Author Topic: Dune's "From the I told you so" Dpt. (Read 2154 times)

Dune · « **on:** March 26, 2003, 08:03:26 PM »

As I've mentioned, I have never thought we had enough armor or troops on the ground in Iraq. It seems that CENTCOM has come to the same conclusion:

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(CBS) As the war many hoped would be short enters its second week, the U.S. military is calling for reinforcements, CBS News has learned.

The commander of American ground forces in Iraq, Lt. Gen. David D. McKiernan, has asked the Pentagon to fly in part of an armored cavalry regiment from the states, about 700 soldiers, to help protect the supply lines in southern Iraq which have come under unexpectedly fierce attack from Saddam's so-called Fedayeen fighters, CBS News Correspondent David Martin reports.

The 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment from Fort Polk, La., and the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment from Fort Carson, Colo., will be deployed.

The news of reinforcements comes as 1,000 U.S. paratroopers from the 173rd Airborne landed in northern Iraq and seized an airfield, and the Army's 3rd Infantry pulled within 50 miles of Baghdad.

Not that I'm Clauswitz, but it is interesting to see.

One major question I have involves Rumsfeld. It seems he has always been a proponent of doing away with the more expensive heavy, armored units and building the army around lighter, more mobile units. I wonder if his preferences shaded his decision to start the war before the 4th ID and other armor units showed up. I hope this wasn't him trying to prove that light units, moving fast could win a war.

Sandman · « **Reply #1 on:** March 26, 2003, 08:04:30 PM »

Expecting to win a war in a week is ridiculous.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #2 on:** March 26, 2003, 08:11:07 PM »

The move to light units started LONG before Rumsfeld came into office. You can thank General Eric Shinseki and the last administration for that move. If they can afford the C-5 sorties to bring their armor and Kiowas along, then the 2nd and 3rd ACRs would pack a nice punch. I still think we've got something in the works that is going to catch everyone...including the American public by surprise. These folks aren't stupid.

Toujours Pret

Pongo · « **Reply #3 on:** March 26, 2003, 08:29:28 PM »

Pretty silly to brag about regurgitating my posts on another BBS.
lol
Your clauswitz allright.

Dune · « **Reply #4 on:** March 26, 2003, 08:34:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Pretty silly to brag about regurgitating my posts on another BBS.
lol
Your clauswitz allright.

Well then, General love muffin, you can be Clauswitz also. But I've been saying this as long as you have.

john9001 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 26, 2003, 08:35:15 PM »

from what i heard franks wanted more heavy armor but the pentagon over ruled him.

Pongo · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2003, 09:18:39 PM »

No..
You read my post in this thread

franks strat

and of course this thread
2 days befor your post

I mean..no one else on these boards cares..but if you basing your opinion of your self on your ability to generate original thought..you should probably not brag about it on the board where you read your great ideas...ok..just a note for future great revelations you come up with..

Dune · « **Reply #7 on:** March 26, 2003, 09:27:07 PM »

Pongo, I'm glad you feel that the idea that we both came up with is a great one. But trust me, the last thing in the world I need is for you to do my thinking for me.

I'd hate to have you try to think for two and drive that ego at the same time.

Yeager · « **Reply #8 on:** March 26, 2003, 09:30:22 PM »

I "DO" recall this war starting before it was designed -due to the fact that good "intelligence" indicated the location of the great arab gangster was discovered, and a subesequent strike called before the forces were entirely ready for action.

It would appear that the aforementioned strike might not have been as successful as one would have hoped. Results still unkown.

As for you two have a pissing contest, please "DO" continue.

Dune · « **Reply #9 on:** March 26, 2003, 09:33:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
I "DO" recall this war starting before it was designed -due to the fact that good "intelligence" indicated the location of the great arab gangster was discovered, and a subesequent strike called before the forces were entirely ready for action.

It would appear that the aforementioned strike might not have been as successful as one would have hoped. Results still unkown.

As for you two have a pissing contest, please "DO" continue.

All good points. But I think I'll leave Pongo to bask in the power of his mind.

Nash · « **Reply #10 on:** March 26, 2003, 09:41:54 PM »

I thought the title "Dune's "From the I told you so" Dept." looked familiar, until I realized it was plagerized from Vadr's post on AGW only yesterday titled "From the I told you so Dept."

Hangtime · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2003, 09:51:45 PM »

thee fat squeak don't sing unless we're all there.

Pongo · « **Reply #12 on:** March 26, 2003, 11:08:37 PM »

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I'd hate to have you try to think for two and drive that ego at the same time.

look at subject line for this thread..which you started.

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All good points. But I think I'll leave Pongo to bask in the power of his mind.

Interesting.
You did read and post in both those threads a day befor you posted the same concepts in AGW. Really there is nothing in your AGW thread that is not from my posts in the other threads.
But you start a thread here bragging about it. And I have a big ego.
Are you an officer in the military by any chance..lol
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with on your own.

Eagler · « **Reply #13 on:** March 26, 2003, 11:13:48 PM »

some of you guys are sounding like CBS, MSNBC and CNN ...

think they have the situationa well in control .. but feel free to ring em up and offer ur armchair advice ...

the news would love nothing more than a long drawn out bloody war ... their ratings have never been higher ... $$$$$ .... and if it doesn't happen, they at least want you to think it might.....

CptTrips · « **Reply #14 on:** March 26, 2003, 11:15:52 PM »

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Expecting to win a war in a week is ridiculous.

Exactly.

Hell, even the french lasted two.

Wab