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Title: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Stang on November 17, 2008, 01:45:18 PM
And thanks to our new score page, our first shade killer can be uncovered!

Everyone, meet Jitt... he "flies" a bit in the MW arena.

0 kills, 20 deaths, all shockingly to one guy?

Do a MW score search for this guy... and fireplug.

 :lol

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bosco123 on November 17, 2008, 01:50:01 PM
I had a problem when one of my Wing COs went under and the wing was disbanded. I thought I could pull up the page were there were a couple months back, but to no avial, all it said was "Disbanded". Only thing I would like diffrent is, to the squad that were a few months back, have the same name insted of "Disbanded" so you can see the people on the roster.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Kuhn on November 17, 2008, 02:02:10 PM
Guess there is going to be some digging now.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 02:17:56 PM


Everyone, meet Jitt... he "flies" a bit in the MW arena.


I wonder if fireplug screams at his shade, "ALL YOU CAN DO IS BnZ!" every time he vulches.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Kuhn on November 17, 2008, 02:21:35 PM
I wonder if fireplug screams at his shade, "ALL YOU CAN DO IS BnZ!" every time he vulches.


ack-ack

 :rofl  Right on ack-ack    :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: John Curnutte on November 17, 2008, 02:25:36 PM
 I knew it would happen before the day was out ( Shades Exposed ) could make Jerry Springer an interesting show , followed with the accused and the offended and the hidden shocker to come out swinging .  :devil :rock :devil :rock
 Yep it would be a great show .              Nutte
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Shifty on November 17, 2008, 02:31:53 PM
Looks like some bullJitt going on there...

I'm not suprised at all.  :lol :
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 17, 2008, 02:36:51 PM
It's funny now. People cant hide there shades anymore. And i cant be accused of having one i vulch all the time.  :noid

 :rock :O :lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 02:38:52 PM
Looks like some bullJitt going on there...

I'm not suprised at all.  :lol :

So, you're saying that 69.9% hit percentage isn't accurate?  :D


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Shifty on November 17, 2008, 02:45:20 PM
So, you're saying that 69.9% hit percentage isn't accurate?  :D


ack-ack

 :lol

I know next time he starts screaming at somebody to duel him in the MWA. I'm going to suggest he duels Jitt and I want to watch. :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Stoliman on November 17, 2008, 02:47:16 PM
Ah yes, I found another one.  A player killed 31 times by a P40E, all from that one pilot in the P40E.

Mad skillz.     :salute
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: shreck on November 17, 2008, 02:49:27 PM
And thanks to our new score page, our first shade killer can be uncovered!

Everyone, meet Jitt... he "flies" a bit in the MW arena.

0 kills, 20 deaths, all shockingly to one guy?

Do a MW score search for this guy... and fireplug.

 :lol



 Does anyone really give a HOOT ? Certainly not worth starting a thread over  :aok

If you don't care about score, then------------> get over it already  :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BnZs on November 17, 2008, 02:50:20 PM
Yes, the part of me that screams "I can't believe anyone does this" is struggling with the part that screams "I can't believe anyone cares."
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
Does anyone really give a HOOT ? Certainly not worth starting a thread over  :aok

The particular irony in this case is that the player in question isn't shy about telling another player how much they suck or challenge other players to duel for accounts or throw out his fighter stats to show how good he is.

Yep, gotta love the irony.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 17, 2008, 03:01:21 PM
Ahhhhhhahahahaha  scweeeet gentlemen grab your pitchforks and torches. :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BaldEagl on November 17, 2008, 03:04:11 PM
I'm gonna love this.   :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: TwentyFo on November 17, 2008, 03:05:36 PM
IN
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Dadsguns on November 17, 2008, 03:06:00 PM
I wonder if fireplug screams at his shade, "ALL YOU CAN DO IS BnZ!" every time he vulches.

 :rofl

This thread is going to be interesting........   Better than Reality TV.....  

Release the hounds, they have nowhere to hide now.... :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 17, 2008, 03:14:11 PM
INtresting points



 :P
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: bongaroo on November 17, 2008, 03:16:15 PM
The particular irony in this case is that the player in question isn't shy about telling another player how much they suck or challenge other players to duel for accounts or throw out his fighter stats to show how good he is.


Telling others they suck and being a jerk?  Wow, pot I'd like you to meet kettle.  Yes, you are both black.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: iTunes on November 17, 2008, 03:17:51 PM
If one decided to become a sleuth and go unmasking these bounders, By my reckoning, you would be at this all day looking for ingame handles and what not, unless someone has a quicker method?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 17, 2008, 03:24:28 PM
LMFAO Stang!   :rofl      :aok       Oh, sorry.   :uhoh
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 03:28:42 PM
Telling others they suck and being a jerk?  Wow, pot I'd like you to meet kettle.  Yes, you are both black.

Still crying about being called 'sweet cheaks'?  You really do have to grow a thicker skin.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 17, 2008, 03:31:48 PM
Telling others they suck and being a jerk?  Wow, pot I'd like you to meet kettle.  Yes, you are both black.
You know whats funny about this?  I am a less than stellar cartoon pilot. Yet AKAK has yet tell me I suck.  Do you wonder why that is?  I think I know. :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: yanksfan on November 17, 2008, 03:32:50 PM
And thanks to our new score page, our first shade killer can be uncovered!

Everyone, meet Jitt... he "flies" a bit in the MW arena.

0 kills, 20 deaths, all shockingly to one guy?

Do a MW score search for this guy... and fireplug.

 :lol



not surprising he is real twit anyway
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Curlew on November 17, 2008, 03:35:07 PM
alright, im currious, where are you finding this information?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 17, 2008, 03:35:59 PM
alright, im currious, where are you finding this information?

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/players.php
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Dragon on November 17, 2008, 03:49:54 PM
Nothing to say here, movINg along.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 17, 2008, 03:51:26 PM
It's not too hard to figure this stuff out.  Go to midwar scores, look for people with ridiculously high kill/time scores, then look them up with the new score page.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: avionix on November 17, 2008, 03:52:03 PM
IN
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Rebel on November 17, 2008, 03:52:54 PM
<in>

<p.s.- "laaaaame">
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 17, 2008, 03:59:10 PM
Surprisingly .... Biggamer scores can't be found.
 Wonder why?  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: FLOTSOM on November 17, 2008, 04:19:46 PM
Wow, pot I'd like you to meet kettle.  Yes, you are both black.

hey isnt that a racist comment??? why do you have to bring up thier color? is color really relevant? someone is goINg to report you!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 17, 2008, 04:21:53 PM
Surprisingly .... Biggamer scores can't be found.
 Wonder why?  :rofl :rofl

You saying he's behind (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/bligar.gif) now?    :devil
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: 007Rusty on November 17, 2008, 04:28:59 PM
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/007rusty/popcorn.gif)  Love a good hunt
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/007rusty/starwars.gif)
    bombs away!!!!
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/007rusty/signmeupfb5.jpg)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BaldEagl on November 17, 2008, 04:31:19 PM
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/007rusty/popcorn.gif)  Love a good hunt
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/007rusty/starwars.gif)
    bombs away!!!!
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/007rusty/signmeupfb5.jpg)

Holy bazookas!   :O
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BMathis on November 17, 2008, 04:33:25 PM
Surprisingly .... Biggamer scores can't be found.
 Wonder why?  :rofl :rofl

I found him!

(http://www.mnstate.edu/schwartz/hiding.jpg)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: CAP1 on November 17, 2008, 04:39:00 PM
You know whats funny about this?  I am a less than stellar cartoon pilot. Yet AKAK has yet tell me I suck.  Do you wonder why that is?  I think I know. :noid

same here. he actually told me what NOT to do in a f6f vs his 38.....then threw me a <<S>>........
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: waystin2 on November 17, 2008, 04:47:45 PM
Too darn funny not to jump IN.  Nothing better than public shaming of self satisfying score potatoes. :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: NEARY on November 17, 2008, 04:53:33 PM
pssssst put in 1hunglo for MW

 the message bar said "1hunglo  landed 26 victories in a p-39d"
10 minutes later "1hunglo landed 32 victores in a p-39d"
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tec on November 17, 2008, 05:12:06 PM
Lolz... this is great.  JohnnyRa sure is good at killing JohnnyJr's Osti with a 109E.

EDIT: I think that this new feature will make it quite obvious that separate perks for each arena is not a bad idea at all.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Dadsguns on November 17, 2008, 05:17:01 PM
EDIT: I think that this new feature will make it quite obvious that separate perks for each arena is not a bad idea at all.

You hit it Top Dead Center there!!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Delirium on November 17, 2008, 05:18:35 PM
JohnnyRa has been killing Jr in a hurri1 in Early War too.

Real class act...

edit: check out Jr killing JohnnyRa's B17s in a Hurri1 for Oct.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 17, 2008, 05:20:37 PM
Banshee7:

P40E 31kills 0 Deaths....Guess who...1HungLo all 31 kills

weeeeeeeee bit odd :noid :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: NoBaddy on November 17, 2008, 05:22:10 PM
same here. he actually told me what NOT to do in a f6f vs his 38.....then threw me a <<S>>........

Acky has told me I suck before....but then, I agree with him. :)

Nice to see that Brave Sir Fireplug has been caught pumpin' his pud in the corner. Far from surprising.  :aok

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Delirium on November 17, 2008, 05:22:36 PM
the message bar said "1hunglo  landed 26 victories in a p-39d"
10 minutes later "1hunglo landed 32 victores in a p-39d"

A8Nisky is well known as a 2nd account killer, A8Tools shed light on him some time ago.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: bongaroo on November 17, 2008, 05:27:31 PM
Still crying about being called 'sweet cheaks'?  You really do have to grow a thicker skin.


ack-ack

I told you then and I'll tell you again.  I don't play for that team, please keep your advances to yourself.

Or, stop talking crap and we'll go back to playing nice?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: waystin2 on November 17, 2008, 05:30:04 PM
'sweet cheaks'



 :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Dadsguns on November 17, 2008, 05:32:13 PM
Still crying about being called 'sweet cheaks'? 
ack-ack

 :rofl

Must have been a special moment,,, and I missed it... :lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 05:44:37 PM
It's not too hard to figure this stuff out.  Go to midwar scores, look for people with ridiculously high kill/time scores, then look them up with the new score page.

It's usually high K/S, K/D and hit percentage.  Kills per hour isn't a good indicator that someone is vulching a 2nd account.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 17, 2008, 05:45:49 PM
It's usually high K/S, K/D and hit percentage.  Kills per hour isn't a good indicator that someone is vulching a 2nd account.


ack-ack

Shhhh.    :uhoh
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BMathis on November 17, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
Banshee7:

P40E 31kills 0 Deaths....Guess who...1HungLo all 31 kills

weeeeeeeee bit odd :noid :noid
Did not expect that one...  :confused:
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: iTunes on November 17, 2008, 05:49:52 PM
It's usually high K/S, K/D and hit percentage.  Kills per hour isn't a good indicator that someone is vulching a 2nd account.


ack-ack
Can you search under that criteria? or is it by name alone?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: bongaroo on November 17, 2008, 05:51:00 PM
Rather lame moment.  AkAk was pummeling me with alt at a base.  I didn't really have the time to up from further out so I kept upping.  He would come tag me with plenty of smash before I'd make it far.  He is a good shot but making him miss a pass or two was fun.

Anyways, later I actually had a bit of e coming to merge with him, but not much.  He dipped under me and took a high deflection shot.  I said something about a clean merge without a HO and he got onto a high horse.  After berating my meager flying skillz  :rolleyes: for a minute and getting into a fairly dumb argument that I really just shouldn't of even continued; I just squelched him.

Anyways, I shouldn't have brought the whole thing up anyways.  No reason for this thread to become just another sissy name calling routine.

I'll end with before this past talk we had I didn't think highly of, but did somewhat respect him.  Any man who refuses to end the name-calling bit when reasonably requested obviously isn't worth my time though.

Now, get back to burning some witches or whatever I interrupted.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 17, 2008, 05:51:22 PM
Banshee7:

P40E 31kills 0 Deaths....Guess who...1HungLo all 31 kills

weeeeeeeee bit odd :noid :noid

surprise surprise... not
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 17, 2008, 05:52:54 PM
Does anyone really give a HOOT ? Certainly not worth starting a thread over  :aok

If you don't care about score, then------------> get over it already  :D

FORUM DRAMA IS FUN.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 17, 2008, 05:54:37 PM
It's usually high K/S, K/D and hit percentage.  Kills per hour isn't a good indicator that someone is vulching a 2nd account.


ack-ack

Really?  In some of the examples I've seen the k/t score is astronomical.  I figure they hover over the field with one account, vultch the other, and then go land their kills.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: ImADot on November 17, 2008, 05:57:28 PM
Telling others they suck and being a jerk?  Wow, pot I'd like you to meet kettle.  Yes, you are both black.
hey isnt that a racist comment??? why do you have to bring up thier color? is color really relevant? someone is goINg to report you!

Flotsom, either you have never heard of the phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" (referring to them both being made of cast iron and blackened by use) or your humor went over my head.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Max on November 17, 2008, 05:58:29 PM
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6317/fplughr7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: dunnrite on November 17, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
Flotsom, you either have never heard of the phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" (referring to them both being made of cast iron and blackened by use) or your humor went over my head.

Seeing as you are a dot, it can't be hard to get over your head. :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: ImADot on November 17, 2008, 06:01:21 PM
Seeing as you are a dot, it can't be hard to get over your head. :D
:lol

Too bad being a dot doesn't make it harder for them to shoot me down.  :cry
Check my scores...nothing to hide (and nothing to be proud about either).
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 06:04:05 PM
Really?  In some of the examples I've seen the k/t score is astronomical.  I figure they hover over the field with one account, vultch the other, and then go land their kills.

I guess we're both right.  I've seen some with low (i.e. fireplug) kills per hour but looking at a tour when Dextur did it, he had a high kills per hour.  Either case, likd K/S and K/D, kills per hour can easily be manipulated it seems.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: FLOTSOM on November 17, 2008, 06:06:45 PM
Flotsom, either you have never heard of the phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" (referring to them both being made of cast iron and blackened by use) or your humor went over my head.

i was just being funny, you were calling them black. i have heard that expression since i was a child.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: mechanic on November 17, 2008, 06:30:34 PM
shade accounts are compulsive evidence to suggest that many people dont know who they are yet, many others don't like who they are yet and most despressing of all they really, really care what some other intardnet moron like me or you thinks about them..  :uhoh

Just pick a personality and stick with it for crying out loud! Just be who you are and take the rough with the smooth. There is no possible way of being liked by everyone, you have to make a choice about which people you are going to be hated by, there is always a few.

as to using shades for score manipulation...who cares..making the shade account already takes your first place prize for things to be concerned with.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Shifty on November 17, 2008, 06:36:56 PM
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6317/fplughr7.jpg)


 :lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Shane on November 17, 2008, 06:49:22 PM
shade accounts are compulsive evidence to suggest that many people dont know who they are yet, many others don't like who they are yet and most despressing of all they really, really care what some other intardnet moron like me or you thinks about them..  :uhoh

Just pick a personality and stick with it for crying out loud! Just be who you are and take the rough with the smooth. There is no possible way of being liked by everyone, you have to make a choice about which people you are going to be hated by, there is always a few.

as to using shades for score manipulation...who cares..making the shade account already takes your first place prize for things to be concerned with.

Yeah!!  what the multiple-handle dude just said!!   :furious
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: mechanic on November 17, 2008, 06:51:47 PM
 :D i forgot about that, anyone not know mech/batfink now im out of the closet
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BaldEagl on November 17, 2008, 07:11:06 PM
I've been killing my 200 shade accounts for years and still only manage 1.x K/S.   :cry
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: E25280 on November 17, 2008, 07:22:44 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/players.php
Oh, my gosh, this is too fun . . .

Please find my shade account . . .  :noid

Late War Tour 105
Kills by SWtarget in an
Il-2 by model type
Model Type Kills Percent
B-26B           2      4.545
Bf 109K-4      1      2.273
C-47A           1      2.273
F4F-4           1      2.273
F4U-1           1      2.273
F4U-1D         6      13.636
F6F-5           1      2.273
Fw 190A-8    1      2.273
LVTA4          3      6.818
M-3             4      9.091
M-8             2      4.545
Ostwind        1      2.273
P-38J           1      2.273
P-38L           1      2.273
P-51D           1      2.273
Panzer IV H    8   18.182
SBD-5           1      2.273
SeaFire         2      4.545
Wirbelwind     6     13.636
  44 Kills   

Late War Tour 105
Kills by SWtarget in an
Il-2 by player name
Player Name Killed Percent
00Knight        1      2.273
420Fatty       2      4.545
68Bwulf         1      2.273
AcEonur6       1      2.273
AKCat           1      2.273
Bellator         1      2.273
bravo            1     2.273
Brock            1     2.273
CHLUKE         1      2.273
dkff              2      4.545
DrDea           2      4.545
dtrip             1      2.273
FBDred          1      2.273
FxNytro         1      2.273
gif                1      2.273
Jayhawk        1      2.273
JD20             1      2.273
LatinGuy        1      2.273
LTARsmkr       1      2.273
LTARwojo       1      2.273
madwings       1      2.273
me109262      1      2.273
MSH              1      2.273
MYHERO         1      2.273
news             1      2.273
omega10        2      4.545
Pari               1      2.273
peterg2          1      2.273
rangers          1      2.273
Razor             1      2.273
sabin             1      2.273
SEGOODY       1      2.273
SEKayBay       1      2.273
Skinner          2      4.545
Tempest1       1      2.273
WAdrunk        2      4.545
wolf04           1      2.273
Wyatt109       1      2.273
  44 Kills   

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Lusche on November 17, 2008, 07:24:39 PM
Oh, my gosh, this is too fun . . .

Please find my shade account . . .  :noid


You apparently have 38 of them...  :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 17, 2008, 07:27:41 PM
You apparently have 38 of them...  :noid
:rofl
OMG I all but fell off my chair.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: E25280 on November 17, 2008, 07:31:57 PM
I do have to wonder, though, why they didn't put the link on the died in category.  It would be interesting to see of my deaths in a particular model, what kind of aircraft killed me most.

/hijack

EDIT -- Nevermind, just saw the Skuzzy post announcing the new score page.  I see it is being worked on.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: E25280 on November 17, 2008, 07:32:39 PM
You apparently have 38 of them...  :noid
One has to be careful to cover his tracks.   :noid









Getting kind of expensive, though . . .
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 07:37:22 PM
Banshee7:

P40E 31kills 0 Deaths....Guess who...1HungLo all 31 kills

weeeeeeeee bit odd :noid :noid

Banshee7?  Now that is a surprise...is he in Luftmorder as well?  It seems to be a common practice with a couple of others in that squadron, like Showbizz and Sally.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Lusche on November 17, 2008, 07:43:48 PM
Banshee7?  Now that is a surprise...is he in Luftmorder as well?  It seems to be a common practice with a couple of others in that squadron, like Showbizz and Sally.


ack-ack

Perkfarming on a large scale in that squad. I knew 1hungwhateva is constantly doing that things, but seeing Banshee doing this stuff now too is a sad surprise to me
 (http://forum1.onlinewelten.com/images/smilies/schnief.gif)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 07:44:23 PM
I said something about a clean merge without a HO and he got onto a high horse.  After berating my meager flying skillz  :rolleyes: for a minute and getting into a fairly dumb argument that I really just shouldn't of even continued; I just squelched him.

Actually, you whined about being HO'd and I just laughed at you and called you 'sweet cheeks'.  I'll post the film if you like.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 17, 2008, 07:47:21 PM
Actually, you whined about being HO'd and I just laughed at you and called you 'sweet cheeks'.  I'll post the film if you like.


ack-ack
Dooo eet man. :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: stickpig on November 17, 2008, 07:47:40 PM
Witch! Witch! Witch!  
"How do you know she's a witch"?  (come on you know the words) :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: CAP1 on November 17, 2008, 08:17:06 PM
why does everything i click on on my score.....regardless of whether or not i killled or got killed, show 100% hits?
 i KNOW i don't hit that well.

 :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: bongaroo on November 17, 2008, 09:11:03 PM
Actually, you whined about being HO'd and I just laughed at you and called you 'sweet cheeks'.  I'll post the film if you like.


ack-ack

.squelch akak

shoot, how does this work on the forum?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 17, 2008, 09:12:58 PM
.squelch akak

shoot, how does this work on the forum?

Translation:  AKAK just owned me and can embarrass me by posting the film.  How do I ignore him and change the subject at the same time?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 17, 2008, 09:24:09 PM
Go ahead, post the film.
What I got out of it.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 17, 2008, 09:26:15 PM
Wow....this is gonna be a fun little tool....    :O  :lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: PFactorDave on November 17, 2008, 09:42:47 PM
 :rofl

I wonder how many shade accounts will get cancelled now that it will be soooo easy to catch people doing naughty things.  HTC probably just cost themselves a fair amount of their monthly revenues!  :O
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: NoBaddy on November 17, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
HTC probably just cost themselves a fair amount of their monthly revenues!  :O

Probably not. Conspiracy theorists are wrong more often than not.  :D

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Baitman on November 17, 2008, 09:57:04 PM
Put in DR7 and bring up Sherman :rofl

Looks like a Rook & Knight roll call :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: ImADot on November 17, 2008, 10:23:38 PM
why does everything i click on on my score.....regardless of whether or not i killled or got killed, show 100% hits?
 i KNOW i don't hit that well.

You sure it's showing hit percentages?  I thought it's showing percentage of kills that plane type makes up.  If you only killed one type of plane, it would show 100%.  If you killed 4 types of planes in your Spit, each of those planes shows 25%.  Follow me?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Lusche on November 17, 2008, 10:24:55 PM
Put in DR7 and bring up Sherman :rofl

Looks like a Rook & Knight roll call :aok

 :rofl

Whole squads being annihilated


And 26 plane kills in his ack-sherman :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: CAP1 on November 17, 2008, 10:27:12 PM
You sure it's showing hit percentages?  I thought it's showing percentage of kills that plane type makes up.  If you only killed one type of plane, it would show 100%.  If you killed 4 types of planes in your Spit, each of those planes shows 25%.  Follow me?

thanks dot...i was mis-reading it.

if you gentlemen will pardon me, whilst i go and hide from myself for a bit now,,,,,,,


 :noid :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: ink on November 17, 2008, 10:51:55 PM
this has got to be one of the coolist adds to AH in a long time!!!!

  I wish there was a way you could see if the killz where around friendlies or NMEs, (i know asking to much)

seeings how 99.999999% of mine I'm out numbered, that's why I die pretty much every sortie, but damn its fun.

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: rod367th on November 17, 2008, 11:01:48 PM
check out   amsoil21  and trebor tour 105      90% of his deaths come to amsoil21.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 17, 2008, 11:18:59 PM
check out   amsoil21  and trebor tour 105      90% of his deaths come to amsoil21.

 :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 17, 2008, 11:32:08 PM
check out   amsoil21  and trebor tour 105      90% of his deaths come to amsoil21.


In buffs no less. Now we know how he games his way to rank. What a loser.

ROFL  Amsoil21 killed Trebor 235 times in tour 105 LW. Amsoil21 finished 1st over all and 2nd in fhgiters.  He should be stripped of these.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 17, 2008, 11:46:49 PM

In buffs no less. Now we no how he games his way to rank. What a loser.

ROFL  Amsoil21 killed Trebor 235 times in tour 105 LW. Amsoil21 finished 1st over all and 2nd in fhgiters.  He should be stripped of these.

And away we go....
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: grizz441 on November 18, 2008, 12:05:43 AM

In buffs no less. Now we no how he games his way to rank. What a loser.

ROFL  Amsoil21 killed Trebor 235 times in tour 105 LW. Amsoil21 finished 1st over all and 2nd in fhgiters.  He should be stripped of these.

Lol, look at his killed by in Panzer and Tempest, all by Amsoil21 with 100% hit percentage.  O man, that's sad now.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: PFactorDave on November 18, 2008, 12:07:59 AM
Lol, look at his killed by in Panzer and Tempest, all by Amsoil21 with 100% hit percentage.  O man, that's sad now.

Weren't you accusing him of some skulduggery not too long ago Grizz?  Weren't there several folks who posted to support Ams?  Wonder what they think of him now?

 :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 18, 2008, 12:11:26 AM
Lol, look at his killed by in Panzer and Tempest, all by Amsoil21 with 100% hit percentage.  O man, that's sad now.

If I'm not mistaken, the percentage listed is a percentage of total kills in a certain type of a certain type, and not a "hit precentage".
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 18, 2008, 12:15:13 AM
For Example:

Late War Tour 106
Kills by Newman5 of a
Ki-84-Ia by player name

Player Name Killed Percent

OBX              1     25.000
Patch31        1      25.000
sleepy24       1      25.000
vart69          1      25.000


4 total kills, one for each player listed.  1/4 = 25%
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 18, 2008, 12:22:32 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the percentage listed is a percentage of total kills in a certain type of a certain type, and not a "hit precentage".

aye.    :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: grizz441 on November 18, 2008, 12:33:54 AM
Weren't you accusing him of some skulduggery not too long ago Grizz?  Weren't there several folks who posted to support Ams?  Wonder what they think of him now?

 :rofl

Lol, I made some serious implications in my scoring system thread.  I got a lot of flack for it you could say hehe.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: ColKLink on November 18, 2008, 12:49:09 AM
nothing unusual about klinks stats, i die alot to hoacaines....i knew that allready....;) cool page though. :rock
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 18, 2008, 12:53:59 AM
The new stats is quickly becoming the score padders worst nightmare, I love it.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 12:57:23 AM
Eagerly await our great c/o broovinator to pass a verdict on this poop.
In my eyes it's straight up shade killing and I'm in the same squad. Apparently that trebor acc been around since 103 tour.

I haven't played since July, disappointing to find out one of the new peeps is a shadekiller... planning on returning once I get one of those wacky new cyborg x sticks.
I don't care too much about ranking but I do have a morals (few) which I like to force upon people around me :devil. Makes me a semi-hypocrite for laughing at other peoples mental weakness as they shadekill when there's one in my squad. semi-supervillain and semi-god are things I'm ok with being... a totally tubular SEMIHYPOCRITE THO, nu uh...

on behalf of the few I apologize for harboring weapons of mass destruction, amazingly hot babes and a shadekiller.... the overall number 1 latewar shadekiller of all time nontheless...
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: SHawk on November 18, 2008, 01:05:51 AM
Oh MY Oh My! the WitchHunt is ON!! I'm gonna love this.
Now off to check those Pacerr stats :lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Guppy35 on November 18, 2008, 01:07:19 AM
Perkfarming on a large scale in that squad. I knew 1hungwhateva is constantly doing that things, but seeing Banshee doing this stuff now too is a sad surprise to me
 (http://forum1.onlinewelten.com/images/smilies/schnief.gif)

Yep, I'm a bit surprised too and disappointed.  A bit hard to explain away 31 GV kills of the same guy while in a P40 or any bird for that matter.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 18, 2008, 01:07:54 AM
Oh dear.  This is going to get ugly. :t
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Lusche on November 18, 2008, 01:13:54 AM
The new stats is quickly becoming the score padders worst nightmare, I love it.

 :rofl  :aok


I think this new stuff has the biggest impact on AH community since the big arena split  :devil
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Xasthur on November 18, 2008, 01:15:17 AM
check out   amsoil21  and trebor tour 105      90% of his deaths come to amsoil21.

I shot him down a few times last tour (i think?), he sucked.

The guy didn't even put up a fight.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Prayerz on November 18, 2008, 01:30:30 AM
<Yells> Cut his <badword> head off! :devil :rock
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: grizz441 on November 18, 2008, 01:53:49 AM
I shot him down a few times last tour (i think?), he sucked.

The guy didn't even put up a fight.

Was probably his way of trying to 'hide' his shade account by taking it off a few times and letting others kill it.  Obviously didn't work though lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 18, 2008, 02:22:04 AM
One thing I have noticed is the vulching a shade account isn't really being done for rank anymore, which in my opinion stems from those that do it for score being exposed and having their ranks erased by HTC.  The new trend seems to be to vulch a shade account to farm perks to use in the LW, which is why you see a lot using fighters to vulch 2nd accounts in a GV.  This way, the kills won't count towards their fighter score, potentially exposing these twits and they still get perks for the kills. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 18, 2008, 02:29:37 AM
One thing I have noticed is the vulching a shade account isn't really being done for rank anymore,
ack-ack

*cough*  Amsoil21   *cough*
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: A8TOOL on November 18, 2008, 02:40:35 AM
If this was the Old West people would be getting shot right now.  :lol



(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:0tNiRgfIOkmMFM:http://www.dbtechno.com/images/Microsoft_Xbox_Live_cheaters.jpg)  Don't like em and never have. If they were in my squad I'd boot em..... or leave


Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Grind on November 18, 2008, 04:01:18 AM
I haven't decided which is worse, a cheater or snitch.... Bottom line is having a "shade account" is allowed.  No, I don't think its right but I've been around long enough and have had my tail kicked enough to know who the good sticks are regardless of what their score may imply.

 :salute

A8Grind
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: grizz441 on November 18, 2008, 04:10:52 AM
I haven't decided which is worse, a cheater or snitch.... Bottom line is having a "shade account" is allowed.  No, I don't think its right but I've been around long enough and have had my tail kicked enough to know who the good sticks are regardless of what their score may imply.

 :salute

A8Grind

A sympathetic response coming from somebody who shares a squadron with a known Shader, typical!  :P
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Grind on November 18, 2008, 04:28:18 AM
Im not making excuses for anyone Grizz.  I call them like I see them.  People make mistakes and do stupid things.  Hopefully they learn from them. 

 :D

A8Grind
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Larry on November 18, 2008, 04:43:04 AM
One thing I have noticed is the vulching a shade account isn't really being done for rank anymore, which in my opinion stems from those that do it for score being exposed and having their ranks erased by HTC.  The new trend seems to be to vulch a shade account to farm perks to use in the LW, which is why you see a lot using fighters to vulch 2nd accounts in a GV.  This way, the kills won't count towards their fighter score, potentially exposing these twits and they still get perks for the kills. 


ack-ack


Yep that's what JohnnyRa was doing in the MW the last three times Iv caught him. He's been in a 109E shooting JohnnyJrs wirble. Not once did JR shoot at him but once I made an attack he would shoot then tower out when I shot at him. He even admitted he was doing it for perks because "he's paying for both so he can do what ever he wants with them".
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 18, 2008, 04:53:40 AM

Yep that's what JohnnyRa was doing in the MW the last three times Iv caught him. He's been in a 109E shooting JohnnyJrs wirble. Not once did JR shoot at him but once I made an attack he would shoot then tower out when I shot at him. He even admitted he was doing it for perks because "he's paying for both so he can do what ever he wants with them".

wasnt that the month he was #1 but then got it taken away on the last day ?  :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 18, 2008, 04:54:58 AM
*cough*  Amsoil21   *cough*

I stand corrected. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 18, 2008, 05:00:47 AM
I haven't decided which is worse, a cheater or snitch.... Bottom line is having a "shade account" is allowed.  No, I don't think its right but I've been around long enough and have had my tail kicked enough to know who the good sticks are regardless of what their score may imply.

 :salute

A8Grind

It really has nothing to do with having a shade account and I'm everyone else agrees with that.  The issue lies in the fact that these particular players are using these shade accounts to manipulate the rank system and to farm perks without any risk to them.

It says a lot about the person's character that they have to resort to what is basically cheating to gain something they can't achieve (usually due to lack of skill) through normal means.  None of the players that have been exposed have sufficient skill to achieve these ranks or gain the perks without cheating, otherwise they wouldn't have to do it.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 18, 2008, 05:02:31 AM

Yep that's what JohnnyRa was doing in the MW the last three times Iv caught him. He's been in a 109E shooting JohnnyJrs wirble. Not once did JR shoot at him but once I made an attack he would shoot then tower out when I shot at him. He even admitted he was doing it for perks because "he's paying for both so he can do what ever he wants with them".

Yeah, they do it quite frequently.  Got to love a father teaching his son to be a tool.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: rod367th on November 18, 2008, 05:11:08 AM

i,like this now when you here i know your killing a shades for score yopu can just say go look at stats. You hear it all the time in mid war. I'm just 10th and i hear it every day i fly lol. ps RS59
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: uptown on November 18, 2008, 05:11:54 AM
Well done HTC :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: LYNX on November 18, 2008, 06:07:06 AM
This is really neat.....I like it.  For HTC to make this move they couldn't have been earning much from shade accounts.

One thing intrigues me though ..... Who's the w****r who's gleefully checked me out. :mad: 

How rude  :furious
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Larry on November 18, 2008, 07:10:41 AM
Yeah, they do it quite frequently.  Got to love a father teaching his son to be a tool.


ack-ack


Yea and when I catch them and say something its always "I can do what I want". HTC took their score away but I would like to see their perks taken away and if they did it again their accounts deleted.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Skuzzy on November 18, 2008, 07:22:18 AM
We do remove the perks as well and they get a warning.

However, I have also had to warn other players about confronting the player in question as well.  Someone gaming the game will not be tolerated, but we will also not tolerate players confronting others in the arenas. 

Doing that creates paranoia and angst for any new player coming into the game.  The proper way to handle to this situation is to bring it directly to HTC's attention (email or PM's work fine) and we will take care of it.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Getback on November 18, 2008, 07:26:52 AM
Where do you find who killed who?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Larry on November 18, 2008, 07:33:15 AM
We do remove the perks as well and they get a warning.

However, I have also had to warn other players about confronting the player in question as well.  Someone gaming the game will not be tolerated, but we will also not tolerate players confronting others in the arenas. 

Doing that creates paranoia and angst for any new player coming into the game.  The proper way to handle to this situation is to bring it directly to HTC's attention (email or PM's work fine) and we will take care of it.


Thats great to hear about the perks. I hacent seen them in the MW in a few weeks maybe they learned thier lesson. Ill be sure to send film in if I see it happening again.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: NCLawman on November 18, 2008, 07:40:08 AM
We do remove the perks as well and they get a warning.

However, I have also had to warn other players about confronting the player in question as well.  Someone gaming the game will not be tolerated, but we will also not tolerate players confronting others in the arenas. 

Doing that creates paranoia and angst for any new player coming into the game.  The proper way to handle to this situation is to bring it directly to HTC's attention (email or PM's work fine) and we will take care of it.

**** HIJACK ****

Skuzzy must have hired a secretary!  I could not find one misspelled word in the whole post!  (As an aside, how does she look?  I sure hope it is the girl pictured sitting on the bomb a few posts back!!!!!   :D  )
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RTHolmes on November 18, 2008, 07:55:41 AM
We do remove the perks as well and they get a warning.

good to hear :aok 

skuzzy any plans to split perks with arenas in the same way as scores are split? I'm pretty sure this would reduce the perk farming by alot.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Wobbly on November 18, 2008, 08:11:39 AM
Where do you find who killed who?

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,252260.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,252260.0.html)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: iTunes on November 18, 2008, 08:33:52 AM
How many is that now that have been exposed? Anyway, I'm glad to see this new system in place, the "Duke nukem" type players can't actually hide anymore and manipulate their way to the next "level"
I still don't understand why someone would pay for an extra account to shoot down. I mean, how many of us actually fly the perk crates on a regular basis? So to me it's a pricey way of acheiving zip, nada, zero.
Very dissapointed to see that guy who ranked #1 have a shade, I'm not really into the whole score thing but there's probably a lot of guys who are and work to get up there, If I was one of them then I'd be feeling a bit flat.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BaldEagl on November 18, 2008, 08:59:35 AM
Weren't there several folks who posted to support Ams?  Wonder what they think of him now?

 :rofl

IIRC Bruv said he had been "helping" Amsoil21 with his score/rank and it was all legit.

I'm sure it's just an unfortunate coincidence that trebor runs into Amsoil21 so often.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Banshee7 on November 18, 2008, 09:09:24 AM
Ah yes, I found another one.  A player killed 31 times by a P40E, all from that one pilot in the P40E.

Mad skillz.     :salute

 :rofl :lol :rofl  if only you were there!...nice story line to follow that one. 


Anytime you wanna show me some skills look me up...I'm always up for some "learning"
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Banshee7 on November 18, 2008, 09:12:01 AM
Banshee7:

P40E 31kills 0 Deaths....Guess who...1HungLo all 31 kills

weeeeeeeee bit odd :noid :noid

Yup. and it was a mission success.  The mission was to get people to CRY...and look who was the 1st person to look it up *cough*.  And to back it up for not being for score:  Before 31 kills - Attack score = 20 ;  After 31 kills - Attack score = 33. 
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 18, 2008, 09:13:09 AM
IIRC Bruv said he had been "helping" Amsoil21 with his score/rank and it was all legit.

I'm sure it's just an unfortunate coincidence that trebor runs into Amsoil21 so often.

I assure you none of the squad knew he had done this..
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: LYNX on November 18, 2008, 09:14:06 AM
How many is that now that have been exposed? Anyway, I'm glad to see this new system in place, the "Duke nukem" type players can't actually hide anymore and manipulate their way to the next "level"
I still don't understand why someone would pay for an extra account to shoot down. I mean, how many of us actually fly the perk crates on a regular basis? So to me it's a pricey way of acheiving zip, nada, zero.
Very dissapointed to see that guy who ranked #1 have a shade, I'm not really into the whole score thing but there's probably a lot of guys who are and work to get up there, If I was one of them then I'd be feeling a bit flat.

You must be refering to this

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/bustedcopy.jpg)

How fortunate to run into Trebor (Trebor is a brand of mint candy in the UK) so often.  Personally I have shot down as many single types of bombers in 1 tour but never the same guy.

We see that Trebor is an active account in that it did / does fight back.  Check his stats 9 kills to 268 deaths.  Is it feasible that it's a newbie in the wrong place at the right time, for Amsoil at least? 

If the IP's are different which I suspect they are I wounder about the service provider.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury I put it to you that this stinks to high heaven.

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Banshee7 on November 18, 2008, 09:16:17 AM
Perkfarming on a large scale in that squad. I knew 1hungwhateva is constantly doing that things, but seeing Banshee doing this stuff now too is a sad surprise to me
 (http://forum1.onlinewelten.com/images/smilies/schnief.gif)

I will admit...1HungLo talked me into it.  Out of the 31 kills about 25 of them were all proxies (totaled 9 Perks with a 1.25 ENY perk bonus).  After doing it i immediately deleted my account for doing such a stupid thing.  But I'm back now under the name of "OutCast"
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Stang on November 18, 2008, 09:16:45 AM
The 9 kills Trebor got were probably noobs augering trying to vulch him that got in Amsoil's way.

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: bongaroo on November 18, 2008, 09:18:32 AM
Translation:  AKAK just owned me and can embarrass me by posting the film.  How do I ignore him and change the subject at the same time?

Sorry, you lost something in translation.  Somewhere along the way I figured out what kind of person akak can be and don't want to waste my time with him anymore.

He can post any film he would like; it isn't up to me.

But looking through the thread, I'd say akak came to the same conclusion and so this is entirely a non-issue.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BaldEagl on November 18, 2008, 09:21:40 AM
The 9 kills Trebor got were probably noobs augering trying to vulch him that got in Amsoil's way.



And the one kill on Amsoil was probably a collision or auger on Amsoil's part.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: iTunes on November 18, 2008, 09:30:39 AM
You must be refering to this

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/bustedcopy.jpg)

How fortunate to run into Trebor (Trebor is a brand of mint candy in the UK) so often.  Personally I have shot down as many single types of bombers in 1 tour but never the same guy.

We see that Trebor is an active account in that it did / does fight back.  Check his stats 9 kills to 268 deaths.  Is it feasible that it's a newbie in the wrong place at the right time, for Amsoil at least? 

If the IP's are different which I suspect they are I wounder about the service provider.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury I put it to you that this stinks to high heaven.


Stinks? Christ that's just taking the shade thing to a whole new level. I know your always there or there about at the end of each tour lynx, Feel sorry for the guys like you who actually put time and effort into getting up the ranks, How many is that now we've found? 4/5?
When I was on the AH home page, it kinda struck me as odd that there was a guy who I've never heard of before ranked as #1, Usually you have the usual guys all in the mix at the end and up pops this guy from nowhere, glad to see it was exposed by the community, don't care if folks want to get extra perks, it's the manipulation of the rank system to the detriment of  the legit guys who  work to get up there that doesn't sit well with me :mad:
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: TheflyingElk on November 18, 2008, 09:47:50 AM
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< S\Sharpens Antlers and trots behind the Lynch mob :devil  O"YEA in
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: LYNX on November 18, 2008, 09:50:15 AM
Stinks? Christ that's just taking the shade thing to a whole new level. I know your always there or there about at the end of each tour lynx, Feel sorry for the guys like you who actually put time and effort into getting up the ranks, How many is that now we've found? 4/5?
When I was on the AH home page, it kinda struck me as odd that there was a guy who I've never heard of before ranked as #1, Usually you have the usual guys all in the mix at the end and up pops this guy from nowhere, glad to see it was exposed by the community, don't care if folks want to get extra perks, it's the manipulation of the rank system to the detriment of  the legit guys who  work to get up there that doesn't sit well with me :mad:

The funny thing is I don't actually put alot of effort into it.  It's the way I play the game.  I play all of it.  Not a master of any specific mode just a jack of all trades but I do like to have a say where CV command is concerned  ;)

Just looked up Trebor and he's been Amsiols gimp since tour 103.  Feel sorry for Bruv and his squad.  All eyes will be focused.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Nilsen on November 18, 2008, 09:52:46 AM
Uh oh.. im gonna be soooo busted  :uhoh
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Kazaa on November 18, 2008, 09:57:46 AM
Evidently the matter of Amsoil as a potential shade killer has just been brought up in our squad forum, which he has not yet replied in.

The question of  Amsoil shade killing has also already been brought up in the later stages of tour 105, he denied all claims so the benefit of the doubt was given.

After looking at Amsoil’s stats I can tell you that  he has a really good K/D ratio in the following planes without trebor as a victory, so the skill is there. On top of all that he's one of the nicest gentlemen I've ever had the pleasure of speaking to.

F6F-6
Hurry 2C
Ki84-1a
Spitfire Mk16

However looking at trebor’s stats is a different story, I find it very hard to believe that trebor is anything other then a shade of Amsoil and I’m very disappointed.

On behalf of The Few, I would like to apologise to anyone who now feel robed of having their name in light for tour 105. I would also like to state that as a squad which has been around in AH2 for more then 3 years now, have never promoted or will ever promote shade killing for rank.

All that being said, I’m only a squad member of The Few and I’m interested to hear what Bruv has to say about the matter at hand.

Kazaa,


<S>
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: SHawk on November 18, 2008, 10:10:25 AM
IIRC Bruv said he had been "helping" Amsoil21 with his score/rank and it was all legit.

I'm sure it's just an unfortunate coincidence that trebor runs into Amsoil21 so often.

And to think I was actually telling this guy how to work on his attack rank (which was keeping him from #1), very dissapointing to say the least.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: LYNX on November 18, 2008, 10:19:14 AM
And the one kill on Amsoil was probably a collision or auger on Amsoil's part.

Trebor was in a wirlie and whacked Amsiols panzer.  Was either confused as to who was who or it was an experiment to see if GV hit % went higher with wirlie rounds.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: doc1kelley on November 18, 2008, 10:28:09 AM
Put in DR7 and bring up Sherman :rofl

Looks like a Rook & Knight roll call :aok

You're barking up the wrong tree here with DR7!  I've fought against him for ages and with him alongside his tank with mine and I can attest that he's got a dead on aim as he's just that darned good!  We shoot at the same target and he just puts the round just where it needs to go and mine fall just a few feet short.  He has been Tanking for years and knows how to judge the distance.  His name just don't fit in this topic.

All the Best...

    Jay
 awDoc1
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: SHawk on November 18, 2008, 10:33:58 AM
You're barking up the wrong tree here with DR7!  I've fought against him for ages and with him alongside his tank with mine and I can attest that he's got a dead on aim as he's just that darned good!  We shoot at the same target and he just puts the round just where it needs to go and mine fall just a few feet short.  He has been Tanking for years and knows how to judge the distance.  His name just don't fit in this topic.

All the Best...

    Jay
 awDoc1

Jay I don't think he was accusing Dr7 of anything except being a KILLER!!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bruv119 on November 18, 2008, 10:34:55 AM
After spending a few nights away i'm surprised to come back and read this,

Trebor was amsoil's "brothers account" and it's obvious that he has used it to get the overall number one rank.

Now lets not pretend this hasn't been done before by certain reformed members of the community but I would suggest HTC remove his stats for tour 105 and acknowledge the players that rightfully deserve a mention.

The Few do not condone any sort of shade account killing and Ams will get whats coming to him.

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Nwbie on November 18, 2008, 10:35:21 AM
You're barking up the wrong tree here with DR7!  I've fought against him for ages and with him alongside his tank with mine and I can attest that he's got a dead on aim as he's just that darned good!  We shoot at the same target and he just puts the round just where it needs to go and mine fall just a few feet short.  He has been Tanking for years and knows how to judge the distance.  His name just don't fit in this topic.

All the Best...

    Jay
 awDoc1

Agree

looked at the stats - Dave74 is high - but if you continue through looking at his stats - he seems to be everyones victim ( wonder why i never run into him-i need someone worse than me) - be careful in your witch hunt, some players - especially gv'rs have dopes like me continue to up when being spawn camped. which is a perfectly sound explanation to the high gv score - Dr7 is one of the regular spawn campers in this game.

my 2 cents
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: LYNX on November 18, 2008, 10:37:26 AM
You're barking up the wrong tree here with DR7!  I've fought against him for ages and with him alongside his tank with mine and I can attest that he's got a dead on aim as he's just that darned good!  We shoot at the same target and he just puts the round just where it needs to go and mine fall just a few feet short.  He has been Tanking for years and knows how to judge the distance.  His name just don't fit in this topic

All the Best...

    Jay
 awDoc1

I think you'll find DR7's named here as a good GV'er...hence "roll call".  Meaning he's shooting everyone.  At least that's how I read it but your right
Quote
His name just don't fit in this topic
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: SHawk on November 18, 2008, 10:37:45 AM
After spending a few nights away i'm surprised to come back and read this,

Trebor was amsoil's "brothers account" and it's obvious that he has used it to get the overall number one rank.

Now lets not pretend this hasn't been done before by certain reformed members of the community but I would suggest HTC remove his stats for tour 105 and acknowledge the players that rightfully deserve a mention.

The Few do not condone any sort of shade account killing and Ams will get whats coming to him.



Agreed! I've always had much respect for the Few, It's a shame some peeps have to put a mark on their credibility.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: LYNX on November 18, 2008, 11:06:19 AM
Anymore for the

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/knot-hangmans-noose-black-backdrop-.jpg)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 18, 2008, 11:07:47 AM
Agreed! I've always had much respect for the Few, It's a shame some peeps have to put a mark on their credibility.

Sad thing is, AM is a good enough pilot that he didn't need to lower himself to that level.

It's like SHawk also said.

Quote from: SHawk
And to think I was actually telling this guy how to work on his attack rank (which was keeping him from #1)

All you have to do to be nuber one is game the game, not kill a shade.


wrongway
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: doc1kelley on November 18, 2008, 11:12:01 AM
I think you'll find DR7's named here as a good GV'er...hence "roll call".  Meaning he's shooting everyone.  At least that's how I read it but your right

You are quite right after re-reading the post.  It was my mistake as I made the assumption that DR7 was being lumped into the topic.  Shows what happens when you just skim the post instead of really reading it close as I clearly missed it's intended meaning of the "Roll Call" part.  

All the Best...

    Jay
 awDoc1
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BaldEagl on November 18, 2008, 11:17:45 AM
All you have to do to be nuber one is game the game, not kill a shade.

You don't have to "game the game" to get high rank.  All you have to do is play the whole game.

Killing a shade is gaming the game.

There's a big difference.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: CAP1 on November 18, 2008, 11:21:54 AM
wow!!!!


11 pages of people that don't care about score, caring about score!!!!


 :noid :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 11:23:19 AM
I might be mean, ugly, nasty, sweaty, perverted and rude but I have always played this game the legit way (mostly cause I'm too lazy to make a shade and I couldn't figure out a way to cheat).. But I have never killed shades or cheated.

I suppose we required some downsizing so that we can be the FEW again  :lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 11:24:09 AM
wow!!!!


11 pages of people that don't care about score, caring about score!!!!


 :noid :noid

It's not caring about score.. It's about people who try to cheat and, the thrill of the witch hunt. I'm not even active and I find all of this rather entertaining.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Stang on November 18, 2008, 11:30:37 AM
Witchhuntz iz fun yo!

 :rock
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 11:32:06 AM
Witchhuntz iz fun yo!

 :rock

hellz mufuggin yayo


even if one of the witches happen to be in ur squad
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: CAP1 on November 18, 2008, 11:32:19 AM
It's not caring about score.. It's about people who try to cheat and, the thrill of the witch hunt. I'm not even active and I find all of this rather entertaining.

i know.....was tryin to be a wisearse   :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: shreck on November 18, 2008, 11:42:44 AM
L O L ! again I say if someone wants to pay for multiple accounts and shoot the crap out of himself, Why should ANY of the "score doesn't matter crowd", (which seems to be a large segment of this thread) have the slightest concern!!
 either score matters to you, or it doesn't!!  This whole thread is very  :cry and----> :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Shifty on November 18, 2008, 11:54:36 AM
L O L ! again I say if someone wants to pay for multiple accounts and shoot the crap out of himself, Why should ANY of the "score doesn't matter crowd", (which seems to be a large segment of this thread) have the slightest concern!!
 either score matters to you, or it doesn't!!  This whole thread is very  :cry and----> :rofl

Seems to me both the score matters and the score doesn't matter crowds should be equally critical of people that practice this kind of behavior.
Integrity does matter, be it in real life or how you conduct yourself in a game. This is pretty much the AH equivalent of forgery or passing a bad check. When you hear the old timers missing the good old days, actions like this are one of the reasons why. It's the tardlettes doing this crap you should spend your criticism on.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: waystin2 on November 18, 2008, 12:17:21 PM
Seems to me both the score matters and the score doesn't matter crowds should be equally critical of people that practice this kind of behavior.
Integrity does matter, be it in real life or how you conduct yourself in a game.

I absolutely agree.   :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Getback on November 18, 2008, 12:17:36 PM
Seems to me both the score matters and the score doesn't matter crowds should be equally critical of people that practice this kind of behavior.
Integrity does matter, be it in real life or how you conduct yourself in a game. This is pretty much the AH equivalent of forgery or passing a bad check. When you hear the old timers missing the good old days, actions like this are one of the reasons why. It's the tardlettes doing this crap you should spend your criticism on.
Bravo Shifty!

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 18, 2008, 12:19:50 PM
So when do we get to tar and feather these tools?


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Shuffler on November 18, 2008, 12:28:50 PM
L O L ! again I say if someone wants to pay for multiple accounts and shoot the crap out of himself, Why should ANY of the "score doesn't matter crowd", (which seems to be a large segment of this thread) have the slightest concern!!
 either score matters to you, or it doesn't!!  This whole thread is very  :cry and----> :rofl

Doesn't have to matter about score...... All that matters is a person felt he had to do this to be someone. We should all point out that type of individual lest we will have all the new folks thinking it's ok. Also helps in regard to the squad he may be a member of knowing what type person has infiltrated their checks & balances. There are all types of Squads out there and most do not want someone like that on their rolls.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: clerick on November 18, 2008, 12:30:56 PM
At least now, with this tool, the tard that accused me of padding my score (ME of all people) can see that just isn't the case.

Just a suggestion, place a column for "Kills stealded by SHawk"    :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: iTunes on November 18, 2008, 12:33:21 PM
"The Few" have always come over as a really nice bunch of guys and I feel sorry for them over this, not their fault, he could have joined any squad at anytime. I betcha Trebor isn't the only guy to have shaded his way up the AH food chain.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: stickpig on November 18, 2008, 01:02:21 PM
Witch! Witch! Witch!   
"How do you know she's a witch"? 
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: clerick on November 18, 2008, 01:07:49 PM
Witch! Witch! Witch!   
"How do you know she's a witch"? 

She looks like one!

(http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictures/grail/large/HolyGrail027.jpg)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Guppy35 on November 18, 2008, 01:29:40 PM
L O L ! again I say if someone wants to pay for multiple accounts and shoot the crap out of himself, Why should ANY of the "score doesn't matter crowd", (which seems to be a large segment of this thread) have the slightest concern!!
 either score matters to you, or it doesn't!!  This whole thread is very  :cry and----> :rofl

Probably some truth in this Shreck.  I guess it comes down to the fact that folks, rightly or wrongly, have expectations of people in the 'community'.  I don't know that having a level of expectation of people is a bad thing however.  If we as a group condone 'anything goes' in the game as long as you can get away with it, we don't have much hope for the game or the people in it.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: mtnman on November 18, 2008, 02:04:40 PM
Probably some truth in this Shreck.  I guess it comes down to the fact that folks, rightly or wrongly, have expectations of people in the 'community'.  I don't know that having a level of expectation of people is a bad thing however.  If we as a group condone 'anything goes' in the game as long as you can get away with it, we don't have much hope for the game or the people in it.

As social animals, I don't think we really have any way to interact with each other and not have it become a "community" of sorts.  Even if it's a simple us/them mentality, it's still a loose "community" with some pretty basic implied expectations of its members.  I don't even know if it's possible for a "normal" person to not have those basic expectations of others.  Without a "community" it's doubtful humans could survive/prosper.

Any "community" needs to have some basic rules or laws regarding acceptable behavior, social norms, etc...  Those that follow the basic rules are "accepted" and those that don't are outcast.  When you violate the community's "rules", you become an outcast.  Lying, cheating, stealing, etc from other community members aren't good ways to remain a valued member of a community.

Those being named on this thread willingly, knowingly violated the "social expectations" of this "community".  They may not have broken any laws or rules, but they knew what they were doing would be considered shameful by the vast majority of the community.  They did it anyway.  It was done to benefit themselves, at the expense of their "friends".

In a sense, they volunteered/demanded to be singled out.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BMathis on November 18, 2008, 02:37:15 PM
So when do we get to tar and feather these tools?


ack-ack
Funny. I've been catching up on 7 pages of new posts here, and not one of them are from the People(s) being called out, not even Banshee7.

I bet tons of new names will be rolling around the arenas now.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: mechanic on November 18, 2008, 02:41:50 PM
She looks like one!

(http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictures/grail/large/HolyGrail027.jpg)

she turned me into a newt.

a newt??

.....I got better.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RTHolmes on November 18, 2008, 02:43:27 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 02:43:48 PM
See Rules #4, #5, #7
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: iTunes on November 18, 2008, 02:48:10 PM
See Rules #4, #5, #7


 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 18, 2008, 02:53:39 PM
See Rules #4, #5, #7

And previously to that he said he did to make people cry, which is probably the excuse 1HungLo instructed his squad mates to use.

When 1Hunglo was caught in the MW vulching Sally for perk points, he used the same excuse and then changed it to "it's my kid's fault, he blew all my perks" as his excuse.  Sad, blaming his kid for his own character short comings.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: turtle212 on November 18, 2008, 03:01:09 PM
check my score. I got him beat sorties /kill
                SKTurt
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BMathis on November 18, 2008, 03:05:33 PM
See Rules #4, #5, #7
Ahh, didn't see that. I was skimming, just looking for the witches.

How do you get coerced into vulching a shade account? Maybe BiP has a few ideas, as his name befits.  ;)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Larry on November 18, 2008, 03:32:29 PM
And previously to that he said he did to make people cry, which is probably the excuse 1HungLo instructed his squad mates to use.

When 1Hunglo was caught in the MW vulching Sally for perk points, he used the same excuse and then changed it to "it's my kid's fault, he blew all my perks" as his excuse.  Sad, blaming his kid for his own character short comings.


ack-ack


Even more sad is making up a kid to blame stuff on. I doubt there is someone stupid enough on this earth to mate with him.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Banshee7 on November 18, 2008, 03:36:57 PM
Ahh, didn't see that. I was skimming, just looking for the witches.

How do you get coerced into vulching a shade account? Maybe BiP has a few ideas, as his name befits.  ;)

Ok.  Was flying around with 1HungLo in a boring arena and there were some guys talking about score on 200 (which i highly disagree with--i think score should be taken out of the game completely) so he PMed asking me if i wanted to go cry-farming.  I simply PMed back "What's that?"  His reply was "Up a P-40E or P-39D at base so and so and fly to the vehicle spawn."  I did and as soon as i came into a view of a FLAK i started getting proxies.  So I got to asking him about WTF he was doing.  He simply replied as "I'm gonna give you x amount of kills and you land them to see how many cries we can get from people.  His original number was about 60 kills and i said no way.  I stopped at 31 and landed (Of those 31 about 25 of them were proxies..i shot at him about 6 times and got a measely 9 perks out of it).  And not 5 minutes later i deleted my account because i KNEW what was going to come of it after i was done.  Got to Texting MstWntd (SpikesX) about it later that day and he wanted me to come back...so i came back with a new name.  I even left Wings of Terror to save them the trouble of having even more comments about them being a "Scorepotato" squad.  Now I'm done explaining my simple teenage stupidity.

#S#  OutCast (Banshee7)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Banshee7 on November 18, 2008, 03:39:37 PM
See Rules #4, #5, #7

Not saying it was no fault of my own, i take full blame for it.  I should have been the one to say NO when all the time I'm downing the people that do this type of thing.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: uptown on November 18, 2008, 03:45:06 PM
 :rofl that's classic
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 18, 2008, 03:53:22 PM
Ok.  Was flying around with 1HungLo in a boring arena and there were some guys talking about score on 200 (which i highly disagree with--i think score should be taken out of the game completely) so he PMed asking me if i wanted to go cry-farming.  I simply PMed back "What's that?"  His reply was "Up a P-40E or P-39D at base so and so and fly to the vehicle spawn."  I did and as soon as i came into a view of a FLAK i started getting proxies.  So I got to asking him about WTF he was doing.  He simply replied as "I'm gonna give you x amount of kills and you land them to see how many cries we can get from people.  His original number was about 60 kills and i said no way.  I stopped at 31 and landed (Of those 31 about 25 of them were proxies..i shot at him about 6 times and got a measely 9 perks out of it).  And not 5 minutes later i deleted my account because i KNEW what was going to come of it after i was done.  Got to Texting MstWntd (SpikesX) about it later that day and he wanted me to come back...so i came back with a new name.  I even left Wings of Terror to save them the trouble of having even more comments about them being a "Scorepotato" squad.  Now I'm done explaining my simple teenage stupidity.

#S#  OutCast (Banshee7)

You are now admitting you did this, not to mention 1hunglo is now under the HTC bus.   Why'd you even agree to do that?    Nothing like climbing a mountain to shake off "a reputation".   Shake off said "Reputation", only to piss it away and get a "new reputation".   

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Shifty on November 18, 2008, 03:53:40 PM
Not saying it was no fault of my own, i take full blame for it.  I should have been the one to say NO when all the time I'm downing the people that do this type of thing.

Well at least you have the stones admit to it and take responsability, and understand it was pure dweebery. The fact you left your game ID and squad over it says you're in touch with right and wrong. You were man enough to show your face and be truthful. Not that you have to please me or anyone else in the community or ask forgivness. At least you were honest with yourself. That's a step we'll likely not see some of the others take. Seems you manned up, to me at least.

<S>
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 03:56:26 PM
I bet it was just to create a backstory to his new name OutCast  :noid :noid :noid  :lol
nah, on a serious note we need to find more shadekillers to flame. I think our current finds have been bagged n tagged already. Next!!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: iTunes on November 18, 2008, 03:56:48 PM
Not saying it was no fault of my own, i take full blame for it.  I should have been the one to say NO when all the time I'm downing the people that do this type of thing.
And <S> from me and also throw in a "time to move on" too, You had the Kohanas to come on here and put your hand up.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Banshee7 on November 18, 2008, 04:01:40 PM
I bet it was just to create a backstory to his new name OutCast  :noid :noid :noid  :lol
nah, on a serious note we need to find more shadekillers to flame. I think our current finds have been bagged n tagged already. Next!!

Actually...I've been looking to change names for quite some time now and this gave me an opportunity.  Something I can look back at and laugh saying "What an idiot!"


EDIT:  And...I'm currently on the Free Agent list for squads  :D  AND.....I'm back as Banshee7
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: A8TOOL on November 18, 2008, 04:31:07 PM
L O L ! again I say if someone wants to pay for multiple accounts and shoot the crap out of himself, Why should ANY of the "score doesn't matter crowd", (which seems to be a large segment of this thread) have the slightest concern!!
You don't need to pay for another account to vulch yourself with....  Two week accounts or someone else's credit card # that you know won't be charged work just fine for people willing to cheat to get ahead in this game

Probably some truth in this Shreck.  I guess it comes down to the fact that folks, rightly or wrongly, have expectations of people in the 'community'.  I don't know that having a level of expectation of people is a bad thing however.  If we as a group condone 'anything goes' in the game as long as you can get away with it, we don't have much hope for the game or the people in it.


 There are 3 groups of people.... on a much larger scale, when it comes to deciding what's right from wrong. Even though this is just a game, all three can be found.

The guy who does not care and won't be bothered or is willing to support wrong doing because of special interest to friends, business, directly involved or for financial gain.

The guy who does in fact care but is just to lazy, not having the courage to speak up and be heard finding it much easier to just go with the flow. Normally this group is confused, uneducated and easily manipulated by main stream majorities. Sadly this is our countries largest group.

And the guy who is not easily swayed, having a higher set of morals, educated or not, willing to speak up and fight for what is right even at the risk of ridicule and ostracization. Unfortunately this is our smallest group.


I don't accept, condone or support any type of cheating and am fairly outspoken on the matter uncaring of what people think of me.


The new scoring utility may help curb two week vulchers and MW perk farmers that have become prevalent in our arenas since last summers squeaker invasion. I think it's a great idea.

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: pluck on November 18, 2008, 04:52:51 PM
#1  Witch hunts are awesome

#2  I don't care about score myself.  I do care about scores as it relates to gameplay and how it influences others in the way they play the game.

#3  If you are going to trouble yourself by putting up names of the point guys, might as well have some form of validation.

I think everyone has heard that "if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at?"  Well here is an example of people we can all laugh at, even those who can't laugh at themselves!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 18, 2008, 04:56:21 PM
#1  Witch hunts are awesome

#2  I don't care about score myself.  I do care about scores as it relates to gameplay and how it influences others in the way they play the game.

#3  If you are going to trouble yourself by putting up names of the point guys, might as well have some form of validation.

I think everyone has heard that "if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at?"  Well here is an example of people we can all laugh at, even those who can't laugh at themselves!
Spot on.  :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Spikes on November 18, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
Ok.  Was flying around with 1HungLo in a boring arena and there were some guys talking about score on 200 (which i highly disagree with--i think score should be taken out of the game completely) so he PMed asking me if i wanted to go cry-farming.  I simply PMed back "What's that?"  His reply was "Up a P-40E or P-39D at base so and so and fly to the vehicle spawn."  I did and as soon as i came into a view of a FLAK i started getting proxies.  So I got to asking him about WTF he was doing.  He simply replied as "I'm gonna give you x amount of kills and you land them to see how many cries we can get from people.  His original number was about 60 kills and i said no way.  I stopped at 31 and landed (Of those 31 about 25 of them were proxies..i shot at him about 6 times and got a measely 9 perks out of it).  And not 5 minutes later i deleted my account because i KNEW what was going to come of it after i was done.  Got to Texting MstWntd (SpikesX) about it later that day and he wanted me to come back...so i came back with a new name.  I even left Wings of Terror to save them the trouble of having even more comments about them being a "Scorepotato" squad.  Now I'm done explaining my simple teenage stupidity.

#S#  OutCast (Banshee7)
Long as the community knows it was for fun and not hardcore score horing it's fine, give it 2 weeks and everything'll be back to the norm.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: TwentyFo on November 18, 2008, 05:04:11 PM
Check the percentage of kills on one of the other 'The Few' squaddies  :noid

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 18, 2008, 05:08:41 PM
Check the percentage of kills on one of the other 'The Few' squaddies  :noid

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21)
LOL no ax to grind there Mr 54 deaths.  :rofl :rofl :rofl

Edit:  Mr 56 deaths. :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: TwentyFo on November 18, 2008, 05:12:28 PM
LOL no ax to grind there Mr 54 deaths.  :rofl :rofl :rofl

We arranged him killing me that many times because the tour was almost over and they needed to get their squad rank up.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 05:12:58 PM
Check the percentage of kills on one of the other 'The Few' squaddies  :noid

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21)

lol I gotta love that optimism.. "He has killed my lvt 53 times but this time I think I will make it!!!!!"
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: TwentyFo on November 18, 2008, 05:23:02 PM
lol I gotta love that optimism.. "He has killed my lvt 53 times but this time I think I will make it!!!!!"

We arranged him killing me that many times because the tour was almost over and they needed to get their squad rank up.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: NoBaddy on November 18, 2008, 05:24:45 PM
Players that enable others to do this should suffer the same fate as those doing it. It's all just sad.  :frown:

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 18, 2008, 05:25:32 PM
We arranged him killing me that many times because the tour was almost over and they needed to get their squad rank up.


What?    :huh
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 18, 2008, 05:27:00 PM
We arranged him killing me that many times because the tour was almost over and they needed to get their squad rank up.
Your first response was much funnier.. should have stuck with it.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 05:28:45 PM
We arranged him killing me that many times because the tour was almost over and they needed to get their squad rank up.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21)

what sort of payment was involved, and when can we set a date for me. I'd like to be rank no.1 when I return.   :angel:
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BMathis on November 18, 2008, 05:33:30 PM
We arranged him killing me that many times because the tour was almost over and they needed to get their squad rank up.
Lol seriously??? I didn't realize that squads vulch the 'willing' to get a higher squad rank.... That's a bad as vulching a shade imo.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 05:36:49 PM
Lol, I didn't realize that squads vulch the 'willing' to get a higher squad rank.... That's a bad as vulching a shade imo.  :rolleyes:

personal score goes into the squad score. As likely it is that tr0jan paid twentyfo 1 cheeseburger per kill I don't actually think it happened.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: TwentyFo on November 18, 2008, 05:36:55 PM
Your first response was much funnier.. should have stuck with it.

I meant to say that I think they hacked my account  :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: A8TOOL on November 18, 2008, 05:46:48 PM
I haven't decided which is worse, a cheater or snitch.... Bottom line is having a "shade account" is allowed.  No, I don't think its right but I've been around long enough and have had my tail kicked enough to know who the good sticks are regardless of what their score may imply.

 :salute

A8Grind


When it's concerning your own squad and it's reputation the cheater is worse of course. What makes you think it's ok to not say anything at all Grind?

The whistle blower  should get top priority attention from all of it's members especially the CO, if they really ever did care about the squads reputation to begin with. I firmly believe if it's just one guy causing the problems whether XO or not, he should be dealt with immediately and set straight or let go so as not to further spread that type of behavior... unless of course you come from a different type of squad.

 IMO There should always be someone there to stand up and fight for whats right unless of course no one cares. Then just boot the guy who's putting up the big stink and let him find a different squad that meets his standards of fair game play.

I'm sure this new scoring utility tool will have many of the more honorable squads sending remind notices to it's members. With the exception of the one, the Aces & 8's are and will continue to be an honorable squad, they just made a mistake. For some it's to late and for others it's just in time. I doubt it will completely stop 2nd acct. vulchers or perk farmers but at least we will know who is who.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Kazaa on November 18, 2008, 06:01:13 PM
lol I gotta love that optimism.. "He has killed my lvt 53 times but this time I think I will make it!!!!!"

TwentyFo, the little LvT that couldn't.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Dragon on November 18, 2008, 06:02:56 PM
I meant to say that I think they hacked my account  :noid

BS
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Stang on November 18, 2008, 06:07:11 PM
Stop hijacking!  The shades are out there renaming themselves and gaining strength!  FIND THEM!!!!


 :noid :noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Banshee7 on November 18, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
Stop hijacking!  The shades are out there renaming themselves and gaining strength!  FIND THEM!!!!


 :noid :noid :noid :noid

<---Banshee7....again  :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: TwentyFo on November 18, 2008, 06:19:08 PM
<---Banshee7....again  :D

<----I'm Banshee7
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 18, 2008, 06:21:19 PM
I meant to say that I think they hacked my account  :noid

 :huh We didnt arrage nothing, i killed a few of ure LVT's and u was just upping then getting hit by ack on field and i was picking up the proxys.. hows that arranged?  :lol noob
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 18, 2008, 06:34:38 PM
Gotta love a good witchhunt.  Where's my pitchfork and torch?  Find 'em all, string 'em up!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: A8TOOL on November 18, 2008, 06:36:40 PM
Here's one.  tour 105  50 kills in a C47

Don't know who he is and don't know why I had him in memory on my score page but it's ColClark smegma2
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: TwentyFo on November 18, 2008, 06:37:25 PM
:huh We didnt arrage nothing, i killed a few of ure LVT's and u was just upping then getting hit by ack on field and i was picking up the proxys.. hows that arranged?  :lol noob

Totally false, quit lying. You and I know what happened. We arranged for you to land 60+ kills in a typhoon. I would up an LVT, you would get really close, and then I would tower giving you the kill. We talked about this before hand. You guys needed the boost for your rank and your squad's rank.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Rollins on November 18, 2008, 06:41:55 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damage_control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damage_control)

 :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 18, 2008, 06:45:25 PM
A8Nisky is well known as a 2nd account killer, A8Tools shed light on him some time ago.

He is? He's usually pretty straight up and legit when it comes to kills. I've DA'd him quite a few times... *shrugs*



<<---1pLUs44... wait... NO! I'm actually 40thPlus :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 06:54:51 PM
Totally false, quit lying. You and I know what happened. We arranged for you to land 60+ kills in a typhoon. I would up an LVT, you would get really close, and then I would tower giving you the kill. We talked about this before hand. You guys needed the boost for your rank and your squad's rank.


yawn, the joke stops being funny when people actually believe it.. obv the few didn't need squad rank boost as amsoil was playing...
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 18, 2008, 06:55:23 PM
Totally false, quit lying. You and I know what happened. We arranged for you to land 60+ kills in a typhoon. I would up an LVT, you would get really close, and then I would tower giving you the kill. We talked about this before hand. You guys needed the boost for your rank and your squad's rank.




 :lol u crack me up,


60+? your lies have just broken, i didnt land 60+  :lol


Get your facts straight fool
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 18, 2008, 06:57:50 PM


 :lol u crack me up,


60+? your lies have just broken, i didnt land 60+  :lol


Get your facts straight fool

I believe he was saying the plan was for you to land 60+.  What, you missed it by like three right?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 18, 2008, 06:59:08 PM
lol I gotta love that optimism.. "He has killed my lvt 53 times but this time I think I will make it!!!!!"

Gota love that post!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 18, 2008, 07:00:39 PM
And how come you took the link out of your signature of the screenshot of your 57 victories in a typhoon?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 18, 2008, 07:00:44 PM
I believe he was saying the plan was for you to land 60+.  What, you missed it by like three right?


