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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Max on April 23, 2014, 08:25:18 AM
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Two weeks ago I was in the DFW area and paid a visit to the HTC office. Hitech gave a brief display of some of the new water/terrain...very cool stuff and not unlike what's been posted in the updates. I watched Dale at work and let me say, what he does is tedious stuff. The situation is no less demanding for Skuzzy.
It's safe to say that HTC is aware of the side switch time demands/complaints/suggestions, which have overtaken the general discussion forum of late. Each time Hitech or Skuzzy have to deal with a distraction on the BBS, less work is applied to the game re-write. I for one would like to see the game progress continue unfettered. Can we just leave the drama behind and let these folks do their' work?
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+1
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It's safe to say that HTC is aware of the side switch time demands/complaints/suggestions, which have overtaken the general discussion forum of late. Each time Hitech or Skuzzy have to deal with a distraction on the BBS, less work is applied to the game re-write. I for one would like to see the game progress continue unfettered. Can we just leave the drama behind and let these folks do their' work?
The majority of the chatter about the 12 hour rule could have been cut off at the knees with a simple, "Hey dudes, we hear what you're saying. We'll look into it for the next update" or something similar.
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The majority of the chatter about the 12 hour rule could have been cut off at the knees with a simple, "Hey dudes, we hear what you're saying. We'll look into it for the next update" or something similar.
+1
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scuze me Muppets but am curious...
what does TWBYDHAS stand for?
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The majority of the chatter about the 12 hour rule could have been cut off at the knees with a simple, "Hey dudes, we hear what you're saying. We'll look into it for the next update" or something similar.
Did they never reply to any of the numerous requests? If not I don't think the matter was handled well by either side. Spamming the forums with the same requests like was done, evidently got what was requested: A reply. A reply that may be unpopular with some but a reply no less, a reply I think is justified given the obvious insolence of blatantly breaking the rules. Somebodies fought the law and the law won.
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scuze me Muppets but am curious...
what does TWBYDHAS stand for?
Please refer all Muppet cryptology questions to Grizz's PM box. We all signed confidentiality agreements and don't want to lose our Top Secret Crypto clearance
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The majority of the chatter about the 12 hour rule could have been cut off at the knees with a simple, "Hey dudes, we hear what you're saying. We'll look into it for the next update" or something similar.
+1
I find HTC loves to stick its head in the sand when something comes up they don't want to deal with anymore.
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scuze me Muppets but am curious...
what does TWBYDHAS stand for?
(http://i.imgur.com/t2kYFQj.png?1)
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The majority of the chatter about the 12 hour rule could have been cut off at the knees with a simple, "Hey dudes, we hear what you're saying. We'll look into it for the next update" or something similar.
Mmmmmbecause the hint was too subtle. :banana:
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Did they never reply to any of the numerous requests?
I never saw any.
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+1
I find HTC loves to stick its head in the sand when something comes up they don't want to deal with anymore.
Statements like this always make me think of a Bill Cosby line from his old stand up routine "Let the beatings commence".
Go read this thread,
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361494.0.html
And see how well a response to the OP worked out, he is still screaming just like he did before I gave him a response.
Now do you think a response to you is going to work out well?
The point is many time we are damned if we do damned if we don't, many times we choose to say nothing because it is the less of 2 evils
HiTech
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Please refer all Muppet cryptology questions to Grizz's PM box. We all signed confidentiality agreements and don't want to lose our Top Secret Crypto clearance
well I know a little bit of cryptology. But this one is kinda weak. Sounds almost like....dare I say....blackmail?
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See rule #4
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See rule #4
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Statements like this always make me think of a Bill Cosby line from his old stand up routine "Let the beatings commence".
Go read this thread,
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361494.0.html
And see how well a response to the OP worked out, he is still screaming just like he did before I gave him a response.
Now do you think a response to you is going to work out well?
The point is many time we are damned if we do damned if we don't, many times we choose to say nothing because it is the less of 2 evils
HiTech
Thanks for the clarification on this matter.
Will leave you in peace from my side of the screen
Thanks for all the hard work :salute
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well I know a little bit of cryptology. But this one is kinda weak. Sounds almost like....dare I say....blackmail? .
Too childish to be taken seriously. Too chickenchit to be straightforward. TCTBTS TCTBS :D
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Edited as comment quoted caught a rule4
That's cool if you don't accept it but spamming the issue all over the threads probably isn't the brightest of ideas at this time. I really find it hard to believe their was never a response to this topic that has been popping up for so long. Even if it was 'cuz its my game' or something like that just deal with it. I have played late night and yes there can be dull periods but I always , always managed to find a fight. DId I pick the guys that upped right over the end of the runway? Nope I let them get alt so we had a good fight which made them come back as they were also looking for a fight not to get pick .024 nanoseconds after their gear was up.
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Too childish to be taken seriously. Too chickenchit to be straightforward. TCTBTS TCTBS :D
Are you referring to me or the Muppets?
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Statements like this always make me think of a Bill Cosby line from his old stand up routine "Let the beatings commence".
Go read this thread,
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361494.0.html
And see how well a response to the OP worked out, he is still screaming just like he did before I gave him a response.
Now do you think a response to you is going to work out well?
The point is many time we are damned if we do damned if we don't, many times we choose to say nothing because it is the less of 2 evils
HiTech
With apologies to Mr. Geezer, that was a stupid topic to begin with. I read a couple lines into it and just stopped. I knew it wasn't worth reading.
You don't have to respond to every retarded question people ask. You don't have to say very much at all. Most of your subscribers know you have better things to do, but ignoring a reoccurring subject simply because you don't feel like messing with it defeats the purpose of having this BBS in the first place.
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Statements like this always make me think of a Bill Cosby line from his old stand up routine "Let the beatings commence".
Go read this thread,
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361494.0.html
And see how well a response to the OP worked out, he is still screaming just like he did before I gave him a response.
Now do you think a response to you is going to work out well?
The point is many time we are damned if we do damned if we don't, many times we choose to say nothing because it is the less of 2 evils
HiTech
+1 HT
We need you to be focused on coading, not wack-a-mole on the forums. How about players discuss real issues... like Bieber. Or ammo loadouts on the P-47 and Fw-190? :D
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Are you referring to me or the Muppets?
Not at all. I consider some friends and respect yet more. I was referring to the 'super secret made up bs.' ;)
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Statements like this always make me think of a Bill Cosby line from his old stand up routine "Let the beatings commence".
Go read this thread,
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361494.0.html
And see how well a response to the OP worked out, he is still screaming just like he did before I gave him a response.
Now do you think a response to you is going to work out well?
The point is many time we are damned if we do damned if we don't, many times we choose to say nothing because it is the less of 2 evils
HiTech
Ty HT ,can you point me to your answer on the 12 hour rule also please?
Because in that threads case i have to agree with Triton.
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Ty HT ,can you point me to your answer on the 12 hour rule also please?
Because in that threads case i have to agree with Triton.
Seriously? :old:
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Seriously? :old:
No doubt. I'm beginning to think this is some organized effort put forth by a very vocal minority on these forums.
I like this one from Hitec :
« Reply #256 on: June 24, 2013, 11:35:50 AM »
The bbs is not for personal vendettas.
HiTech
Some should take heed. Why did I find that? I am taking MY time to look for a reply, and I don't eve think the 12 hour rule is that big of an issue with all the other things going on in the game. Others obviously don't agree with me but that's ok, but they are rally starting to take up waaayyy to much time of the guys at HTC, I think it's kinda selfish at this point to be taking so much time away when the guys could be working on updates and such that would please a much larger crowd that so far have remained silent.
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Seriously? :old:
Okay, can you point me to an answer then please?
Like them saying they will NOT change this rule and why?
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It's safe to say that HTC is aware of the side switch time demands/complaints/suggestions, which have overtaken the general discussion forum of late. Each time Hitech or Skuzzy have to deal with a distraction on the BBS, less work is applied to the game re-write. I for one would like to see the game progress continue unfettered. Can we just leave the drama behind and let these folks do their' work?
I think the most vociferous proponents of changing the side switch time would argue that (a relatively easy short term fix of) reducing the side switch time would have a more positive effect on subscription numbers and current player satisfaction, than any sort of long-term eye-candy upgrade would have. The tried-and-true cost / benefit analysis principle at play here.
My fear is that this whole thing has devolved into a piss'n contest. On the one hand you have (it would appear) a vocal majority of vets with the mindset of "this is a no brainer that should have been changed a long time ago" mixed in with the paying customer is always right mentality.... versus Hitech, feeling the masses are attempting to bully him into making this change..... which I suspect would have the net effect of stiffening his resolve to make whatever changes on his timetable... and not before.
I've always heard that you get more with sugar than you do with vinegar..... My fear is that the vinegar approach employed by the masses.... Will have the net effect of having Hitech cut off his nose to spite his face.
Yes Hitech, this is your game and there is no doubt that you are the boss.... please, at least show your supporters and paying customers that you hear our concern, acknowledge there's a problem, and assure us it will be addressed..... We may not like how it's addressed..... But that would be better than feeling ignored.
Thank you for a wonderful game that provides plenty of enjoyment....... That we ALL want to see..... succeed....and be around for a long, long time.
:salute Nishizawa
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I think the most vociferous proponents of changing the side switch time would argue that (a relatively easy short term fix of) reducing the side switch time would have a more positive effect on subscription numbers and current player satisfaction, than any sort of long-term eye-candy upgrade would have. The tried-and-true cost / benefit analysis principle at play here.
My fear is that this whole thing has devolved into a piss'n contest. On the one hand you have (it would appear) a vocal majority of vets with the mindset of "this is a no brainer that should have been changed a long time ago" mixed in with the paying customer is always right mentality.... versus Hitech, feeling the masses are attempting to bully him into making this change..... which I suspect would have the net effect of stiffening his resolve to make whatever changes on his timetable... and not before.
