Time for an RPS.

[flyingaround]

Originally posted by lazs2
sc sp00k... I don't care if you fly dee9's... fly em all you like.   fly em against other dee 9's but... if all you can do is cherry pick people who are busy with real fights then I don't feel sorry for you when you are not allowed to play in their area... you will still have the majority of the arena to play in but you will have to fight more of your ilk... you can also fly in the early war area it's just that.... you will have to do so with a little risk and without the huge advantage that you seem unable to do without now


ok...after reading this i had to reply (something I rarely do even though I read basically every thread every day here) and I have to point out just how silly this point of view is.  Especially silly was the "real fights" bit.  So the dweebs on the deck furballing are the REAL pilots huh?

YOU don't like B/Z late war planes because they feed on YOU.  Period.  End of story.  Basically this is a big WHAAA whine.  Here is a tip, get some SA.  If you fly on the deck over and over again to a furball, (like a dweeb) you should expect to get killed by a fast b/z pilot.  Me? Heck I will probably never ever meet you in the sky because I tend to be the guy feeding on the B/Z's.

In WWII how often did fights digress into 5k furballs over some town?  Not many pilots up'd a spit V from England, flying w/ weps on the deck over the channel, and getting into a lo-alt furball.  Most fights were b/z, angle, or E fighting.  Most planes DID fly real fast and high.  Alt = Energy = Life.  Those late war pilots flying fast and high are being way more realistic than you are.

I am sorry that you want everyone to fly furballs.  Furballs are cute, and are great places to hunt the fringes of, but fun?  Yeah sometimes they are fun.  Sure.  Usually they are fairly lame.  It depends on my mood I guess.  BUT... you won't catch me squeaking about the 262 on the fringe of the fringe hunting ME.  

Hey!!! maby I should start a whine about how we need to change the whole game to suit my dislikes for the guy in the 262 who kills me as I kill the ones that seem to be killing you.

Bah...it's all for fun anyway.  Leave the game alone.  If you don't like the d9,la7,51d,109g10,yak, then learn the SA required to avoid them.  

+Lute
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[Apache]

Originally posted by Revvin
Furballers have enough concessions though it is nice to see them whine

[WldThing]

Originally posted by flyingaround
Bah...it's all for fun anyway.  Leave the game alone.  If you don't like the d9,la7,51d,109g10,yak, then learn the SA required to avoid them.[/B]

Or just get a faster plane.

[Urchin]

I guess I'm one of the whiney turn-fighters, since I think the notion that 'the best pilots are the one that never get into a fight' is rather silly.

Just my personal opinion though.

[Reschke]

Originally posted by lazs2
reschke... first off there is nothing wrong with not knowing anyone except... if we want "community"..  HTC believes in community and seperate arenas kill community.   An "area" within the arena permits community and.... allows for seemless jumping from early war fights to late.

I understand what you are going for Lazs but I just don't understand how the "community" will suffer because of having a different arena for furballs only. One example that I can offer is the FFA and Arcade servers of Fighter Ace. Lets put the game aside for a moment and concentrate on the arenas. There is significant movement between the different servers by players who enjoy all aspects of the game. Sure you have some which only stick to one aspect like Arcade mode but many move between them all. Back when I played FA on a regular basis I flew in all the servers. Simply because I enjoyed getting around the game to see what else was happening. Now in AH I do the same thing based on what is in the CT, whats happening in the DA, I rarely if ever play H2H because I don't like that unless I am in a server with my buddies. Lastly I head to the TA for some plain old flying and to work on specific things like my CV landings or how to avoid something someone tried on me.

Either way good thoughts and good luck. I am off to coach little league baseball.

[Steve]

Urcin, no disrespect intended.. I want to be clear:  SOME turnfiters.

I like getting into good ol' fights in my pony... you know.. flaps on-flaps off-back on again-where did he go?-oh toejam there he is-stall warning screaming in my ear kinda fights.  

[Hornet]

Fights are far and few between now, for me at least.

umm...weren't you the 20k yak near 88 last night...? Fights are there - try looking down.

