Thank you Washington...$400 Check for me!

[mietla]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
i agree that the feds have more cash then they know what to do wityh, but they are cutting the wrong peoples taxs.

"Wrong people"? Tax cuts by definitions "go" to those who pay taxes. I've used quotes around go because that money does really change hands. It just stays with the rightful owner.

Who are the "right people" in your view? You are just spewing an old class warfare, steal from him and give it to me retoric. As someone already said you have every right to decline your share, but this is not what you want is it?

You want me to decline my share

 you cant rob peter to pay paul.

So why do you think that it is ok to take money from the rich (just because they are successful) and give it to the poor (just because they are not)

[mietla]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
oh i have no guilt. you guys get what you deserve. if all you want are scraps while others take it to the bank go ahead and keep support tax cuts that even alot in the republican party didnt want.

I'm not getting any scraps. As a matter of fact I'm not "getting" anything. My income is mine to begin with. The gov's will simply steal less of it.

The tax cut does not give you someone else's money, it lets you keep more of yours. And this is wahy you are so upset I guess. Would you like to get someone's share?

And this is what libs love to do. Faced with the tax cut, at least they want to give it to the "right" people. But then it ceases to become a tax cut. In order to do that you still have to collect the tax from the rich and the give it to the poor. Some tax cut

But then again, the libs are masters in redefining the language.

[Fatty]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
oh i have no guilt. you guys get what you deserve. if all you want are scraps while others take it to the bank go ahead and keep support tax cuts that even alot in the republican party didnt want.

Someone getting a tax cut doesn't get my panties in a wad.  I'd prefer it were me, but every cent less the government has to work with is a penny in the right direction.

The only problem I have with it is the double taxation on dividends solution is done in a typical bass-ackwards govt fashion.  Instead of letting businesses write it off as an expense (which it is) and leaving it as income (which it is), they're adding another level of red tape with a seperate income type at a seperate rate.

Of course if they did it correctly it would be bashed as tax cuts for big business.

[Mini D]

Before this crap goes any further...

Frogman.. how much did you pay in taxes last year?  Did you even work?  You whipped little mamas boy.  You come in here and start preaching on tax laws as if you've ever payed a penny in taxes in your life.  What... does it upset you that mommy and daddy are getting such a big tax break this year?  Its not really their fault they have a 23 year old tard living with them that they can technically still claim as a dependant.

Sorry... I had to vent.

MiniD

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by straffo
...when the governement give nothing in return

For your government, thats true. Yer aircraft carrier is a shambles, yer military inept, your government morally bankrupt. It's certain the french government gives it's citizens nothing for thier tax dollars.

you should on the other hand give your tax dollars to OUR government.. the one thats been keeping france and it's citizens safe from forigen invaders for the last 85 years.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
you cant rob peter to pay paul.

You can, it is the definition of entitlement programs, paid for by tax dollars.

Tax dollars = Rob Peter

Entitlements = Pay Paul

And I'm glad to hear about Portland schools doing so well.  

There is an Oregon Law requiring different schools across the state to be funded equally, I believe on a per student basis.  I wonder how a local Portland tax and spending will reconcile with the spending of Florence.

[funkedup]

I'm too drunk to read this thread, but did some no talent bellybutton clown actually come in here and argue that tax cuts are bad for the economy?

[mietla]

No, a 23 year old living with Mommy and Daddy said that they are
unfair

How is your head Funk? Try pickle or sauerkraut juice.

[Creamo]

Take it from someone that thought 4 car bombs was a good idea last night (guiness is just wrong), drink a large glass of ice cold light beer, and eat some turkey and cranberry samichs'with stuffing and gravy funkypants. Then sink into the couch and watch 5 hours of racing today.

It's a sweet thing.

Oh, and according to frog, he paid in 20K last year fyi. Sure.

[Mini D]

Originally posted by Creamo
Oh, and according to frog, he paid in 20K last year fyi. Sure.

I didn't know they taxed allowances.

MiniD

[Frogm4n]

tax cuts dont hurt the economy unless your still spending like a drunken sailor like our president is still doing.

[Golfer]

WHAAAT!!