I've always heard that you get more with sugar than you do with vinegar..... My fear is that the vinegar approach employed by the masses.... Will have the net effect of having Hitech cut off his nose to spite his face.
Yes Hitech, this is your game and there is no doubt that you are the boss.... please, at least show your supporters and paying customers that you hear our concern, acknowledge there's a problem, and assure us it will be addressed..... We may not like how it's addressed..... But that would be better than feeling ignored.
Thank you for a wonderful game that provides plenty of enjoyment....... That we ALL want to see..... succeed....and be around for a long, long time.
:salute Nishizawa
We tried sugar,its not working.I canceled my account 1 week ago,i wont be coming back till this place gets more player friendly.
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We tried sugar,its not working.I canceled my account 1 week ago,i wont be coming back till this place gets more player friendly.
A-gain. Seriously? :headscratch:
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A-gain. Seriously? :headscratch:
Seriously :aok
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:o I realize that with the current economic conditions we all want our money to have the most impact, but please point me in a direction where you can have as much entertainment, hour after hour, for the $14.95 a month! While never is a "long time" I know of NO GAME on-line that comes as close to reality for us desktop "fighter pilots" as the AH does. It appears to me that the major issues with AH, currently, are the players not the game. Its a great game, enjoy it, if you don't leave, and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Don't try to ruin it for the rest of us. Here are some suggestions to increase your fun level. Suggesting and Complaining are NOT the same thing. Suggesting is constructive while Complaining is destructive.
1. Play for fun, not to dominate everyone.
2. Remember everyone that kills you is NOT exploiting the game.
3. One shot kills DO happen, it is NOT uncommon. (Good Shots)
4. Takes 2 to HO.
5. There will ALWAYS be Bomb****.
6. There will ALWAYS be Spawn campers.
7. Lag is REAL! Deal with it.
8. Everyone Hordes.
9. Everyone Vulches.
10. No matter How good you are, there is ALWAYS someone better.
:rock
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:o I realize that with the current economic conditions we all want our money to have the most impact, but please point me in a direction where you can have as much entertainment, hour after hour, for the $14.95 a month! While never is a "long time" I know of NO GAME on-line that comes as close to reality for us desktop "fighter pilots" as the AH does. It appears to me that the major issues with AH, currently, are the players not the game. Its a great game, enjoy it, if you don't leave, and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Don't try to ruin it for the rest of us. Here are some suggestions to increase your fun level. Suggesting and Complaining are NOT the same thing. Suggesting is constructive while Complaining is destructive.
1. Play for fun, not to dominate everyone.
2. Remember everyone that kills you is NOT exploiting the game.
3. One shot kills DO happen, it is NOT uncommon. (Good Shots)
4. Takes 2 to HO.
5. There will ALWAYS be Bomb****.
6. There will ALWAYS be Spawn campers.
7. Lag is REAL! Deal with it.
8. Everyone Hordes.
9. Everyone Vulches.
10. No matter How good you are, there is ALWAYS someone better.
:rock
:aok :aok
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:aok :aok
Seriously?
:huh
:D
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OK I couldn't find a reply what I did find while looking for a reply is that you see the same people for the most part asking for a change. I would not call them the majority in the least.
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OK I couldn't find a reply what I did find while looking for a reply is that you see the same people for the most part asking for a change. I would not call them the majority in the least.
I see the same few people defending it.
:rofl
And YES nothing from HTC
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:o I realize that with the current economic conditions we all want our money to have the most impact, but please point me in a direction where you can have as much entertainment, hour after hour, for the $14.95 a month! While never is a "long time" I know of NO GAME on-line that comes as close to reality for us desktop "fighter pilots" as the AH does. It appears to me that the major issues with AH, currently, are the players not the game. Its a great game, enjoy it, if you don't leave, and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Don't try to ruin it for the rest of us. Here are some suggestions to increase your fun level. Suggesting and Complaining are NOT the same thing. Suggesting is constructive while Complaining is destructive.
1. Play for fun, not to dominate everyone.
2. Remember everyone that kills you is NOT exploiting the game.
3. One shot kills DO happen, it is NOT uncommon. (Good Shots)
4. Takes 2 to HO.
5. There will ALWAYS be Bomb****.
6. There will ALWAYS be Spawn campers.
7. Lag is REAL! Deal with it.
8. Everyone Hordes.
9. Everyone Vulches.
10. No matter How good you are, there is ALWAYS someone better.
:rock
Statement of the week award goes to you. I would be willing to pay 25.00 a month to play this game
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Statement of the week award goes to you. I would be willing to pay 25.00 a month to play this game
I'm not willing to pay 15 atm,to each his own.
:salute
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Two weeks ago I was in the DFW area and paid a visit to the HTC office. Hitech gave a brief display of some of the new water/terrain...very cool stuff and not unlike what's been posted in the updates. I watched Dale at work and let me say, what he does is tedious stuff. The situation is no less demanding for Skuzzy.
It's safe to say that HTC is aware of the side switch time demands/complaints/suggestions, which have overtaken the general discussion forum of late. Each time Hitech or Skuzzy have to deal with a distraction on the BBS, less work is applied to the game re-write. I for one would like to see the game progress continue unfettered. Can we just leave the drama behind and let these folks do their' work?
+10000000000000000000000000000000000
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I see the same few people defending it.
:rofl
Just how many regular posters do you think there are on these forums? While looking I even came across a post of mine suggesting a compromise and acpe agreeing with others compramises. MY issue at this point is the blatant violations and those that choose to push the issue. Even after they have canceled their subs. OK canceling subs is a new tactic go ahead and see if that works better than spamming the boards, which is apparently not being well received by the guys who's house we are in. If ya don't agree with it go ahead and cancel your subs already, but canceling subs then continuing to engage in a nonstarter of a tactic like spamming the boards is just plain obnoxious at this point. Don't make a threat, carry out that threat(cancel subs) then go back to a losing tactic like spamming the boards all you are gonna get from that is a PNG.
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Just how many regular posters do you think there are on these forums? While looking I even came across a post of mine suggesting a compromise and acpe agreeing with others compramises. MY issue at this point is the blatant violations and those that choose to push the issue. Even after they have canceled their subs. OK canceling subs is a new tactic go ahead and see if that works better than spamming the boards, which is apparently not being well received by the guys who's house we are in. If ya don't agree with it go ahead and cancel your subs already, but canceling subs then continuing to engage in a nonstarter of a tactic like spamming the boards is just plain obnoxious at this point. Don't make a threat, carry out that threat(cancel subs) then go back to a losing tactic like spamming the boards all you are gonna get from that is a PNG.
If i was HTC i would not being trying to make so many paying customers so angry when numbers are already low.
I would have given an answer about this long ago ,and try to work WITH my paying base.
That's just me though.
And who is loosing ,WE give HTC our money ,not the other way around.
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If i was HTC i would not being trying to make so many paying customers so angry when numbers are already low.
I would have given an answer about this long ago ,and try to work WITH my paying base.
That's just me though.
And who is loosing ,WE give HTC our money ,not the other way around.
We purchase time on the AHservers AS IS. You know HTC has to have seen the request but have chosen not to, address it at this point. I seem to want to remember that the change was made because that's how it used to be when the servers were merged and they just haven't changed it back. Still, trying to force the issue on the forums is not working so why continue to do it? It just doent seem like that big of a deal, when there are the updates to work on, and Skuzzy spends an awful lot of time helping people with their computer issues and other technical things. Is the 12 hour rule that much more important than helping someone with their computer or working on codeing for the updates? You have already shown that it is by cancelling your sub, but yet still persist on pushing an issue you have already played your strongest hand on.
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We purchase time on the AHservers AS IS. You know HTC has to have seen the request but have chosen not to, address it at this point. I seem to want to remember that the change was made because that's how it used to be when the servers were merged and they just haven't changed it back. Still, trying to force the issue on the forums is not working so why continue to do it? It just doent seem like that big of a deal, when there are the updates to work on, and Skuzzy spends an awful lot of time helping people with their computer issues and other technical things. Is the 12 hour rule that much more important than helping someone with their computer or working on codeing for the updates? You have already shown that it is by cancelling your sub, but yet still persist on pushing an issue you have already played your strongest hand on.
Ahh so i should just give up on the game and go away,no ty
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Ahh so i should just give up on the game and go away,no ty
Ahh so i should just give up on the game and go away,no ty
isn't that what you are doing tho canceling your sub and pushing an issue that may be the reason some were pNG'd and multiple upon multiple of rule violations and locked threads? Im not saying you aren't entitled to what you want, just that spamming the threads is obviously not working, and as Nishi pointed out this thing may have boiled down to a pissn contest.
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isn't that what you are doing tho canceling your sub and pushing an issue that may be the reason some were pNG'd and multiple upon multiple of rule violations and locked threads? Im not saying you aren't entitled to what you want, just that spamming the threads is obviously not working, and as Nishi pointed out this thing may have boiled down to a pissn contest.
Maybe it is working more then you know.
And as you already stated,im playing my ONLY card, not re subing till this place gets more player friendly.
I did not ever say i canceled my account because only of the 12 hour rule btw.
:salute
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Maybe it is working more then you know.
And as you already stated,im playing my ONLY card, not re subing till this place gets more player friendly.
I did not ever say i canceled my account because only of the 12 hour rule btw.
:salute
Sorry, guess that's the hot topic of the day, week past 3 years. So I assumed :salute
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Seriously :aok
I bet I could find the answer for you once I'm home from the workplace, if I'm inclined. Or ... you could do a post search under Dale's forum account (this'll be moons back) and see him mention that the 12 hour switch was decided on with input from the. community and that its not going to keep changing. Topic locks are actually rather blunt in themself. It indicates a dead topic. All the obtuseness in the world won't change that, especially with an pouty foot-stomping attitude attached.
