rshubert, come on over, let's talk..

[gofaster]

[DoctorYO]

This knucklehead thinks that numbers dont win wars...  what a laugh...  Im with  Lazs on this one...

Tell that to the rooks 8 months ago bub.

we had the best pilots, we were working as a team but the numbers were 85 vs 150 vs 150 and the Knits and Bish would pound on the rooks to see who could get the reset first...  It was a sad sight...  imagine you complete your mission with 4-6 kills under your belt and every single base within landing range would be getting attacked ...

you fight your way thru it only to find out the whole western half of your territory is being overrun...   as a result rooks got some ringers from that cluster (insert explative)  so all was not lost...


Mass (numbers) is extremely important battlefield attribute...

In modern combat, technology and superior training can offset mass a good deal..  but in a WW2 prop plane sim..  Mass in my opinion is the most important thing on the battlefield.


2 cents



DoctorYo

[muckmaw]

Look guys. You have differing views of whats fun. What's great about AH is you can both enjoy it.

The only time I get aggravated is when people ask HT to program the game to suit it to their tastes better, at the detriment of my enjoyment.

Slinging insults back and forth will only get you aggravated, though sometimes I think Lazs looks at it as a hobby.

Fly your game, and enjoy what we have.

If you really want a challenge, switch rolls for a tour.

Geez...Lazs as a "Fluffer". I think thats one of the signs of the apocolypse.

BTW, I'm a jack of all trades. I've been a dedicated Bomber pilot, and Strat weenie from day one. I've dabbled in Fighters since the beggining of the year, and I have to admit, it is fun. It requires skill, and reflexes, as well as tactical thinking. It's great when you don't have 3 hours to commit to AH.

I will always be of the opinion that Jabo and survivng, and Bombing with accuracy takes great skill also.

This is where Lazs and I have always differed in opinions.

Do what you enjoy, and leave my fun alone....that's my motto.

[SlapShot]

THANK YOU !!!

[nopoop]

Originally posted by rshubert
Everybody has an opinion.  
Nopoop, have fun.  I will, too.  But quit the kvetching about how my game is somehow inferior to yours, and gets in your way

Ahh but I never said that. I was pointing out that furballing IS a thinking mans game. I don't think your game is inferior to mine. I just want to insure "strat" ( see associated threads on base placement/fuel bunker hardness/radar placements ) is equitable to the effort put forth. If those issues are resolved ( "in the works ) my little corner of the "Big Picture" is insured.

Why not go to the DA ?? That's simple, there is only one enemy in there.. The gentlemen that hang in there are very good at what they do and they enjoy it. With the exception of the 2 on 2 I haven't been in there. That's where I learned that Curly and Nimitz are bastages..

I would suggest getting in touch with Beet1e, he is very good at the chess game besides being no slouch at the "fighting" end of it. Poor man just doesn't see the light. Too much fog and drizzle over there..

As Sax said and he's probably right, hook up with the AK's in the arena. They do it all.

My question is, did you watch the films ?

Please stop pickin on Lazs, your gonna hurt his feelings. After the cancellation of "Touched by an Angel" he hasn't been himself..

[rshubert]

Not at home.  Work computer doesn't have film viewer on it.

It may be--hell it probably is--a perfect example of the ACM technique.  It probably still won't change my mind, though.  I refuse to stop liking what I like.

[beet1e]

I wish someone would teach Lazs how to use the sig. block, thereby saving him the bother of retyping "come towards the light", and "the numbers wins the war" over and over and over again.

I'm with Rshubert.

• Furballing is an exercise in futility.
• Numerical supremacy is not necessarily what wins the war - organisation is.
• Furballing should take place in the DA, which has no strat, and not the MA, which is loaded with strat.
• It really doesn't matter which game one prefers - strat or furball. It's as silly as arguing about which is better - tea or coffee. I drink both, but I wouldn't go to Starbucks for a cup of Yorkshire tea, and I wouldn't go to an English tea room for espresso. But the coffee drinkers seem intent on smashing up the tea room because they don't like the decor, but refuse to go round the corner to Starbucks because there are more people in the tea room.

One of the reasons we don't have more organisation is because so many people are paranoid about their "freedom" being infringed. Waaaaah, I don't want to play YOUR way. Waaaah, I'm in charge of the big bad ship gun, and I'll pork this base (soon to become our base) if I want to. Waaaah, I've got bombs loaded, and if I can get them on target, I'm going to drop them. I don't care about YOUR war. Waaah, what's all this check 6 nonsense? Waaaah, so what if you get killed, it's a game.

And so then it comes down to the only thing the non-thinking man can understand - numerical supremacy, vulchfests and smashdowns.

I have already demonstrated to Apache and Nopoop in another thread that it's the furballers that are the bananas who have yet to move on to better things. I've done furballing AND level bombing AND jabo... I now do a mixture, but with a purpose in mind.