I'm going to have to phone my parents from my apartment they aren't paying for while im getting my education they aren't financing when i get a break from flying which they aren't paying for to drive home in the car they dont pay for and have a talk with them in their home which...yep its theirs.  Heck when i was but a wee lad learning how to tie my velcro shoes and driving around in a playskool coupe, i had my first job selling vegetables at my own little stand at the end of the driveway.  Come to think of it...i can't really remember not having a job which is one of the best things my parents could have given me, a good work ethic.  Now i have two jobs on top of school and for a college kid im not doin too bad for myself (even have a large enough budget that im pondering the purchase of my first airplane) and not a damn penny of it has been paid by the "folks" as it were.  Maybe thats why i don't understand how someone could be suffering from such chronic laziness (trust me, i loaf) as to require federal government assistance to increase their bellybutton size by 2 inches a month and then cry out they can't find work when there are plenty of jobs out there.  Just driving around i see plenty of help wanted signs, even at jobs i had when i was in high school that in their own right, don't pay too bad.  (does it take an excessive amount of strength, stamina, or even brain power to operate a lawn mower on a golf course??)
Anyways, froggyboymankiddosport, i've had one lobster in my life and was made sick by it (as were the other 25 kids in my group who had it) and veal is just not appealing.  It's not from environment because my folks made themselves a good home and my dad has his own toys and nice cars to show for his hard work, and one day I'll have mine.  Oh, by the way...I'll take venison tenderloin 6 days a week and twice on sunday that i had to go out and sit in the woods in the wintertime just to bag.  So kwitchersqueakin and get off your bellybutton and get a job which serves two purposes, one it keeps you busy so you dont need to sit and surf the internet all day and a side effect of this will be an immediate stoppage of idiocy seeping from your pores.  Secondly, you'll have more money to get back from the feds...but there's a catch if you want more money back...you've got to give them a hell of a lot more than they're giving you in the first place.  Think of it as paying someone $10,000 to get back $200...even when its all said and done you're still $9,800 poorer at the end of april than you were at the end of march.  
Ok im done but i'd like to take this time to thank my cousin, Kevin, who does my taxes for me

[Arfann]

Originally posted by Golfer
WHAAAT!!

I'm going to have to phone my parents from my apartment they aren't paying for while im getting my education they aren't financing when i get a break from flying which they aren't paying for to drive home in the car they dont pay for and have a talk with them in their home which...yep its theirs.  Heck when i was but a wee lad learning how to tie my velcro shoes and driving around in a playskool coupe, i had my first job selling vegetables at my own little stand at the end of the driveway.  Come to think of it...i can't really remember not having a job which is one of the best things my parents could have given me, a good work ethic.  Now i have two jobs on top of school and for a college kid im not doin too bad for myself (even have a large enough budget that im pondering the purchase of my first airplane) and not a damn penny of it has been paid by the "folks" as it were.  Maybe thats why i don't understand how someone could be suffering from such chronic laziness (trust me, i loaf) as to require federal government assistance to increase their bellybutton size by 2 inches a month and then cry out they can't find work when there are plenty of jobs out there.  Just driving around i see plenty of help wanted signs, even at jobs i had when i was in high school that in their own right, don't pay too bad.  (does it take an excessive amount of strength, stamina, or even brain power to operate a lawn mower on a golf course??)
Anyways, froggyboymankiddosport, i've had one lobster in my life and was made sick by it (as were the other 25 kids in my group who had it) and veal is just not appealing.  It's not from environment because my folks made themselves a good home and my dad has his own toys and nice cars to show for his hard work, and one day I'll have mine.  Oh, by the way...I'll take venison tenderloin 6 days a week and twice on sunday that i had to go out and sit in the woods in the wintertime just to bag.  So kwitchersqueakin and get off your bellybutton and get a job which serves too purposes, one it keeps you busy so you dont need to sit and surf the internet all day and a side effect of this will be an immediate stoppage of idiocy seeping from your pores.  Secondly, you'll have more money to get back from the feds...but there's a catch if you want more money back...you've got to give them a hell of a lot more than they're giving you in the first place.  Think of it as paying someone $10,000 to get back $200...even when its all said and done you're still $9,800 poorer at the end of april than you were at the end of march.  
Ok im done but i'd like to take this time to thank my cousin, Kevin, who does my taxes for me

you spelled "two" wrong

[Golfer]

found it!  thank you sir

[lord dolf vader]

where you get your healthcare again ?