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I just wanted to say that last night, I saw Jaeger1 change the side switch timer in the AvA, and it took him about 2 minutes, even while I was shooting at him.
It's clearly not an involved, drawn-out process, and wouldn't delay updates by even a day.
So while I think many have been a little harsh, the "well they're busy!!!" reason for why a change hasn't been made is utterly nonsensical.
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I just wanted to say that last night, I saw Jaeger1 change the side switch timer in the AvA, and it took him about 2 minutes, even while I was shooting at him.
It's clearly not an involved, drawn-out process, and wouldn't delay updates by even a day.
So while I think many have been a little harsh, the "well they're busy!!!" reason for why a change hasn't been made is utterly nonsensical.
Exactly
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You know a lot of people are blaming the 12 hour rule for their not waning to play anymore, but as I look in the forums and in the game it seems the vasy majority want to do 1 of 2 things that's furball and roll bases. This gets boing after awhile. IMHO the historical squads that fly actual missions, not just rolling bases in 20 thousand p38s may have it right. But its on us the player base to change how the game is actually played. Try something different, get out of the horde and pork some ords, escort a buff on a long range mission do a stuka raid hell those are always fun. Get a bunch squaddies together and go kill the furball with a fighter sweep, try something new. Cant switch sides to where the furballs are? Go bomb something, isn't that better than spamming the boards over the same things over and over again?
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Just my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2KLyBapfTc
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Just my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2KLyBapfTc
:rofl
He MUST be an AH subscriber!
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I just wanted to say that last night, I saw Jaeger1 change the side switch timer in the AvA, and it took him about 2 minutes, even while I was shooting at him.
It's clearly not an involved, drawn-out process, and wouldn't delay updates by even a day.
So while I think many have been a little harsh, the "well they're busy!!!" reason for why a change hasn't been made is utterly nonsensical.
+1
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Statements like this always make me think of a Bill Cosby line from his old stand up routine "Let the beatings commence".
Go read this thread,
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361494.0.html
And see how well a response to the OP worked out, he is still screaming just like he did before I gave him a response.
Now do you think a response to you is going to work out well?
The point is many time we are damned if we do damned if we don't, many times we choose to say nothing because it is the less of 2 evils
HiTech
Whiners are gonna whine.......
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Two weeks ago I was in the DFW area and paid a visit to the HTC office. Hitech gave a brief display of some of the new water/terrain...very cool stuff and not unlike what's been posted in the updates. I watched Dale at work and let me say, what he does is tedious stuff. The situation is no less demanding for Skuzzy.
It's safe to say that HTC is aware of the side switch time demands/complaints/suggestions, which have overtaken the general discussion forum of late. Each time Hitech or Skuzzy have to deal with a distraction on the BBS, less work is applied to the game re-write. I for one would like to see the game progress continue unfettered. Can we just leave the drama behind and let these folks do their' work?
+1 MAX :cheers:
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Cant switch sides to where the furballs are? Go bomb something, isn't that better than spamming the boards over the same things over and over again?
I am here to fly fighters and that is it.
If I log on in the morning to play for an hour and the only fight is between the two countries I am not on, I switch.
you can go work an 8 hour day, have an hour commute both ways and when you get home to log on and play with your friends you can't… because it hasn't been 12 hours yet.
Fun huh?
nope.
log out.
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Seems like the answer would be to not switch sides in the morning then. You know how the game works but you still switch in the morning knowing there is a very good chance your friends will be on in the evening prior to the 12 hours being up.
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The side switch whinning went way beyond posting a statement into lets be obnoxious and harrass htc to give us what we want. HTC should give them a choice, a warm glass of shut the hell up or the fire hose.
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scuze me Muppets but am curious...
what does TWBYDHAS stand for?
:noid
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Well, since I was sucked into posting by Shamus's YouTube link, here's the answer hitech gave back in 2009: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,272524.msg3409835.html#msg3409835
It's every bit as appropriate today as it was then.
<sniped for the key bits>
Now things have not really changed since the days I have first started playing online games, and are very much the same for almost all genera of games.
The is one very very simple fact. People will eventually get board with any game they play. 95% of the people leave quietly and find a new game or hobby to enjoy.
5% of the people are board like yourself and begin to blame the game for there boredom. The reality is they are just not having, the adventure and learning they used to enjoy is gone for them, and there really is not much that can be done to ever make them happy.
Then these 5% wish to state things like it cost much less to keep an existing customer than find a new one, in reality nothing could be farther from the truth. There is another flight sim company would tried to please there old time customers with many game play changes, in the end each change they made chased more and more of the normal cycle game players away. Started limited how much fun a new person had, and destroyed the game using the simple thought that they should listen to the whines of old time players who really are nothing more than burnt out on the game because they have been playing to long.
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Nice find Easy :aok
Somethings never change huh?
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Seems like the answer would be to not switch sides in the morning then. You know how the game works but you still switch in the morning knowing there is a very good chance your friends will be on in the evening prior to the 12 hours being up.
Do you realize how dumb you sound right now.
I should log out and avoid playing all together just incase later that night my friends log on and we want to be on the same country.
Yeah.. thats some great motivation for me to keep handing my money over.
"don't play now, because you won't be able to play later.. but keep paying"
hahahah
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I am here to fly fighters and that is it.
If I log on in the morning to play for an hour and the only fight is between the two countries I am not on, I switch.
you can go work an 8 hour day, have an hour commute both ways and when you get home to log on and play with your friends you can't… because it hasn't been 12 hours yet.
Fun huh?
nope.
log out.
You choose to participate in one part of the game, that is your choice. The powers tha be have chosen to keep it a 12 hour rule. When you are unwilling to change why sould HTC be willing to change especially with the way some people are going about it. Making threats, and throwing tantrums when they don't get what they want., and yes that is exactly what this latest round of spamming threads about 12 hour rule is, a tantrum by an overly vocal minority of the AH universe. It may be a majority on the forums I don't know but you guys sure do squawk enough to sound like a majority.
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Do you realize how dumb you sound right now.
I should log out and avoid playing all together just incase later that night my friends log on and we want to be on the same country.
Yeah.. thats some great motivation for me to keep handing my money over.
"don't play now, because you won't be able to play later.. but keep paying"
hahahah
and the constant squabbling over what is not a major issue makes new players want to spend theirs? You have options but you don't want to take them you want it 'your way' even though there are those that do not agree with you does your opinion weigh more than theirs? You refuse to compromise as apparently does HTC how do you realistically expect this to end?
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player friendly.
Word! If feels like we are "tolerated" to play Aces High, even tho we are paying customers. Reminds me some big companies with a monopoly. It also feels like HTC doesn't give 2 damns about the glaring gameplay issues we encounter every day in the Arenas.
Communication is what we need, like well written sticky posts, not some borderline condescending answer in the corner of a random thread from 2009.
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:rofl
Word! If feels like we are "tolerated" to play Aces High, even tho we are paying customers. Reminds me some big companies with a monopoly. It also feels like HTC doesn't give 2 damns about the glaring gameplay issues we encounter every day in the Arenas.
Communication is what we need, like well written sticky posts, not some borderline condescending answer in the corner of a random thread from 2009.
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Word! If feels like we are "tolerated" to play Aces High, even tho we are paying customers. Reminds me some big companies with a monopoly. It also feels like HTC doesn't give 2 damns about the glaring gameplay issues we encounter every day in the Arenas.
Communication is what we need, like well written sticky posts, not some borderline condescending answer in the corner of a random thread from 2009.
ALso spamming the boards with the same topic repeatedly is not effective communication.
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You choose to participate in one part of the game, that is your choice. The powers tha be have chosen to keep it a 12 hour rule. When you are unwilling to change why sould HTC be willing to change especially with the way some people are going about it. Making threats, and throwing tantrums when they don't get what they want., and yes that is exactly what this latest round of spamming threads about 12 hour rule is, a tantrum by an overly vocal minority of the AH universe. It may be a majority on the forums I don't know but you guys sure do squawk enough to sound like a majority.
Its not that I choose to participate in only one part, its that there is only one part that interests me in this game and that is fighters.
So what should I do then, when I log in and there are no fights and one flashing base on my country. The other two countries have epic furballs.
I should log out because in the next 8 hours it will be prime time and my squad will be on?
I should take up a fighter and fly an hour to the furball to possibly die within 2 minutes.. just for an hour flight again?
I should take up a fighter and just hover over an enemy base waiting for a single upper who after killing once never returns?
I should talk crap on 200 and state what base i am at and hope someone takes the bait and look like an dick because I can't find a fight?
there are many of us who log on and then log right back out because the 12 hour rule is holding us down from participating.. that is the point.
lets not argue this anymore dude I'm pretty sure people know where I stand and where others do.
I'm up for giving HTC a break the rest of the week. :cheers:
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ALso spamming the boards with the same topic repeatedly is not effective communication.
We are a group of individuals motivated by our own desire, not the borg. If someone doesn't see any answer he'll keep posting. A sticky from day 1 about side switch times and the reason behind it would have aborted the spamming. I still don't know what the official word is btw.
my 2 cents on side switching is that the MA is so dead at euro times that switching country may help people to actually enjoy the game, cause right now we are not, and we are leaving the game. I left the game but kept my account to support HTC, but given the lack of interest of the company for our problems I should stop my account.
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Its not that I choose to participate in only one part, its that there is only one part that interests me in this game and that is fighters.
So what should I do then, when I log in and there are no fights and one flashing base on my country. The other two countries have epic furballs.
I should log out because in the next 8 hours it will be prime time and my squad will be on?
I should take up a fighter and fly an hour to the furball to possibly die within 2 minutes.. just for an hour flight again?
