Author Topic: wtf is wrong with the French? (Read 3015 times)

Hortlund · « **on:** January 21, 2003, 02:27:33 PM »

No I mean that. Is there some kind of genetic defect that makes them all cowards? Did the last ours is not to reason why...-genes die out with the Napoleon generation?

But SERIOUSLY wtf happened after 1815? Reading the history of the French army is like reading a f*cking comic book

The history of the French armed forces 1815-present day, a short summary by Steve Hortlund
Surrender, surrender, mutiny and troops refusing to attack, win anyway due to massive help from allies that are forced to fight for france while the french troops are refusing to attack, surrender, surrender, create myth of brave resistance fighters, send in foreign legion but surrender anyway, surrender again, send in UN troops, avoid conflict, avoid conflict, send in foregin legion and surrender anyway, avoid conflict, sell arms to mad dictators to avoid conflict, appease mad dictators, blame UN, blame US, veto any war against mad dictators.

HOW THE F*CK CAN YOU STAND TO LOOK YOURSELVES IN THE MIRROR YOU bananaS?

Disclaimer: This post is more directed at french policy makers than individual frenchmen. I'm sorry Straffo, and all other french people I know. And I'm not accusing any of you personally to be spineless whimps.

midnight Target · « **Reply #1 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:31:15 PM »

Not many fish in that pond Steve.

Hortlund · « **Reply #2 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:33:06 PM »

MT, I'm not fishing. Im talking about the French threat to use their VETO in the security counsel against any action against the Iraqis...dont you watch the news?

Hortlund · « **Reply #3 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:36:11 PM »

"France announced that no military action against Iraq can be taken until the inspectors work is done. French foreign secretary Dominique de Villepin hinted that France will use its veto power to prevent any resolution or action that would lead to violence/war against the Iraqis."

"Since we can disarm Iraq peacefully, we cannot take the risk to threaten the lives of innocent civilians or soldiers, destabilize the region and further alienate our different cultures"

My translation of swedish news site.

I mean WTF is that? Must not risk the lives of innocent Iraqi soldiers? Must not alienate our cultures?

midnight Target · « **Reply #4 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:37:19 PM »

... I was joking, and I knew what precipitated your post.

Sorry to rain on your parade of sorrow.

Ping · « **Reply #5 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:38:18 PM »

"No I mean that. Is there some kind of genetic defect that makes them all cowards? Did the last ours is not to reason why...-genes die out with the Napoleon generation?

But SERIOUSLY wtf happened after 1815? Reading the history of the French army is like reading a f*cking comic book "

And this has What to do with recent news??? I dont recall hearing him say they surrender.

Shakes head and walks away.

Hortlund · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:41:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Ping

And this has What to do with recent news??? I dont recall hearing him say they surrender.

I'd say the trend is pretty obvious. The French will do anything to avoid getting involved in any kind war. At the same time, they are harbouring some dillusions of grandeur, probably longing back to long lost times when they could actually influence stuff outside their own borders.

The combination of pathetic idiots trying to play with the big boys in international politics and spineless cowards doing anything to avoid war is not a good one.

Ping · « **Reply #7 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:44:24 PM »

Hmmmm...and Swedens history consists of what?
You present a fine argument of conjecture and what ifs tho.

UserName · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:46:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
I'd say the trend is pretty obvious. The French will do anything to avoid getting involved in any kind war.

Say, where was Sweden in WW1 and WW2?

Ping · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:47:39 PM »

Damn..have I been trolled?

Udie · « **Reply #10 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:48:17 PM »

Isn't France the only country who's articles of surrender are writen in every language?

Hortlund · « **Reply #11 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:48:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Ping
Hmmmm...and Swedens history consists of what?

And this is relevant how? If you want we can start some endless discussion about Swedish military history with its victories and defeats, but at the end of the day we will reach the conclusion that
a) Sweden does not have a permanent seat in the security counsel
b) Sweden is among the relatively few countries that sent military personnel to Afghanistan to aid the Yanks, and
c) Sweden is backing the US war on terror very openly

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:50:42 PM »

Nice ode to the french ressistance and other french that fought and died on allied side.

But it is all black or white huh?

Ping · « **Reply #13 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:51:21 PM »

Yes Hort: So is Canada and France, They are just not supporting a war against Iraq without undeniable proof of Guilt.

Damn..I Must Not Get Political

Hortlund · « **Reply #14 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:57:17 PM »

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Ok Hortlund. For starters, avoiding war is a GOOD thing. Secondly, France is a nuclear power with nuke-subs and aircraft carriers. If they WANTED war they could wage it successfully.

The Great Book of Swedish War Heroes ... now THAT's a thin book.

Avoiding war is not always a good thing. Quite on the contrary.

Take a look at how far it got Chamberlain...

When your enemy (as in this case) is an insane dictator equipped with B&C weapons trying desperately to get his hands on N, he should be taken out as soon as possible.

As for France and their weapons...I'm not convinced that France could fight its way out of a wet paper bag, regardless of how many nukes they have.

GScholts...you are norwegian yes? Are there any Norwegian war heroes?