Author Topic: Somebody said me once............  (Read 1437 times)

Offline minus

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 595
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2001, 02:19:00 PM »
and i saying something against HT ???

just i em sure the problem is the language barier ,, anyway still dont know exactly what word ,,whine,, realy mean in my lang just have intuition what it can be


PS:  LW whiners , on next post prepare your English language doctorat !!  is condition now  on BBS!!  :D

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2001, 03:13:00 PM »
Improvement all FM and GM, N1K, Spitfire IX and 109G (specially G6).
N1K2 is getting a new FM in 1.08.  What is wrong with the Spitfire MkIX and Bf109 FMs?  What is "GM"

Motor damages by heating.
I agree with this.

Include pilot fatigue
I think this is silly and essentially a whine about turn fighters actually having a prayer to survive.

No CT
I don't understand what you mean.

No Autotrim when pilot loss knowlledge by injuries
Seems good to me.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Zippatuh

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 963
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2001, 03:45:00 PM »
Pilot fatigue is already modeled.  Don’t know about the rest of you but it seems sometimes that my skill is in direct proportion as to how long I’m online.  Unless of course I just start out crappy  ;).

Zippatuh

Offline straffo

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 10029
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2001, 03:53:00 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Zippatuh:
Pilot fatigue is already modeled.  Don’t know about the rest of you but it seems sometimes that my skill is in direct proportion as to how long I’m online.  Unless of course I just start out crappy   ;).

Zippatuh

I agree, it's modeled since the  beta  :)
(flying between 22:30/24:00 wake up a 6:00 is hard  :))

Offline necro_v

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2001, 02:15:00 AM »
To Hitech:

I was who translated garrido text to, so this confusion could be "mea culpa". In any case I do not see where it is the offensive text and the respect is lacked to nobody.

 
Quote
Now you just got lowered to the class of a whiner and do not derserve a response, so don't expect one.

Hitech, please, you know your answer is an excuse only. Simply you haven´t a real answer.

I think many stuffs in AH are this way to do easier novice playing (autotrim, etc), but it´s less real.

But i understand it, more novices mean more MONEY. Typical thing.

Hey, this words are mine, no from Garrido.

P.D.- My english is poor, i know it  :).

Necro_v
Grupo 21 FARE

Offline Urchin

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5517
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2001, 02:32:00 AM »
Just because something is "good for newbies" doesn't mean it is "bad" for everyone else.  I think CT is "combat trim", not "combat theatre".  

I'd be all for engine damage if you run it beyond specs for to long- the problem is that we don't HAVE personal airplanes.  I mean, a real WW2 airplane probably COULD run at full manifold and full RPM for one mission and be just peachy.  It would be getting ragged after 2 or 3 sorties, but how can we expect HTC to model that?

Hell, combat trim isn't *just* for newbies (well, unless you consider me a newbie), I still use it.  I'll adjust my trim from time to time, but by and large auto-trim works just fine for me.

Pilot fatigue is probably not modelable, I mean can they model the adrenaline that would be pumping through you in the fight?  Or maybe they model both fatigue AND adrenaline, and the adrenaline wins?  :)

Whats wrong with the 109G6's flight model?  It flies like the clunkiest 109 in my opinion, but I thought it WAS one of the clunkier ones historically.  They've already said that the FM for the N1K and the La7 (and the C-Hog and P-47D11) are going to be adjusted, as well as flap and stall behavior for all planes, so what more can you ask until you see what 1.08 brings?

As far as the translator goes.. Ram is right, those things are big POS's- they mangle stuff.  I doubt if Supongo started that message the way it came out.  I could be wrong though, but I do think he has a valid point about people piling on other people just because they fly the "bad guy" planes...

Offline garrido

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 85
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2001, 03:53:00 AM »
Siento que mi post no se haya entendido con nitided, lo pondre en español, asi si alguno lo desea podra hacer una traduccion mas exacta de mis palabras.
Creo entender que mi post a herido la sensibilidad de algun miembro/jugador de AH, mi intencion NUNCA ha sido esa. la gente que me conoce sabe que NUNCA insulto.
Si alguien se a sentido ofendido le pido sinceras disculpas.

"Fly AH, it´s the more realistic sim, its FM, DM, etc are near 95% reality or more"

Alguien me dijo (me refiero a un buen amigo mio): Vuela AH (el queria que dejase WB y probase AH, y lo consiguio) su modelo de vuelo y su modelo de armas es parecido a la realidad en el 95%"

If someday i see this friend, i´ll castrate him XD. AH doesn´t approach to 70%.

Si algun dia veo a este amigo, lo castrare (frase jocosa en español, que puede haber sido mal interpretada al traducirse, y que se refiere EXCLUSIVAMENTE a este amigo). AH no se acerca al 70% de la realidad (es mi sincera opinion).

