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Offline straffo

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« on: May 13, 2003, 08:05:44 AM »
Even if I was disagreing strongly (and even if I still disagree) with some US guys here.

I won't mean I'm supporting this kind of act  :
   
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/afp/20030513/wl_mideast_afp/saudi_blasts_030513120942&e=1

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/030513/3/36yvw.html

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2003, 08:36:09 AM »
Sorry Straffo;

While I am sure your condolences are well meaning, they are, at best, hollow lip service.  You see, what America has learned is that there is no middle ground.  There is no safe route.  There is no half way.  There is no containment.  There is no appeasment.  

We, as a nation, are against terrorism in all instances and are willing to do whatever is necessary to wipe these putrid scum off the face of the earth.  As our W said, you are either with us, or with the terrorists.  If you (not meaning you Straffo) are with the terrorists, in any way shape or form, that means you support our enemy.  If you support our enemy, you become our enemy.  Our enemies will be eradicated.

So, while I appreciate your sentiment, what would be more appreciated is solid international support and real assistance in the war on terrorism.  We, all of us in the free world, have to eliminate this scurge lest we eventually be eliminated!

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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2003, 09:10:51 AM »
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Originally posted by Syzygyone
Sorry Straffo;

While I am sure your condolences are well meaning, they are, at best, hollow lip service.  You see, what America has learned is that there is no middle ground.  There is no safe route.  There is no half way.  There is no containment.  There is no appeasment.  

We, as a nation, are against terrorism in all instances and are willing to do whatever is necessary to wipe these putrid scum off the face of the earth.  As our W said, you are either with us, or with the terrorists.  If you (not meaning you Straffo) are with the terrorists, in any way shape or form, that means you support our enemy.  If you support our enemy, you become our enemy.  Our enemies will be eradicated.

So, while I appreciate your sentiment, what would be more appreciated is solid international support and real assistance in the war on terrorism.  We, all of us in the free world, have to eliminate this scurge lest we eventually be eliminated!


Amen

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2003, 09:16:12 AM »
1st off syz...the french have been dealing with terrorism LONG before you ever did...and they still are.

2nd your friend Straffo is extending a hand in friendship.....and you say its hollow.....at least he had the galls to step forward.

3rd your appeasement comment kinda sucks......lets take Saudi Arabia for instance......the have a very very bad human rights record...the teach hate the jews religious school...they spawn freaks that fly big jets into buildings.......yet since they are your biggest oil friend....trust me...appeasement was part of the process when you found out 15 where Saudi's.

blablabla so on so forth.....:cool:

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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2003, 09:25:10 AM »
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1st off syz...the french have been dealing with terrorism LONG before you ever did...and they still are.

2nd your friend Straffo is extending a hand in friendship.....and you say its hollow.....at least he had the galls to step forward.

3rd your appeasement comment kinda sucks......lets take Saudi Arabia for instance......the have a very very bad human rights record...the teach hate the jews religious school...they spawn freaks that fly big jets into buildings.......yet since they are your biggest oil friend....trust me...appeasement was part of the process when you found out 15 where Saudi's.

blablabla so on so forth.....:cool:


Slo, don't be so Slo witted.  I wasn't slamming Straffo. I said I appreciated his sentiments but, especially after what happened last night in Saudi Arabia, we, the world, and that even includes you and yours Slo, don't need condolences.  We need to go kill the m#ther f#ckers.  Plain and simple.  :D

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2003, 09:37:11 AM »
ya can't kill em all bud.......even though I kinda agree with ya 1000%.


they will APPEASE your sentiments...trust me....they'll say"my American friend....5 cents a barrel instead of 8":D

all will be forgotten wery wery quickly:p

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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2003, 09:41:01 AM »
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We need to go kill the m#ther f#ckers. Plain and simple.


I agree. It's working wonders for Israel. The Palestinian extremists don't attack as often anymore and they certainly don't seem to have any grass root support.

