Author Topic: Bush and his 'Bunch of Liars' (Read 2921 times)

Gh0stFT · « **Reply #60 on:** March 18, 2003, 03:11:09 AM »

OMG this cowboy will really attack! i feel so sorry for you US people,
he ruins you and nobody see it

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #61 on:** March 18, 2003, 03:27:15 AM »

Maybe someday euros will realize that most Americans consider being called a Cowboy as a compliment... unless you are a Steelers fan.

Dowding · « **Reply #62 on:** March 18, 2003, 03:50:20 AM »

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the usage of English in this thread hilarious is. Like it do I and Yoda appreciate it too probably.

And how many foreign languages do you speak, master of tongues? From your previous posts, I can see you struggle with English as a first language, nevermind second or third.

They are making a big effort to discuss this issues, and all you can do is ridicule them for it. That's doesn't make you look smart or witty or even vaguely funny. Just pathetic.

Sling - you seem to regard Schwarzkopf's opinion highly. What about his current opinion, which pretty much challenges the entire Bush strategy?

Hortlund · « **Reply #63 on:** March 18, 2003, 03:52:16 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding

They are making a big effort to discuss this issues

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ok, since you are apparently not talking about straffo or blitz...who exactly are you talking about?

Dowding · « **Reply #64 on:** March 18, 2003, 04:07:22 AM »

Straffo has been pretty much on his own defending France after some pretty abusive treatment by the usual suspects on this board. Some of the comments, if they had been directed at the US, would have them wailing like a bunch of squeakes on heat. Or posting pictures of the graves of American war dead.

Blitz has trolled and got some big bites.

Either way, if your language skills aren't particularly good, it takes a lot of effort to stay with a discussion, both in terms translating to understand a reply and then formulating a reply yourself.

Ask NikPaz, he seems to have great difficulty with the English language, but really puts the effort in - and it's worth it every time.

Puke · « **Reply #65 on:** March 18, 2003, 04:08:08 AM »

The term "cowboy" is an interesting one. I suppose it's a derogatory term, but I don't see how it can be. I guess it'd be like calling the Japanese Prime Minister a "samurai" or Tony Blair a "knight."

GhostFT, I'm touched that you are concerned for us Americans. I am interested in your special insight and how we'll be ruined, so if you don't mind extrapolating on that point, I'd appreciate it.

Dowding · « **Reply #66 on:** March 18, 2003, 04:09:41 AM »

Samurai = Chivalric Knight = Cowboy !

Eh????

Puke · « **Reply #67 on:** March 18, 2003, 04:13:01 AM »

Oh, and I do greatly respect all of you who can read/speak more than one language.

Hungarian stopped in my family with my grandmother. Her and her sisters and brothers never taught my mother and their kids how to speak it because they felt it to be a better way for the kids to assimilate into this country. My mother is somewhat upset about it and as I get older I kinda wished it had been passed down and I had some grasp of the language. My respects to you!

Puke · « **Reply #68 on:** March 18, 2003, 04:14:12 AM »

Dowding, they are the same thing in terms of not being derogitory. Also, I can point out bad knights/samurais/cowboys just like I can point out good knights/samurais/cowboys.

But I don't quite understand "eh."

Dowding · « **Reply #69 on:** March 18, 2003, 04:25:44 AM »

I don't understand what you are saying. If you are trying to compare the key attributes of Samurai, Chivalric Knights and Cow-boys, I'm sorry but cowboys are really the odd men out. Chivalric knights and samurai were very much men of war and the right hand men of a ruler. They obeyed strict rules on conduct as befitting whatever.

A cowboy is a peasant beside the Samurai and Knight - a man who toils on the land, belongs to no ruling elite and is very much an ordinary working man enjoying no special priviledges.

No biggie, I just didn't see the comparison, that's all.

straffo · « **Reply #70 on:** March 18, 2003, 04:30:04 AM »

Puke think that even if the spelling is the same the meaning is not allways the same ...

When you read Cowboys in the mouth of a Yuropean think more (if I'm not mistaken) of a maverick(*) than cowboy.

(*) your version of the "chien fou"

Puke · « **Reply #71 on:** March 18, 2003, 04:53:17 AM »

Dowding,

I see we have a problem with our comprehension. I'm not comparing a cowboy directly to a knight, but I am comparing how they are neither derogitory words in their country of origin. Please, go back and have another go at reading my post.

Peasants are probably the most noblest of the three mentioned, actually. You keep adding "chivalric" to the knight, but I'm not talking about fantasy King Arthur here. I'm talking about the guys clubbing serfs for their money. 100-Years War doesn't make them chivalrous.

But I'm kind of disgusted you look down on the man who toils the field yet you flaunt unwarranted kudos to those born with silver spoons in their mouths with power-by-birth to go along with it.

Please cut the "chivalric" crap. They are just knights. Thank you.

Here, I'll help you out...here's my original statement:

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The term "cowboy" is an interesting one. I suppose it's a derogatory term, but I don't see how it can be. I guess it'd be like calling the Japanese Prime Minister a "samurai" or Tony Blair a "knight."

Puke · « **Reply #72 on:** March 18, 2003, 04:56:59 AM »

Straffo, I see where you are coming from. Maverick might work...but then again, people tend to like an air of independence too, which Maverick connotates to me. You might just want to stick with "warmonger" if you really want to make a cutting comment.

Dowding · « **Reply #73 on:** March 18, 2003, 05:00:15 AM »

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You keep adding "chivalric" to the knight, but I'm not talking about fantasy King Arthur here.

Neither am I. A Chivalric knight is a historical term of reference.

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But I'm kind of disgusted you look down on the man who toils the field yet you flaunt unwarranted kudos to those born with silver spoons in their mouths with power-by-birth to go along with it.

Where did I 'look down on' the peasant? My description is entirely accurate. They were toilers of the land, they didn't belong to a ruling elite and they didn't have any special priviledges. I really don't see what your objecting against.

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Please cut the "chivalric" crap. They are just knights. Thank you.

Like I said, it's a historical term of reference used by historians. The notion of chivalry has been romaticized by Hollywood et al, I think that is what you are objecting against, and that was not what I was referring to.

straffo · « **Reply #74 on:** March 18, 2003, 05:08:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Puke
Straffo, I see where you are coming from. Maverick might work...but then again, people tend to like an air of independence too, which Maverick connotates to me. You might just want to stick with "warmonger" if you really want to make a cutting comment.

It was not a comment, just a "For Your Information" post.