Author Topic: Poll: Which put you off WW2OL more - launch or fanboy posts? (Read 4874 times)

muckmaw · « **Reply #75 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:13:58 PM »

I hope my post cleared up at least my feelings about it.

Kieran · « **Reply #76 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:15:54 PM »

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And all I really want to know is why.

One particular poster made it his daily job to come in here and harrass players who posted anything negative about the game. See, it isn't about anyone blowing steam... no... that just couldn't be allowed. It turned into a "you're just not mature enough", or "you're too dumb to set up your computer right", that sort of thing. This particular player would periodically post his threads in the General Forum, full-well knowing what would happen. When the crap hit the fan he'd stand back and play the "whut'd I do?" juvenile B.S. he is so good at.

Killer, you DO share some of the blame for it, because you guys could have stopped it. Hardcase worships the ground you guys walk on- just read his posts. All you had to do was ask him to back off. Heck, I'd think it would have been in your best interests to do so, given how his proselytizing backfired. Now you can claim you didn't know, or were too busy, that's cool... I just don't believe it. Look how fast you found this thread when I pointed a finger back at you guys specifically. THAT is the way it has always been with you guys.

I don't dwell on this, really... last night I was up and had some energy and time to kill. Gadfly wanted to take the part of "you guys are immature idiots" because we didn't express our thoughts and opinions in a manner pleasing to him... tough. Doesn't really matter what my opinion of the game and the company is, it's my opinion. Someone asked for it and got it.

Rude · « **Reply #77 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:20:38 PM »

I know a couple of the guys at CRS...Hatch has always been good to me. CRS just want's to cashflow ww20nline...nothing wrong with that.

As to fanboy's from ww2 on our board....I don't really pay any attention to them...we have some tards here as well. I'm afraid I've gotten used to them:eek:

I play AH becuase it more closely delivers what I enjoy the most in gameplay...air to air combat. I've tried ww2 several times and they have made improvements...just most folks like drivin or runnin around on the ground over there...that's not my bag.

I wish everyone the best in their endeavors...I'll go where my dollar buys the most fun.

Batz · « **Reply #78 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:22:15 PM »

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Yup, Killer is "da head rat".

Now, let me start off by saying, I got off to a bit of a bad start here. I guess I was a little emotional when I started that other thread, and I put things a little more brash than I meant to. My appologies, that's just the way I am, I say the first thing that comes to my head, straight forward, honest, and for the most part, without remorse.

That being said, All I really want to know is why all the hate??

I see people who are members of the WWIIOL community in the WWIIOL forums promoting AH2, and then come over here and see anyone who even hints at being from the WWIIOL community get gang banged.

And all I really want to know is why.

That’s what all wwiiol cross posters say. "Well I am sorry I got off to a bad start" etc.

Don’t mention to us about folks talking about ah2 on the wwiiol boards. The only folks who can post over there are wwiiol subscribers. Threads get locked or deleted over there just as quick as your troll here did. As a matter of fact the board over at wwiiol had to excluded non-subscribers because of how terrible it got.

Wwiiol isn’t new to us. Many have played and still play. What hardcase and zeroace do in making their "friendly information posts" is spew a bunch of lies about how great wwiiol is. But when folks call umm on issues they get defensive and lie by saying those issues don’t exist or say, "you are the only one".

So after 50 posts that run 500 replies long whenever these types open their mouths folks are going to call them on it. For them to go away playing victim is ridiculous. You yourself come over here insulting folks that play this game and then run back over their and cry "see how they treated me". You do so on a forum that’s locked out to those of us who no longer subscribe to wwiiol.

Even in the thread Vulcan linked above theres numerous lies.

I don’t play wwiiol anymore because it’s not fun. I could give a long list of issues that add to my opinion of it. If you enjoy wwiiol, get back to playing it. If something new and exciting happens over at wwiiol there are enough Ah'rs playing wwiiol that folks over here trust to keep us informed.

CRS Killer · « **Reply #79 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:33:04 PM »

"I just read a thread on your board asking for AH players to e-mail some guy to start another recruiting drive on AH BBS."

No you did not. Niether this BBS, nor a "recruiting drive" is mentioned or intended. We have no intention of, and never have, to send anyone to this bbs.

It would be silly simply on the face of it. Less than 10% of a community even read a games BBS in the first place, and they are usually a vocal minority unrepresentative of the games community. It's just as silly to judge a game based on forum posters. It is of use but very limited use.

As for companies, I consider myself a friend of HT's as do several people at CRS. It's a shame our customer's have to manufacture religious jihads aganst each other. I hope AH2 does well and wish HT the best of luck.

I remain civil as always, I'm not advertising anything, and if HT doesn't want me here I assume he'll call me, send an e-mail, or post here asking me not to post.

Posting here is not in bad tase unless the contents of the post is in bad taste.

What you read Rafter asking for is people who play wwiiol and other sims to contact him so he can try to figure out ways to reach simulation players with promotions.

That's what a marketing person does, he investigates means to market a product, learning how to effectively get your message to the proper demographic is SOP. It's called market research.

Pesticide · « **Reply #80 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:34:48 PM »

as Animal and Gadfly tried to explain to me..

don't judge the game on the posts of a couple of idiots.

I don't take anything that comes out of Zeroace seriously on the WWIIOL forums, given, you guys didn't know them over here. But we see people with "free trials" do the same thing in WWIIOL all the time. Mind you, they don't mention other communities, they just come in saying "this sucks, that sucks, whatever sucks, everything sucks" bla bla bla. I can understand why you would treat the individual with hostility, but try not to hold it against the whole community. I don't anymore.

Durin · « **Reply #81 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:53:47 PM »

^^^ Yup.