I should take up a fighter and just hover over an enemy base waiting for a single upper who after killing once never returns?
I should talk crap on 200 and state what base i am at and hope someone takes the bait and look like an dick because I can't find a fight?
there are many of us who log on and then log right back out because the 12 hour rule is holding us down from participating.. that is the point.
lets not argue this anyone dude I'm pretty sure people know where I stand and where others do.
I'm up for giving HTC a break the rest of the week. :cheers:
I got ya just saying smashing a baddie base with a few buddies is a GREAT way to start a fight. Pigs do it all the time we break it if you don't defend it we take it.
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Do you realize how dumb you sound right now.
It's cool bro.. I didn't know I sounded dumb. I forgot to take into account who I was talking to. You win.
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We are a group of individuals motivated by our own desire, not the borg. If someone doesn't see any answer he'll keep posting. A sticky from day 1 about side switch times and the reason behind it would have aborted the spamming. I still don't know what the official word is btw.
Im just saying that spamming the boards and breaking the rules is not conducive to your plight. It just give HTC a reason to PNG ya, and at this point in time it may be wise to lay low, just look at a lot of AoM tag lines lots of free so and so' being put in tags right now.
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I got ya just saying smashing a baddie base with a few buddies is a GREAT way to start a fight. Pigs do it all the time we break it if you don't defend it we take it.
Looks like its a squad tradition to tell people how they should play. Air combat is not happening in this game.
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Im just saying that spamming the boards and breaking the rules is not conducive to your plight. It just give HTC a reason to PNG ya, and at this point in time it may be wise to lay low, just look at a lot of AoM tag lines lots of free so and so' being put in tags right now.
they don't give a damn. They'd rather be able to actually play with no BBS account than the way around. Spamming the boards seems like the only way at times, given the lack of communication of the owners.
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I got ya just saying smashing a baddie base with a few buddies is a GREAT way to start a fight. Pigs do it all the time we break it if you don't defend it we take it.
There are 60 of ya, lol. There is nothing in the game you can't break with 60 squad members and you all are nits 100%. You guys should get the 4th country by yourself.
That being said, you're always a good place to get action that's for sure
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We are a group of individuals motivated by our own desire, not the borg. If someone doesn't see any answer he'll keep posting. A sticky from day 1 about side switch times and the reason behind it would have aborted the spamming. I still don't know what the official word is btw.
No. Even the post I quoted by hitech leaves the impression it might be company policy.
It might be, or it might not be htc's stance today after 5 years, I don't know, but clearly the less said in their responses, the better. It gives them more options.
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Looks like its a squad tradition to tell people how they should play. Air combat is not happening in this game.
Nice try at misdirection if air combat is not happening, then maybe you are just giving up to easy. I nearly always find a fight as I have said before.
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Well, since I was sucked into posting by Shamus's YouTube link, here's the answer hitech gave back in 2009: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,272524.msg3409835.html#msg3409835
It's every bit as appropriate today as it was then.
Just got done reading that whole thread. WOW. :O All of this really is just a rinse and repeat of things. Slightly different topic.. same ways of complaining.
We should start a pool on what the annual "mass" whine will be about each year. Can reference that thread from 5 years for the tactics used and the end of the game predictions.
Winner who correctly guesses what the big whine will be for the year gets the pool. :aok
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a tantrum by an overly vocal minority of the AH universe. It may be a majority on the forums I don't know but you guys sure do squawk enough to sound like a majority.
It's impossible to call it a "minority" without polling or some sort of measuring stick. Vocal, yes, minority? Maybe, maybe not. Heck, we tallied 40 votes in Revo's thread and it was only up for three and a half hours before Hitech locked it for some reason, so I doubt it. If I had to estimate, the number of players that are passionately opposed to the 12 hr significantly outweights the number of players passionately for it. The number of players that probably do not care too much one way or the other is likely the "majority".
I say this again, calling people the "vocal minority" is just a catch phrase in an attempt to devalue their voice, nothing more, and is not based on any sort of fact.
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There are 60 of ya, lol. There is nothing in the game you can't break with 60 squad members and you all are nits 100%. You guys should get the 4th country by yourself.
That being said, you're always a good place to get action that's for sure
Changeup you know for a fact we don't usually get out stuff together enough to actuall ytake a base, just like to create a fight and it doesn't take 40, if you see 5 guys beating on your base do you not up to defend? If nobody does then take the base and keep doing it until someone puts up a fight.
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Just got done reading that whole thread. WOW. :O All of this really is just a rinse and repeat of things. Slightly different topic.. same ways of complaining.
We should start a pool on what the annual "mass" whine will be about each year. Can reference that thread from 5 years for the tactics used and the end of the game predictions.
Winner who correctly guesses what the big whine will be for the year gets the pool. :aok
Dude there is 3 years of this, which may be some felt the need to go to extremes. Not saying its right but its something to think about.
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Nice try at misdirection if air combat is not happening, then maybe you are just giving up to easy. I nearly always find a fight as I have said before.
We shouldn't have to invest hours of our time to try and create a fight. I've been there and did it before you even heard of Aces High.
The game is promoted as 24/24 action, and it is not.
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Changeup you know for a fact we don't usually get out stuff together enough to actuall ytake a base, just like to create a fight and it doesn't take 40, if you see 5 guys beating on your base do you not up to defend? If nobody does then take the base and keep doing it until someone puts up a fight.
When Syko or Waystin are on, yes you guys do. And, I don't blame you or them....it's a combat sim...I'm all for starting a fight and I've always liked the philosophy. But the 12 hour rule doesn't affect you guys is mah point.
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Just got done reading that whole thread. WOW. :O All of this really is just a rinse and repeat of things. Slightly different topic.. same ways of complaining.
We should start a pool on what the annual "mass" whine will be about each year. Can reference that thread from 5 years for the tactics used and the end of the game predictions.
Winner who correctly guesses what the big whine will be for the year gets the pool. :aok
Now that's the best idea to come out of this yet. hehe
Most of us oldtimers already know how these threads turn out so we ignore them, which is what I'm going to do now.
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It's impossible to call it a "minority" without polling or some sort of measuring stick. Vocal, yes, minority? Maybe, maybe not. Heck, we tallied 40 votes in Revo's thread and it was only up for three and a half hours before Hitech locked it for some reason, so I doubt it. If I had to estimate, the number of players that are passionately opposed to the 12 hr significantly outweights the number of players passionately for it. The number of players that probably do not care too much one way or the other is likely the "majority".
I say this again, calling people the "vocal minority" is just a catch phrase in an attempt to devalue their voice, nothing more, and is not based on any sort of fact.
Then why is the variance in who is actually being vocal so low? Go back look at all the post threads its the same people who are not the majority of the game. As I said the majority on the forums possibly but not of the ah universe.
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That being said, you're always a good place to get action that's for sure
Agreed
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Anyways have fun with your shrinking playerbase, please release the source code when the servers are closed so maybe someone does a better game with that great flight modeling.
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We shouldn't have to invest hours of our time to try and create a fight. I've been there and did it before you even heard of Aces High.
The game is promoted as 24/24 action, and it is not.
So you want something like Warthunder with its arena type system? Yes in AH you are going to have to fly to a fight .
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Snip
Yeah that's an adult way of going about it.
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The majority of the chatter about the 12 hour rule could have been cut off at the knees with a simple, "Hey dudes, we hear what you're saying. We'll look into it for the next update" or something similar.
They might be doing that already and want it to be a 'surprise'. I recall when me and tuton posted about the achievements wish, and HiTech said it was already in the works when we wished for it.
Same thing might be going on here.
Patience :cheers:
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So you want something like Warthunder with its arena type system? Yes in AH you are going to have to fly to a fight .
what fight? now is my prime time and I don't see any. The euro game is dead and HTC doesn't give a damn, that's what their communication is telling me. So I'm taking my money to people that care.
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what fight? now is my prime time and I don't see any.
At this very moment, there's one big fight up north between Bish and Nits.
Unfortunately, as a Rook you are just hovering over or bombing deserted bases without much reaction at all, for at least 40 minutes now...
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It's impossible to call it a "minority" without polling or some sort of measuring stick. Vocal, yes, minority? Maybe, maybe not. Heck, we tallied 40 votes in Revo's thread and it was only up for three and a half hours before Hitech locked it for some reason, so I doubt it. If I had to estimate, the number of players that are passionately opposed to the 12 hr significantly outweights the number of players passionately for it. The number of players that probably do not care too much one way or the other is likely the "majority".
I say this again, calling people the "vocal minority" is just a catch phrase in an attempt to devalue their voice, nothing more, and is not based on any sort of fact.
Revo's thread was biased from the get go.
There are two issues in side switch times that are totally unrelated. One is a player wants to switch side for his or her own benefit during peak hours and the other is off peak hours to balance out an imbalance with a small number of players. Revo rolled them together.
What ever is in the best interest of all involved is in the best interest of HTC. They know that or they would have never gotten this far.
At least let the 12 hour thing rest for awhile. Iit gets old after awhile no matter which side you are on.
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At this very moment, there's one big fight up north between Bish and Nits.
Unfortunately, as a Rook you are just hovering over or bombing deserted bases without much reaction at all, for at least 40 minutes now...
my earlier point has been made..
remember don't switch if you want to play with your friends during US prime time!
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remember don't switch if you want to play with your friends during US prime time!
You should be bombing towns instead of writing this. Its for your own good so you can have some funny fun picking that lone defender until he gets fed up of this. Then you can rtb, and count the funny fun kills you just had. YaY!!! :banana:
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what fight? now is my prime time and I don't see any. The euro game is dead and HTC doesn't give a damn, that's what their communication is telling me. So I'm taking my money to people that care.