After ack pounding him and giving me proxys.. think i landed 57 in total, so yea 3

(7 where legit kills on him :lol)

Legit = Used bullets till he poped
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: mechanic on November 18, 2008, 07:00:56 PM
you are both chumps
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 18, 2008, 07:02:01 PM
And how come you took the link out of your signature of the screenshot of your 57 victories in a typhoon?

Took it out about 3 or 4 days ago.. got bored and changed things around abit
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 18, 2008, 07:02:42 PM
Totally false, quit lying. You and I know what happened. We arranged for you to land 60+ kills in a typhoon. I would up an LVT, you would get really close, and then I would tower giving you the kill. We talked about this before hand. You guys needed the boost for your rank and your squad's rank.


You see, if you were REALLY in it with him, you wouldn't mention this, because you're just as guilty as him, if he did do it.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 18, 2008, 07:04:18 PM
Heres the SS if u missed it :P

(http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1893/65949874xh3.png)

I got nothing to hide, Skuzzy/Hitech can check if they like :P
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 07:05:23 PM
And how come you took the link out of your signature of the screenshot of your 57 victories in a typhoon?

It's obvious twentyfo is bsing/yankin peoples chains... give it up.

(we hacked his account we didn't arrange anything!  :noid  :uhoh)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 18, 2008, 07:06:30 PM
It's obvious twentyfo is bsing/yankin peoples chains... give it up.

(we hacked his account we didn't arrange anything!  :noid  :uhoh)

Just asked a question...
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 18, 2008, 07:09:06 PM
Maybe HTC should think about not awarding proxy kills, to prevent these types of accusations later on?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 07:11:32 PM
Just asked a question...

Yea it's just a question with a motive behind it. DIsabling proxy kills isn't gonna change anything is it. People will just shoot kill their shades.

as for the accusation, it's just ridiculous and an obvious pisstake.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Lusche on November 18, 2008, 07:13:27 PM
Maybe HTC should think about not awarding proxy kills, to prevent these types of accusations later on?

As many (if not most) shade killers are doing it for perks, it wouldn't change much - proxy kills don't give you any.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 18, 2008, 07:13:38 PM
No motive.....what do I have to gain?  As for the proxies, do you think that people would be making such a big deal about Ginger's victories if was only 7, as that's how many he said he actually shot down?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Phanza on November 18, 2008, 07:14:49 PM
Totally false, quit lying. You and I know what happened. We arranged for you to land 60+ kills in a typhoon. I would up an LVT, you would get really close, and then I would tower giving you the kill. We talked about this before hand. You guys needed the boost for your rank and your squad's rank.

I've been a member of The Few for 5-6 months now, and I can assure you that we're not a squad that gives a hoot about the squad standings. I think we had a squad #1 back in June or July, and there was no fuzz or anything special on the Squad Forum, other than a brief whooptydoo. Actually I recall Bruv posting, that he liked the accomplishment, considering we didn't try to go for it. This can be backed up by alot of ppl, that have access to our forum. Some of us go for personal ranking, and alot don't. We don't work in anyway to improve the overall squad ranking.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 18, 2008, 07:15:21 PM
As many (if not most) shade killers are doing it for perks, it wouldn't change much - proxy kills don't give you any.

I'm talking about falsely accusing someone, we have the new scorer's page now to see who's perk farming.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 18, 2008, 07:16:44 PM
I'm talking about falsely accusing someone, we have the new scorer's page now to see who's perk farming.

Id like to say get rid of Proxys myself.. nothing worse than bailing out of an undamaged plane with no gas than giving some noob ure proxy just because hes some what close to you..
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Lusche on November 18, 2008, 07:19:37 PM
Id like to say get rid of Proxys myself.. nothing worse than bailing out of an undamaged plane with no gas than giving some noob ure proxy just because hes some what close to you..

If you're out of gas you lost your fight.

Also players will start to bail in droves just to prevent the other player getting the kill when they feel like getting shot down anyway.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: TwentyFo on November 18, 2008, 07:19:56 PM
You see, if you were REALLY in it with him, you wouldn't mention this, because you're just as guilty as him, if he did do it.

I realized what I did was wrong. I just hope Ginger will come to that realization too. I got yelled at by my CO for it. I'm just trying to make it right and get everything out there on the table. Thing is, I enjoy this game and I apologize to the community for jeopardizing the integrity of this game and my squad. <S>
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Tr0jan on November 18, 2008, 07:23:48 PM
I realized what I did was wrong. I just hope Ginger will come to that realization too. I got yelled at by my CO for it. I'm just trying to make it right and get everything out there on the table. Thing is, I enjoy this game and I apologize to the community for jeopardizing the integrity of this game and my squad. <S>

Your brown nosing post...
(http://www.ondmis.dk/billeder/forumpics/pplwhocares.jpg)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: PFactorDave on November 18, 2008, 07:24:58 PM

Also players will start to bail in droves just to prevent the other player getting the kill when they feel like getting shot down anyway.

Precisely.

Plus, there has actually been occaisions where one pilot flew another into the ground without ever actually pinging him.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 18, 2008, 07:41:08 PM
Id like to say get rid of Proxys myself.. nothing worse than bailing out of an undamaged plane with no gas than giving some noob ure proxy just because hes some what close to you..
Yes but... there is nothing better than flying you opponent into the ground.....when guns are dry. :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: stickpig on November 18, 2008, 08:26:29 PM
she turned me into a newt.

a newt??

.....I got better.

Burn her anyway!
    Burn!  Burn her!
   Quiet, quiet.  Quiet!  There are ways of telling whether
      she is a witch.
   Are there?  What are they?
   Tell me, what do you do with witches?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 08:56:47 PM
Id like to say get rid of Proxys myself.. nothing worse than bailing out of an undamaged plane with no gas than giving some noob ure proxy just because hes some what close to you..

you're gonna have newblets who lose the edge in a tnb against you and know they're toast just fly straight into the dirt before you get to open up on them. reward for blowing your load? 0. unfair.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Banshee7 on November 18, 2008, 09:40:47 PM
I've been a member of The Few for 5-6 months now, and I can assure you that we're not a squad that gives a hoot about the squad standings. I think we had a squad #1 back in June or July, and there was no fuzz or anything special on the Squad Forum, other than a brief whooptydoo. Actually I recall Bruv posting, that he liked the accomplishment, considering we didn't try to go for it. This can be backed up by alot of ppl, that have access to our forum. Some of us go for personal ranking, and alot don't. We don't work in anyway to improve the overall squad ranking.

im throwing a BS flag on this one
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 09:42:56 PM
im throwing a BS flag on this one

I don't care about my score. I've been with the few for 3.5 years.

BS flag removed. Amsoil is not a few member.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Newman5 on November 18, 2008, 09:44:41 PM

BS flag removed. Amsoil is not a few member.

Guess that means guilty as charged, huh?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Banshee7 on November 18, 2008, 09:52:26 PM
I don't care about my score. I've been with the few for 3.5 years.

BS flag removed. Amsoil is not a few member.

picks up yellow flag and waves it in the air "Penalty is waved off!"
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 10:00:57 PM
Guess that means guilty as charged, huh?

Yes, he's been expelled from the squad.
If he had manned up like banshee, maybe...  still.. big difference killing 30 one tour in ew/mw whatever.. to shadekilling 3 diff tours adding up a tally of like 350 total shadekills spread across the categories.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Getback on November 18, 2008, 10:12:23 PM
Id like to say get rid of Proxys myself.. nothing worse than bailing out of an undamaged plane with no gas than giving some noob ure proxy just because hes some what close to you..

If you did then you it would turn into something like AW where people augered when odds didn't look good.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 18, 2008, 10:14:52 PM
If you did then you it would turn into something like AW where people augered when odds didn't look good.

Too many cared about their scores for each campaign to auger like that. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Lusche on November 18, 2008, 10:19:54 PM
Too many cared about their scores for each campaign to auger like that. 

I don't think so. They would bail each time they think they are getting killed anyway... just to "deny" the kill to their enemy. Dead is dead for score purposes anyway.

Actually I think the vast majority of AH players isn't that much inerested in score anyway - otherwise HO wouldn't be the standard MA ACM, and Lancstukas & suicide porkers be be the exception rather than the norm ;)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Getback on November 18, 2008, 10:20:32 PM
Too many cared about their scores for each campaign to auger like that. 


ack-ack

I saw it ack-ack.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BaldEagl on November 18, 2008, 11:23:02 PM
I assure you none of the squad knew he had done this..

Pot, meet kettle.  You guys really are "The Few".

Check the percentage of kills on one of the other 'The Few' squaddies  :noid

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Ginger44&kcnt=95&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=21)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: LYNX on November 18, 2008, 11:34:20 PM
Pot, meet kettle.  You guys really are "The Few".


Did you bother to read the following posts?  I think you'll find it's a bad joke by TwentyFo who suicided port ack in a LVT4.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 18, 2008, 11:35:58 PM
Pot, meet kettle.  You guys really are "The Few".


 :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh
try reading some posts... also shouldn't the giveaway of TwentyFo being the guy dying and posting the link be enough?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: NoBaddy on November 19, 2008, 12:06:28 AM
Funny, there was a thread not long ago asking what the definition of "dweeb" was....

Frankly, there are a number of them posting about their antics in this thread.....sad really.  :frown:

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 19, 2008, 12:13:18 AM
I don't think so. They would bail each time they think they are getting killed anyway... just to "deny" the kill to their enemy. Dead is dead for score purposes anyway.

Actually I think the vast majority of AH players isn't that much inerested in score anyway - otherwise HO wouldn't be the standard MA ACM, and Lancstukas & suicide porkers be be the exception rather than the norm ;)

Score was just as important to just as many players in AW as in AH.  You would never see guys like RAGS or C00RS auger like you mentioned for fear of not getting max points.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Guppy35 on November 19, 2008, 12:18:19 AM
Score was just as important to just as many players in AW as in AH.  You would never see guys like RAGS or C00RS auger like you mentioned for fear of not getting max points.


ack-ack

There was a certain squad back then that specialized in augering with style however, whose remnants have carried on the tradition for years now :)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Sox62 on November 19, 2008, 01:21:17 AM
I don't think so. They would bail each time they think they are getting killed anyway... just to "deny" the kill to their enemy. Dead is dead for score purposes anyway.

Krieg comes to mind.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Grind on November 19, 2008, 04:17:35 AM

When it's concerning your own squad and it's reputation the cheater is worse of course. What makes you think it's ok to not say anything at all Grind?

The whistle blower  should get top priority attention from all of it's members especially the CO, if they really ever did care about the squads reputation to begin with. I firmly believe if it's just one guy causing the problems whether XO or not, he should be dealt with immediately and set straight or let go so as not to further spread that type of behavior... unless of course you come from a different type of squad.

 IMO There should always be someone there to stand up and fight for whats right unless of course no one cares. Then just boot the guy who's putting up the big stink and let him find a different squad that meets his standards of fair game play.

I'm sure this new scoring utility tool will have many of the more honorable squads sending remind notices to it's members. With the exception of the one, the Aces & 8's are and will continue to be an honorable squad, they just made a mistake. For some it's to late and for others it's just in time. I doubt it will completely stop 2nd acct. vulchers or perk farmers but at least we will know who is who.


I would say something Tool. But it would be to the person in question.  If it continued, I would just bale on the squad.  I'm sure you've heard the phrase " If you don't like it, you can leave".  I learned a long time ago that big boys lie, cheat and steal.  It's a fact.  Look at pro sports, baseball, football, drag racing...big business.... government.... the list is endless.  Why not ask the same question to HTC?  They know those who have multiple accounts.  This crap has gone on here for years.  I have always felt that a certain amount of cheating has gone here (some people just can't help them selves). This is a business, and they gotta make money, they also have to pay their employees, taxes, expenses etc....  I want to make clear Im not dissing HTC, I don't blame them at all.   If I were them I would let anyone have as many accounts as they wanted.  If person wants to sit there and shoot themselves all night, so be it, have at it...please keep sending the check thank you very much.  But now that we have the new scoring utility guys like you Tool or should I call you SaintTool J/k :rofl can ferret them out, and in the process, help HTC by freeing up some resources to work on the game.   For the guys who just gotta be number one,  set up playoff.  Tool, how long has it been since you left the Aces and Eights? 2 or 3 months now?  If its any consolation, changes have been made within the squad and that's all I really feel comfortable in saying ("what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas").  You and the Aces and Eights, that horse has long been dead, why do you keep kicking it?


 :salute

A8Grind
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 19, 2008, 04:22:56 AM
Krieg comes to mind.

LOL! That's a name I haven't seen in awhile.  You're right, he would auger rather than get into a fight he couldn't run away from.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: lyric1 on November 19, 2008, 07:35:28 AM
Best thread I have got to read in a long time.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Shuffler on November 19, 2008, 09:53:11 AM
<<< I got 3 kills without firing a shot in LW last night. I was low in my 38j and these high typhies and ponies come in. They dove at me and I evaded. The three that died did so trying to kill me from their perches. The others left soon after. My guess is fear of trees.

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: bongaroo on November 19, 2008, 09:55:36 AM
<<< I got 3 kills without firing a shot in LW last night. I was low in my 38j and these high typhies and ponies come in. They dove at me and I evaded. The three that died did so trying to kill me from their perches. The others left soon after. My guess is fear of trees.



Perk the trees!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 19, 2008, 10:03:32 AM
Perk the trees!

I've fought trees hundreds of times.  They own me.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: bongaroo on November 19, 2008, 10:13:33 AM
I've fought trees hundreds of times.  They own me.

Indeed.  Have you seen their K/D ratio?!?!?!  It's absurd!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: FLOTSOM on November 19, 2008, 10:17:34 AM
i think the trees have hacked the game!!!!

THEY ARE CHEATING!

there is a conspiracy between them and the sheep i just know it!!!! :furious
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BMathis on November 19, 2008, 10:19:28 AM
I realized what I did was wrong. I just hope Ginger will come to that realization too. I got yelled at by my CO for it. I'm just trying to make it right and get everything out there on the table. Thing is, I enjoy this game and I apologize to the community for jeopardizing the integrity of this game and my squad. <S>
:aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Scca on November 19, 2008, 10:27:19 AM
I like the new tool but not for witch hunting, but for the other things it offers. 

I am thinking that if HTC wanted to, they could find the account vulchers and deal with them on their own.  I am a DBA, if the data is there, it could be done without leaving the player base to call it to their attention. 

Padding scores by repeatedly offing a shade is the weakest form of gaming the game there is.  I think HTC should not let this activity benefit a player.  If they want to do it, fine, it should just not count towards their perks or score.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 19, 2008, 11:19:34 AM
I don't think so. They would bail each time they think they are getting killed anyway... just to "deny" the kill to their enemy. Dead is dead for score purposes anyway.

Actually I think the vast majority of AH players isn't that much inerested in score anyway - otherwise HO wouldn't be the standard MA ACM, and Lancstukas & suicide porkers be be the exception rather than the norm ;)

But could you imagine the "Race" to see who could be #1 in bails per Tour?     :rock
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Bronk on November 19, 2008, 11:27:04 AM
I am thinking that if HTC wanted to, they could find the account vulchers and deal with them on their own.  I am a DBA, if the data is there, it could be done without leaving the player base to call it to their attention. 

It's called community policing.  Now, instead of unsubstantiated accusations,you have a little bit of evidence.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Stang on November 19, 2008, 11:53:52 AM
I like the new tool but not for witch hunting, but for the other things it offers. 

I am thinking that if HTC wanted to, they could find the account vulchers and deal with them on their own.  I am a DBA, if the data is there, it could be done without leaving the player base to call it to their attention. 

Padding scores by repeatedly offing a shade is the weakest form of gaming the game there is.  I think HTC should not let this activity benefit a player.  If they want to do it, fine, it should just not count towards their perks or score.
Self policing is the best way.

And witchunts FTW!!!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: llama on November 19, 2008, 03:16:41 PM
In any sport, the score becomes academic when it seems like the rules of fair play don't apply to one team.

The reason people said they didn't care about score in AH was because people knew the scoring system was wasn't fair, being thrown out of whack by imbeciles shooting shade accounts but with no one able to prove anything.

When a total unknown with poor Main Arena fighting skills (but only anecdotally) rises to #1 in the scores, you'd be a fool not to wonder if something was fundamentally wrong with the scoring rules.

In other words, folks had a good feeling the scores weren't reflective of actual real gameplay.

Now that the new scorig pages are in place, we know this for sure. Finally.

I predict caring about score will be cool once all the cheaters are brought to light, and the system in is place to keep everyone honest and the scores to at least be fair.

-Llama

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Curlew on November 19, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
I realized what I did was wrong. I just hope Ginger will come to that realization too. I got yelled at by my CO for it. I'm just trying to make it right and get everything out there on the table. Thing is, I enjoy this game and I apologize to the community for jeopardizing the integrity of this game and my squad. <S>

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I had totaly forgot about this, shame on you 24
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: yanksfan on November 19, 2008, 07:06:13 PM
i think the trees have hacked the game!!!!

THEY ARE CHEATING!

there is a conspiracy between them and the sheep i just know it!!!! :furious

This one knows too much!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: mechanic on November 19, 2008, 10:40:49 PM
In any sport, the score becomes academic when it seems like the rules of fair play don't apply to one team.

The reason people said they didn't care about score in AH was because people knew the scoring system was wasn't fair, being thrown out of whack by imbeciles shooting shade accounts but with no one able to prove anything.

When a total unknown with poor Main Arena fighting skills (but only anecdotally) rises to #1 in the scores, you'd be a fool not to wonder if something was fundamentally wrong with the scoring rules.

In other words, folks had a good feeling the scores weren't reflective of actual real gameplay.

Now that the new scorig pages are in place, we know this for sure. Finally.

I predict caring about score will be cool once all the cheaters are brought to light, and the system in is place to keep everyone honest and the scores to at least be fair.

-Llama




I would say even further we already can respect a 'good score' but as individuals we decide what that comprises of. Widewing got a huge kill streak to no deaths a while back, as an example, and it was celebrated mildy by friends here. We each define our own score card it's just that some people are not very creative at doing so.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: A8TOOL on November 20, 2008, 02:50:14 AM
I would say something Tool. But it would be to the person in question. AND I DID

    If person wants to sit there and shoot themselves all night, so be it, have at it...please keep sending the check thank you very much.
TWO WEEK ACCTS. 

But now that we have the new scoring utility guys like you Tool or should I call you SaintTool J/k :rofl can ferret them out, I was only concerned with my own squads reputation at the time.

 Tool, how long has it been since you left the Aces and Eights? I was booted by the CO for trying to get support on the subject and other things concerned with that member, our XO, to often.

 :salute

A8Grind

I did nothing wrong in my eyes and when you say things like "I haven't decided which is worse, a cheater or snitch.... Bottom line is having a "shade account" is allowed." I hope your not speaking for the whole squad.


It's best to just drop it Grind. I loved flying with the Aces  and helped bring them to the respect level they acquired long before you got there.... and took it personally.


Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Grind on November 20, 2008, 03:49:12 AM
I did nothing wrong in my eyes and when you say things like "I haven't decided which is worse, a cheater or snitch.... Bottom line is having a "shade account" is allowed." I hope your not speaking for the whole squad.


It's best to just drop it Grind. I loved flying with the Aces  and helped bring them to the respect level they acquired long before you got there.... and took it personally.




If your going to take the time to quote me, why do it out of context?  What is the first word of this sentence..... " I haven't decided which is worse, a cheater or snitch....Bottom line is having a "shade account" is allowed."? Obviously you took it personally and it is time to drop it, however when you drop in on the squad channel as a dear old friend and then get on this board spewing your holier than thou rhetoric while also gigging squad IMO.  I take it personal.   You want to drop it?  Quit kicking the horse, join a another squad, start your own squad but please would you just move on.  I'm done with ya Tool.



A8Grind


         
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: A8TOOL on November 20, 2008, 04:16:49 AM
Think this has become a
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purse fight    :aok      :lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: grizz441 on November 20, 2008, 04:27:58 AM
(http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/1974.gif)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: ColKLink on November 20, 2008, 05:31:43 AM
If everyone would apply, klinks rule of life #1.2 "dont beleive anything you hear, and only about 1/2 of what you see.......this would have no bearing. (shades) I do need to change the 1/2 to 3/4 these days though, my eyesight is getting bad, w age. simplifie :salutes stuff.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Getback on November 20, 2008, 08:52:14 AM
I'm thinking that if another 1299 players are discovered to have shade accounts I will be #1. :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: SHawk on November 20, 2008, 10:00:12 AM
I'm thinking that if another 1299 players are discovered to have shade accounts I will be #1. :rofl :rofl

Well, I don't and never have. You'll have to settle for #2  :lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: zuii on November 20, 2008, 11:25:43 AM
I truly had no idea this sort of thing went on. I must be naive, dumb perhaps.
i still dont get it. pass the popcorn please.


zuii
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: SHawk on November 20, 2008, 11:36:48 AM
This one is a tad suspect :O

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsof.php?playername=VansCrew&selectTour=LWTour106&pindex=65
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BnZs on November 20, 2008, 11:50:57 AM
This one is a tad suspect :O

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsof.php?playername=VansCrew&selectTour=LWTour106&pindex=65

I dunno, Vanscrew does spawn-camp alot, and some people are pelt dispensers. I'm pretty sure he had at least that many kills of me one day when he had a VH camped. I was trying to run him out of AP.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 20, 2008, 11:53:23 AM
This one is a tad suspect :O

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsof.php?playername=VansCrew&selectTour=LWTour106&pindex=65

No it's not.  Look at the rest of his stats.  Another guy killed his jeep 17 times with a panzer.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: clerick on November 20, 2008, 11:59:03 AM
What about this tool?

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=clerick&kcnt=146&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=82 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=clerick&kcnt=146&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=82)

He killed one guy 3 friggen times!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Shuffler on November 20, 2008, 12:53:03 PM
What about this tool?

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=clerick&kcnt=146&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=82 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=clerick&kcnt=146&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=82)

He killed one guy 3 friggen times!
You gotta watch that guy... once claimed he was in a pony and showed up with 2 engines and twin booms.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: FLOTSOM on November 20, 2008, 01:05:58 PM
What about this tool?

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=clerick&kcnt=146&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=82 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=clerick&kcnt=146&selectTour=LWTour105&pindex=82)

He killed one guy 3 friggen times!

DAMN IT! he killed YENNY!

or is that kenny?

either way DAMN IT!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: clerick on November 20, 2008, 01:10:35 PM
i hear that he even switched countries once...  and according to some he's a SPY!  :furious

Burn him!!!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Getback on November 20, 2008, 01:17:22 PM
In some games it is assumed that if you kill the same guy so many times straight that you are gaming the game and no points will be awarded.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: iTunes on November 20, 2008, 01:23:04 PM
This one is a tad suspect :O

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsof.php?playername=VansCrew&selectTour=LWTour106&pindex=65
Does it say who he killed etc? I couldn't see it and How many is that now we have discovered? 5/6?
Like I said earlier, I kinda feel for the guys who like to track their scores and see how they are at the end of the month, I know you and lynx and a few others are always there or thereabouts come end of tour time.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: SHawk on November 20, 2008, 02:14:56 PM
LMAO, man you guys are easy :rofl
I'm sure that idiot let Vanscrew kill his Bostons 28 times straight witha T-34
Why can't I ever find these dweebs? :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 20, 2008, 02:24:44 PM
In some games it is assumed that if you kill the same guy so many times straight that you are gaming the game and no points will be awarded.

In AW you'd get less points each time you killed the same player repeatedly.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 20, 2008, 02:25:09 PM
LMAO, man you guys are easy :rofl
I'm sure that idiot let Vanscrew kill his Bostons 28 times straight witha T-34
Why can't I ever find these dweebs? :aok

lol. I remember that. I was on base camping and he kept upping. 1 HE round would kill all 3.
 :rock
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 20, 2008, 02:27:32 PM
lol. I remember that. I was on base camping and he kept upping. 1 HE round would kill all 3.
 :rock

friend of yours?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 20, 2008, 02:27:52 PM
lol. I remember that. I was on base camping and he kept upping. 1 HE round would kill all 3.
 :rock

the way amsoil found trebor?  :lol

jk
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 20, 2008, 02:29:27 PM
friend of yours?

Nope.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Banshee7 on November 20, 2008, 02:31:13 PM
yeah..who could be friends with VansCrew???       :noid

funny...right after he consulted me about my 31 kills...he told me that if he had been given the opportunity that he would have done it too....
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 20, 2008, 02:34:28 PM
yeah..who could be friends with VansCrew???       :noid

funny...right after he consulted me about my 31 kills...he told me that if he had been given the opportunity that he would have done it too....

Ya,so? It dose not mean i have. I really dont care if people think i have a shades. People that know me more then just "VansCrew" know i dont. And besides i cant afford one.  :lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 20, 2008, 02:38:30 PM
Ya,so? It dose not mean i have. I really dont care if people think i have a shades. People that know me more then just "VansCrew" know i dont. And besides i cant afford one.  :lol

2 week trial ;)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RTHolmes on November 20, 2008, 02:40:59 PM
hehe probably best to not look for GV scores - turns a witch hunt into a wild goose chase. apart from lvts troop spamming, you got wonder why people keep spawning after being camped several kills.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: uberslet on November 20, 2008, 02:43:52 PM
just other day i was lookin around for a posible NOE mission to a base. fund a 262 comin through my  ack, all over the place. he runs, turns back, HOs me, i lose. name was Ivan, he was around for 2 tours previous and could afford a 262...  :noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 20, 2008, 02:45:50 PM
just other day i was lookin around for a posible NOE mission to a base. fund a 262 comin through my  ack, all over the place. he runs, turns back, HOs me, i lose. name was Ivan, he was around for 2 tours previous and could afford a 262...  :noid

Try flying something besides an la7 and you can get a 262 within a weeks time lol..
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Anodizer on November 20, 2008, 02:52:30 PM
Ya,so? It dose not mean i have. I really dont care if people think i have a shades. People that know me more then just "VansCrew" know i dont. And besides i cant afford one.  :lol

First of all, I am pleased to put your minds at ease by stating that I know for ab absolute fact Vandettascrew has no shade account..
I'm not at liberty to discuss how I know this....But I know for certain, gents....  

2nd of all, I love the fact that it is so much easier to find these people who for one reason or another, need to have
an exceptional score without all the work involved....  I play a few other games online beside Aces High....
I have never in my life seen anything as bad as I have seen in this particular game....  Why do people need to do this?
I suck as do many of us....   :lol  Yet, I do not feel the need to set up another account to kill so my score
gets better....  I just don't understand....  I truly could care less about score..  However, when my K/D teeters close to 1, I'm pleased with myself (pathetic, I know).  How can one be pleased with one's self (besides having a good rub-out session) when nothing was truly earned?  Makes you wonder how these people operate in real-life....
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: uberslet on November 20, 2008, 02:57:39 PM
Try flying something besides an la7 and you can get a 262 within a weeks time lol..
look at my stats page, tell me i fly the la7. ill let you do the work, my bit of punishment for you. i may have a couple kills in it, but its not even worth saying i "fly" it as a major bird compared to the F4U, even in a couple sorties in a 190D i have at 3 times the kills of my La 7. EDIT: that whole part i deleted i thought was from vans...my bad!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Buzzard7 on November 20, 2008, 03:03:18 PM
You don't suck Anodizer. You just don't see the ones coming in to steal your kill soon enough.
I watched you handle your 38 very well the other night.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Shuffler on November 20, 2008, 03:09:11 PM
You don't suck Anodizer. You just don't see the ones coming in to steal your kill soon enough.
I watched you handle your 38 very well the other night.

shhhhhh don't tell him that... he might realize how I get most of my kills.....
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: BaldEagl on November 20, 2008, 03:16:24 PM
In AW you'd get less points each time you killed the same player repeatedly.


ack-ack

Well that would take all the fun out of buff hunting.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: bongaroo on November 20, 2008, 03:17:45 PM
Well that would take all the fun out of buff hunting.

With all guns toggled on one trigger that fire with lazer precision I don't see how this would make buff hunting any less appealing anyways.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 20, 2008, 03:17:54 PM
First of all, I am pleased to put your minds at ease by stating that I know for ab absolute fact Vandettascrew has no shade account..
I'm not at liberty to discuss how I know this....But I know for certain, gents....  

2nd of all, I love the fact that it is so much easier to find these people who for one reason or another, need to have
an exceptional score without all the work involved....  I play a few other games online beside Aces High....
I have never in my life seen anything as bad as I have seen in this particular game....  Why do people need to do this?
I suck as do many of us....   :lol  Yet, I do not feel the need to set up another account to kill so my score
gets better....  I just don't understand....  I truly could care less about score..  However, when my K/D teeters close to 1, I'm pleased with myself (pathetic, I know).  How can one be pleased with one's self (besides having a good rub-out session) when nothing was truly earned?  Makes you wonder how these people operate in real-life....

