Robert Novak going to be indicted??

[Erlkonig]

Originally posted by Udie
You make too many ASSumptions.  I'd like for you to point out where I said any of the drivel that you posted above.  I think you're going to have a hard time.  Like I said earlier,  I'm in wait and see mode.  I will hold my elected official responsible UNLIKE the democrats and clinton.  So go crawl back in your little hole,  you can't convict Bush yet as much as you'd like to.  Dang too bad we have that constitution huh?


 you might try studying both sides of the story.

I was criticizing the spin in the article you posted.  Do you agree with it or not?

[MrLars]

Originally posted by Udie
'In July I was interviewing a senior administration official on Ambassador Wilson's report when he told the trip was inspired by his wife, a CIA employee working on weapons of mass destruction. Another senior official told me the same thing. As a professional journalist with 46 years experience in Washington I do not reveal confidential sources. When I called the CIA in July to confirm Mrs. Wilson's involvement in the mission for her husband -- he is a former Clinton administration official -- they asked me not to use her name, but never indicated it would endanger her or anybody else. According to a confidential source at the CIA, Mrs. Wilson was an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operator, and not in charge of an undercover operatives'



make of it what you will.  just another piece of the new puzzle

This has already been debunked as GOP damage control. Other senior CIA officials have stated that she was infact a field operative with world wide contacts.

Seems that Novak has been taken to the woodshed and now his story is 'evolving".

It is interesting to note that Novak hasn't been a suporter of the Iraq war, still, as a conservitive commentator he has strings others can pull.

[ra]

This has already been debunked as GOP damage control.

Where?

[strk]

here is the original article


Mission to Niger
Robert Novak (archive)


July 14, 2003 |  Print |  Send


WASHINGTON -- The CIA's decision to send retired diplomat Joseph C. Wilson to Africa in February 2002 to investigate possible Iraqi purchases of uranium was made routinely at a low level without Director George Tenet's knowledge. Remarkably, this produced a political firestorm that has not yet subsided.

Wilson's report that an Iraqi purchase of uranium yellowcake from Niger was highly unlikely was regarded by the CIA as less than definitive, and it is doubtful Tenet ever saw it. Certainly, President Bush did not, prior to his 2003 State of the Union address, when he attributed reports of attempted uranium purchases to the British government. That the British relied on forged documents made Wilson's mission, nearly a year earlier, the basis of furious Democratic accusations of burying intelligence though the report was forgotten by the time the president spoke.

Reluctance at the White House to admit a mistake has led Democrats ever closer to saying the president lied the country into war. Even after a belated admission of error last Monday, finger-pointing between Bush administration agencies continued. Messages between Washington and the presidential entourage traveling in Africa hashed over the mission to Niger.

Wilson's mission was created after an early 2002 report by the Italian intelligence service about attempted uranium purchases from Niger, derived from forged documents prepared by what the CIA calls a "con man." This misinformation, peddled by Italian journalists, spread through the U.S. government. The White House, State Department and Pentagon, and not just Vice President Dick Cheney, asked the CIA to look into it.

That's where Joe Wilson came in. His first public notice had come in 1991 after 15 years as a Foreign Service officer when, as U.S. charge in Baghdad, he risked his life to shelter in the embassy some 800 Americans from Saddam Hussein's wrath. My partner Rowland Evans reported from the Iraqi capital in our column that Wilson showed "the stuff of heroism." President George H.W. Bush the next year named him ambassador to Gabon, and President Bill Clinton put him in charge of African affairs at the National Security Council until his retirement in 1998.

Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him. "I will not answer any question about my wife," Wilson told me.

After eight days in the Niger capital of Niamey (where he once served), Wilson made an oral report in Langley that an Iraqi uranium purchase was "highly unlikely," though he also mentioned in passing that a 1988 Iraqi delegation tried to establish commercial contacts. CIA officials did not regard Wilson's intelligence as definitive, being based primarily on what the Niger officials told him and probably would have claimed under any circumstances. The CIA report of Wilson's briefing remains classified.

All this was forgotten until reporter Walter Pincus revealed in the Washington Post June 12 that an unnamed retired diplomat had given the CIA a negative report. Not until Wilson went public on July 6, however, did his finding ignite the firestorm.

During the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, Wilson had taken a measured public position -- viewing weapons of mass destruction as a danger but considering military action as a last resort. He has seemed much more critical of the administration since revealing his role in Niger. In the Washington Post July 6, he talked about the Bush team "misrepresenting the facts," asking: "What else are they lying about?"

After the White House admitted error, Wilson declined all television and radio interviews. "The story was never me," he told me, "it was always the statement in (Bush's) speech." The story, actually, is whether the administration deliberately ignored Wilson's advice, and that requires scrutinizing the CIA summary of what their envoy reported. The Agency never before has declassified that kind of information, but the White House would like it to do just that now -- in its and in the public's interest.