It isn't that they don't care. It's that if they stick their neck out and talk to us, they are the ones they get their head chopped off, not us. HTC already has responded in a number of posts, 3 of which have already been locked in the past 30 hours. Because members of the BBS kept going and going, ranting on and on, rather than just calming down and evaluating HTC's position.
If you stand up and say you don't like This or That, then you have made your side on the matter known. If you back down or change your side, then how can people trust your judgement/opinion if you flip-flop? HTC doesn't talk often on things concerning their company so they can stay fluid, "like water". HTC knows many of the glaring issues in this forum, they have had to lock many threads that started on these 'issue' topics. Like Wpeter said, the more time they spend here locking threads and playing wack-a-mole, is less time they are working on the new engine.
I understand your frustration on the matter, and your want for HTC to fix it. Perhaps there is more to fixing the 12 hour rule than we know of. Or HTC has something new in the works that would trump the 12 hr rule, but are saving it for the new engine.
I think we as customers should be understanding to the hard working team of HiTech Creations. They are working hard for us to put out new content, and we complain and insult them and each other. Why not just sit back and be patient?
:cheers:
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You should be bombing towns instead of writing this. Its for your own good so you can have some funny fun picking that lone defender until he gets fed up of this. Then you can rtb, and count the funny fun kills you just had. YaY!!! :banana:
Just a question:
Why aren't you at this time...engaged in white knuckled combat...at that other place you brought your money?
And are you going to be bringing your keyboard too, anytime soon?
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Or HTC has something new in the works that would trump the 12 hr rule
24h? :noid
:bolt:
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:rofl
24h? :noid
:bolt:
:D
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If i were in charge it would be better :old:
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If i were in charge it would be better :old:
you have my vote.
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24h? :noid
:bolt:
:D
30 day rule!! :neener:
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At this very moment, there's one big fight up north between Bish and Nits.
Unfortunately, as a Rook you are just hovering over or bombing deserted bases without much reaction at all, for at least 40 minutes now...
This of course happens in prime time as well albeit not as often as you well know. It is happening more than in the recent past. I think this is more of a symptom of a falling three country setup in AH. Reducing switch times would only be a dirty bandaid that would eventually infect the whole game.
The answer is increased player numbers. HTC is pounding a way on the new engine to attract more new meat. Lets let them finish in peace then see what happens.
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The whole 12 hour complaint is just people whining because someone won't do what they demand. They won't play the way I want, blah, blah freakin BLAH. It's old, it's boring and it's NON-PRODUCTIVE. If it's SOOOOOOOOOO bad...LEAVE!. I have no problem finding fun to have in this game. Those who complain are the ones who do a limited spectrum of things, look at their stats. When my kids whined incessantly to get their way, it was automatic, no way. When a resident tells me...if you don't give me what I want, I'm moving, my reply is that's your choice. I won't be blackmailed, especially by those who seem to have the maturity level of 5 year old kids...mom...mom...mom....mom ....WHY? Why? Why? ad NAUSEUM. It's time for you to put your money where your moths are.... my bet is....you'll still be here 5 years from now.
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Just a question:
Why aren't you at this time...engaged in white knuckled combat...at that other place you brought your money?
And are you going to be bringing your keyboard too, anytime soon?
because I'm about to have diner ^^ I'm can't wait to log in Planetside 2 :rock
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because I'm about to have diner ^^ I'm can't wait to log in Planetside 2 :rock
Enjoy dinner.
:aok
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they are the ones they get their head chopped off, not us.
I get my head chopped off daily at work, for things not even under my responsibility. Hiding is not a good PR strategy. If things change tell us, if they don't, tell us also!
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I get my head chopped off daily at work, ...
The guillotine needs calibrating.
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The guillotine needs calibrating.
:) I'm off, the PR patrol told me to shut up.
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:) I'm off, the PR patrol told me to shut up.
Neh. Just surprising the noise still made from the headless types. :old:
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Then why is the variance in who is actually being vocal so low? Go back look at all the post threads its the same people who are not the majority of the game. As I said the majority on the forums possibly but not of the ah universe.
During presidential elections, polling agencies conduct polls with samples in the thousands of people range, sometimes 5000 or 10000 if it is a good survey and can determine the percentage each candidate has, +/- 4% is usually the standard deviation at 95% confidence level. I'm not sure if you thought they were polling all 400 million Americans, but I assure you they are not. A sample size is like dipping your spoon into your soup. You will likely pull out most of the ingredients and be able to come to some conclusions.
So I completely reject your premise that the AH bbs does not represent an appropriate and directly measurable sample size of the entire AH Community's sentiment. If 75% of the BBS users are against the 12 hr rule, then I assure you the actual population percentage against it are in the same ballpark. Could be 70% could be 80%, but it's in the ballpark.
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During presidential elections, polling agencies conduct polls with samples in the thousands of people range, sometimes 5000 or 10000 if it is a good survey and can determine the percentage each candidate has, +/- 4% is usually the standard deviation at 95% confidence level. I'm not sure if you thought they were polling all 400 million Americans, but I assure you they are not. A sample size is like dipping your spoon into your soup. You will likely pull out most of the ingredients and be able to come to some conclusions.
So I completely reject your premise that the AH bbs does not represent an appropriate and directly measurable sample size of the entire AH Community's sentiment. If 75% of the BBS users are against the 12 hr rule, then I assure you the actual population percentage against it are in the same ballpark. Could be 70% could be 80%, but it's in the ballpark.
I'm afraid I have to disagree.
Those polls are usually conducted by polling a representative section of the population or voters. When doing exit polls, the polling stations are carefully selected based on former election results to ensure as much as possible they are as representative as possible.
The AH BBS is a place where you have to sign up and to invest time to contribute. That alone already limits in some way the kind of players you usually encounter here with very active 'furballing' vet possibly overly represented. On top of that, a place like this one easily has some kind of "AH-political climate" (don't know to express this better in English) that may actually prevent many players of largely (perceived) deviating opinions (or adherents of deviating gaming styles) to spend their time and efforts here at all.
So it's probably more like readers of a specific magazine or newspaper, or the patrons of a certain bar or pub you are polling. Most probably not representative for the entirety of the public/voters at all.
One example coming to my mind are the plane polls of the past, As far as I remember, the real outcomes were quite different from the votes and opinions voiced here the AH BBS community. The B-29 would never had won the vote on the BBS.
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I'm afraid I have to disagree.
Those polls are usually conducted by polling a representative section of the population or voters. When doing exit polls, the polling stations are carefully selected based on former election results to ensure as much as possible they are as representative as possible.
The AH BBS is a place where you have to sign up and to invest time to contribute. That alone already limits in some way the kind of players you usually encounter here with very active 'furballing' vet possibly overly represented. On top of that, a place like this one easily has some kind of "AH-political climate" (don't know to express this better in English) that may actually prevent many players of largely (perceived) deviating opinions (or adherents of deviating gaming styles) to spend their time and efforts here at all.
So it's probably more like readers of a specific magazine or newspaper, or the patrons of a certain bar or pub you are polling. Most probably not representative for the entirety of the public/voters at all.
One example coming to my mind are the plane polls of the past, As far as I remember, the real outcomes were quite different from the votes and opinions voiced here the AH BBS community. The B-29 would never had won the vote on the BBS.
I respectfully disagree. You are implying that the polling of the BBS is fundamentally biased and not representative of the true AH population, as if the BBS is only geared towards players of a like-minded nature. I don't see why that would be the case. The bbs users in my opinion are just AH enthusiasts. In the game there is a hot tip that says "Did you know: You can discuss aces high on the message board...?" of something to that nature. All in game players have seen this. All are welcome. I see players from all styles of play here.
The underlying premise to your theory is players that are country loyal/want to win wars not fights are by nature, not concerned with the community aspect of the game. There is no plausible reason why these ideologies would be dependent on eachother.
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Just from my observation in the 68th..
We have roughly 30 members.. only 4 of us visit the forums with any sort of regularity. Of those 4 that do come to the forums, I'm the only one that comes to the boards for anything outside of the Special Events threads. A good portion of our guys are AH enthusiasts that play regularly but just have no interest in the BBS. They play the game and are more then happy with that.
So from my reality (perception), Snailman is of course correct (he always is :salute).
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Places with only a subset of the general population have the habit of creating their own 'culture'. That's why I gave the "pub" analogy. Just a genreal experience.
In all my years of AH I have encountered a whole lot of players, mostly from the "win the war" fraction, who basically ignore the BBS because of a (perceived or real) "furballing bias". Comparing the BBS and the actually in game gameplay and opinions the "win the war" types are very much underrepresented here, as they usually get shouted down quite quickly (often for good reasons, but that doesn't matter in this context ;)). Oh, they do exist here, but in my opinion not anywhere as much as in game.
And I think the plane poll example I brought up is illustrating that fact very much. There were huge differences between the votes here on the BBS and the actually vote in game. The BBS population vote quite different than the AH community at large, which shows that you can't simply assume the BBS and in game opinions on a certain topic are the same. The polls proved they aren't necessarily.
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See Rules #2, #5
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I rarely switch sides so the 12-hour rule means nothing to me. Many switch sides frequently and it is a bother. Some switch for the sake of spying, most for the sake of finding a good fight.
So the next level of discussion is spying. It happens. So now we morph the 12-hour rule into spying, which leads to shade accounts. In both cases, is it really that big a deal? Spying happens, weak fights happen. Of the two, which is the bigger concern? Clearly, weak fights.
In the business world there are a few sayings that matter. 'Go big or go home' is one. Another, 'you are either coming or going.' Clearly AH/HTC needs to up the ante or they will fall into the category of 'going home' and with it the only real flight simulator on line.
If the tradeoff is better fights for spy-tards, without a hesitation it is better fights. How many sticks have we lost in the past few weeks or months with the lack of action a problem?