The fact of the matter is that only a tiny percentage of a mmpog's population actually bother to post on their community's forum... and even then, only a rediculously small population of THOSE act like complete jerk-offs..

Unfortunately, these jerks (present in ALL communities, and they're JUST as prevalent here as they are in WWIIOL) can leave an awfully sour taste in the mouths of the more mild mannered majority.

Now, as far as WWIIOL goes, I think it's a great game. Granted, for the 1st YEAR it sucked balls. But so what? It's held MY attention for 2 years, and it's really paying off now. Today I love the game like no other. So, I guess that makes me a 'fanbois' that everyone seems to hate.

(and before anyone asks, I like AH too)

DiabloTX · « **Reply #82 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:33:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Pesticide
as Animal and Gadfly tried to explain to me..

don't judge the game on the posts of a couple of idiots.

I don't take anything that comes out of Zeroace seriously on the WWIIOL forums, given, you guys didn't know them over here. But we see people with "free trials" do the same thing in WWIIOL all the time. Mind you, they don't mention other communities, they just come in saying "this sucks, that sucks, whatever sucks, everything sucks" bla bla bla. I can understand why you would treat the individual with hostility, but try not to hold it against the whole community. I don't anymore.

Trying to get this one locked up too? WTG you tardlet.

Dsty2001 · « **Reply #83 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:35:19 PM »

Guys, honestly, please don't bash the game for what it was 2 years ago. The game has come further in the past 2 years than most games have in 5. CRS had done a great job on the game, and if you played it now, you would not even recognize it. Bashing a game cause it got bad reviews when released (especially a MMOG) is kinda silly considering there is very few MMOGs that launch without any mistakes. WW2OL is fun, I like to play it, and I like Aces High. But please cut the flaming on CRS, there a great Dev team, and they spend more time informing the community on what is going on more than any Dev team I have ever seen. Come on guys, your more mature than this

LePaul · « **Reply #84 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:38:01 PM »

Well this vocal minority has been put off by *your* boards vocal minority...and ya don't see me there trumping up the propoganda machine about how great Aces High is

DiabloTX · « **Reply #85 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:40:50 PM »

Dsty, your rambling fanboi comments about WW2OL are no different than Zeroace's were a couple of months ago. Is the game changed that much since then? I really doubt it. And if it were all that and a bag of chips some senior members of this BBS (more than just Gadfly) would have stated so on this board. All the evidence this community needs about an online game is the community itself, those of us that have been here for a while, post on a daily basis, and know each other to certain degrees. No amount of whining by you or Pesticide (perfect name BTW) will change that fact.

Dsty2001 · « **Reply #86 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:42:57 PM »

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They continue to lie and continue to keep the blowhards and liars on the staff

I'm sorry, but that is such a BS statement, explain to me where they have lied? I bet NONE of you have played the game in the past 6 months.

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Wwiiol isn’t new to us. Many have played and still play. What hardcase and zeroace do in making their "friendly information posts" is spew a bunch of lies about how great wwiiol is. But when folks call umm on issues they get defensive and lie by saying those issues don’t exist or say, "you are the only one".

So, just because you don't like WW2OL means it must be a lie if somebody says it is great? Everybody is entitled to there own opinion, but come on now, your being a hypocrite when you say that.

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CRS just want's to cashflow ww20nline...nothing wrong with that.

Come on, you can't honestly be serious? If all they cared about was the money, then they don't have much money to care about. The community is small, just like AH community.

And about complaining threads getting locked, yes they do, if they get to the point where there is alot of flaming (And that happens alot :|) but otherwise, CRS listens to our opinions and they know what needs to be fixed.

I don't hate you guys for making these horrible remarks about WW2OL & CRS, but I am dissapointed that such a mature group as yourselfs would bash a game you probably haven't played in a long time, and to make it worse, bash the community, which is full of nice, fun people. You guys really dissapoint me

DiabloTX · « **Reply #87 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:46:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Dsty2001
I'm sorry, but that is such a BS statement, explain to me where they have lied? I bet NONE of you have played the game in the past 6 months.

Wrong. Tried it 3 months ago. Came to the same conclusion I did 18 months ago:it's a POS. Try again.

Pesticide · « **Reply #88 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:49:16 PM »

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Trying to get this one locked up too? WTG you tardlet.

Man, I just complimented two members of the AH community, how is that trying to get the thread locked??

On top of that Dsty said he liked AH too, and you just jumped all over him.

we are not Zeroace and hardcase, neither of us has said one bad word about AH as a game. Yes, I made some comments about the community in a previous thread, to which I have appologized for previously.

Diablo, the kind of attitude you just exibited is the reason I made that original post in the first place.

Dsty2001 · « **Reply #89 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:49:34 PM »

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Is the game changed that much since then? I really doubt it.

How do you know the game has not changed much since you have not played it? You sir, are an *******, I didn't say ANYTHING bad about your community or try to promote WW2OL, I'm just trying to say that to bash a game for its launch is silly. WW2OL is a great game, AH is a great game, EVERYBODY HAS THERE OWN OPINIONS, and just because you disagree with them, does not mean they lied or they are jerks. WW2OL has changed ALOT since release, and when I mean ALOT, I mean ALOT. I can assure you, that if you played the game now, there would be very few stuff you would recognize. There is now over 360+ Towns in game, the graphics have changed, the Gameplay has changed, alot of new weapons have been added, the game is stable for most people, there is very few bugs in the game now, and the ones that are in game are very minor.

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And if it were all that and a bag of chips some senior members of this BBS (more than just Gadfly) would have stated so on this board.

Oh yeah, I'm 100% sure your community would tell about EVERY single update there is to ww2ol.

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