Many basics things aren´t included, things i tell them many times and i´d been humilled always, but i want insisting:

Realmente no recuerdo que quise decir con esto, y mi traduztor da una respuesta incoherente, solo me deja claro que puse "siempre he sido humillado por mis quejas (opiniones)", y me reafirmo, siempre que he intentado dar ideas para mejorar AH me han llamado "lloron" o "quejica de la Luftwaffe", pregunto, ¿es normal tratar asi a alguien por opinar e intentar mejorar un juego?.
Si hablo sobre derribos a 700,800,900 yardas o mas, me dicen: "quejica aporta pruebas", que ocurre ¿que nadie ha sido derribado a esa distancia excepto yo? Se que hay muchos que lo han sido y lo siguen siendo, pero por el motivo que sea (posiblemente para que no les llamen llorones) no escriben su respuesta afirmativamente.

Improvement all FM and GM, N1K, Spitfire IX and 109G (specially G6).

Pido aqui que se revise el modelado de vuelo y el de armamento del N1K (parece ser que se hace en la 1.08), del Spitfire IX (pienso que esta modelado en exceso "overmodelled", ¿o ustedes creen que es normal la poca perdida de E en los virajes, subidas etc y que recupere esta E tan rapidamente? Que ocurre, ¿que el ser un avion mitico hace de el un superavion? Porque sinceramente, en AH es un superavion, y eso es estar mal modelado.
El 109, en especial el G6 tiene muchos fallos, y no solo a favor, sino en contra tambien. Procuro ser imparcial, no apoyo mas a los aviones de la LW que a los de la RAF, USAF etc.

Motor damages by heating.

Vale, lo admito, parece ser que en la WWII todos los aviones podian volar al 100% de revolucion motor sin sufrir daños durante todo el tiempo de vuelo. XD

Include pilot fatigue

Vale, lo admito, cualqier piloto de la WWII podia girar y girar, entrar continuamente en Redout o blackout, realizar continuamente bruscos cambios de direccion sin que su cuerpo sintiese los efectos perniciosos que esto supone. Ah, y parece ser que el avion tampoco tenia fatiga estructural con estas maniobras. XD


No CT

Me refiero al combat trim, no a la Arena.
Ya lo dije una vez y lo repito, existe la TA y el H2H para que un piloto aprenda a usar los Trim's, cuando vuele en la MA o la CT que no se puedan usar. Y si, estoy de acuerdo (por si alguien lo pone) que el Trim ajustable por el piloto deberia estar colocado solo en aquellos aviones que dispusieron de esa posibilidad realmente.

No Autotrim when pilot loss knowlledge by injuries

¿Ustedes creen que es normal que un piloto que pierde el conocimiento o que ve mermadas su capacidad de vuelo por una herida durante un picado, viraje o ascension pueda colocar el avion en piloto automatico?
¿que volamos, aviones de la WWII o 747?


You can continue insulting, i´ll continue requesting until Pyro or HT will deign to answer this messages and say what they do

Y como ven ustedes, me siguen llamando quejica y lloron de la LW, tal y como predije, ni nostradamus lo hubiese hecho mejor XD.

Hitach, no se donde ve usted los insultos, mi intencion no es insultar, es hacer mas grande AH, mas real.
Recuerdo muchos post mios (revise el historial) en que seguia dando ideas y nunca (que yo recuerde) fui repsondido por el equipo de HTC.

¿Donde ven ustedes mi mala intencion?
¿los fallos de AH estan solo en mi imaginacion?

Un saludo

Supongo

Offline -tronski-

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2825
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2001, 04:13:00 AM »
I personaly think some type of engine failure /damage model (especially for the Me262) could be interesting, apart from of course what we already have.
 
I do however think that it would open the door to the tech wienies and their : this XXX type engine could do XXX MPH at XXX Alt, and NO WAY could fail in the history of mankind, arguments.

Pilot fatigue.....err ok my flights don't usually last that long to warrant such thinking. I ususally spend my fatigue time floating to earth under a silk canopy...

Tronsky

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: -tronski- ]
God created Arrakis to train the faithful

Offline garrido

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 85
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2001, 05:01:00 AM »
oye RAM, porfa, traduce mi post

Saludos

Supongo

P.D.: di tambien a hitech que ya puede responder al post cono conocimiento de causa, al estar (se supone) mejor traducido que el anterior.

Offline Pepe

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1020
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2001, 05:33:00 AM »
Supongo's post translation (notes on italic font):
--------------------------------------------
"...I believe that my post has harmed several AH member/player's sensitivity. That was NEVER my intention, and people who knows me can tell that I NEVER insult anyone. If anyone has taken offense, I offer my sincere appologies.

Somebody told me (a good friend of mine): 'Fly AH (he wanted me to leave WB and try AH, and he made it), its FM and weapons model is 95% close to reality.'

If I ever see this friend, I'll castrate him (this is a joke prase in Spanish, which could be misunderstood due to bad translation, and relates EXCLUSIVELY to this friend), as AH simulation don't get close to 70% of the real thing (it's my honest opinion).

'Many basic things..... ,but i want insinsing' <- Actually, I can't recall what I was trying to say with this, my machine translator gives me incoherent translations, and only states clearly that I posted 'I've always been humiliated because of my whines (opinions)', and I stick to this, every time I've tried give my ideas to improve AH, I've been called cry-baby, LW-whiner. I say, Is it normal treating somebody like that on giving opinions and trying to improve a game?.