The bigger issue is that of numbers. If we don't increase the numbers we will reach a tipping point. I've been around tipping points, they suck! Right up to the tipping point everything seems tight but doable, then suddenly the floor disappears and it is gone.
I know they are working on the new visual engine. Let's hope that happens rapidly and when it is launched they include a big marketing/advertising push. And when all of that happens I hope they address these "smaller" issues that have an impact on the community.
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All this teeth gnashing over this topic... Hitech has yet to say yes or no.. they've simply not responded. Easy enough to interpret that to mean they have other things to worry about then this. So take it at least as a "not right now" response. This has been brought up in just about every thread on this topic.
They are right in the middle of a development cycle. Folks are getting themselves banned for simply for not having patience.. all this doom and gloom just because HTC is busy working on the "next big thing" and not responding.
Take a breath.. go outside and get some fresh air. Heck, unsubscribe if you can't wait it out. Resubscribe when you can handle it.
The next big upgrade is right around the corner. This topic will be a minor one the day that upgrade or version is released.
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All this teeth gnashing over this topic... Hitech has yet to say yes or no.. they've simply not responded. Easy enough to interpret that to mean they have other things to worry about then this. So take it at least as a "not right now" response. This has been brought up in just about every thread on this topic.
They are right in the middle of a development cycle. Folks are getting themselves banned for simply for not having patience.. all this doom and gloom just because HTC is busy working on the "next big thing" and not responding.
Take a breath.. go outside and get some fresh air. Heck, unsubscribe if you can't wait it out. Resubscribe when you can handle it.
The next big upgrade is right around the corner. This topic will be a minor one the day that upgrade or version is released.
He responded in 2009
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The whole 12 hour complaint is just people whining because someone won't do what they demand. They won't play the way I want, blah, blah freakin BLAH. It's old, it's boring and it's NON-PRODUCTIVE. If it's SOOOOOOOOOO bad...LEAVE!. I have no problem finding fun to have in this game. Those who complain are the ones who do a limited spectrum of things, look at their stats. When my kids whined incessantly to get their way, it was automatic, no way. When a resident tells me...if you don't give me what I want, I'm moving, my reply is that's your choice. I won't be blackmailed, especially by those who seem to have the maturity level of 5 year old kids...mom...mom...mom....mom ....WHY? Why? Why? ad NAUSEUM. It's time for you to put your money where your moths are.... my bet is....you'll still be here 5 years from now.
Please show me where people were threatening to quit? And I don't have moths.
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The whole 12 hour complaint is just people whining because someone won't do what they demand. They won't play the way I want, blah, blah freakin BLAH. It's old, it's boring and it's NON-PRODUCTIVE.
Those of us that would like to see the switch time shortened aren't demanding it gets changed so people play the way we want. I really don't know where you get that but wherever you got that idea, it is wrong.
If it's SOOOOOOOOOO bad...LEAVE!. I have no problem finding fun to have in this game. Those who complain are the ones who do a limited spectrum of things, look at their stats.
Again, a very myopic view you have and again, completely wrong. You'll notice that the spectrum of players that want the time shortened represent players of every type and not just limited to the 'furballers'. I usually have no problems finding a fight but last night I logged off because for the Knits, there was literally nothing to fight as all the Rooks and Bishops were fighting up in the northern islands for the map reset. BBaw and I had to resort to flying 2.5 sectors and crash the Rookie mission that was hitting the Bish base at A53.
In situations where I can't find a fight in the air, I then usually hop in a B-25H and go GV hunting but with the Bishops and Rookies only fighting up north, there was nothing to hunt. There weren't any GV battles in TT island that I could take part in. With absolutely no fights at all for the Knits, I logged off and played Elder Scrolls Online instead. I would have switched earlier to either Bishops or Rookie side but I didn't want to be locked in on either of those sides for 12 hours, especially with the map being close to reset. If the time was shorter then switching would have been a much more viable alternative.
When my kids whined incessantly to get their way, it was automatic, no way. When a resident tells me...if you don't give me what I want, I'm moving, my reply is that's your choice. I won't be blackmailed, especially by those who seem to have the maturity level of 5 year old kids...mom...mom...mom....mom ....WHY? Why? Why? ad NAUSEUM. It's time for you to put your money where your moths are.... my bet is....you'll still be here 5 years from now.
I don't agree with the tactics some have employed on the forums to get the change made to the switch times, bullying the developer isn't a very good idea or productive and usually results in the wish being dismissed or ignored. However, your post wasn't really all that different from the others, it only inflames the situation even more.
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To original poster: :aok
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He responded in 2009
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sounds like HiTech knew planking was going to become a thing with all those people getting board.
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That's cool if you don't accept it but spamming the issue all over the threads probably isn't the brightest of ideas at this time. I really find it hard to believe their was never a response to this topic that has been popping up for so long. Even if it was 'cuz its my game' or something like that just deal with it. I have played late night and yes there can be dull periods but I always , always managed to find a fight. DId I pick the guys that upped right over the end of the runway? Nope I let them get alt so we had a good fight which made them come back as they were also looking for a fight not to get pick .024 nanoseconds after their gear was up.
the reason for the 12 hour switch was explained by high tech long ago some just refuse the deal with it, he said before the arena split there was a 12 hour switch rule it, when the arenas split into two late war arenas they changed the side switch time too I think it was an hour. now when they got rid of the two late war arenas and combined them into one arena like before the split it reverted back to the original 12 hour side switch time. BUT some just can't deal with it.
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the reason for the 12 hour switch was explained by high tech long ago some just refuse the deal with it, he said before the arena split there was a 12 hour switch rule it, when the arenas split into two late war arenas they changed the side switch time too I think it was an hour. now when they got rid of the two late war arenas and combined them into one arena like before the split it reverted back to the original 12 hour side switch time. BUT some just can't deal with it.
So it used to arbitrarily be set at 12 hours, then when the arena was split, it was arbitarily set to 1 hr, and then when we went back to 1 arena, since it was orginally arbitrarily set at 12 hours, it should be set back to the original arbitrary time. Sound about right hmm?
Why was the arena time set to 1 hr in the first place after the split? And why 1 hr? If you double the capacity of arena shouldn't you halve the switch time to 6 hour if the 12 hour time has a mystical behind the scenes intent? Wouldn't the 12 hr rule with 2 arena make more logical sense since you would be able to switch arenas if you could not find a fight? You have twice as many choices as a player even with the 12 hour (ignoring the fact that one arena might be full since you could usually force your way in). If the rule was 1 hr time switch for 1 arena and 12 hr time switch for 2 arenas, that would at least make some logical sense. It's all backwards to me, and the difference between 1 hr and 12 hr is extreme. Why when doubling the arena size would the switch time be 1/12 the time? It's all very confusing to me. Were these switch times picked out of a hat?
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Just a question:
Why aren't you at this time...engaged in white knuckled combat...at that other place you brought your money?
And are you going to be bringing your keyboard too, anytime soon?
:aok what gets me is that you would think the 12 hour rule was tailor made for the 'it's about the fight' crowd. Cant go join the big green blob on the other front? I am sure you can find someone willing to 1v1 along the low pop front, just let the guy get some alt.
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We need some humor here ya go please +1 if you think it applicable to some folks behavior as of late, if not please be respectful and don't comment. :noid
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So it used to arbitrarily be set at 12 hours, then when the arena was split, it was arbitarily set to 1 hr, and then when we went back to 1 arena, since it was orginally arbitrarily set at 12 hours, it should be set back to the original arbitrary time. Sound about right hmm?
Why was the arena time set to 1 hr in the first place after the split? And why 1 hr? If you double the capacity of arena shouldn't you halve the switch time to 6 hour if the 12 hour time has a mystical behind the scenes intent? Wouldn't the 12 hr rule with 2 arena make more logical sense since you would be able to switch arenas if you could not find a fight? You have twice as many choices as a player even with the 12 hour (ignoring the fact that one arena might be full since you could usually force your way in). If the rule was 1 hr time switch for 1 arena and 12 hr time switch for 2 arenas, that would at least make some logical sense. It's all backwards to me, and the difference between 1 hr and 12 hr is extreme. Why when doubling the arena size would the switch time be 1/12 the time? It's all very confusing to me. Were these switch times picked out of a hat?
You ask a lot of questions which I for one have no answer for because I don't own the company. Now if I had questions like what you have I would either call up the company or fire off an email then wait for response, that's what I would do if I had a concern. should the time switch be changed ? yes. what should it be changed to ? that would be up to the owners of the company. what would I like to see it at ? 3-4 hr as a start then adjust from there.
all I know this is the only online gaming company that actually answers their player base sure it may not be as fast as one would like or it may not be the right answer as one would like to hear but they do.. try that with any other online games you may play computer or console, to them you're just another sale and have fun with their customer service.
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all I know this is the only online gaming company that actually answers their player base
Wrong, most actually communicate much better.
EDIT: a single example is how arena resets are handled, with a single warning given 10minutes before the reset? :lol Other companies schedule them and inform players of the plannings.
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Wrong, most actually communicate much better.
EDIT: a single example is how arena resets are handled, with a single warning given 10minutes before the reset? :lol Other companies schedule them and inform players of the plannings.
Souldnt you be somewhere? because I'm about to have diner ^^ I'm can't wait to log in Planetside 2 :rock
must not be all that great if you are back here so soon.
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Wrong, most actually communicate much better.
EDIT: a single example is how arena resets are handled, with a single warning given 10minutes before the reset? :lol Other companies schedule them and inform players of the plannings.
seriously is this the real question? arena resets happen when there's usually a problem happening with the game right now and they're fixing it that's why they have to reset the arena it's no big deal it happens in games. and the only other time you have the 10 minute warning is when the war has been won and there's no way you can plan that.
whenever they have had a planned or scheduled maintenance its always either been posted on their main webpage or as you login telling you what time the scheduled maintenance is to be performed.
