as little as possible and having faith that the lord will take care of you - just spending all your time trying like hell to save souls and spread god's word?

because it wouldn't go over well in this day and age? so what- did it go over well in jesus' day? how did they receive him and his disciples?

it might distance people? so what - that's a cop out, your actions would probably do more to convince people than your weirdo threats. all these preists have been making excuses for you all to live comfortably over the centuries but if you really believe shouldn't you be out there doing what he told you and smiling at the sky?

"There have been many "facts" over the centuries that later, under the scrutiny of enlightened reason, turned out to be less than factual"

actually iron - in this day and age our understanding gets more complex but not necessarily wrong - i could describe the motion of some thing using newtons laws but einsteins are more precise - bohr's model of the atom wasn't perfect but it was close, heisenberg understood it much better- even the greek idea of circular orbits was at least close - kepler straightened that right out and so on and so on.... it just keeps getting clearer and it may be impossible to ever know the full truth but we don't need to.

- it's all about understanding that you don't have all the answers and spending your efforts trying to make closer and closer approximations of the truth- what else ya gonna do, just read genisis and leave it at that? that's wasting our ability.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #85 on:** November 11, 2002, 04:04:00 PM »

A strange observation...

Athiests are always more likely to thrust their lack of religion on someone than a religious person is to thrust religion on you.

Basically, I know quite a few Christians and seldomely is anything really unloaded on me. I know a few athiests (or so they claim) and they never shut up about it.

AKDejaVu

fd ski · « **Reply #86 on:** November 11, 2002, 04:39:35 PM »

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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
A strange observation...

Athiests are always more likely to thrust their lack of religion on someone than a religious person is to thrust religion on you.

Basically, I know quite a few Christians and seldomely is anything really unloaded on me. I know a few athiests (or so they claim) and they never shut up about it.

AKDejaVu

Funny, i never had an athiest come to my house and give me the "lack of god loves you" lecture.

What planet are you on ?

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #87 on:** November 11, 2002, 04:45:28 PM »

Can't say I have either...

But can say I've had to spend several lunch hours listening to athiest spew the same rhetoric you've posted here. I can't say that I've had a Christian do it once. Had a Mormon try once, but he actually responded to a polite "No thanks". Athiests... they just don't respond to anything.

AKDejaVu

midnight Target · « **Reply #88 on:** November 11, 2002, 05:08:36 PM »

Good thread, and not too antagonistic either.

I am sometimes envious of those who can have such a strong religious faith. I have a friend who revels in his Christianity, and claims that it changed his life for the better. It probably did.

I just don't have the capacity for that kind of suspension of my beliefs, for that is what it would take. Too bad really.

mrfish · « **Reply #89 on:** November 11, 2002, 05:12:38 PM »

tell you what kieran -

what i'd like to see is a bunch of christians out in a cornfield in iowa - living there tonight and somewhere else the next, carrying everything they own on their backs, not knowing if they'd wake up and jesus would be there to settle things out, never knowing exactly how they'd get by or where they'd sleep - moving along preaching about god, spreading the word and all out rejoicing. you know- living like the bible said to-

is there even one christian living that way today in america? i've never seen it - if there was such a movement it might be worth having faith in

no hard feelings i hope