Thanks Anodizer  :rock
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: grizz441 on November 20, 2008, 03:19:54 PM
I dunno, Vanscrew does spawn-camp alot, and some people are pelt dispensers. I'm pretty sure he had at least that many kills of me one day when he had a VH camped. I was trying to run him out of AP.

That max62 guy have been getting owned by EVERYONE for the last 2 camps.  I really think he is just the ultimate noob.  I think I was also online that day when Vans was defending a port and landed like 20 kills two times in a row lol.  Right place at the right time!  :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: saantana on November 20, 2008, 03:39:17 PM
I have to ask, how did The Few deal with this situation internally?
Ofcourse Ams is in question here.
Sad to hear. I thought he was a good guy, my opinion stands altered at the present time.

<S> Bruv, Kazaa and Ginger
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Scca on November 20, 2008, 03:44:22 PM
I have to ask, how did The Few deal with this situation internally?
Ofcourse Ams is in question here.
Sad to hear. I thought he was a good guy, my opinion stands altered at the present time.

<S> Bruv, Kazaa and Ginger
Look for hi "Im sorry" thread..
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: MajIssue on November 20, 2008, 04:05:48 PM
We do remove the perks as well and they get a warning.

However, I have also had to warn other players about confronting the player in question as well.  Someone gaming the game will not be tolerated, but we will also not tolerate players confronting others in the arenas. 

Doing that creates paranoia and angst for any new player coming into the game.  The proper way to handle to this situation is to bring it directly to HTC's attention (email or PM's work fine) and we will take care of it.

THREE CHEERS for skuzzy and HTC...

HIP HIP... HORAY
HIP HIP... HORAY
HIP HIP... HORAY
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Getback on November 20, 2008, 05:16:19 PM
Will Trebor become synonymous with "owned"?   :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Anodizer on November 20, 2008, 09:13:18 PM
You don't suck Anodizer. You just don't see the ones coming in to steal your kill soon enough.
I watched you handle your 38 very well the other night.

Hey, I hope you got the apology I sent on text that night...  Not sure if you logged off right after or what..
Did anus tell you?  Yeah dude, that was lame..  I'm sorry sir..<S>

But thanks for the complement....It's mostly because my gunnery sucks horribly...I cannot even begin to tell how many
times I've missed potentially simple shots that were not further than 200...  If there were a bad gunnery contest, I'd at least
be in the top 10, possibly top 5...
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Anodizer on November 20, 2008, 09:15:05 PM
Thanks Anodizer  :rock

Anytime sir.... :salute
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Buzzard7 on November 20, 2008, 09:50:54 PM
Apology accepted even though I never knew till now. I miss stupid simple shots all the time. In a furball I will sling lead at everything red. Not my intention to steal kills but it happens.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 20, 2008, 10:10:21 PM
I have to ask, how did The Few deal with this situation internally?
Ofcourse Ams is in question here.
Sad to hear. I thought he was a good guy, my opinion stands altered at the present time.

<S> Bruv, Kazaa and Ginger

We recruited Trebor to become a fully fledged few member.. and asset........................ ........

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 20, 2008, 10:26:21 PM
Hey, I hope you got the apology I sent on text that night...  Not sure if you logged off right after or what..
Did anus tell you?  Yeah dude, that was lame..  I'm sorry sir..<S>

But thanks for the complement....It's mostly because my gunnery sucks horribly...I cannot even begin to tell how many
times I've missed potentially simple shots that were not further than 200...  If there were a bad gunnery contest, I'd at least
be in the top 10, possibly top 5...

Your gunnery can't be that bad. Once you, another 38, and a k4 caught me low, slow, and alone and you all bounced me. You Ho'd me, giving me a PW.  Awesome.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Anodizer on November 20, 2008, 11:50:05 PM
Your gunnery can't be that bad. Once you, another 38, and a k4 caught me low, slow, and alone and you all bounced me. You Ho'd me, giving me a PW.  Awesome.


I did?  Are you sure it was me?  Do you remember when it happened?  I probably have film, I film everything..  I don't remember ever getting a kill on you though..  I don't even run into you that much..  But, if you say it happened, it must have happened..  I try to do that less and less....  But, when there's a streak where I get ho'd, it's coming back at somebody..
I'm sorry it was you..  Now, I just avoid the ho seeing that I'm killed most of the time anyway..  No if's, and's or buts, the other guy ALWAYS shoots if I merge anything close to head-on..  So, I just don't do head-on merges unless I know who it is..  And yes, I swear, my gunnery is
worse than anyone you know..  Even tonight in MW arena, I was missing shots where the other dude was 200 yards in front of me..
I really mean it..  I will post films if you want of me missing the simplest shots..
And, I didn't mean to hijack this witchhunt...Carry on..   :D
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Guppy35 on November 21, 2008, 12:07:42 AM
Your gunnery can't be that bad. Once you, another 38, and a k4 caught me low, slow, and alone and you all bounced me. You Ho'd me, giving me a PW.  Awesome.

Quit complaining.  You shoot me all the time.  And Ano is a Headhunter, which is proof enough he can't shoot! :)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 21, 2008, 12:23:25 AM

I did?  Are you sure it was me?  Do you remember when it happened?  I probably have film, I film everything..  I don't remember ever getting a kill on you though..  I don't even run into you that much..  But, if you say it happened, it must have happened..  I try to do that less and less....  But, when there's a streak where I get ho'd, it's coming back at somebody..
I'm sorry it was you..  Now, I just avoid the ho seeing that I'm killed most of the time anyway..  No if's, and's or buts, the other guy ALWAYS shoots if I merge anything close to head-on..  So, I just don't do head-on merges unless I know who it is..  And yes, I swear, my gunnery is
worse than anyone you know..  Even tonight in MW arena, I was missing shots where the other dude was 200 yards in front of me..
I really mean it..  I will post films if you want of me missing the simplest shots..
And, I didn't mean to hijack this witchhunt...Carry on..   :D

It was a while ago.. 3 months maybe? You didn't get kill because I managed to stay alive for a while.... help finally arrived. :)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Getback on November 21, 2008, 01:23:35 AM
It was a while ago.. 3 months maybe? You didn't get kill because I managed to stay alive for a while.... help finally arrived. :)

I got a most dishonorable kill on Steve once. He was vulching with about 20 rooks at a base where the shore battery could be pointed right at the runway. I just timed it when he came for the vulch and kablooey.

Only got about 3 kills before the Rooks took my beloved shore battery out. Have never seen another map where the shore battery could do that.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 21, 2008, 01:27:09 AM
I got a most dishonorable kill on Steve once. He was vulching with about 20 rooks at a base where the shore battery could be pointed right at the runway. I just timed it when he came for the vulch and kablooey.

Only got about 3 kills before the Rooks took my beloved shore battery out. Have never seen another map where the shore battery could do that.

dishonorable? seems pretty appropriate if you ask me.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RAM on November 21, 2008, 03:05:36 AM
dishonorable? seems pretty appropriate if you ask me.

seems like a nice ownage, in fact  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 21, 2008, 03:06:23 AM
I got a most dishonorable kill on Steve once. He was vulching with about 20 rooks at a base where the shore battery could be pointed right at the runway. I just timed it when he came for the vulch and kablooey.

Only got about 3 kills before the Rooks took my beloved shore battery out. Have never seen another map where the shore battery could do that.

Blah, if I was vulchin, all is fair. good shot.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: saantana on November 21, 2008, 11:51:53 AM
dishonorable? seems pretty appropriate if you ask me.

I would have had a good laugh from that.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: ink on November 21, 2008, 12:07:02 PM
Blah, if I was vulchin, all is fair. good shot.



thats funny steve i was gonna say, " ah he was Vulching got what he deserved" :rofl


your all right :rock

<S> i will always give ya a chk6.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: DerHund on November 21, 2008, 12:34:16 PM
These witch hunts must cease........

No good can come from it, only more harm.

Cant you guys see?  It's only a week from black Friday, and the Ban-stick has been swinging, mightily.

Also gotta clean up 200. 

Bad for PR on the eve of the biggest marketing push of the year.  History and Military channels rife with commercials.

Imagine little Johnny asking his folks to spring for $14.95/month on their credit card...... until they investigate what kind of game they are paying for and see the filth, politics, and witch-hunts.

That will surely put a damper on the amount of fresh noob pelts to be seen over the holiday season, and really hamstring the budget for updates like the HE-111  :devil



:noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 21, 2008, 01:03:11 PM
These witch hunts must cease........

Better yet, why not ask the tools to stop their cheating?

these witch hunts are fun, nothing like the sweet smell of burning flesh roasting on the pyre.


ack-ack
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Steve on November 21, 2008, 01:09:46 PM
Better yet, why not ask the tools to stop their cheating?

these witch hunts are fun, nothing like the sweet smell of burning flesh roasting on the pyre.


ack-ack

Some people type feel good blather just to make themselves feel noble.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Skuzzy on November 21, 2008, 01:11:42 PM
Better yet, why not ask the tools to stop their cheating?

these witch hunts are fun, nothing like the sweet smell of burning flesh roasting on the pyre.

ack-ack

Especially when an innocent is publicly decimated by the community to the point they have to terminate thier account because no one will leave them alone, in the game, or on the board.

Yeah, that's a hoot.  

Some people type feel good blather just to make themselves feel noble.

And some people feel they have to ridicule others for no reason at all.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: bongaroo on November 21, 2008, 01:20:10 PM
 :rofl


Good zingers Skuzzinator, lol
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Dragon on November 21, 2008, 01:20:53 PM
Quote from: Dragon on November 17, 2008, 11:50:37 AM
Very nice.  Although I can see some people exploiting this information.


Quote from Lusche:
In which way?




Answer from Dragon:  Look around
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: toonces3 on November 21, 2008, 01:21:26 PM
I think I just found a new favorite avatar up ^ there!
                                                            
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: hubsonfire on November 21, 2008, 01:22:22 PM
Who quit?
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Skuzzy on November 21, 2008, 01:23:14 PM
That would be none of your business.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Dragon on November 21, 2008, 01:26:05 PM
I think I just found a new favorite avatar up ^ there!
                                                            


OOOOOhhhhhh, that is nice.  round and round they go.  :O :aok
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: DerHund on November 21, 2008, 01:26:47 PM

Yeah, that's a hoot.  



This is a hoot.......

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/owl-face.jpg)
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: MajIssue on November 21, 2008, 01:40:11 PM
I thought this was a whitch hunt not an apologyfest. BURN THE WHITCHES!
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Scca on November 21, 2008, 01:51:32 PM
Especially when an innocent is publicly decimated by the community to the point they have to terminate thier account because no one will leave them alone, in the game, or on the board.

Yeah, that's a hoot. 

And some people feel they have to ridicule others for no reason at all.
Ya know, you are right.  I think though it may be a result of a frustration of the player base when people who perform these acts seem to have no consequences.

When a player has been outed for score padding as in the case of Amsoil,  and is still listed as last months #1 ranked fighter pilot, the player base gets frustrated. With no apparent action from HTC, like anything else in life, people feel they need to take it into their own hands.  I am not saying it's right, I am saying it's a natural response to inaction by the "authorities".

I know there is a lot of talk about like "HTC doesn't mind if people have 2 accounts, it's an extra $15 in their coffers. That's why they don't do anything about people vulching second accounts."  I wonder how many people canceled because of this uncontrolled behavior?

Maybe HTC does do something about shade vulching, but their home page doesn't seem to support that assumption. 

Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 21, 2008, 02:04:12 PM
Ya know, you are right.  I think though it may be a result of a frustration of the player base when people who perform these acts seem to have no consequences.

When a player has been outed for score padding as in the case of Amsoil,  and is still listed as last months #1 ranked fighter pilot, the player base gets frustrated. With no apparent action from HTC, like anything else in life, people feel they need to take it into their own hands.  I am not saying it's right, I am saying it's a natural response to inaction by the "authorities".

I know there is a lot of talk about like "HTC doesn't mind if people have 2 accounts, it's an extra $15 in their coffers. That's why they don't do anything about people vulching second accounts."  I wonder how many people canceled because of this uncontrolled behavior?

Maybe HTC does do something about shade vulching, but their home page doesn't seem to support that assumption. 

It's a business alright. Maybe they'll get rid of the new scoring system, how many dollars has and will it lose them outing shadekillers and shades?
"I wonder how many people canceled because of this uncontrolled behavior?"

Yea, and if they did remove the new scoring pages because it wasn't intended for "witchhunts" (leading to canceled accounts and less profit, despite the nature of the account holders) then I'm sure as hell not resubbing.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: DerHund on November 21, 2008, 02:09:39 PM
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:noid
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: RumbleB on November 21, 2008, 02:22:10 PM
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:noid

Welcome to the forums newcomer. I see you have started making excellent contributions already! I am sure you have never been here before.
Title: Re: First new scorepage witchunt!
Post by: Skuzzy on November 21, 2008, 02:26:23 PM
Ya know, you are right.  I think though it may be a result of a frustration of the player base when people who perform these acts seem to have no consequences.

When a player has been outed for score padding as in the case of Amsoil,  and is still listed as last months #1 ranked fighter pilot, the player base gets frustrated. With no apparent action from HTC, like anything else in life, people feel they need to take it into their own hands.  I am not saying it's right, I am saying it's a natural response to inaction by the "authorities".

I know there is a lot of talk about like "HTC doesn't mind if people have 2 accounts, it's an extra $15 in their coffers. That's why they don't do anything about people vulching second accounts."  I wonder how many people canceled because of this uncontrolled behavior?

Maybe HTC does do something about shade vulching, but their home page doesn't seem to support that assumption. 

No apparent action from HTC eh?  Sorry, but that is my task to deal with and I opted to work on the stats pages instead.  Forgive me for wanting to really put forth an effort to improve things for everyone.  We are a small company and all of us wear multiple hats.  It is the nature of how we want to deal with this.

My priorities may not coincide with yours, but that is not for you to decide.  As it turns out, I still need to write some support programs to help deal with folks who game the score system.  But instead of doing that, I will waste the rest of the day appeasing people who are threatening us.  Now you know why we do not post up what we are doing in a dev blog, or some such nonsense.  It takes away from dev time.  Enough to make a huge difference.

The player coming in making threats based on his/her own skepticism, instead of asking any questions to the people that are being threatened.  You want to close your account because it was too much trouble to ask us any questions, then go for it.  You want to close you account because we do not disclose what we do with these players, then close it.

This thread is done.