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seriously is this the real question? arena resets happen when there's usually a problem happening with the game right now and they're fixing it that's why they have to reset the arena it's no big deal it happens in games. and the only other time you have the 5 minute warning is when the war has been one and there's no way you can plan that.
whenever they have had a planned or scheduled maintenance its always either been posted on their main webpage or as you login telling you what time does get drilled maintenance is to be performed.
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You ask a lot of questions which I for one have no answer for because I don't own the company.
And I didn't expect you to have the answer, since it is, after all, the million dollar question.
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Between 5,000 and 9,000 estimated game companies out there from what I could find, at least between 2002 and 2009.
Wrong, most actually communicate much better.
You know how most of them communicate? Impressive.
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thanks Bear, I forgot its was that on a map reset, not really on when that happens lol
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And I didn't expect you to have the answer, since it is, after all, the million dollar question.
To YOU its the million dollar question, the poll you speak of was that the put a +1 if you agree and don't say anything if you don't one? To me the real millon dollar question is when will the update be out. The time switch thing while I respect the fact and actually agree that compromise should be made, however badgering and attempting to bully the people that make the game, is not the best course of action. Infact, it's less enduring to me and others community than you think. I think there will be plenty of time to rehash this topic AFTER the update is completed. As has been pointed out quite a few times you don't know if this change is being considered, has HTC actually come out recently as said it will not? That gif I pointd out earlier sure seems more and more applicable.
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To YOU its the million dollar question, the poll you speak of was that the put a +1 if you agree and don't say anything if you don't one? To me the real millon dollar question is when will the update be out. The time switch thing while I respect the fact and actually agree that compromise should be made, however badgering and attempting to bully the people that make the game, is not the best course of action. Infact, it's less enduring to me and others community than you think. I think there will be plenty of time to rehash this topic AFTER the update is completed. As has been pointed out quite a few times you don't know if this change is being considered, has HTC actually come out recently as said it will not? That gif I pointd out earlier sure seems more and more applicable.
Resetting the arena switch time is already in the arena settings. It would take less than 5 seconds to change
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Resetting the arena switch time is already in the arena settings. It would take less than 5 seconds to change
Your basing this off Tankaces post about it being done in the AvA? Are we even sure that's the case for the MA? And I seem to recall it was 2 minutes not 5 seconds. Eother way like Nishi said earlier at this point it may just be a pissing contest, when I was looking for a reply even as far back as 2010 there were posts of 'what this again?!?' to requests for a change so from the get go it seems like People have been badgering about it. At this point Hitech might actually be letting you guys twist in the wind but spamming the forums every day, evey 2weeeks about the issue is just as bad. Sometimes its good to take breaks from the game I just took one myself with work and going back to school at 34 taking soo much of my time. If your unhappy take a step back, get a little separation and see how you feel in a couple weeks. Don't come to these boards, make a clean break and really think about what this game means to you.
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Your basing this off Tankaces post about it being done in the AvA? Are we even sure that's the case for the MA? And I seem to recall it was 2 minutes not 5 seconds. Eother way like Nishi said earlier at this point it may just be a pissing contest, when I was looking for a reply even as far back as 2010 there were posts of 'what this again?!?' to requests for a change so from the get go it seems like People have been badgering about it. At this point Hitech might actually be letting you guys twist in the wind but spamming the forums every day, evey 2weeeks about the issue is just as bad. Sometimes its good to take breaks from the game I just took one myself with work and going back to school at 34 taking soo much of my time. If your unhappy take a step back, get a little separation and see how you feel in a couple weeks. Don't come to these boards, make a clean break and really think about what this game means to you.
Yes I am and you don't have any idea either.
Please spare me the motivational. I don't need it. When you find out for certain that the arena switch settings are not done in the arena that quickly, you bring yourself back and post-up. Until then I'll take his word for it.
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Your basing this off Tankaces post about it being done in the AvA? Are we even sure that's the case for the MA? And I seem to recall it was 2 minutes not 5 seconds. Eother way like Nishi said earlier at this point it may just be a pissing contest, when I was looking for a reply even as far back as 2010 there were posts of 'what this again?!?' to requests for a change so from the get go it seems like People have been badgering about it. At this point Hitech might actually be letting you guys twist in the wind but spamming the forums every day, evey 2weeeks about the issue is just as bad. Sometimes its good to take breaks from the game I just took one myself with work and going back to school at 34 taking soo much of my time. If your unhappy take a step back, get a little separation and see how you feel in a couple weeks. Don't come to these boards, make a clean break and really think about what this game means to you.
So you are suggesting that all players that do not like the 12 hour rule take a break from the game and cancel subs? That's not a bad idea actually.
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so your entire argument and counter argument is based of a complete unknown yet 15 thousand threads and 1 billion posts are ok to spend on speculation? I'll say it again give it rest, this whole thing has gotten to be tedious not just for the direct actors but for the members of the community that don't care to voice their opinion directly on these threads. Fine people want a change, spamming the forums is not going to help your cause. The take abreak thing wasn't pointed directly at you changeup its for those that say they are not going to subscribe until they get results, that's the people im suggesting take a step back, go smell the flowers and see if a 12 hour rule, or no recent reply about the 12 hour rule is worth quitting the game over or not. If those pople truly wanted to make a statement silence and a hit in the wallet would be better(in my opinion) others have stated this also in much less compassionate fashion.
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So you are suggesting that all players that do not like the 12 hour rule take a break from the game and cancel subs? That's not a bad idea actually.
No Im suggesting those that threaten to do that , go ahead and take that break they promise us...er I mean threaten HTC with...err yeah. It will give you a chance to really see what the game means to you. Don't threaten to play the hand, go all in.
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No Im suggesting those that threaten to do that , go ahead and take that break they promise us...er I mean threaten HTC with...err yeah. It will give you a chance to really see what the game means to you. Don't threaten to play the hand, go all in.
Which no one has, but you keep saying that.
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No Im suggesting those that threaten to do that , go ahead and take that break they promise us...er I mean threaten HTC with...err yeah.
No I'm not suggesting anyone quit or threaten to quit, I was just being silly. I still have enough fun in the game currently, but not being able to switch sides cuts my nights short and is an extreme general annoyance because this is America and I was raised on this being the land of the free, par for the course these days I guess. The rule in itself is not enough for me to quit, besides the normal "burn out" breaks. I say that now, we'll see where we are at a month from now.
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the reason for the 12 hour switch was explained by high tech long ago some just refuse the deal with it, he said before the arena split there was a 12 hour switch rule it, when the arenas split into two late war arenas they changed the side switch time too I think it was an hour. now when they got rid of the two late war arenas and combined them into one arena like before the split it reverted back to the original 12 hour side switch time. BUT some just can't deal with it.
....and even before that there was this.... http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,187804.msg2176859.html#msg2176859
"Im on the low side A.
Switch to side b to find the CV.
now i can switch right back to side A
Also time limit is only 1 hour, and your country is save in each arena.
HiTech"
This was just after they had opened the EW, MW, and LW arenas instead of the single arena.
It's Hitech's company, but I would think they would come out with an official statement as to "why" it's 12 hours. The miss information can't be good for the company. If they post what they believe is a "valid" reason why they have the 12 hour rules then everyone has to accept that. Sure it may ding a few egos, but if it's official, its official.
On the other side of the coin I have been told that this game is ever changing and should continue to do so as different players come into the game. I have learn to accept that the game isn't played the way it was before. If this is to stay true, then why isn't the 12 hour rule susceptible to the same "changes" that come along with new players? Could it be that game play dictates that "what ever" reasons Hitech has for the 12 hour rules no longer apply and so it should be looked at again?
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Which no one has, but you keep saying that.
yes people have stated that is a reason they quit paying you guys have been much, much more active in these threads then I have. I am sure you are being disingenuous when posted that. No I am not going to go look for quotes I already spent over an hour looking for a reply from Hitech on this issue.
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No I'm not suggesting anyone quit or threaten to quit, I was just being silly. I still have enough fun in the game currently, but not being able to switch sides cuts my nights short and is an extreme general annoyance because this is America and I was raised on this being the land of the free, par for the course these days I guess. The rule in itself is not enough for me to quit, besides the normal "burn out" breaks. I say that now, we'll see where we are at a month from now.
I never said 'quit' I said 'take a break' and really think about what the game means to you. Dont come to thee forums just make a clean break see how you feel about the game after 2 weeks. Look some tried spamming the boards and being pests for resolution some are threating to cancel subs and some have already done so as they feel the game is not friendly to them, all I am saying is don't go half hearted into a break, go all in take a real break see how you feel at the end of 2 weeks.
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I never said 'quit' I said 'take a break' and really think about what the game means to you. Dont come to thee forums just make a clean break see how you feel about the game after 2 weeks. Look some tried spamming the boards and being pests for resolution some are threating to cancel subs and some have already done so as they feel the game is not friendly to them, all I am saying is don't go half hearted into a break, go all in take a real break see how you feel at the end of 2 weeks.
He just came off of a three year break dood. Give it a rest with the take a break routine
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No I'm not suggesting anyone quit or threaten to quit, I was just being silly. I still have enough fun in the game currently, but not being able to switch sides cuts my nights short and is an extreme general annoyance because this is America and I was raised on this being the land of the free, par for the course these days I guess. The rule in itself is not enough for me to quit, besides the normal "burn out" breaks. I say that now, we'll see where we are at a month from now.
You are completely free to play this product AS IS, when people are spamming the boards ad blatantly violating rules THAT is not what they are free to do.
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yes people have stated that is a reason they quit paying you guys have been much, much more active in these threads then I have. I am sure you are being disingenuous when posted that. No I am not going to go look for quotes I already spent over an hour looking for a reply from Hitech on this issue.
