An Average Joe On the Situation in Iraq

[Dowding]

As to US firms being awarded contracts...get over it.

You mean gold ol' British troops are good enough to die in the sand, but when it comes to making money, the US gets a bona fide monopoly? That's what we like to see - fair handedness all the way.

Europe had their contracts for the past 25 years with Saddam...now the US will do it right....ooops...I forgot...you malcontents want us to fail.

lol What are you saying? The US had absolutely nothing to do with Saddam, the support and development of his regime? That was all Europe's fault and now the US will do the right thing and rectify a problem solely created by Europe?

And you wonder why our stomachs turn at your every spineless statement.

Our? Oh my.  

So many of you are ungrateful....you have never earned a thing in your lives...

I would say that is completely inaccurate on so many levels, based on so much ignorance and assumption as to be laughable - but I wouldn't want to interrupt your two minute hate. Carry on!

Thirty days had not passed since we entered Iraq before you whiners started your "where are all the WMD's?"

Many people are expecting a little too much at this stage, true. But considering the controversy about intelligence veracity, particularly over here, it is understandable IMO. The continuous switching of the casus belli throughout the affair hasn't really filled people with confidence about this war.

Some of you just plain piss me off.

It happens.

[straffo]

It's a pure waste of virtual ink Downding

[Maniac]

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[Suave]

Toad you're an intelligent man, why do you bother here ? Next time you get the itch to reply here, imagine yourself trying to sit comfortably in a first grader's chair .

[Arfann]

Originally posted by Suave
Toad you're an intelligent man, why do you bother here ? Next time you get the itch to reply here, imagine yourself trying to sit comfortably in a first grader's chair .

Oh, now I understand! Once we elevate ourselves past juvenile thinking we will accept conservative un-think as the only reasonable way to look at things and the Lord God Bush as Christ incarnate. Thank you ever so much for clearing that up for me.

[Suave]

See . Serious discorse is not an option .

[Dowding]

So arrogantly likening people to children is serious discourse? I see, thanks for clearing that up.

[Zippatuh]

This is obviously going to be a subject of much debate for some considerable time.  I’m not sure though that I would liken this to Vietnam.  I was born during that conflict so I have no first hand knowledge of it but the social, economic, and political situations during that time I believe had a large influence over that whole ordeal.  I would like to think, and believe, that we learned and evolved since then.

I can’t speak to contracts or money either as I really do not have any information on that at all.  Knowing people though there is going to be a bit of animosity between countries because there will be some between their leaders.  I would like to think though that countries that were willing to spill blood with us will get taken care of in the end.

Those that didn’t, in the interest of trying to play nice with the other children, should probably get a snow cone or two but they can’t expect to end up with a drumstick.  That’s all going to come down to setting aside our differences in opinion and trying to work towards the big win.  Personalities being what they are though mean this isn’t going to happen smoothly and possibly not at all for some countries.

Through all this the Iraqi civilians are being caught in the middle.  What it all boils down to is a bad life for the normal Iraqi equates to a bad tour for any service personnel in the region.  Reconstruction takes time, both mentally and physically, I think we all understand this.  Being from Missouri though, someone needs to Show Me the WMD’s and do it PDQ.

Thanks for all the discussion, some more heated than others but the theme still seems to be true regardless of which side you’re on.  Present the “reason” for war and there will be no need for this discussion, neither here, across both ponds, or in Iraq.  In my book, they have until January 1, 2004 to provide some proof to us all and stabilize the civilian infrastructure.

[Rude]

Originally posted by Suave
Toad you're an intelligent man, why do you bother here ? Next time you get the itch to reply here, imagine yourself trying to sit comfortably in a first grader's chair .

Well put

[Rude]

Dowding.....

The truth of the matter is really a difference in opinions, covering a wide variety of life issues.

I'll try and simplify....I personally am not happy about our presence in Iraq, still I believe when someone is given a job to acccomplish, I let them do their job and offer as much support thru the process as possible.

Now, if they show me they are incompetent, they are replaced.

I've taken the same position with Bush....until this thing proves unfruitful for the US and it's citizens, he has my support. Now I know that may annoy many of you, but again, it's about opinions.

I truthfully lack the intelligence assets or connections thru the NSA, CIA or the State Dept. to actually know what the truth really is. So, again I'm left with continuing to offer my support to my president.

I suppose the reason I get caught up in this tripe, is that I hate typing and email....I cannot really judge the intent and make up of an individual unless I can look them in the eye or at least speak with them on the phone. Here in this forum, I'm left with only text as my barometer....some here would no sooner support the US or Bush, only becuase he's Bush.

That, I find weak at best....add to that anything remotely presented as a "hey look what I know" attiude about a topic that really none of us have the entire truth to and I tend to get irritated.

My apologies please....in the future, I'll simplify my comments here...less said in this place by me, the better.

[Dowding]

Enough said on the matter, I think.