In fact, I can't remember the last time someone strapped explosives to their body and decided to kill dozens of women and children. But then I have a very short memory span - about a week. Which is very convenient in this particular case.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2003, 09:41:53 AM »
Syzygyone I don't think I able to understand your post fully as you know I'm not a native english speaker and I'm unsure I'll get all the subtilities.

But be sure on my individual level I NEVER supported any form of terrorism.


@SLO j'ai essayé de traduire le post de Syzygyone mais je ne suis pas sur de le comprendre correctement et je ne crois pas que ce soit le le moment de démarrer une polémique.

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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2003, 09:45:42 AM »
Straffo.

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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2003, 09:58:18 AM »
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Syzygyone I don't think I able to understand your post fully as you know I'm not a native english speaker and I'm unsure I'll get all the subtilities.

But be sure on my individual level I NEVER supported any form of terrorism.


@SLO j'ai essayé de traduire le post de Syzygyone mais je ne suis pas sur de le comprendre correctement et je ne crois pas que ce soit le le moment de démarrer une polémique.


Actually Straffo, your english is pretty good.  I do not deal in subtleties so there are none to read.  I don't for a second suggest that you have ever supported terrorism. All I am saying is that all the wailing and nashing of teeth isn't going to stop terrorism.  It's a WORLD WIDE problem and it needs WORLD WIDE cooperation to wipe it out.

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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2003, 10:01:13 AM »
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I agree. It's working wonders for Israel. The Palestinian extremists don't attack as often anymore and they certainly don't seem to have any grass root support.

In fact, I can't remember the last time someone strapped explosives to their body and decided to kill dozens of women and children. But then I have a very short memory span - about a week. Which is very convenient in this particular case.


Dowding = Neville Chamberlain = Appeasement = Death to the appeaser!  Get a clue!:eek:

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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2003, 10:08:14 AM »
il apprecie le sentiment que tu lui a transmis....mes sans fondement selon lui.....il dit qu'il sera mieux de faire quelque chose de tangible comme les supporter contre le terrorism.....il dit qu'il sera temps de vraiment les mettre sur la table ces fanatique musulmans.....en autre mots....les confronter ensembles.

il ne te descend pas du tous.....excuse mon francais mon ami.....mes mon education ces fait en anglais :D

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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2003, 10:16:30 AM »
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il apprecie le sentiment que tu lui a transmis....mes sans fondement selon lui.....il dit qu'il sera mieux de faire quelque chose de tangible comme les supporter contre le terrorism.....il dit qu'il sera temps de vraiment les mettre sur la table ces fanatique musulmans.....en autre mots....les confronter ensembles.

il ne te descend pas du tous.....excuse mon francais mon ami.....mes mon education ces fait en anglais :D


ROFLMAO:D :D

Sorry SLO, I only had two years of Latin in High School and two of French in college and that was way way long time ago and I really only took French because all the hot chickies did also.   So, with that background, I only get the vaguest of sense about appreciating the sentiment, and being against terrorism, and fanatical muslims, excuseing your French by friend, and your english and .... Well, anyway, you get the point:confused:

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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2003, 10:19:47 AM »
well syz....I was tryin to give straffo a more accurate translation of your thoughts...he was a little confused.

no put downs...promise:cool:

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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2003, 10:20:11 AM »
@SLO : thanks for the help.

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Actually Straffo, your english is pretty good.  I do not deal in subtleties so there are none to read.  I don't for a second suggest that you have ever supported terrorism. All I am saying is that all the wailing and nashing of teeth isn't going to stop terrorism.  It's a WORLD WIDE problem and it needs WORLD WIDE cooperation to wipe it out.


I know it's world wide and I think/hope despite the media agitation our intel work a bit together.

I personnaly think that undercover operation work better to fight terrorism than mediatic war (here is our difference) but I undertand Bush need for some scalp to calm public opinion.

I can explain a bit deeply my position but then we will have to switch to french so I'll be sure to write exactly what I want to.