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Offline mos

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« Reply #90 on: October 29, 2003, 09:17:56 PM »
Personally, I find HT's responses refreshing.  Never having interacted with him in private (as fullback should have to begin with), I don't know if he's equally terse in personal communications, but this isn't a "man-to-man" conversation, here.  This is a public forum and bringing this up is the same thing as if fullback had stood up in the middle of a crowded room, pointed at HT, and said "you hurt my feelings, you meanie."

I have no patience for people who feel they're entitled.  Whether or not fullback deserved the rest of the month's play time is irrelevant, as he even said in his original post.  He was unhappy with the way he was treated, and said so.  HT responded.

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« Reply #91 on: October 29, 2003, 10:41:20 PM »
Wow, this stuff is sicker than daytime TV. :0)
I am new to the posting on boards thingy  and I don't care about this subject anymore but I have two questions from a posting newbie.
#1.. Hitech why did you edit my original response and add your own line to my reply? I have read many posts with vulgar language and sick humor that made it to print, however my clean true comment to the cheerleaders was "deleted".
#2.. someone said I shouldn't have had a link to my squad web site at the end of my post, "which BTW is one of the things that was edited out of my post" however I see other links to squad pages and such on many other replies. Including a few in this subject posting. Could it be because I disagreed with you or is there something I should know?

Look I am not an HTC basher and have played almost if not 2 years here. I just simply disagreed with the response given to fullback. This is a public posting board where we are welcome to share our thoughts and feelings right? Or is this a board where if you say something not liked by management you are subject to having your post edited or even worse, be treated like a POS by the owner? Please let me know. I am trying to learn so someday I too can be a "Senior Member" Hehe    FBRaptor

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« Reply #92 on: October 30, 2003, 01:30:17 AM »
It was probably edited out because your squad shares a name with a rather infamous product in online flight sims.
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« Reply #93 on: October 30, 2003, 02:21:56 AM »
HUH? :confused:

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« Reply #94 on: October 30, 2003, 07:09:59 AM »
I edited the post Raptor and removed the personal attack.  They will not be tolerated.



To answer your question about this board.  It is an HTC sponsored/run bulletin board.  We have simple rules for posting here.  Personal attacks do not lend anything to a discussion, so they are not allowed.
Bascially, it is about showing a modicum of decency, respect, and actually contributing to a discussion thread.
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« Reply #95 on: October 30, 2003, 07:52:59 AM »
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HUH? :confused:
You've named your squad after a russian group that felt they shouldn't have to pay for warbirds.  So... they made their own server and distributed a "patch" that redirected Dale's program to go to their server for free.  Basically, stealing someone elses code and ideas and trying to take their customers too.

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« Reply #96 on: October 30, 2003, 08:45:01 AM »
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Bascially, it is about showing a modicum of decency, respect, and actually contributing to a discussion thread.


That can be a two way street. I don't see anything wrong a customer complaining about not getting what he paid for. If you have an account for fighter ace, you know when you delete your account, you still fly for the month you paid for.

I think the reaction to the customer is what should be edited. A simple explanation would have been polite. I do not see the benefits reaped by sarcasm.
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« Reply #97 on: October 30, 2003, 09:05:51 AM »
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Originally posted by hitech
I appologize for prompltly deleteing your account per your email request. I also apologize for sending you a confermation that your account was deleted. I also apologize for not sending you the TOS aggrement before deleteing your account to make sure you knew that once deleted accounts are completed for the month.

I also apologize for not presonaly calling you to make sure you truly wished to delete your account, or if you were just having a bad day.

Once again realy sorry for deleteing your account, if in any way we can take longer in deleting your next account please let us know how, we would love to serve you better.

HiTech
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Clearly, HT didnt write this response... His 5 yr old kid wrote it on HT's day off.... Darn those meddling kids!!

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« Reply #98 on: October 30, 2003, 09:22:00 AM »
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Your link was to an illegally run hack site of another product.


Actually, it's not. It is a website for a Aces High squad.

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« Reply #99 on: October 30, 2003, 09:29:17 AM »
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I think the reaction to the customer is what should be edited. A simple explanation would have been polite. I do not see the benefits reaped by sarcasm.


I disagree- Fullback never asked for an explination, he used the Boards as a soapbox for an unfounded rant against HTC because the company did exactly what he requested them to do. If he wanted an explination there's procedures (like e-mail) in place for that, and HTC is known for answering e-mails promptly. No matter how HiTech would have reacted- from saying nothing to vanishing the thread- there's always that chorus of the Righteously Indignant who would have pointed fingers and chastized Dale.

my feelings are that if you sling mud in here then don't cry foul when someone flings it back, even if that someone is Dale. Man, some of you need to grow a tougher skin.I'm surprised some of you can handle getting shot in your chute if you can get this upset about nothing.

