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Offline Monk

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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2003, 06:25:42 AM »
Ya, I guess your are right.  How would I know?

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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2003, 06:49:55 AM »
Thank god for the UN! No UN soldier would allow any civilan to be hurt under his watch, especially not dutch UN soldiers.

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« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2003, 08:26:44 AM »
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Boer farmer?  
You mean Afrikaans?
And isnt that a job for the SA govt?

 Tronsky


Do a little search on it and see if the SA govt is doing any sort of job.

~1300 Boer farmers and their family member killed since ~'94.

Form your own opinion.

Here's a place to start ANC dismisses 'Kill the boer' outcry

Genocide watch covers it too.
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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2003, 09:16:22 AM »
Believe it or not the forerunner of the UN was the League of Nations a group highly touted by then US President Woodrow Wilson.  The idea of a League of Nations was proposed after the end of WWI to prevent such wars in the future.  The League was started but without the United States participation as the US Congress wisely decided not to become involved.

The League of Nations might have succeded but the reparations imposed on Germany after the first war were utterly preposterous.  Germany in no way could pay the reparations in the first place, let alone rebuild their economy.  Seems Mr Clemenceau and Mr Georges wanted to extract their pound of flesh, to which Pres. Wilson was highly opposed.  Thus just a few years after WWI it took a wheelbarrow load of Marks to purchase a loaf of bread.  Seems the Germans had to print more marks to pay their war debt thusly driving down the value of the Mark and generally the stage was set for WWII.

I like the Europeans a great deal.......wonderful people.  Lots of friends from Europe by the way .  But if history is any benchmark Europe has..........and always had problems politically that resulted in many long and devastating wars before the world wars occured.  I guess the proximity of the borders of so many counties could encourage this.

An American Statesman once warned "Beware of Foreign entanglements!".  As one recalls history we tried to not get involved in either world war........we were dragged in by default.  LOL and we were draggged in by a few european countries that realised they couldn't win without the United States support.

The United States has taken care of itself just fine.  And as an American Citizen I'm sure we can continue to do so.  Europes horrible track record of Policing itself is a great reason for the US just to sit on the sidelines............observe. .........and if anything develops that could threaten our national security then get involved.  Otherwise........lettem' do what they want.  If the European Union is going to count on France, Germany, or even Russia to help .............hope ya got a good backup plan.
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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2003, 09:42:17 AM »
The un would work if we changed it so that only the U.S.  (and maybe the brits) had a vote.   failing that... might as well just close down that expensive sewing circle.
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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2003, 09:44:21 AM »
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Yep, as we wont shoot at anything that moves.

Oh, toad, you forgot: Kosovo


And iraq , how the hell did he forget iraq?

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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2003, 10:22:39 AM »
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Thank god for the UN! No UN soldier would allow any civilan to be hurt under his watch, especially not dutch UN soldiers.



Unless theres a bottle around.


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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2003, 11:16:30 AM »
We should definitely stop giving the UN any financing, but it would be very silly and counterproductive to give up our seat on the Security Council.  All we really need is some minimum wage guy sitting on the security council to use his veto when it is in our interests....

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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2003, 11:57:10 AM »
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All we really need is some minimum wage guy sitting on the security council to use his veto when it is in our interests....

Hooligan


You mean, no changes at all then?

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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2003, 12:13:50 PM »
no crabofix... he means that we would not foot allmost the entire bill anymore for the expensive sewing circle that is the un.   He also means that we would pay our guy at the un minimum wage and give him all the respect that his salary deserved.
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« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2003, 12:41:04 PM »
UN might work if the votes were $$ weighted somehow.

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« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2003, 04:02:28 PM »
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Zimbabwe....... nothing.

Ivory Coast.... UN does ......... nothing.

Kashmir..... nothing.

Nepal........ nothing.

Burundi....... nothing.

Nigeria....... nothing.

North Korea....... nothing.

Chechnya....... nothing.

South Africa (murders of Boer Farmers) .........nothing.



Toad, you forgot Vietnam, but you did the work for us without UN, thx.

2 millon dead, 3 million wounded, most of them civilians.


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America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous

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« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2003, 04:04:16 PM »
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UN might work if the votes were $$ weighted somehow.


They always were, cost the american taxpayer a lot of money.


Regards Blitz



America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous

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« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2003, 04:06:37 PM »
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Toad, you forgot Vietnam, but you did the work for us without UN, thx.

2 millon dead, 3 million wounded, most of them civilians.




Hehe ... gawsh, Blitch ... you get a real boner when it comes to Vietnam, dontcha? ;)

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« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2003, 04:14:49 PM »
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Hehe ... gawsh, Blitch ... you get a real boner when it comes to Vietnam, dontcha? ;)



Will change my mind when the tough little country of Vietnam gets his apology from America, finally.

It's 30 years now, enough time to give the responsible politicians the time to die.  And butcher  Kissinger could claim that he's toooo old now to remember anything- just as general Pinochet :D


Regards Blitz



America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous