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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2003, 07:00:59 PM »
These reports are all lies! Just like thje lies saying some left wing anti war western politician got paid $10,000,000 by sddam hussiein.

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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2003, 07:01:59 PM »
Blitz, to help you out, an example of economic blackmail would be something like this.

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Chirac said: "These countries have been not very well behaved and rather reckless of the danger of aligning themselves too rapidly with the American position."

"It is not really responsible behavior. It is not well brought-up behavior. They missed a good opportunity to keep quiet."

"I felt they acted frivolously because entry into the European Union implies a minimum of understanding for the others," Chirac said.

"Romania and Bulgaria were particularly irresponsible to (sign the letter) when their position is really delicate. If they wanted to diminish their chances of joining Europe they could not have found a better way."


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« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2003, 07:07:30 PM »
Fatty only the USA is evil, OK?

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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2003, 07:26:34 PM »
One of the more charming things done by the Iraqi regime is feeding some prisoners, feet first, into industrial shredders.

Now, I am an American, but I didn't vote for Bush and I won't vote for Bush next time, even if they run Minnie Mouse against him.  But any government, France, Russia, Germany ...that passes on the opportunity to remove something like a Saddam Hussein from control over fellow humans ... well, they're not thinking clearly, are they? :)

I think most Russian, German and French citizens understand why your governments chose not to participate:  They did not want to do anything that smacked of "American led."   They were too concerned about national dignity to let anything get in the way.

Scroom.  

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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2003, 08:01:11 PM »
Something funny here. I don't see anti-USA french here but only anti-French US citizens...

Some of the american board users here said here that Franch are xenophobic. All i can see on this board is the opposite.

You don't know us, how can you say that we are anti-us or xenophobic ? Fox news told you so ? big deal !

The fact is that some of you come to France and actually enjoy it ! I won't put everyone on the same bag because only few of the americans board users animate the anti-french movement.

Unless we are a state of the USA, we have the rights to do what we did and we stand on it. We aren't anti-usa, we aren't pro-sadam, we just believe that war isn't the answer.

You're not agreed ? That's your right, voice it, but being unrespectful to those who voices as you do shows only your stupidity and your lack of common sense.

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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2003, 08:16:35 PM »
Part of the problem is the premise of the original post simply isn't true.  While there may be public opinion against France (mostly due to Chirac), there are no sanctions nor were there ever going to be.

The irony is that it could be directly applied, with examples, to Chirac's treatment of countries within Europe who dared to disagree with him.

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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2003, 08:28:32 PM »
same old sht from hiipies..are you one? i guess so ...




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we just believe that war isn't the answer.


Do you beleive there is never a good reason for war??


If you say yes...then i will group you with the rest of France that thinks US and its real Allies are wrong for kikn Soddoms prettythang$

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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2003, 10:04:02 PM »
Why is France facing US sanctions

It's just so much fun to abuse them....:rolleyes:

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« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2003, 05:02:06 AM »
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It's just so much fun to abuse them.... (french)


If that's not xenophobic...

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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2003, 05:08:09 AM »
taMAWle,

World, people, thinking isn't black and white.
I'm not hipie because i think war isn't the solution here. Do i have to pull out the definition ?

You're full of prejudice (préjugé ?), leave them and we could talk together.

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« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2003, 05:57:30 AM »
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1. Why France is facing US sanction for not joining the coalition of the "Willing"?

If they take actions against France then they are coercing them to do what they want. Thats against youre country's constitution which gives every man the right to his opinions and to choose what he wants to do without anyone pressuring him.

Why arent the French given that right? (I know they arent american citizens.)


2. What gives President Bush the right to make other countries do what he wants them to do by force?


3. Why arent Germany, Russia and other countries who didnt join getting the same treatment.


You guys claim to be for freedom but you dont give the freedom to choose to your allies.

Thats sounds hypocritical from where I sit.

Just something to think about. You can disagree you you want just please dont post personnal attacks (they will be ignored or ridiculed).


1)  Freedom of speech also carries with it "responsibility for speech", much as the Dixie Chicks, Susan Sarandon, etc are learning now.  That being said, France didn't just "not join" the coalition, it tried it's best to stop it.  Both by rallying support, and threatening to use it's veto power.  France did exactly what you are claiming the US is doing....coercing people to do as it wishes.

2)  Bush can't, short of military action, make a country do what he wants.  

3)  No other country organized a group to oppose the US.  They merely voiced their opinion.

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« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2003, 05:59:10 AM »
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Originally posted by Ouaibe
Something funny here. I don't see anti-USA french here but only anti-French US citizens...

Some of the american board users here said here that Franch are xenophobic. All i can see on this board is the opposite.

You don't know us, how can you say that we are anti-us or xenophobic ? Fox news told you so ? big deal !

The fact is that some of you come to France and actually enjoy it ! I won't put everyone on the same bag because only few of the americans board users animate the anti-french movement.

Unless we are a state of the USA, we have the rights to do what we did and we stand on it. We aren't anti-usa, we aren't pro-sadam, we just believe that war isn't the answer.

You're not agreed ? That's your right, voice it, but being unrespectful to those who voices as you do shows only your stupidity and your lack of common sense.


We judge by what we see.   Go through this board and find a single post by you, political in nature, that isn't in some way bashing the US.

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« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2003, 06:32:15 AM »
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We judge by what we see.   Go through this board and find a single post by you, political in nature, that isn't in some way bashing the US.



No wonder you find them "bashing the US".

You want everyone to praise the fact that US broke International laws with the war?

Your cause is as legitime as the Russian attack on Finland or Germany´s attack on Poland, their anecting of the Chez, Russias act against Hungary/Chez.

Now, show us some WMD´s, please.

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« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2003, 07:33:49 AM »
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No wonder you find them "bashing the US".

You want everyone to praise the fact that US broke International laws with the war?

Your cause is as legitime as the Russian attack on Finland or Germany´s attack on Poland, their anecting of the Chez, Russias act against Hungary/Chez.

Now, show us some WMD´s, please.


Resolution 687 put limitations on weapons Iraq could possess.

Iraq did not destroy those weapons.

We continue to find them.  We continue to destroy them.

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« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2003, 07:35:48 AM »
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Resolution 687 put limitations on weapons Iraq could possess.

Iraq did not destroy those weapons.

We continue to find them.  We continue to destroy them.


as I said: