A few questions for Americans

[Martlet]

Originally posted by crabofix
as I said:

I realize what you said.  It bears no relevance to the discussion, though.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by lord dolf vader
i.e. we have childish vindictive propagandists running our government. personally cant wait till they are gone.


alot of Americans dont approve of the war and wont be labeled traitors or whatever the new age facsists are labeling dissent this week. how they got to power is another long fought thing but one thing is for sure more Americans wanted the other guy, keep that in mind.

Just have to note, this is sterotypical...the above two paragraphs, they run hand in hand.  This breed of Americans hates the administration, thus were anti-war.  Its selfishness at its finest hour.  Even if it is proven in time that it was a "just" war, they'll blindly follow the anti-war stance simply because of who was in power during the conflict, not because of the oppressive, deadly, world-threatening regime that existed.

[crabofix]

Originally posted by Martlet
Resolution 687 put limitations on weapons Iraq could possess.

Iraq did not destroy those weapons.

We continue to find them.  We continue to destroy them.

I qute the Präzident of USA.

"Beware that Iraq might have destroyed thier WMD´s"

[Arlo]

Originally posted by crabofix
I qute the Präzident of USA.

"Beware that Iraq might have destroyed thier WMD´s"

ROFL. You're funny too. Don't you quit your day job, either though. See? I'm interested in your welfare as well. Bork!

[Martlet]

Originally posted by crabofix
I qute the Präzident of USA.

"Beware that Iraq might have destroyed thier WMD´s"

So?  Do you have a point, or are you going to continue with your cryptic one liners.

The US saw Saddam's regime as a threat.  The US took it out.  If you don't like it, do something about it.  You've done a lot of posting, but haven't said anything.

Are you angry because we haven't found WMD?  So aren't we.  2 weeks is a little too soon to start crying foul, though.  We've found labs to make them, we've found vehicles to deliver them, it's only a matter of time before we find "them".  If 6 months or a year from now we still come up empty handed, then start whining.  It won't cause me to believe they don't exist, though.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/21/international/worldspecial/21CHEM.html?ex=1051502400&en=558d236c00fc7bc9&ei=5006&partner=ALTAVISTA1

[crabofix]

Originally posted by Arlo
ROFL. You're funny too. Don't you quit your day job, either though. See? I'm interested in your welfare as well. Bork!

"Don't you quit your day job"
I already did, a long time ago, From being a Swedish Chef, to showbiz.

[Arlo]

(Hits forehead with palm) Oh no! I'm too late!

[crabofix]

Originally posted by Arlo
(Hits forehead with palm) Oh no! I'm too late!

Yep, 3 years to late. No more: "Sturdi, burdi in thy chiken sopi, BORK, BORK"

[Imp]

Originally posted by Martlet
1)  Freedom of speech also carries with it "responsibility for speech", much as the Dixie Chicks, Susan Sarandon, etc are learning now.  That being said, France didn't just "not join" the coalition, it tried it's best to stop it.  Both by rallying support, and threatening to use it's veto power.  France did exactly what you are claiming the US is doing....coercing people to do as it wishes.

2)  Bush can't, short of military action, make a country do what he wants.  

3)  No other country organized a group to oppose the US.  They merely voiced their opinion.

1. The Dixie Chicks said what they thought, which is their right, and now people hate them for this. Thats wrong. You dont respect there opinions, which is the whole point damn it. They have a right to their opinions wether you agree or not. Frreddom of opinion is about respecting other's opinions as well.
(Something I learned in my worker union meeting when some people interupt others who have different opinion and are told to shut up and let the one they interupted speak is mind. That made me realize that they have a right to their opinion and I should respect it even if I think its bull crap. You dont seem to do that, which makes you look narrow minded to me.)

2. But he can threaten consequences on countries that dont agree with him. Which is a way of saying dont go against me.

3. So the US as the right to rally country to their cause, but France doesnt? Thats ridiculeous!!!!!!!!!

[lazs2]

france was in bed with an evil dictator in the same league as stalin and hitler... france was scared witless that we, and the world would find out.   that was the whole reason for them helping saddam.  

you guys got caught with dirty hands and no way out.  
lazs

[Fatty]

Imp, I'm curious.

What is your position on Chirac's threats against countries not agreeing with France, since it was those threats that prompted Powell's comments in the first place?

As I said, again and again, there are no sanctions and will be no sanctions against France.  But France has stated it may try to deny EU membership to countries who supported the US.

You're also confusing a right to free speech with a right to be popular.  They are not the same.  Preventing the Dixie Chicks from saying anything would be denying their speech.  Not liking them because of what they said is not.

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by crabofix
You want everyone to praise the fact that US broke International laws with the war?

.

BS we had the law on our side, we were not chicken **** to
enforce the resolutions.

[sling322]

Originally posted by Imp
1. The Dixie Chicks said what they thought, which is their right, and now people hate them for this. Thats wrong. You dont respect there opinions, which is the whole point damn it. They have a right to their opinions wether you agree or not. Frreddom of opinion is about respecting other's opinions as well.

What in the hell is so hard to understand about this?

Yes...they have the right to say and feel whatever they want.  Just the same as I have the right to say that they are idiots and feel that they are morons and choose to exercise my right not to listen to their drivel on the radio anymore.

Freedom of speech is a two-way street.  I just dont understand why that concept is so hard to grasp.

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by Imp
1. They have a right to their opinions wether you agree or not. Frreddom of opinion is about respecting other's opinions as well.

BS of the highest order. We have to let them voice thier opinions yes. We have to respect those opinions? NO WAY...

Were do you get these dumb ideas?

I respect opinions sometimes if I agree or not. But I dont respect the dicky cheeks or france's leadership.

Nor do I have to  pretend too.

Now thats being american  

[crabofix]

Originally posted by X2Lee
BS we had the law on our side, we were not chicken **** to
enforce the resolutions.

You are wrong, sorry.

By the way, could you just show me the weapons that caused the res. 1441?

quoting Präs. Busk
"Beware, Iraq might have destroyed ther WMD´s"