©2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

[Krusher]

Originally posted by Manedew
Ummm it's what is commonly called a half-truth .... technicaly he didn't lie, but it was designed to mislead.   He really didn't have sex with her .... a BJ isn't sex... logicaly he wasn't lieing.  

Your spliting hairs with this kinda deal ....  is purgery intention now?  You can plead the 5th about hanious crimes but yet it's alright for them to question him about a private relationship?

Really watch what people say .... I don't belive in slaughtering people because you 'mis-heard' them or asked wrong .... examineing intentions boarders on thought crime

This is commonly called a spin

[strk]

Condi's version - from fox news

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98517,00.html

strk





HUME: Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who was asked to inquire in Africa about what Saddam Hussein might have been doing there in terms of acquiring nuclear materials, ended up with his wife's name in the paper as a CIA person. There are now suggestions that the name and her identity and her CIA work had been revealed by the White House. What do you know about that?

RICE: I know nothing of any such White House effort to reveal any of this, and it certainly would not be the way that the president would expect his White House to operate.

My understanding is that, in matters like this, as a matter of routine, a question like this is referred to the Justice Department for appropriate action, and that's what's going to be done.

SNOW: Well, when the story came out — his wife's name is in the paper — was it known in the White House that she was a CIA employee?

RICE: I'm not going to go into this, Tony, because the problem here is this has been referred to the Justice Department. I think that's the appropriate place...

SNOW: Well, but it is revealing, or it's important to figure out what the White House reaction was at the time. For years and years and years, for instance, the administrations chased Phillip Agee all around the globe because he had revealed the name of a CIA officer. This is a grave offense, if you have CIA officers.

Was there, at least within the White House, a gasp when somebody said, "Uh oh"? And if so, did the White House take any action, back then in June, when the story appeared?

 

RICE: Well, it was well known that the president of the United States does not expect the White House to get involved in such things. We will see...

HUME: You mean the revelation of names?

RICE: Anything of this kind. But let's just see what the Justice Department does. It's with the appropriate channels now, and we'll see what the Justice Department — how the Justice Department disposes of it.

SNOW: But there was nobody at the White House at the time who was saying, "Oh, we've got a problem here"?

RICE: Tony, I don't remember any such conversation. But I will say this: The Justice Department gets these things as a matter of routine. They will determine the facts. They will determine what happened, they will determine if anything happened. And they'll take appropriate action.

SNOW: Do you think the White House should release phone logs, if necessary, to figure out who talked to whom?

RICE: Tony, as a matter of course, when the Justice Department is looking into something, of course the White House cooperates.

[Udie]

Originally posted by Erlkonig
I was criticizing the spin in the article you posted.  Do you agree with it or not?

too early to say mr. kneejerk

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by Manedew
Ummm it's what is commonly called a half-truth .... technicaly he didn't lie, but it was designed to mislead.   He really didn't have sex with her .... a BJ isn't sex... logicaly he wasn't lieing.  

Your spliting hairs with this kinda deal ....  is purgery intention now?  You can plead the 5th about hanious crimes but yet it's alright for them to question him about a private relationship?

Really watch what people say .... I don't belive in slaughtering people because you 'mis-heard' them or asked wrong .... examineing intentions boarders on thought crime

If it is not sex, why is it called Oral Sex?

We're not going to start this again,are we?

Just admit it. The *****ing guy lied! He lied to cover his arnold. Any one of us did the same, but covering for it by saying "It was not sex" just makes you look like a political stooge.

[Holden McGroin]

I heard that the CIA and British Intellegence gave Bush incontrovertable evidence as to the identity of those who leaked the information to Novak.

But, after Iraq / Niger yellowcake, he isn't allowed to believe it.

[Gunthr]

Erlkonig, I know you're on the wrong side of the fence just lookin at your avatar. Is that really you? Everytime I look at that thing I pray to God my daughter doesn't bring home somebody like that.

[Erlkonig]

Originally posted by Gunthr
Erlkonig, I know you're on the wrong side of the fence just lookin at your avatar. Is that really you? Everytime I look at that thing I pray to God my daughter doesn't bring home somebody like that.

[post edited to protect the innocent.]

[Erlkonig]

Originally posted by ra
Where?

Here.

[Udie]

how could she be under cover for 3 decades if she's 40 years old?  Did she start with the CIA at 10 or 11 years old?

[ra]

Originally posted by Erlkonig
Here.

Nice job, you claimed that the story had been debunked by an interview that hadn't happened yet.  Are you a CIA undercover agent?

[Erlkonig]

Originally posted by ra
Nice job, you claimed that the story had been debunked by an interview that hadn't happened yet.  Are you a CIA undercover agent?

What are you talking about...I posted that link today.