If I talk about 700, 800, 900+ yds kills I am told: "whiner, prove it", what happens here, nobody but me has been killed at this distances? I know there are lots of them who have been and who are killed like this, but for whatever reason (problably to avoid being named as whiners) they do not post their answers affirmatively.

-------------------------------------------
[Nota a Supongo: no sé que quieres decir exactamente con escribir su respuesta afirmativamente] - [note: literal translation, don't know what he wants to say precisely with ...post their answers affirmatively....
--------------------------------------------

'Improvement all FM.....specially G6' <- I'm asking here for a FM revision on the N1K (it seems it will be done in 1.08), Spitfire IX (I think it's overmodelled...do you think it's normal the little E-bleeding in turns, climbs, etc. and the recovery rate in terms of E? What happens here? being a mythical plane make it a superplane? Because, honestly, Spit AH is a superplane, and this means a bad model.

109's, specially G6, have many mistakes, both overmodels and shortcomes. I try to be neutral, I'm not supporting LW planes more than RAF, USAF, etc. ones.

'Motor damages by heating' <- OK, I admit it, it seems like all WWII planes could fly full military power for all his flight time without damage. XD->  :D

'Include pilot fatigue' <- OK, I admit it, every WWII pilot could turn & turn, black out & redout on a regular basis, make hard heading changes without his body suffering any adverse effect. Oh, it seems like planes didn't suffer structural fatigue with this manouvers, as well. XD ->  :D

No CT
I'm talking about combat trim, not Arena. Combat Theater?

I told it once, and I repeat: we have TA and H2H so a newbie can learn to use trims, and they won't be able to use them in MA or CT. And yes, I think (just if anybody post it) pilot adjustable trim controls would be available only aboard those planes that had actually this option.

'No autotrim when pilot loss knowledge (conscience] by injuries' <- Do you think it's normal having an unconscious or  hadicaped by injures pilot able to connect Automatic Pilot? What planes are we flying? WWII's or 747?

'You can continue.....say what they do' <- And, as you can see, I'm told LW whiner and cry-baby, exactly as I told. Even Nostradamus could not beat me to it.   :D

Hitech, I don't know where you see insults in my post, my intention is not offending anyone, it is making AH bigger, more real.

I recall many of my posts (review roster) where I was throwing ideas and I've never (as far as I can recall) had an answer by HTC team.

Where do you see my malicious intention?

Are AH mistakes only in my imagination?

Greetings,

Supongo"

-------------------------------------------

whew! Supongo, esto no lo vas a arreglar con 5.000

[edit] dang UBB code  ;) [/edit]

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Pepe ]

Offline Pepe

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1020
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2001, 05:39:00 AM »
Supongo,

Relájate y disfruta. AH es lo mejor que tenemos, de momento.   :)


Rest of you,

As far as I can tell, Supongo is a class act. He is kind, and never, ever has insulted anyone.

He is a helluva 109 pilot, as lots of you can tell   ;)

While he is oversensitive when it comes to the simulation and would like to have somebody puching him when he gets hit, for realism sake  :D, I trust him when he says he is posting his honest point of view, and I trust him when he says he wants to improve AH. I know his "improvements" won't be bread&butter for all of us, but still he is honest when he post his ideas.

Cheers,

Pepe

Offline Leslie

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2212
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2001, 05:43:00 AM »
Hola Supongo.  Mi interes yace principalmente con tu post, porque yo trato de practicar el Castellano cuandoquiera posible.  En mi opinion, es una lengua hermosa y practicante tambien.  En cuanto a los puntos que se de hablabas, yo puedo decir definitivamente, que no tengo conocimientos ningunos de los avionicos del 109. Sino me parece que tu eres un piloto que te gusta pilotar el 109, y por eso te saludo...lllllooooron, jeje. <G>  En serio, tal vez veremos cambios al nuevo patch (1.08) que satisfaceran todo el mundo.  Esperamos!  

Es bueno conocerte de nuevo.  Ten cuidado amigo.  Espero verte en el MA un dia, como Rook, por favor.

SSS,

Leslie
SC-Bama     :)

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: SC-Bama ]

Offline garrido

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 85
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2001, 06:01:00 AM »
Muchisimas gracias Pepe, de corazon.
Tanto por tu apoyo como por la traduccion.

Un saludo

Supongo

Offline garrido

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 85
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2001, 06:02:00 AM »
Gracias Leslie.
me agrada verte.
Me veras, y de rook  :)

Un saludo

Supongo

Offline necro_v

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Somebody said me once............
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2001, 06:23:00 AM »
Yo tambien estare alguna vez en AH. ¿el nick? no lo se. ¿el bando? tampoco lo se  :).
Lo que si se es que prometo no poner nada en ingles, no sea que Hitech se mosquee por un malentendido (que le ha venido muy bien para poner una excusa por otra parte  :) ).

Traduce esto tb PEPE, por favor, que mi ingles ... ya se sabe xDDDD.

Necro_v