Author Topic: Rush gets crucified by Sports press for McNabb comments (Read 2780 times)

k2cok · « **Reply #15 on:** October 01, 2003, 12:25:23 AM »

There is only one weazel, and he is much smarter and funnier than this guy - or you udie.

SOB · « **Reply #16 on:** October 01, 2003, 12:29:52 AM »

Yep, Rush was and still is a big fat idiot. Nothing new to see here.

Yeager · « **Reply #17 on:** October 01, 2003, 12:35:56 AM »

Limbaugh does pretty good considering the competition.

rpm · « **Reply #18 on:** October 01, 2003, 01:26:43 AM »

Anyone that listens to what that overstuffed bag of hot air has to say loses any shred of credibility.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 01, 2003, 01:43:59 AM »

MiniD good point about Gannon vs Owens. But with Owens it's a pattern of behavior, with Gannon it's an isolated incident. Gannon apologized to Trestmen. I don't recall Owens ever apologizing to Mooch.
I agree that there is a larger pattern though. Look at the media's portrayal of Barry Bonds for instance, before he broke the home run record.

Dinger · « **Reply #20 on:** October 01, 2003, 02:21:52 AM »

quarterbacks are always overrated. How can they not be? The media favors stories and stars. Quarterbacks touch the ball on almost every offensive play. They're the stars. Overrating McNabb has nothing to do with his race.
sports columnists will always go for the slamdunk. Why work for a column when you can get self-righteous and beat up on an idiot? Cocktails at noon taste better than those at 5.
Rush Limbaugh has made a media career out of claiming the media is liberal. Now he's said something absolutely stupid, people pounce on him.

As for TO and Gannon, well, that's a different case:
A) it wasn't explicit.
B) it wasn't the same announcers. "The Media" is an abstraction that frankly doesn't make any sense to paint as liberal/conservative, racist or whatever. Individuals are liberal or conservative; media by definition are not. So what Rush Limbaugh says doesn't reflect on other conservative news types. He's a moron, and morons can be conservative or liberal.
C) what funked said.

Torque · « **Reply #21 on:** October 01, 2003, 04:38:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Limbaugh does pretty good considering the competition.

You're a fluff ball Chuck.

Fatty · « **Reply #22 on:** October 01, 2003, 07:37:57 AM »

Rush is an idiot and will probably get fired.

However, the league does want to see black quarterbacks succeed. Just like it wants to see black head coaches get hired. Why it's such a taboo to say that I don't understand, I don't have a problem with it.

Sportswriters have never been challenged like news reporters before, I'm not suprised they're uppity this week. A series of scathing editorials by people counting stats during baseball season or trying to get their AP top 25 submitted in time impresses me not.

Mini D · « **Reply #23 on:** October 01, 2003, 07:47:44 AM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
MiniD good point about Gannon vs Owens. But with Owens it's a pattern of behavior, with Gannon it's an isolated incident. Gannon apologized to Trestmen. I don't recall Owens ever apologizing to Mooch.
I agree that there is a larger pattern though. Look at the media's portrayal of Barry Bonds for instance, before he broke the home run record.

What was said afterwards has nothing to do with what was observed at the time.

Really... neither looked professional at all. Gannon's outburst was actually longer and more irate. The announcers still made excuses for it. Everyone else still is.

But... it's OK... because people like gannon.

MiniD

Kieran · « **Reply #24 on:** October 01, 2003, 07:50:47 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm371
Anyone that listens to what that overstuffed bag of hot air has to say loses any shred of credibility.

How do you feel about Al Franken?

LePaul · « **Reply #25 on:** October 01, 2003, 07:50:59 AM »

Yawn

This is like all the boohoo'ing we had last year when Dennis Miller became an announcer.

Just when I feel any empathy for anything racial incorrect I might have heard from Rush or others...I recall how man black comedians enjoying putting white people down in their routines. If someone white did this, putting down any minority, they'd be blow out of the water.

Its a murky line.

I listen to Limbaugh and agree with him on some issues and disagree on a good many as well. If he said something that got people wound up...well...that's what he does.

Clearly strk hates Rush with every fiber of his being...any chance to pig pile on him, he's first in line. With hateful innuendos "fat boy" and such.

Mini D · « **Reply #26 on:** October 01, 2003, 07:51:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Kieran
How do you feel about Al Franken?

But al franken only insults white people.

MiniD

Kieran · « **Reply #27 on:** October 01, 2003, 07:54:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
But al franken only insults white people.

MiniD

Not specific enough. Which white people?

gofaster · « **Reply #28 on:** October 01, 2003, 07:57:07 AM »

They needed another misplaced famous name in the sports world now the Dennis Miller no longer does Monday Night Football.

At least Jim Belushi's time in the booth during the Chicago Bears game was entertaining.

As the Bears running back turned the corner and sprinted down the field for a touchdown:

Jim: "Go! Go! Go! Go!"
Al: "Wait. There's a flag down back at the line of scrimmage..."
Jim: "I don't care! Go! Go! Go! Go!"

Mini D · « **Reply #29 on:** October 01, 2003, 08:04:23 AM »

It's funny, but ever since the year "Jimmy the Greek" was fired, the NFL has been out to prove they weren't racist by driving teams to have a black quarterback, coaching staff, management and even a black owner. This has not been a covert effort.

I've had NFL ticket for a few years now and watch as much football as I can. I definately get a feel for what is being said about whom. I definately get the feeling that the league and the media have been more than likely to make excuses for McNabb and Culpepper than dog on them.

But... once again... the NFL has also moved towards a combine solution at quarterback. How tall, how strong and how fast are all that matters and the rest can be taught . Of course, thanks to the NBA, most sporting leagues have also moved to the "create a superstar" philosophy. Every team NEEDS a superstar in order to sell tickets. If it doesn't really have one, they still try to create one.

But then... it's not just the announcers and media that get caught up in everything... I can't help but chuckle every time I see Jake Plumber play in Denver. He's simply kicking bellybutton al because he's got a good core of receivers, a good running back and a great offensive line. The announcers are still amazed at how well he is doing.

I always watch Saints games and have Aaron Brooks as a fantasy quarterback in all of my leagues because he scores points. But even last year, I noticed he has a tendancy to pick his primary receiver and stare at him all the way through his pattern before throwing. I've seen him look off the defense maybe twice so far this season. Of course, their offensive line is not helping much (more of a coordinator thing... getting hammered by blitzes), but still... some really bad decisions being made. Brooks is still constantly praised.

In football, when all is said and done, it doesn't matter what color the players are. Winning matters. But in the booth, and in the articles, where announcers and the media feel the need to analyze every single aspect of the game... you can see differences... excuses offered for some and blame offered for other. What drives it depends on the flavor of the day.

MiniD