Time for an RPS.

[batdog]

Anybody that wants the 20 to 30k guys to come down for an "easy" kill.... fly a 38/47. They'll be on you like poop.

The arena's offer plenty of FB's and the gun then run as well.
I dont see the problem beyond alot of late model birds. BUT... no matter WHAT plane set your in people are going to go for the "best" ride they can. The average joe isnt into putting himself at a disadvantage.

My style is a pure mix... I'll fly E then go hard TnB. I think what we'll see is that as time progresses that more and more of the runners will advance to a point where they'll stick around for more fights and do less of that dive down to 1k above you then zoom back up crap expecting you to follow.

[lazs2]

ok... let's clear some things up... first... I don't want to take anything away from anyone..  I'm all about choice but... I'm a lso about parity and variety.  Forget what was right or wrong in "the war"... this isn't war... this is a game that relies on parity variety and choice to be fun.   useing "the war" to justify an inherant advantage that you get by simply clicking on the right plane is silly

most suggestions I see here.."grab a fast plane" "go to the CT" 'go to the dueling arena'  "have a seperate arena"... these aren't about choice, they are about limiting choice, parity and variety

The current MA is about limiting choice...  Fly a fast plane or die or be bored to death... fly a fast plane and take a little longer to  be bored to death..

The current MA isn't about variety... choose any plane you like but choose a fast late war one or die or be bored to death.

The current MA isn't about parity...   choose a fast plane or you have no parity with the planes you will face in the situations you will face.

The early war area within the arena simply, in one fell swoop, double or quadruples the amount of types of planes that are viable and will be used and... it does that because it adds parity.   It allows people to choose to B & Z or to turnfight as their basic fight... everyone can and should still energy fight or angles fight but.... now you aren't facing a plane that is 50 mph slower than yours or 50 mph faster.  

With the area arena... you can fight one sortie in the early area and another in the later one.... yu can choose any plane in the set and still be in the same arena.

The ct won't work... it is axis vs allied and has some other settings that seperate it from the community and make it less popular... (why doesn't it have 600 when it has La7's for instance?)

Oh.. and for the record... I am not whining about being killed by the B & Zers... check my record against any plane and you will find that the fast planes are die the most to my guns... I find them very easy to kill it is simply that..... they are not much fun to kill (it takes a long time to get to one to kill and they die easily... poor return for my effort)... and... they are no fun at all to dodge or worse... watch for.

And steve... i have no idea what you wrote cause no way will I read a pargraph that is two posts long, but I am sure it is a very long winded justification for keeping easy pickings for you in the MA..   I'm sure it had some nod to history and to how you really do fight like a banshee and that everything is fine as it is.... yu are wrong.
lazs

[Rude]

I think Dale has a plan

[lazs2]

lets take the 51 or dee 9 for instance... if you fly em you want to find planes that are from -5 to 50mph slower than you because... you can hit them with immunity if you use even slight sa and skill and... make it home.. they can't catch yo in time even if they are 5 mph faster.   You want the field more than a sector apart so that it spreads out the population so that you are not in danger or your sa is overwhelmed and a fast plane eats you when you swoop down to take a sissy little kick at someone.

MOST of all.... you don't want to not have slow planes to cherry pick or to form fights down low that you can hit and run while they are fighting.   You are afraid that wihout slow planes you will all spend your entire time hiding from each other or forming up in safe groups to hide from other groups.

If you fly a slow plane you want other slow planes to fight who can't really get away and don't want to... you want closer fiels so that you don't have to fly forever and... so that you can maybe make it home if you are jumped.

Currently we can't please both camps with the MA.... I think my area arena could.
laz

[udet]

Originally posted by SirLoin
Add 4 plane factories per side as strat targets.

Factories:

P51D
FW190D
Typhoon
La7

If a factory is bombed to hell,that plane is disabled for that country until resupplied.

*Bonus Knight Fm2 factory to piss off Lazs...

 

This is a GREAT idea. HTC should consider it.

[slimm50]

"Fighter Town" in AW was really alot of fun. It wasn't officially called that, we just sorta enforced no buffing in that area of the map. Bases were close together, and was a lot of furballin' and even some 1vs1 and 2vs1 goin on. We need to do something like that here, in the MA.

[MrLars]

Originally posted by slimm50
"Fighter Town" in AW was really alot of fun. It wasn't officially called that, we just sorta enforced no buffing in that area of the map. Bases were close together, and was a lot of furballin' and even some 1vs1 and 2vs1 goin on. We need to do something like that here, in the MA.

Nope, there was a dedicated Fighter Town arena where the planeset was limited to early, mid or late war planes depending on that particular months setup. No bombers were available and one of the 3 sides was disabled. I spent almost a year in that arena and had a blast learning and applying ACM in mostly 1v1 situations.

There was a 'fighter town' area on the Pacific map but it was just an area in the middle of the map where the fields were for the most part unporkable. There was no way to stop those fields from being bombed with the exception of community feedback.

[dracon]

lazs2,

You DIDN'T clear anything up.  You did try to tell players what and how to play.  You may think you can do this but you can't.  Ain't gonna happen.

Please do not tell me I can't fly my ride as if it was in the War.  I can and I will and I do!!  I will BnZ the crap out of you and run away with impunity.  That's the way it was done in the War.  So that's they way I do it now, Historically.  That's my "thing".  I also fly the Hawg, Spits and love the FM2.  I try to fly them historically also.  Nothing, no one, no map, and certainly someone elses presumed rules are ever going to make me change my method.  It's how I have fun!  You will certainly not never find me telling anyone else how to have a good time either.  I couldn't possibly know.

I still think the CT is an RPS arena.  I like to go there.

Hopefully THAT cleared things up.  I didn't agree with most of your post.  But then again it's yours and I respect that!

Regards,

[Revvin]

Lazs whines about any way of playing that does'nt match his and he comes up with silly little names to call those groups or pilots of a particular plane.

[icemaw]

What is RPS??

[sax]

20 min flight in FM2 to fight, priceless.
4 min fight kill 3-4 bad guys, priceless.
20 min rtb kills, land kills, fuel porked to 25%, priceless.

For everything else theres Mastercard.

[muckmaw]

RPS= Rolling Plane Set

[SKurj]

Can't see how ToD can operate without it....



SKurj

[Zanth]

When I am in that kind of mood, which is just sometimes, I have enjoyed the historical match-ups in the Combat Theater arena and its really nice maps.  I also enjoy the events, but I do not want to fly an event every day either.  

So please no "warbirds" style RPS in the Main Arena.   I prefer not to be told what to fly when I am just logging on to have some mindless fun.

[lazs2]

dracon... fly however you like... i have never said otherwise... I think you are being silly thinking that you fly in any slight way "historicaly" in our "anything goes free spirit MA"   nothing could be farther from real combat...  but...   do it if you like.

All I am saying is... give others the opportunity to have fun in the arena also.   My idea would take nothing from you (show me where you think it would).   If you feel you have to justify starting out every fight with a huge advantage then that is your problem not mine.  You certainly are no problem to me... I never see you... I never am in the same "fight" you are in... And.... I have no problem whatsoever prevailing against fast planes that think they can "b&z the crap out of me and run away with impunity"  please look at my record against such planes... killing them is easy... it's just not much fun... hardly worth the effort.   The worst turnfighter in the game is more fun to fight than the best B&z'er for me.

revin... besides not having anything to say as usuall... you also seem to have failed to grasp even the slightest hint of what I want.  So... I guess you had best stick with making it up as you go.
lazs