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Offline Lephturn

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Why I want the Jug in AH
« on: June 19, 2000, 09:32:00 AM »
Thought some of you might like to check out this article I found.

 http://www.thehistorynet.com/MilitaryHistory/articles/0896_text.htm

My favorite part is this:

"When I was badly shot up on June 26, 1943 (see sidebar, P. 28), I had 21 20mm cannon shells in that airplane, and more than 200 7.92mm machine-gun bullets. One nicked my nose and another entered my right leg, where the bullet split in half. I still have those two little pieces, by the way; they went in just under the skin. I had been hurt worse playing football and boxing. However, I had never been that scared, I'll tell you that. I was always scared--that was what made me move quick."

I can't wait for a BnZ plane that has 8 fifties and can handle 20 cannon shells without going down.    Jugs rule!

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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2000, 09:36:00 AM »
Yes, yes! Bring the Jug!

Hey Leph, can you address the 'V-Sync' on or off issue in a post in this forum?  Thanks! http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum8/HTML/000544.html

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2000, 09:37:00 AM »
Yes Bring the Jug !


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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2000, 09:45:00 AM »
I can't think of any reason the Jug would take significantly more damage than the similarly-sized F4U.

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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2000, 10:16:00 AM »
It has a Mythical Aura that gives it +10 toughness vs bullets.  

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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2000, 10:22:00 AM »
No doubt about it!  AH needs the P-47D!


   

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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2000, 11:02:00 AM »
Air Force conducted a study after WW2 and found F4U was tougher than P47

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2000, 11:07:00 AM »
I'd be interested to see the details of that study.

It's not overly surprising however.  The Hog used the same engine, but I don't think it had the same super-charging system.  The Hog was also a carrier plane, so it had strengthened members in some places to withstand carrier ops.

Ok, now make the AH F4U able to withstand 20 cannon rounds. ;-)  Only the D model though. <G>

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"MY P-47 is a pretty good ship
And she took a round coming 'cross the Channel last trip
I was thinking 'bout my baby and lettin' her rip
Always got me through so far
Well they can ship me all over this great big world
But I'll never find nothing like my North End girl
I'm taking her home with me one day, sir
Soon as we win this war"
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2000, 11:23:00 AM »
 
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I had 21 20mm cannon shells in that airplane,
                         and more than 200 7.92mm machine-gun bullets

That fellow had very good luck.


There are many cases where a human had taken a round to the head and survived. Would you consider that normal?

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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2000, 11:25:00 AM »
Good point Kats.  One 20mm round in the wrong place, and any plane ever built is going down.

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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2000, 11:27:00 AM »

I agree Leph,
this sim needs a P-47D. But dont forget the Dora  
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2000, 11:31:00 AM »
Yes,but can a f4u fly and land with a telephone pole lodged into the wing root.

I think not,the structure of the p47 in not the same as the f4u. Funked of all people should know this.

Ill post the pic of the p47 that landed safely with the pole lodge in the wing as soon as i can find it.


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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2000, 11:42:00 AM »
about the telephone poles : http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/003909.html

hehehe. Hey looks like this thing can turn too. In the URL above I asked for you guys to give their point of view about 'like which AH plane the P47 should turn' but none answered. Then, LW pilots, don't come whining "it's not right" when I will shot you down in a turnfight    

Anyway, bring the P47D with gabriesky markings and we will flame each others with WW2 druk pilot reports and loosy trusty officials reports later  

P47D is coming and if recall good, Pyro said: "the 56th will not be left over" hehehehe Gabby was 56th            

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Dat jugs bro.

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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2000, 11:57:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Saintaw:
Yes Bring the Jug !


Yeah, bring it on. With my gunnery skills I need some bigger targets =)

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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2000, 11:57:00 AM »
I definitely agree that we need a P-47.

But I think we should have the M or N, given the type of arena we have.

And don't put out the old smoke screen of "not enough made" (1,500 N models alone saw combat), or that they "never really saw combat", because its not true and its easy to prove, just look in chronological history of AHT alone.

Bring on the P-47N !

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