[Apache]

Originally posted by Hornet
umm...weren't you the 20k yak near 88 last night...? Fights are there - try looking down.

umm...no. You'll never, ever see me over 12 at the most. 6K is where I stay usually.

[Hwkeye]

No to RPS.  Didn't like it in the WB MA cannot see why I would here.  

Hwkeye
The Flying Zoo

[akak]

Originally posted by SLO


someone has to come up with something to prevent the easy plane access.....(la7's....D9's....pee51's)

You guys are blaming an aircraft for what the pilot does.  It doesn't matter what plane is flown, you're always will get a pilot that will run.  Maybe if there was a formal and well established training program like there was in AW, it would probably go farther in cutting down the cases of runners than limiting what aircraft people could fly.


Ack-Ack

[SirLoin]

Add 4 plane factories per side as strat targets.

Factories:

P51D
FW190D
Typhoon
La7

If a factory is bombed to hell,that plane is disabled for that country until resupplied.

*Bonus Knight Fm2 factory to piss off Lazs...

 

[ramzey]

Originally posted by SirLoin
Add 4 plane factories per side as strat targets.

Factories:

P51D
FW190D
Typhoon
La7

If a factory is bombed to hell,that plane is disabled for that country until resupplied.

*Bonus Knight Fm2 factory to piss off Lazs...

 

overall not bad idea:)

how do u think, which will be allways flat?
i bet on la7:D

ramzey

[akak]

Originally posted by SirLoin
Add 4 plane factories per side as strat targets.

Factories:

P51D
FW190D
Typhoon
La7

If a factory is bombed to hell,that plane is disabled for that country until resupplied.

*Bonus Knight Fm2 factory to piss off Lazs...

 

You do that and you'll start off a whine fest of the likes never seen before in the history of AH.

Air Warrior used to have Spitfire factories, if you destroyed it, the enemy couldn't up any new Spitfires.  It was the best way to cut down the numbers of a country that had a numerical advantage, since usually half would log off as soon as they lost their Spitfire.

Ack-Ack

[nopoop]

Apache at 20k ????

BRAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA !!!

...ah

no

I'm usually 3k above the deck and Apache's saying "Poop six"..."Poop a 51 dropping in"...."Poop, ya have 2 on you"..."Poop, you have a group on ya"... "Poop, I'm comin"..."Poop ??????"

If anything, I give Apache and Lazs quite a bit of vocal exercise on a nightly basis..

Think of it as a squad exercise in clearing ones throat..

My contribution to this thread: To wit::

( and I thought of it all by myself )

The fields on infinity are toooooo far apart.

With the distances, late war planes are the rides of choice. They HAVE to be, and that's the rub.

And that's what you see on a nightly basis, with the exception of a good CV fight..

Which aren't as often as the first time through..

Maybe all the "fighters" are busy playing tanks in the crater ???

I'd put my money on that..

Takers ??

I'd play tanks too, but I have found out that no matter how fast I'm going in the tank when it goes off a cliff, IT STILL DOESN'T FLY..

[dracon]

This is an incredibly long thread.  Steve, buddy!  How about some paragraphs??  You're killin' my eyes JK

My point.  The trouble, as always, in all SIMMS is not everybody gets their jollies quite the same way.  You have the furballers, the buffers, the jabo guys, and the mission oriented Historical types.

The 339th is a Historical Squad and we try to fly our rides in a Historic manner.  Yep, the P-51 or Peee51 as someone said.  To fly this correctly you never turn fight.  Always BnZ.  If the odds get bad you call OUT!! and run.  For me the Fly till ya Die mentality doesn't work.  I try to improve my streaks and fly complete missions.  I try to improve my K/D ratio.  Don't get me wrong I die waaaay too much but these are my goals in the SIMM.

I guess I too don't understand the initial intent of this thread.  With 500+ guys in the MA there always seems to be a place for me to play my kind of game.  I may have to move fields and spend some quality study time on the map, but sooner or later I find the type of game I'm looking for.

To close, I like the Tank Town idea.  I agree with others that said to "Go to the CT for an RPS type of fight".  The CT needs to "catch on" but there is a lot of fun to be had in a Axis vs Allied venue with all or nearly all of the correct planes there.

All Cool thread,