He-111 Bomber

[hyena426]

i agree with that my self,,,but when i see them ad a bomber like the kate<~i bet money that the he111 would of seen more use in aces high than this poor thing,,,and as for the sea,,you know the pby has to be next,,it seen action on every end of the world,,and even stopped a possible invasion of alaska that i read about once<~~good plane,,very reliable,,,i hear they even dive bombed with the poor thing,,even know it wasnt made to do it,,i guess it would dive bomb,lol<~~would be a scary site too see,lol but would take both pilots to get her out of a dive,,hhehe


i think aces high does a great job,,im happy to be able to fly in it,,im just here tring to show people how great these planes were so that they wont be skipped up in the next few updates for planes that were hadly used or produced,,,we need the front line planes first,,then we can have room for experimental planes and hardly produced models,.,right?

[Naso]

LOL Hyaena, there is for sure a language barrier between us.

I repeat again in a simpler form:

The He-111 it's not an italian plane.

If some italian plane have to be modeled, it's the SM-79, the most representative italian bomber of the war.

The only italian bomber suited for the Main is (as already I have stated) the Piaggio 108, that is almost of the same class of the B17.

There's another italian bomber that will be nice to have, the Cant Z.1007.

You understand?

He-111 it's not italian.

[Naso]

Originally posted by hyena426
<~it was not better than a he111,,,,its barely faster than a he111,,it only carries half of the bomb load,,and wasnt produced in the numbers that the he111 was<~~how can you have b.o.b with out this plane?,,,thats like not having butter on your toast,lol

Whats the connection between Italy and BoB (Br20 aside?)

well,,your wrong , Ernst Heinkel AG; also built in France on German account by SNCASO; built under licence by Fabrica de Avione SET, Romania, and CASA, Spain<~~look how many countries produced the he111,,just like pby for allies,,it was made and used by about all the german allies,,spainish needs a bomber too:P

So the He-111 it's a french bomber?

does'nt seem so ugly (Sorry Straffo )

and used way more than the sm-79 and produced in 4 times the numbers<~~why is the sm-79 more suited for main?,,it wasnt as tuff as the he111 ,,it wasnt used as much as the he111,,and the bomb load in the early version and late one's were only half of what a he111 could carry,,allmost 8,000lb he111 could carry by late war<~~more than a b17 does here now,,and i would like to see that sm-79 even think about carring that many bombs,,it would break in half:)

The 108 it's more suited for main, the SM 79 will be cannon fodder.

You still are asking a German plane as it was Italian, and you are wrong.

[hyena426]

Whats the connection between Italy and BoB (Br20 aside?)

who said italy had anything to do with bob?,,lmao!! {knocks on head} hello mc fly!!,,lol<~~ were did i say italy had anything to do with bob? are ya reading it all wrong?,,im just giving reasons it should be here,,and yes it was used in the spanish war ,,when italy was tring to win spain over to there side,,germans helped and there was plenty of he111 in both counties by the start of ww2

So the He-111 it's a french bomber?  

,,yes,,matter of fact,,they retooled alot of there factories to produce there own wepons,,did you know the germans used the french 75mm cannon  too?,,because it was so easy make,,and such a good gun to build
i think you need to read more bout the he111,,,,well for those who dont know,, spanish built the he111 too,,matter of fact!! one of the only ones left flying in the confederate airforce is a spanish built he111!!

You still are asking a German plane as it was Italian, and you are wrong.

<~~lmao,,,were did i say it was only a italian bomber?,,,i said it was used by all those countries and then some<~~every bit of info i have got from books and online specs ,,if you have a problem with my information you can go bug the history keepers about it or the web sites,,and see what they say about it,,lol,,,because i wasnt there,,and i know you wasnt too,,all my info is from books and web sites<~~and most of it is right on the money like it or not

well,,your wrong , Ernst Heinkel AG; also built in France on German account by SNCASO; built under licence by Fabrica de Avione SET, Romania, and CASA, Spain

<~~dont beleve me,,look it up for your self,,thats all i got to say about that

i dont know why you think just because a bomber is from germany,,doesnt mean it wasnt made and produced {or used}in othere countries,,lol,,it happend alot!! lots of countries during that war used some one else's goods..that is what having allies is all about,,lol,,so if you think im wrong,,,well,it aint me,,just the info i read,,and im pretty sure most of the info is right on the money,,im done with this poor thread,,,i shouldnt have to argu about a bomber that was one of the most importaint and produced bombers they had,,and that it was made in france,,that so hard to beleve?,,sorry but it was true,,atleast thats what the he111 web sites say,,go argu the fact with them but i know im right,,and like i said,,if you dont think so,go read some history

[Imp]

I still think the He111 would be redundant since we already have the Ju88 for BoB.

We dont have any Russian or Italian bomber yet.

I think thta should be HT's priority for bombers right now.

A Tu2 would be a great MA bomber (entered service in 1944 so it might not be a good choice for scenarios though).

Pe2 as a bombload similar to the Ki67 so it would not see much use. (great use for scenarios too).

SM79 and CANT would not be very competitive in the MA but they would be useful for scenarios.

P108 would be good in the MA but not much use in the MA.

Looks like a though choice