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« Reply #75 on: April 12, 2004, 05:22:13 PM »
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You would be surprised to see our homocide rate compared to that of some conservative states over the last 20 years.


Could that be because of the higher-than-normal population rate of Catholics?

FYI: Better to compare cities than states, since thats where the majority of voters live, predominently democrats too.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004902.html
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« Reply #76 on: April 12, 2004, 05:26:19 PM »
"Conservative radio"


Jokes on me.  I used to think you were one of the more intelligent folk but now realise I've been fooled by an online persona and his spell checker.
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« Reply #77 on: April 12, 2004, 05:28:02 PM »
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Could that be because of the higher-than-normal population rate of Catholics?

FYI: Better to compare cities than states, since thats where the majority of voters live, predominently democrats too.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004902.html


Well, you picked one year, we have done pretty well.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/region.htm

"Relatively low rates exist in the New England, Mountain, and West North Central regions "

"Rates of murder, and especially those involving guns, are higher in southern regions of the United States--in the East South Central and the West South Central regions
For over 20 years, the rates in the Pacific region were above average; in 1998 they fell below the national norm "
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« Reply #78 on: April 12, 2004, 05:33:04 PM »
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"Conservative radio"


Jokes on me.  I used to think you were one of the more intelligent folk but now realise I've been fooled by an online persona and his spell checker.


Are you talking to me?

Personally, I'd recommend never to judge someones intelligence by their political affiliation, or you'll find yourself looking pretty silly. I know some democrats as well as republicans at work that are off their rockers in politics, but are highly intelligent humans.  Politics usually involve passion from the heart, not the head (when discussing them)
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« Reply #79 on: April 12, 2004, 05:43:31 PM »
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Well, you picked one year, we have done pretty well.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/region.htm

"Relatively low rates exist in the New England, Mountain, and West North Central regions "

"Rates of murder, and especially those involving guns, are higher in southern regions of the United States--in the East South Central and the West South Central regions
For over 20 years, the rates in the Pacific region were above average; in 1998 they fell below the national norm "


Take a look at the teen firearm related homocide, how's that for scary?
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« Reply #80 on: April 12, 2004, 06:19:23 PM »
too bzy goose stepping to respond to this resurrected thread



but if anyone thinks az is anything but a tool for the terrorists and their allies, a dark media, negative force, their brains have the consistency of what we are bzy stepping over
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Re: sry
« Reply #81 on: April 12, 2004, 06:23:41 PM »
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too bzy goose stepping to respond to this resurrected thread



but if anyone thinks az is anything but a tool for the terrorists and their allies, a dark media, negative force, their brains have the consistency of what we are bzy stepping over


Speaking of which, i'm all for wildlife preservation and all, but our ballfields are full of goose turds!!
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« Reply #82 on: April 12, 2004, 06:26:55 PM »
I personally dont understand the Iraqis, ive been reading on the Al Jazeera web site and other sites etc.

So many of them dead and they are all crying about it when only they have the power to stop it. Under Saddam their life was overall crap, they all lived for the most part lived in fear. US comes in takes out saddam and from what ive seen we dont wana die either, we wana set up a free iraq with an all iraqi democracy so they can be free and live happily.

They want us to leave? We leave and the whole entire country will go into a civil war for power. If they want us out so bad, why cant they assist and help set up the government instead of kidnapping innocent people and killing people of the US.

Honestly are we really that bad? because we live free for the most part and dont have to worry about getting a good dinner etc every night? They could all have the same thing if theyd just see we are really trying to help them and we really dont wana be there anymore then they want us there.

IMHO the iraqi people should either suck it up and stop whining about getting killed or learn that not everyone has to live the exact same way. I feel sorry for the people in the cross fire because of these few piss ants causing all the trouble.

They act like we're going from town to town purposely shooting anyone in the street. *sigh* what abunch of crap:rolleyes:.

sorry for half hijacking the thread, but im about sick of this whole thing over there, and im sorry for the average iraqi just trying to survive, im not really mad at anyone just disappointed in all this crap over there.
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« Reply #83 on: April 12, 2004, 06:27:23 PM »
If it were my decision to make, I'd shut it down.

Free press in Iraq? It's not a free country.
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« Reply #84 on: April 12, 2004, 06:30:46 PM »
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It's not a free country.


No arguing that
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« Reply #85 on: April 12, 2004, 07:19:18 PM »
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If it were my decision to make, I'd shut it down.

Free press in Iraq? It's not a free country.


When the "free press" you speak of reports to the masses to basically kill US soldiers in so many words, you're right, they are no longer "free press"...they are enemy.
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« Reply #86 on: April 12, 2004, 07:27:55 PM »
If I were say, someone trying to accomplish a certain thing in Iraq, and were going to the extent of killing people to get that goal accomplished... I wouldn't give a second thought to merely shutting down an "antagonist" news agency if that would help.
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« Reply #87 on: April 12, 2004, 07:35:11 PM »
Besides... when the news showed the soldiers up on a ladder ripping down posters of whatever that 31 yr old leader of the rebels is called, we didn't see anyone here alarmed by the supression of the Iraqi's freedom of expression. Aint it the same thing?
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« Reply #88 on: April 12, 2004, 07:35:46 PM »
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Bad, biased, lying media is an essential part of a free press. By knowing that they are allowed to publish their stories without censure or control no matter how bad, you also know that your favourite media is not censured or controlled.


FWIW, Germanys press was "censored" as well as Japans initially after the war, anyone want to take a guess why?
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« Reply #89 on: April 12, 2004, 07:38:37 PM »
I agree GScholz.

But it has to evolve, imho, at the same pace as their democracy evolves.

At present, with one and not the other, it's just... incendiary.

A shame, but realistic?
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