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« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2003, 01:51:54 PM »
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There are documented instances of Al-Jazeera showing up on-scene minutes BEFORE an attack occurs on US troops in Iraq...  

This is beyond having a mere bias...
So give us links to these documented instances. Or is this another "what I tell you three times is true" TWOT truth?

The closest I've found is this, but the hypothesis that they were in cahoots with the attackers is looking a bit anorexic as both Aljazeera journos were injured in the attack.
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« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2003, 02:06:01 PM »
>>Can you provide me links showing me that Iraqis dislike the position

I guess not only are you clueless about the military.. you don't even watch the news...

Every day since the "end" of the war an American soldier has been killed in Iraq.....

I guess that's the Iraqi way of saying "WE LOVE YOU, THANK YOU FOR LIBERATING US, PLEASE KEEP OCCUPYING OUR COUNTRY."

Someone over there doesn't want the US occupying their country.

Who do you think that is? The French? Or could it be the Mexicans...

Oh... I know it's the UN weapons inspectors who stayed behind to help the secret Al-Quada cells habored by Iraq.

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« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2003, 02:22:05 PM »
nice point from expert

http://www.sare.org/htdocs/hypermail/html-home/23-html/0439.html

here we go lets see peace of komunist party propaganda :rolleyes:

http://www.iacenter.org/iraq-life-hell.htm

http://www.iacenter.org/sanrep.htm

http://www.iacenter.org/

may be Ripsnort can name one coutnry whitch has been glad that somebody did occupy it .... ehhh ?
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« Reply #48 on: October 21, 2003, 02:45:28 PM »
I am convinced that if Eagler had been a German during the 1930's, he would have been a hardcore Nazi.
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« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2003, 02:47:59 PM »
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I am convinced that if Eagler had been a German during the 1930's, he would have been a hardcore Nazi.
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« Reply #50 on: October 21, 2003, 02:50:48 PM »
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Eagler, you prove Gring right.

Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.

- Hermann Gring


so those that side with Al Jazeera are now considered "pacifists" :rolleyes:

Oral & the like
as you lose the Iraq argument, the world becomes a safer place as the middle east joins the rest of the world in the 21st century - this changes' birthplace being Iraq - Bush action is justified and praised for the foresight it was - watch and see
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« Reply #51 on: October 21, 2003, 02:51:44 PM »
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he would have been a hardcore Nazi.


:rofl
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« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2003, 02:56:06 PM »
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I am convinced that if Eagler had been a German during the 1930's, he would have been a hardcore Nazi.


I am convinced, you sir do not know ur arse from a hole in the ground - just another confused youth - just stick it out, you'll grow up one day boy
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« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2003, 03:05:58 PM »
Hahaha the age card.
Yes sir, I'll go suck on my pacifier.
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« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2003, 03:49:11 PM »
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I haven't found the original documentation - I thought I had read it somewhere, but maybe not ...

http://www.foxmarketwire.com/story/0,2933,98621,00.html
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Al Jazeera has also been observed arriving at the scene of a roadside bombing or other attack before it occurs. While the network has claimed that this was because it had been misinformed that the attack had already taken place and innocently wound up getting to the scene first, this strains credulity. At the very least, the attackers are waiting for the sympathetic Arab TV to show up before causing their carnage, knowing that it will feature prominently on subsequent broadcasts and be picked up by other networks around the world.

It seems unlikely to be any coincidence, either, that crowds are often on hand as well. Increasingly, some on hand for the attacks erupt -- as if on command -- when the cameras are on, offering fervid denunciations of the United States, President Bush, so-called Iraqi collaborators in the occupation of an Arab country and similar, highly charged visuals.

More to the point, elected Iraqi officials and U.S. commanders advised our delegation of retired senior military officers and civilian defense experts that there is evidence that Al Jazeera is actually paying for such attacks. If confirmed, this would make the network and its associates enemy combatants and subject to appropriate responses.


Related links:

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/middleeast/view/49871/1/.html

http://www.albawaba.com/news/index.php3?sid=259368&lang=e&dir=news
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« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2003, 12:13:28 PM »
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I haven't found the original documentation - I thought I had read it somewhere, but maybe not ...

http://www.foxmarketwire.com/story/0,2933,98621,00.html
 

Related links:

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/middleeast/view/49871/1/.html

http://www.albawaba.com/news/index.php3?sid=259368&lang=e&dir=news
So no actual  documented instances.

Glad to see that Fox News assures us it happens [surprise, surprise ;)] - although they don't provide any actual instances either. And the US occupation government implies it in the second link - although again they fail to note actual instances and couch it all in " for God's sake, don't quote us" terms : "There are also suspicions the broadcasters could have had advance knowledge of these attacks."

The third link at least has some punch on the surface - although I note Spain is merely holding the Aljazeera journo under arrest indefinitely and hasn't actually had a trial yet. So what happened to the old tenet of innocent until proven guilty, eh?

It's interesting to note that evidence from the US government points to him holding a key position in Al Qaeda. I imagine you can guess how believable I think US government evidence will prove to be pertaining to this case. However - this is all speculation: we shall see what happens at the trial.

It's also nice to see that finally Aljazeera have something in common with the US Army: employees who've been arrested for links with Al Qaeda. Although I note the US Army has more... ;)
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« Reply #56 on: April 12, 2004, 01:51:14 PM »
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« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2004, 02:24:52 PM »
Aren't you guys pumping propoganda into Iran, instigating violence?

What gives?
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« Reply #58 on: April 12, 2004, 02:29:31 PM »
"What gives?"

Might makes right.
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« Reply #59 on: April 12, 2004, 02:51:50 PM »
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"What gives?"

Might makes right.


Yep Westy. Some here don't understand that you can't kill two or three generations of terrorists without creating another generation or two of them.

This war on terrorism will have to be won politcaly, the military option will only create more terrorists, you can't kill them all but  in trying to you'll create more than you kill.

This isn't appeasement, it's just the way it is in the world right now. We can't change it therefore we must adapt to it.
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