Author Topic: if im in a p51 in real life can i hear a 109 200 yards behind me? (Read 1912 times)

MetaTron · « **Reply #30 on:** October 27, 2003, 07:52:49 AM »

The point is that if the sounds are left alone the canopy pass is really the only time you can hear a plane outside your own. Unless your engine is toggled off or your a glider. Since we can edit our sound files you can bet that certain people are making good use of it.

beet1e · « **Reply #31 on:** October 27, 2003, 08:10:06 AM »

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Originally posted by MetaTron
The point is that if the sounds are left alone the canopy pass is really the only time you can hear a plane outside your own. Unless your engine is toggled off or your a glider. Since we can edit our sound files you can bet that certain people are making good use of it.

AFAIK, you don't even have to do that. I believe the option exists to turn down your own sound while turning up that of everyone else. Unadulterated gamey crap.

But would you know it, some dork in here once suggested that a RL P51 pilot might open his canopy to listen out for enemy planes. Can you imagine what would happen, at combat speeds?

SOB · « **Reply #32 on:** October 27, 2003, 08:37:30 AM »

Heh, you sure do seem upset about it for someone not affected by it. Frankly, doing this sounds like a lot more trouble than it's worth, and is certainly a poor excuse for removing the ambient sounds from the game.

"Unadulterated gamey crap. " LOL, this time with the rolling eyes even. Sorry you're being cheated out of the occasional hard-earned sneak kill.

Grimm · « **Reply #33 on:** October 27, 2003, 10:29:10 AM »

Closest thing I can think of a RL experience that I have is this..

Drag Racing...

In the Past I used to Race every week in my muscle car. This ment I was in a enclosed car with Helmet (limited ear protection).
Also running with no exhaust.

When running Brackets, You can have cars with a large speed difference. This means a handicap start. I can tell you I could most certainly hear an gas Rail car closing quickly near the end of the strip. Speeds were in the 100-150 mph range.

Iv also experienced Hearing Protection ability to filter out the white noise of an engine, making other sounds aubilbe as well.

My "Guess" would be you could probably hear another Aircraft at some point, how many yards? I have no Idea.

Think of AH sounds as real, but probably as Over-Realism. (enhanced to make it a better experience)

sonofagun · « **Reply #34 on:** October 27, 2003, 11:27:06 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Unadulterated gamey crap.

Right on!!! This is the kind of crap that makes it so difficult for me to explain to my wife that this is NOT a game.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #35 on:** October 27, 2003, 11:51:53 AM »

Did anyone stop to think about my idea?

Flit · « **Reply #36 on:** October 27, 2003, 12:00:16 PM »

I think I read a post not too long ago about some jugs climbing through cloud cover on take off.
One jug acually had laid his wingtip on the elevator of his wingman
wingman noticed he could'nt pull up so he yanked it up hard, causing a 3 plane collision
I'm guessing he had a prop @ 1 foot from his cockpit when he yanked, but certainly did not hear it
BTW the plane that laid the wingtip rtb'd with slight wing damage
I think it's in the O'club somewhere

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #37 on:** October 27, 2003, 12:35:11 PM »

Flit: Or then he heard the others perfectly well but thought nothing of it as they flew in a formation.

humble · « **Reply #38 on:** October 27, 2003, 12:40:11 PM »

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Originally posted by MetaTron
A lot of things would be different in real life fester. You couldnt come back after getting killed for one thing.

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Hmmm I didn't realize that anyone EVER killed fester in here:)

JimBear · « **Reply #39 on:** October 27, 2003, 12:43:54 PM »

Dont know if it has any bearing but I have been taxiing a C-177 and looked back and had a P-51 doing its snake dance behind me. Never heard it and it was 200' back.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #40 on:** October 27, 2003, 12:54:50 PM »

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So are we so sure it isnt possible?

Absolutely positive.
-SW

kevykev56 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:32:45 PM »

If you’re so positive, quantify it for us please. I gave a clear example of how it is possible. Give me a rebuttal besides "absolutely positive". I’m not saying it would be something you would hear I am in the same boat as all the rest on this post...I don’t know.

RHIN0

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #42 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:43:21 PM »

Flying a Cozy kit plane with a small 750hp engine, I could not hear the second Cozy with a larger 1200hp engine next to me.

Aside from that, the audible noise level of an engine at full revs with wind howling across your plane at 300MPH - you won't hear anything except your own engine and thoughts.

Standing on a tarmac isn't remotely the same as sitting in a closed cockpit traveling at speed.

Heres more: The first indication pilot's had they were being shot at was the tracers flying past their cockpit, not the sound of a plane's engine 150yards behind them.

One more: Take a ride in a car thats straight pipe, no muffler, no cat, you won't hear anything outside the car.
-SW

kevykev56 · « **Reply #43 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:53:32 PM »

Can’t argue with the experience that you have. Thank you for the clear explanation. I am convinced.

RHIN0

talliven · « **Reply #44 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:30:49 PM »

I agree you wont hear other planes if your at speed. But i am quite sure you could here the bullets bouncing off ya. As I have yet to not here a bird bounce of my planes, and i've had quite a few bird strikes. Tends to happen when you fly in and out of BOS, LGA, and JFK all the time

, damn seagulls.