152 ?

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by SOB
Gatr,

Like with any other plane in the game, if you feel there's something wrong, and have reliable data to prove it, HTC will listen.


SOB

LOL!!

[SOB]

I was joking?!


SOB

[Hortlund]

You werent?

[Hortlund]

IMO the sequence of events is more like this:

1. Player feels something is wrong with, oh lets say the damage model for GVs.

2. Player makes lots of tests in the DA.

3. Player compares results of tests in DA with historical records and concludes that there is a difference between historical records and effects in game.

4. Player posts his findings on BB.

5. Fanbois appear, starting to ridicule player. Player is given funny names, some suggest that the player should try another game instead of whining.

6. Player gets frustrated. Asks fanbois if there is anything wrong with the tests the player made, or if the historical records are wrong.

7. Fanbois continue to ridicule player, completely ignoring the subject for players concern.

8. Player realizes BB might not be the best way to get the attention to the problem, so he mails his questions regarding the GV damage model to HTC.

9 Time passes without any answer either on the BB or via mail.

10. Player posts again on the BB, pointing out the dissimilarity between history and game.

11. Fanbois appear again to redicule player. More this time. Player is mentioned in a special thread by one of the fanbois.

Well...maybe I missed some step, but basically there you have it.

[SOB]

and where is this malicious little thread?


SOB

[Hortlund]

Do a search on GV damage model. There should be something like 10 or 20

I think it was Brady who started the one Im talking about right now.

[SOB]

That seems like an awfully lot of work for a lazy bastard such as myself.

from news & announcements:
Adjusted turret traverse rates on vehicles.

Fixed a bug in the panzer where if the turret was turned it exposed the inside of the tank. This was what was causing the small arms deaths.

Adjusted some component hardness values on vehicles.

However, it looks to me like HT did some work to the GVs for this release.


SOB

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by SOB

However, it looks to me like HT did some work to the GVs for this release.

Yup. GV damage model is still screwed though.

[Wilbus]

I thought all you luftwhi.....errrr.....luftwee nies knew that HT hates you. I mean....why else would he pork all your rides?

Thrila, those comments are exactly what makes HTC think some people think there are stupid LW conspiracy theories. Of course, when telling him I (and others) don't think that at all I never get an answer, but stop saying it please, just unnecessary BS.

The Ta152 is wrong, it's been proven and lots of non LW fliers agree with it after seeing lots of evidence.

Gatr, like I told you before, don't bother with it anymore, not worth the time and frustration to constantly be made fun of by some stupid people who don't know S*** about the plane or what they are talking about, they come in here for one reason and it's to scream LW conspiracy and make fun of you and ruin the normal discussion. They don't know S*** about the Ta152 except that it was a predecessor to the 190 and that's about it.

Give it up and let it be, fly the plane (if you can call it that) as it is, I do, it sucks to not have it right but atleast it does look like a Ta152. The art crew have done a very nice job with it

[thrila]

Hey Wil, i'm just saying what gatr wants to hear.

[Gatr]

OK... My 2 cents...
I do not feel that LW planes r porked overall nor do I feel HT has any sort of Hard-on about LW stuff in general!!!
Also I feel that HT is doing a GREAT job in majority of stuff.
They also provide a superior product in most all areas.
Now on the 152 subject....
I would pay higher perks for a plane that was faster turned better and climbed better... LIKE IT SHOULD ...>>>> from all accounts I have read... <<<<<
Fellas you gotta admit the D-9 performs almost as well in most circumstances.
I fly all sorts of stuff in the MA as you fellas know because you'all have killed me just about everything...
I don't think I'm a total "Luftwhinne".. or whatever you fellas call it?
Gatr

[Shane]

Originally posted by Gatr
I would pay higher perks for a plane that was faster turned better and climbed better... LIKE IT SHOULD ...>>>> from all accounts I have read... <<<<<
Gatr

fly rook, 152's are often on fire sale at 15 perkies.

[Gatr]

Do you like last night arounf 10pm est...lol

Gatr

[Pongo]

Hortland missed several steps. Like the one where silly accusations are included in the data. Or where it is a follow up to a much more poorly worded thread that allready set the attitude of the poster.

But I aggree. Vehicle damage is still pretty porked.

[Charon]

I'm sorry SOB, but Wilbuz and even myself has posted on how porked the 152 is. HTC sure he will listen, but no offense HTC, but I don't think you really care about the plane.

Out of a huge list of things HTC's small staff has to work on, why should your items be the No. 1 priority, and why should HTC's not getting around to them immediately clearly indicate that they haven't considered the information, don't care about the information, and never will change the model if the data is correct? Do you think they are knocking off at 2:00 each afternoon to play golf? Frankly, I can recall a lot of threads concerning other aircraft that have not been dealt with immediately, or even in the past two updates (the Hellcat and various F4U's) spring to mind. I can only assume that they will get to these issues when they can, just as I prioritize a large list of things to do that I get to when I can.

If they solved every LW problem today, I have a feeling that there would be a new list tomorrow from the same people demanding immediate action on the FW-190A9 or whatever. I certainly won't speak for Pyro, or HT, but if I was in charge of the list and time budgeting, I might even put these changes off until last. Why reward tantrums? How easy is it to do business if the community, by and large, begins to understand that the way to successfully meet personal gameplay goals is to whine, screech, insult, subtly put down, etc. until they receive a reward?

Charon