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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2003, 09:32:41 AM »
well... winning two in a row would indeed make you chessmaters tho.
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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2003, 09:43:37 AM »
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yes I agree levi....they are the Chessmasters of Cherry Picking and Individualistic flyin......last time I was rooks I prefered gettin my teeth pulled out WITHOUT novacaine.....


 Bah..

 Only Bishy rodent sissies use anesthetics.

 Just look how their pilots are stoned, brain-washed, strapped with a bomb and then merrily march off a cliff to their doom!

 What's even better, is they still miss! :rolleyes: :D :D

ps) Yup. Quantity has a quality of its own.

 The sunfish lays five billion eggs, which less than 1% of them grow to be adults. <- explains a lot, eh? :)
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2003, 10:27:12 AM »
Just to be nitpicking .. actually when GrimmCAF called off the assault on the Bishops they had the least amount of bases. They were down to 10 when we turned and attacked the Knights while the Knights were at 15 I believe.

So not sure saying we turned the smallest target is actually accurate.

RJO attacked and reduced Knights to 10 bases and then instead of finishing them off turned and attack the 2nd largest opponent at that moment the Knights.

Also we did what is usually a strategic no-no. For a large strech of time we physically seperated the Knights and Bishops. Meaning that they had no way to attack each other but instead only could hit our bases. Later in the night the Bishops retook the east noodleula and restablished a front with the Knights.
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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2003, 10:27:26 AM »
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Last night might not have been so bad if the rooks had not bravely decided to change course and bully the already smallest and overwhelmed country.  (I suppose the chances of success must have looked a lot better.) [/B]


Yes we did change Coarse.

It was my desision..  When I evalutated things this is what I saw.  Bishops and Knights both had about 15 fields.   Both had near equal numbers.   Bishops might have been less

Knights started at the smallest, but after beating up the Bishops and taking some bases we evened that out.

BUT  The Bishops had NO Strat...   Most facilitys were under 10% and Some as low as Zero.   Feild were all porked up.  They were primed to easily roll over.  

Thats when I decided it was time to spread the misery and push north against the Knights,  So at that time the Knights were actually stronger the Bishops.  

Both our advisaries were determined and fight the hard fight, its a credit to them not to just roll over.

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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2003, 10:40:40 AM »
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Also we did what is usually a strategic no-no.


What you did wasn't strategy in any event.  Well, not in any realistic sense anyway.  I'm glad everyone had fun though, but let's not kid ourselves about the amount of strategy involved in deciding to steamroll this country or that with greater than 2 to 1 odds.  :)

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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2003, 10:48:33 AM »
Todd just to debate the point yes their is actually strategy involved to some extent. At the end of the WWII the U.S. had massive odds versus the Japanese fleet and air forces. The U.S. had overwhelming for but still strategy involved in where to apply that force.

Last night their was strategy involved in where GrimmCAF decided to apply the participating squads. What fields to attack, mission types, etc.

Toward the end of the night when Knights where down to 7 bases .. yes no really complex strategy. Basically a big old baseball bat hammering away at 2 main targets at time.

I will agree with you that to a major extent no real tactics involved. The strategy was point squads and request them to do something.
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2003, 10:55:13 AM »
The only problem I have with a beautifully executed plan was that towards the end of the struggle, instead of attacking the Rooks, the Bish helped them get the reset by attacking knights.

I guess they just wanted to end the misery faster.

Frankly, I had a good time. I had no idea what was going on, but I was able to take up a 262 at 95 perks, and sawing some Rook Bombers in half.

This must have been an organizational nightmare to get this done.

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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2003, 10:56:07 AM »
Oh, and while their was strategy involved I agree with you completely that with 2 to 1 odds it doesn't have to be complex, masterful strategy to accomplish your goals.

If any side say one a reset while significantly out numbered that would be a hell of a strategic accomplishment.
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« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2003, 11:01:41 AM »
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What you did wasn't strategy in any event.  Well, not in any realistic sense anyway.  I'm glad everyone had fun though, but let's not kid ourselves about the amount of strategy involved in deciding to steamroll this country or that with greater than 2 to 1 odds.  :)

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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2003, 11:02:59 AM »
Muckmaw .. missed that. But for some reason it always seems to happen that the one side ends up not attacking the dominant country when a major drive is on to reset a country.

Glad you had fun. Oh, another problem for Rooks was toward the end the blood lust got so bad that we had some give into it and were film bombing sheep, trees, rocks and some were actually trying to scrafe blades of grass around Knight fields. :)

As for organizational nightmare .. not too bad but Grimm and RJO been emailing for over about two weeks getting it setup, rallying troops, and getting ready, etc.

The go time was set at 8:30 and via email squads were group together into strike forces with bombers assigned with escorts. Then we logged in GrimmCAF (the RJO CiC for this event) assigned them their targets and we went.

After that massive bombing attack on the Bishop the rest of the night was more of him directing the battle and the squads to targets as things developed and the fronts shifted. At the end of the night it was steam rolling the last several knight bases.
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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2003, 11:18:28 AM »
geez... whiny girls abound in this thread.

SLO, congrats, you've sunken to new lows of crying by labeling a whole country as having one flying style that you don't approve of. I'm thankful your gang isn't rooks, I enjoy shooting you guys down.  Busher is truly a class act, you're blessed to have such a fine CO.  I rarely hear him whining in here like you do.
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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2003, 01:37:10 PM »
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The problem with pre-announced JO in the MA is that one squad could get on there early and trash everything beforehand. :(


There is not "before" or "after" in a 24hrs environment. If anybody wants to really show talent in organization, do something that is not restricted to a few hours.

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« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2003, 02:01:59 PM »
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There is not "before" or "after" in a 24hrs environment. If anybody wants to really show talent in organization, do something that is not restricted to a few hours.


You mean like scoring 34 victories/14 deaths in a plane with a MA impact rating of 0.38? :p

Seriously, though, for a straight-up country vs country event, for it to be a true contest of skill and organization, each country should start out with equal resources and in a 24-hour environment, that's not going to happen.

I think a SEA country vs country of squads would be interesting, since it would be a controlled environment (of sorts).

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« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2003, 02:13:45 PM »
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What you did wasn't strategy in any event.  Well, not in any realistic sense anyway.  I'm glad everyone had fun though, but let's not kid ourselves about the amount of strategy involved in deciding to steamroll this country or that with greater than 2 to 1 odds.  :)

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I agree, nothing especially impressive other than they can get a lot of people to log on at the same time (which is no small feat I suppose).  Other than that this is just an Aces High adaptation of a Denial Of Service attack.  

Not my cup of tea, but then if I don't like it I have the option of doing something else.  (I play AH too much already anyway)  However, HTC should be sure any new players go to rook side on those nights though.  Sure wouldn't want any potential subcriber to think this is a fair picture of gameplay in AH.

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« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2003, 03:41:19 PM »
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I agree, nothing especially impressive other than they can get a lot of people to log on at the same time (which is no small feat I suppose).  Other than that this is just an Aces High adaptation of a Denial Of Service attack.  

Not my cup of tea, but then if I don't like it I have the option of doing something else.  (I play AH too much already anyway)  However, HTC should be sure any new players go to rook side on those nights though.  Sure wouldn't want any potential subcriber to think this is a fair picture of gameplay in AH.


sooo how many people are in the Damned now 300