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Offline AKDejaVu

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What has happened to Tom Clancy?
« on: January 05, 2003, 05:17:54 PM »
"The Hunt for Red October" and "Red Storm Rising" are a couple of my favorite books.  Around "Sum of all Fears" I noticed that there was a tendancy to infuse fantasy pollitics into the books.  "The Bear and the Dragon" took that to completely new heights.

I've also noticed that he managed to use a mere 750 pages to set up the 150 page conflict.

Sigh... its hard to find good writers these days.

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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2003, 05:30:06 PM »
Suckage so far, early books = great reading, later ones = suckage.

Try W.E.B. Griffins books, they're pretty good reads, the characters fleshed out over a series of books.

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2003, 05:37:04 PM »
I think Clancy started to suck around "Clear and Present Danger".  Does Ryan become the Pope in this one?

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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2003, 05:52:02 PM »
His early books were just technowarporn but at least they delivered a money shot.  I was only able to finish his last book because I was on an airplane.  He is the McRib of military fiction writers.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2003, 06:14:40 PM »
Try Wilber Smith instead. He has quite a few books out and if you like one you will like them all.

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2003, 06:23:12 PM »
Clancy made far too much money with his first few books.  Now ghost writers spin out the recent drivel and he puts his name on them so that they will sell.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2003, 07:28:04 PM »
All been downhill since Red Storm Rising IMO.

There have been decent bits and pieces here and there, but their sum total doesn't even equal 1/2 a book.

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2003, 07:32:59 PM »
He went as far as the techno-babble would take him... once that ran dry, people realized that he can't write.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2003, 07:35:45 PM »
He can write pretty decently... but he has a tendancy to infuse his own brand of politics into everything.  And I don't believe he has nearly the ability to present politics as technology.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2003, 07:58:38 PM »
I liked them all up through Clear and Present Danger.  Like everyone else, I am becoming a bit disenfranchised by his latest efforts.  However, Without Remorse is my all-time favorite book of his, and it is one of my top ten favorite fiction books.  I wish Clancy would write some more about the early Clark and leave Ryan to the past.

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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2003, 08:08:13 PM »
Red Storm Rising is a great book.  The rest are mediocre except R6 which was pure trash.  They made a nice video game out of it though.

I think he wishes he were Ryan.


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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2003, 08:13:32 PM »
Red storm rising was his best read.

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2003, 10:32:43 PM »
Just read Red Rabbit:(

I kinda think he imagines himself as Jack Ryan right now and just won't give us a new set of characters.

Kind of hard to kill yourself off.

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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2003, 10:37:18 PM »
without remorse was awesome

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2003, 10:42:04 PM »
Hmm I first read Red Storm Rising in a Barracks in Pirmasens, Germany in 87.......

It felt like he was looking over my shoulder

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