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Offline funkedup

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« on: March 06, 2003, 03:01:25 PM »
How can you condemn past US governments for helping to empower butchers like Bin Laden and Hussein while you simultaneously condemn the current US government for trying to take down Bin Laden and Hussein?  You need to pick one.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2003, 03:03:45 PM »
Circular arguments... its impossible to argue against them.

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2003, 03:11:09 PM »
No, no, no... you're both mistaken.

There are no Anti-Americans that post here.

Glad I could clear that up.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2003, 03:13:46 PM »
funkedup: How can you condemn past US governments for helping to empower butchers like Bin Laden and Hussein while you simultaneously condemn the current US government for trying to take down Bin Laden and Hussein?  You need to pick one.

 Simple - every time US government did something active/aggressive - it screwed up. Toppling Iranian regime in 53, Vietnam, Somali, support for Taliban, support for Iraq in war with Iran, feew others.

 Every time US sat tight and defencively and competed economically and socially, it prevailed - witness the crumbling of Soviet empire, drastic changes in China, etc.

 Hence, some people do not want america to screw up again.

 In view of that, I am not sure who is pro-american and who is "anti". It used to be that bringing one's country to ruin was considered a bad thing.

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2003, 03:14:33 PM »
Bankruptcy, record unemployment, industry moving east for the cheap labor.  If I was the king I'd be stirring up the pot to keep the minds of the peasants off the real problems too.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2003, 03:15:36 PM »
My friend, the issue to me at least is not about Hussein or Bin Laden. It’s about killing innocent civilians to get at these people. In this case I consider it immoral with the cure worse than the disease.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2003, 03:16:35 PM »
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My friend, the issue to me at least is not about Hussein or Bin Laden. It’s about killing innocent civilians to get at these people. In this case I consider it immoral with the cure worse than the disease.


Sir you are making too much sense, please leave my thread.  :)
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2003, 03:17:46 PM »
But, of course, Hussein or Bin Laden killing innocent civilians doesn't concern you in the least. :D
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2003, 03:18:32 PM »
Miko... do you believe active/agressive actions by the UN have been better of worse historically?

BTW... picking and chosing points to make your point... bad form.

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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2003, 03:22:44 PM »
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BTW... picking and chosing points to make your point... bad form.


So is changing the subject of the thread completely.

There are anti-Americans on this board, I'm sure. In the same way there are xenophobic anti-European types. Swings and roundabouts, I guess.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2003, 03:26:24 PM »
But NONE of US are either of those, thank goodness.
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2003, 03:27:28 PM »
You said it.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2003, 03:46:27 PM »
Xenophobic anti-european ?

It's a pure myth !
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2003, 04:24:58 PM »
... or a new religion ... :D
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2003, 04:25:10 PM »
i don't think the USA should have made war on hitler, the war costs too much and innocent people died, hitler was no threat to USA .
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