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« Reply #100 on: October 30, 2003, 09:33:50 AM »
Anyone rermember the guy who was going to quit because of the in game user poll about which Airplanes should be modeled next?

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« Reply #101 on: October 30, 2003, 09:35:10 AM »
Skuzzy...I didn't delve very deeply into the link, but it looked like it was just their squad page.
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« Reply #102 on: October 30, 2003, 10:01:43 AM »
This will be my last post, hitech - I promise.

- You did cancelled my account as I asked. I apologize for cancelling.

- I did not know it would be deleted immediately and thought it would be at the end of the subscription. I must apologize for being an idiot. I mistakenly thought that since newspapers, ISPs, magazines, even milk delivery will stop your service at the end of the subscription, HTC would also. My mistake.

- I did not read your TOS. A very sincere apology for this. I am truly a moron.

- I sent an email that asked, "Can my account be cancelled at the end of the subscription period instead of today?" and I never received a reply. My humble apologies, sir. I never should have asked such an impertinent question.

- I considered the lack of reply to the email, together with the curt, orginal reply from you, to be less than polite and not presenting a very good image for your company and posted it here. Boy, that was really stupid. I don't know what came over me.

- I clearly stated in the original post that nonreplies to email contributed to the poor impression. I apologize for creating so much confusion on this BBS by wrongly assuming that a turnip could understand the post. I now understand that all BBS posts should be written at a level appropriate for minerals, not vegetables. I'm sorry, my fault.

- I suggested that your company email response system could be improved. Whew, I really goofed here and must apologize for suggesting that anything could possibly need improvement. I beg your forgiveness.

- You sarcastically ridiculed me and now say that this was an 'explanation' for why accounts are deleted immediately. As well you should have. As a matter of fact, please do it again soon, and often.

- During your ridicule, you did throw the TOS in my face as the reason it was deleted immediately instead of simply saying that you have no mechanism to cancel at the end of the subscription period, or referring me to the site to do it myself (I had forgotten about this feature). Am I a moron or what? Can you ever forgive me? I should feel lucky to have not received a more scathing reply.

- You said my post was 'over the top' and that I was trying to 'damage HTC.' I apologize profusely for topping over and I apologize also for being so hot-headed, while sir has remained cool, calm and directed like a laser to clear up the issue without emotion.

- You said that my 'behavior was not acceptable.' I apologize for not meeting your standards of acceptable behavior.

- You now say that you did not receive my email. If sir had said this earlier, then perhaps this entire unpleasantness could have been avoided, but... it was in the first post and the scathing had already begun. I did rudely suggest your system is not infallible. It was not returned as undeliverable and so far, only HTC seems to have problems receiving my mail, but please accept my apology anyway.

- As far as I can tell, you still feel there is no need for a simple, objective look at how HTC responds to customer email. And that is the way it should be, sir! You are the boss, the buck stops here, ride 'em cowboy. Reminds me of stories by my grandfather when I was a lad. You need not change a thing - 'love it or leave it' is what I say. That's the way we've always done it. Carry on, sir.

I wasn't upset at the original mail, but this was the 3rd time out of a total of only 6 emails I've sent to HTC that I've gotten no response. I wanted to change my name and once sent 2 emails a week apart without a response before having to call at 3AM my time to get it done. But hey... I didn't whine about that. I've learned the error of my ways and understand that I should be grateful I didn't have to walk 30 miles in the snow with no shoes like most subscribers to hand-deliver those requests.

And thank you for relentlessly sharing the breathtaking stories of your exhaulted CEO-ship and your extraordinary 10 years of experience (how ever did you do it, sir?) and managerial powers so perfect and all-knowing in ways that we, mere mortal CEOs, could never imagine. Pardon my intrusion, but I've heard whispers that if a company ignores email, or doesn't have a response system that works well, while simultaneously berating customers caught in the loop of that system who try to point these things out...  an impression of rudeness or arrogance may occur. And again, I apologize for being so rude as to point this out to you. Please don't scold me again.

So here is the final tally:
According to vast majority of minerals, HTC doesn't even need to think about improving anything - it's already nirvana, and I am but a whining, ungrateful, inappropriately behaving jerk.
You're the winner. Congratulations.
You have been awarded perk points.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2003, 10:04:30 AM by fullback »

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« Reply #103 on: October 30, 2003, 10:17:15 AM »
fullback,

I dont think its possible to write that better. Kudos to you sir! ;)
It is not a question of right and wrong. It is, however, a question of decency and being ability to restrain one’s own insecurities and continue to be professional.

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« Last Edit: October 30, 2003, 10:26:20 AM by kappa »
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« Reply #104 on: October 30, 2003, 10:22:10 AM »
Unbelievable.  

Customer gets what he asks for.  Promptly.  Then complains.

Being HiTech has gotta be hard work.

Thanks for the good work, HT.

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