Author Topic: Helmet & Seat Belt Laws (Read 1737 times)

Wlfgng · « **Reply #30 on:** January 02, 2003, 12:59:25 PM »

consumption tax is the only fair tax.. IMO

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #31 on:** January 02, 2003, 01:01:13 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Lazs! Wrong. I can pump my own gas, anywhere in Europe.

It has nothing to do with nannying and you know it. But continue to post the obtuse arguments... it suits you.

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I can drive legally at 100mph - well, in Germany I can, which is of course part of my pissant continent.

ROTFLMAO! Well... you can do 100 in Montana with the same allowances they have on the Autoban (basically, the can ticket you if they feel you are being "unsafe" with your speed. Basically, if the car or the road conditions aren't conducive to the speed you were traveling. Worst case we could head up to Canada or down to Mexico and do the same thing. I mean, if you have to play the "Germany has..." card.

BTW... kinda ironic you pick on the two states that have "no self service" but cite the one European country that allows you to do 100. Ah... but this is arguing to incite, not to make sense.

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Alcohol may be drunk legally by those aged 18 and over. Gambling is allowed here. So you're wrong on a few counts - so nice to see that in a world of change, some things remain the same!

Ah.. so 18 is OK and 21 isn't. And how many casinos do you have around there in England? I mean... I guess you could have them if they didn't tax everything so high. We have 5 casinos within 2 hours of where I live. Can you say the same?

And I didn't really see where he was "wrong" beatle... just alot of you redefining things.

AKDejaVu

Wlfgng · « **Reply #32 on:** January 02, 2003, 01:33:38 PM »

also, he forgot Colorado Casino's....

SOB · « **Reply #33 on:** January 02, 2003, 02:11:01 PM »

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The freedom to pump your own gas - denied in OR and NJ.
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LOL, you are a sad little clown aren't you Beetle. Pumping gas into my automobile is now a freedom that's being denied me? Please, for the love of all that's amusing because it's tragically sad, post more and tippie-toe further out onto that limb you're dangling on.

SOB

hawk220 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 02, 2003, 02:26:57 PM »

jonnyb

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kudos to you for being a tissue donor, I know many people are eternally thankful for your thoughtfullness.

if you are interested in altruistic donation, you need to know your blood type. mail me at billhawkins@earthlink.net (as I don't want to hijack this thread:) )

lazs2 · « **Reply #35 on:** January 02, 2003, 02:29:33 PM »

well.... guess I didn't need to respond to beetle after all.. At least we don't tax TV sets anually...

We can buy anything we want here cheaper than you can there and we get to keep more of what we earn.... Legal age for drinking is 18 in some states isn't it? but... I'm not sure 18 year olds are adults so far as drinking goes..

We also have the right to defend ourselves with firearms that we own... be it from evildooers or vicious rodent attacks.

We got a country that has pickup trucks with more HP than your evo's (that japan has to build you) and the roads wide enough and dry enough to use em.
lazs

hawk220 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 02, 2003, 02:36:25 PM »

lol SOB!

that 'they have to pump your gas' thing is kinda wierd tho.. SOB, what is the official party line in OR about that? I've always wonderd why that is law. when I travel south to LA or Vegas I always stop in Vancouver and top the tank and as its about 300 miles thru Oregon I get the next fuel in Weed or Hilt CA. (with a gas can in back just in case)

Airhead · « **Reply #37 on:** January 02, 2003, 02:39:08 PM »

The reason self serve gas stations were banned in Oregon is because it never stops raining there and Organians, being as simple minded as barnyard turkeys, will gawk skyward in slack jawed amazement, become mesmurized by the clouds and drown.

I'm not sure why self serve gas station are banned in New Jersey though. Probably has something to do with organized crime and a gas station attendants union where the average gas pumper makes 75k a year.

hawk220 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 02, 2003, 02:45:59 PM »

Airhead

you're kidding about that 75k a year, aren't you?

SOB · « **Reply #39 on:** January 02, 2003, 02:50:06 PM »

Well, I'm not sure what the original idea was behind it. I've heard that it was to cut down on the amount of gasoline being evaporated into the atmosphere and spilled on the ground, tho' that's never made too much sense to me. The current reasoning behind keeping the law is basically that overturning it would cost thousands of low-income folks their source of income. When I was young and ready to battle anything that I deemed uncessary I thought the law was stupid. Now I could care less...our gas doesn't really cost any more or less than anywhere else in the U.S., and it's nice sometimes (especially when it's raining hard and the wind is blowing like crazy) to have someone pump it for you.

SOB

Airhead · « **Reply #40 on:** January 02, 2003, 02:52:03 PM »

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Airhead

you're kidding about that 75k a year, aren't you?

LOL Yeah, I was kidding about the 75k a year thing- I was serious about Organians drowning from looking skyward tho.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #41 on:** January 02, 2003, 02:52:16 PM »

no he's not.. I almost moved there because of that simple fact.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #42 on:** January 02, 2003, 03:00:41 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
We can buy anything we want here cheaper than you can there and we get to keep more of what we earn.... Legal age for drinking is 18 in some states isn't it? but... I'm not sure 18 year olds are adults so far as drinking goes..

Everywhere in the US since 1988 its 21... though some states grandfathered the drinking age so it was effectively done by 1991.

Of course, we can still go to Mexico or Canada to drink at 18 and do 100 miles per hour.... since beatle decided to put his whole continent up against ours.

AKDejaVu

jonnyb · « **Reply #43 on:** January 02, 2003, 03:08:12 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
well.... guess I didn't need to respond to beetle after all.. At least we don't tax TV sets anually...

We can buy anything we want here cheaper than you can there and we get to keep more of what we earn.... Legal age for drinking is 18 in some states isn't it? but... I'm not sure 18 year olds are adults so far as drinking goes..

We also have the right to defend ourselves with firearms that we own... be it from evildooers or vicious rodent attacks.

We got a country that has pickup trucks with more HP than your evo's (that japan has to build you) and the roads wide enough and dry enough to use em.
lazs

The legal drinking age is 21 in all states. I believe that any 18 year old that decides to serve his/her country, and is expected to go to war and possibly die for that country certainly has the right to buy a drink. I have felt this way since I joined the USMC when I was 18, and as a bar manager, any serviceman/woman that comes in drinks. Heck, I'll usually buy the first round.

MrLars · « **Reply #44 on:** January 02, 2003, 04:46:24 PM »

I had a cycle accident in '75, if it weren't for my helmet I wouldn't be here now.

I clipped a curb on a corner with the sun in my eyes at 50mph. My head hit a driveway curb, I was upside down, and the impact shattered my jaw. The docs said that if I had a full coverage bucket on my neck would most likely have been broken.

So, yeah, I think helmets are a necessary piece of safety equipment but one that should be a personal choice...with seatbelts or my cycles passenger there's no compromise, they either wear them or walk.