Rshubert, glad you're a Chess player because you'll understand my analogies. I was county champion for Leicestershire in my age group in 1967. One of the problems in the school chess club was the short attention span of boys who wanted nothing more than to see a lot of pieces taken. They even devised their own game, in which all pawns counted as queens - in addition to the queen itself! No game was allowed to last more than 5 minutes. Hmmm, people like that never got on my team - I was captain. Schoolboys even devised their own rules to deal with situations they didn't like. When castling, we were instructed to move the King first, not the Rook - else the opponent might accuse us of cheating by having two moves - lol. One kid I played in an inter-school tournament was once close to tears because I took one of his pawns in accordance with the en passant rule, which he'd never heard of. He tried whining to the teacher, but rules is rules... One kid didn't know the meaning of "discovered check", in which a piece is moved to expose the opponent's king to check. It was a pawn move - the pawn attacked his queen, but movement of the pawn exposed his king to check by my bishop. He didn't like that! - Tried to claim that only the piece which MOVED could put his king in check. Next move for me was PxQ - LOL.

Well, well - I see a pattern between Chess and Aces High - and not just the obvious one which is the denomination of the three countries. What I noticed in Chess was that the whiners who whined about the rules were the ones who were most inept, and had short attention spans. The really annoying thing was that they came to the chess club at all, instead of going to the school yard where they could throw things. I never did solve that mystery, just as I will never understand why the furballers come to the strat-packed MA instead of the strat-free DA.

[najdorf]

In the end, this is a combat flight sim and furballing is it's ultimate expression.

[Creamo]

Furballing is a thinking mans game. In more ways more than anything else available in the game.

Do preach…

It doesn't involve vulching, it doesn't involve gangbanging. It doesn't involve base capture or the war.

Without those fun gameplay additions, you’d be doing all your clever furballing at a neutral base. How can you work in the skilled “pirate” acm mastery gig then?  

It is pure ACM in a multi-con environment. It is about SA, about constantly reevaluating your energy and position in relation to your enemies. It is ALL about thinking, reacting and making the correct decisions in a split second on the fly..

If you don't, you die.

Ah ha!

If you keep on with that bullshat, I’ll die of laughter. “Look, it’s the Spooky Pirate Bk’s! Run or turn until you get all dizzy and crash!

It's fast, it's intense, your always in an SA overload and how you learn and adapt to it is what lights the fire.

Why are you in the AH BBS, certainly your describing BF1942.

It's all about fighting, and fighting well.

To do well in it is what us furballers strive for.

Your spooky pirates, I have admitted that. And very good fighters too? Scary!

Take few minutes and download two films from our website. They both are PERFECT examples of what a furballer strives for.

If nothing else, you'll see a thing of beauty, two of the best at their trade.

I just sold my “Best of the Duke” 20 DVD set, and the Clint Eastwood set. This IS quality film, concidering.
 

For there isn't anything better for a thinking man, then having too much information along with too many decisions to be made in a short timeframe, and having to deal with it.

We're very protective in insuring that the places in game where furballing is possible, remain so.

Otherwise boredom sets in.

I’m surprised you got that out in one breath. You breathing through your own peehole? ahhh...bastard. Double jointed waist... I bow in awe!

[Apache]

Just to make my position clear. My whine was and is the suicide/gamey element of the game, (Ramming would qualify don't you think beet1e?), not the strat thing as a whole.

[nopoop]

Definately watch them. It's what makes us tick.

A20 film are moves in slow motion.

Hell I reversed a 51 and a La7 on the same pass through the other night and was so surprised I couldn't kill the dirty bastages when they came out front..

Keeps you goin when your "reversal challenged"

One day I'll "get it" on a consistant basis and many dirty bastages will die..

..and the word WHOOT !! will be heard frequently in the house of poop.

[SlapShot]

"What I noticed in Chess was that the whiners who whined about the rules were the ones who were most inept ...

Yeah ... like that whine you just posted about being rammed in your goon by another goon and making a plea/assumption that HT could/should do something about it.

You didn't like his style of gameplay, so lets ask HT to change something to adjust to your idea of what correct is.

Ya know beet1e ... in all these threads, you have been doing a good job of making your point and counter-points, but with this post, I think that you have just exposed your King to checkmate.

[Creamo]

Seems like having Drex is actually what makes you tick.

Still " For there isn't anything better for a thinking man, then having too much information along with too many decisions to be made in a short timeframe, and having to deal with it.

We're very protective in insuring that the places in game where furballing is possible, remain so.

Otherwise boredom sets in.

... is the only thing i will think about when I see a "BK" squad title.

Too funny, S!

[nopoop]

Originally posted by Creamo
I’m surprised you got that out in one breath

Creamo, that's easily explained.  I was blessed with abnormally large breathing sacks..

..along with other parts that I haven't had much use for this late in life.

Rshubert meet Creamo..

I would caution about hurting his feelings also.

He CAN be cranky.

[Grimm]

Originally posted by lazs2
It doesn't matter about organization or thinking or anything else.   The country with the largest numbers "wins" the war.   lazs

Lazs,

I think I could say this is the case most often.   BUT not Always..

Iv been around when the Rooks have Won the War with few numbers.   In Fact Iv been in command of The RJO when we have done it.   It was done with organisation and good leadership.  

Now, thats the exection to your rule,  But numbers are not always the key.    Just most of the time


I personaly play all types of ways in AH.  I try to use each facet of the game that HTC provides.   I send alot of nights Furballing and lone wolfing.  I building battle at times and even Fluff    

No matter what mode I am playing in, I always like a good fight.