I was quite serious, I have not seen anyone say they were going to quit unless. Some may have quit because of it, I don't know, but if you haven't kept up on the threads you shouldn't make statements like you have read them.
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He just came off of a three year break dood. Give it a rest with the take a break routine
And launches straight into this campaign? give the 12 hour rule spams a break. Send emails if you want or pms to the HTC guys instead. It would probably serve better. THAT is my main argument here not whether or not the 12 hour rule is justified. Have you even been reading my posts completely or are you giving me 'not semp, but close' treatment? :D
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I was quite serious, I have not seen anyone say they were going to quit unless. Some may have quit because of it, I don't know, but if you haven't kept up on the threads you shouldn't make statements like you have read them.
I have read the threads enough to see the threats. I was pointing out if I noticed them surely you did too.
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I have read the threads enough to see the threats. I was pointing out if I noticed them surely you did too.
I read them all and no I didn't see anyone threaten anything. The funny thing is you're keeping the 12 hr convo alive ;)
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I read them all and no I didn't see anyone threaten anything. The funny thing is you're keeping the 12 hr convo alive ;)
IM just getting it outta my system. I have dinner soon then Ill go play some planetside2. Also I'll shush about the 12 hr rule if everyone else does to. And Ill fly the p-38 exclusively for a month.or anyplane of the communities choosing.
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Resetting the arena switch time is already in the arena settings. It would take less than 5 seconds to change
Your basing this off Tankaces post about it being done in the AvA? Are we even sure that's the case for the MA? And I seem to recall it was 2 minutes not 5 seconds.
Yes I am and you don't have any idea either.
I know exactly how long it takes. But knowing that it takes only a couple of seconds change the side-switch time is irrelevant. The side switch time is set by HTC, and it's their decision as too how long it should be.
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Plzzzzzzzzzz let this subject go :bhead
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I know exactly how long it takes. But knowing that it takes only a couple of seconds change the side-switch time is irrelevant. The side switch time is set by HTC, and it's their decision as too how long it should be.
Thank you for your answer
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And launches straight into this campaign? give the 12 hour rule spams a break. Send emails if you want or pms to the HTC guys instead. It would probably serve better. THAT is my main argument here not whether or not the 12 hour rule is justified. Have you even been reading my posts completely or are you giving me 'not semp, but close' treatment? :D
3 day or 3 year what difference does it make? You're pretty tall in your seat to be telling people how and when to have opinions and whether or not to voice them. And truthfully no one asked you anymore than they asked him.
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common sense suggest that if the owners of the company set the time switch limit to 12 hrs well then its 12 hrs , so deal with it and go play the game....some folks are beginning to act like gnats
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3 day or 3 year what difference does it make? You're pretty tall in your seat to be telling people how and when to have opinions and whether or not to voice them. And truthfully no one asked you anymore than they asked him.
and no one asked you so give it a rest. And this is not a suggestion.
HiTech
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We're taking a look at adjusting the side switch timer, guys. Bear with us. We've got a few irons in the fire right now.
Go jump off a bridge. We're keeping the side switch duration at 12 hours.
Either of these answers in any one of the recent threads would have gone a long way to putting this issue to rest.
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I think it's awesome Hammy is spamming this thread in an effort to stop everyone from spamming the board about the 12 hour rule.. :rock
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common sense suggest that if the owners of the company set the time switch limit to 12 hrs well then its 12 hrs , so deal with it and go play the game....some folks are beginning to act like gnats
Some peoples game play will NOT allow them to deal with it. There are a bunch of guys that switch to the low numbers side to help them out. Its called "balancing game play". And all of the guys I know and have played with do NOT switch to be "spies". We go to the horde of cappers and vulchers and clear them out. We hold no loyalty to any one of the cartoon chess pieces. I remember times when Kappa, Myself, grizz, skyrock and maybe one or two others would switch, fly in to the blob of red 20 + and come out on top. Thats how we have fun. We like the numbers against us, not with us. And to have it set at 12 hours is a hindrance in our gameplay, therefore we cant just deal with it. Its how we have always played the game.
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It's kinda simple. This game was better before the 12 hour rule. It's hard to justify spending money on a game that's going backwards. Aces high has never relied on a matchmaking system. That's a problem when one front shuts down for the night. I want toys to break, and I'm not gonna find them unless I fly for a hour to the other front. No thanks I'll just log.
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Some peoples game play will NOT allow them to deal with it. There are a bunch of guys that switch to the low numbers side to help them out. Its called "balancing game play". And all of the guys I know and have played with do NOT switch to be "spies". We go to the horde of cappers and vulchers and clear them out. We hold no loyalty to any one of the cartoon chess pieces. I remember times when Kappa, Myself, grizz, skyrock and maybe one or two others would switch, fly in to the blob of red 20 + and come out on top. Thats how we have fun. We like the numbers against us, not with us. And to have it set at 12 hours is a hindrance in our gameplay, therefore we cant just deal with it. Its how we have always played the game.
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well there ya go we have a conundrum i happen to like the 12 hr rule , which begs the question who is more important.......
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3 day or 3 year what difference does it make? You're pretty tall in your seat to be telling people how and when to have opinions and whether or not to voice them. And truthfully no one asked you anymore than they asked him.
I have merely suggested people act on what they are threating to be their next tactic after spamming the threads repeatedly.
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well there ya go we have a conundrum i happen to like the 12 hr rule , which begs the question who is more important.......
Nothing wrong with that, but what do you like about it might I ask? And would you prefer it to be 24 hour or a month if you were King? Or do you think 12 hours is just right, like Goldilocks and the 3 bears?
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I think it's awesome Hammy is spamming this thread in an effort to stop everyone from spamming the board about the 12 hour rule.. :rock
your right I done, I started by mearly suggesting hat spamming multiple threads about the same subject only to see them lock may not be the best thing to do right now, but what ever. Have at it.
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Nothing wrong with that, but what do you like about it might I ask? And would you prefer it to be 24 hour or a month if you were King? Or do you think 12 hours is just right, like Goldilocks and the 3 bears?
Give it a rest grizz
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well there ya go we have a conundrum i happen to like the 12 hr rule , which begs the question who is more important.......
This isn't about whose opinion is more important. So lets not go down that road. Your opinion is as important as anyone elses.
I admit that the way this has gone about is completely wrong. I can see how Roy and Dale can be frustrated with the situation, but I also see the frustration within the players that want the change. I can see where players who only base take dont want it. I see all sides. And all opinions are valuable if presented the right way.
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I'm not willing to pay 15 atm,to each his own.
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Like Revo I will hold the door open for you also :bolt:
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Maybe it is working more then you know.
And as you already stated,im playing my ONLY card, not re subing till this place gets more player friendly.
I did not ever say i canceled my account because only of the 12 hour rule btw.
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100% STUPID reason, if you cant find a fight in this game your and many others are 100% BLIND!
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100% STUPID reason, if you cant find a fight in this game your and many others are 100% BLIND!
He cant reply, so do yourself a favor and us, Stop replying to him trying to keep the argument going, please. And thank you.
Lets all try to be civil about this.
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Please show me where people were threatening to quit? And I don't have moths.
I was quite serious, I have not seen anyone say they were going to quit unless. Some may have quit because of it, I don't know, but if you haven't kept up on the threads you shouldn't make statements like you have read them.
We tried sugar,its not working.I canceled my account 1 week ago,i wont be coming back till this place gets more player friendly.
what fight? now is my prime time and I don't see any. The euro game is dead and HTC doesn't give a damn, that's what their communication is telling me. So I'm taking my money to people that care.
"If you haven't kept up on the threads you shouldn't make statements like you have read them."
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He cant reply, so do yourself a favor and us, Stop replying to him trying to keep the argument going, please. And thank you.
Lets all try to be civil about this.
Trying to be civil, but gezzzzzz all you hear now days is slamming HT and how he runs his game, if I were him I would close the freking doors, that would shut them all up. Dale and staff have been doing a GREAT job form day one with the small staff they have and NEVER raised the price, very good entertainment for the price. Bottom line ...everyone now days want, want, want and most of the people CRYING about this or that NEVER say thanks Dale and crew for the fun you are giving us. The BS on the BBS maybe 1 reason I will go after 12+ years of playing. You all just need to grow up. Adults......yeah right :bhead
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Die stupid thread ....
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Give it a rest grizz
Heh. Reminds me of Uncle Joe.
Il2 production wasn't what it should have been. So Uncle Joe said to the pertinent aircraft factory managers:
"You have let down our country and our Red Army. You have the nerve not to manufacture IL-2s until now. Our Red Army now needs IL-2 aircraft like the air it breathes, like the bread it eats. Shenkman produces one IL-2 a day and Tretyakov builds one or two MiG-3s daily. It is a mockery of our country and the Red Army. I ask you not to try the government's patience, and demand that you manufacture more ILs. This is my final warning."
- oldman
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Trying to be civil, but gezzzzzz all you hear now days is slamming HT and how he runs his game, if I were him I would close the freking doors, that would shut them all up. Dale and staff have been doing a GREAT job form day one with the small staff they have and NEVER raised the price, very good entertainment for the price. Bottom line ...everyone now days want, want, want and most of the people CRYING about this or that NEVER say thanks Dale and crew for the fun you are giving us. The BS on the BBS maybe 1 reason I will go after 12+ years of playing. You all just need to grow up. Adults......yeah right :bhead
As someone who helps run a multi million dollar company (not mine). With any business there is criticism no matter what you do. You will always have happy and unhappy customers. Closing the doors just to spite your customers is a really childish/business suicide move. So while you brought up the acting like an adult thing. Lets do that. Shall we?
At no time have I bashed anyone at HTC. I have simply said that the 12 hour change was a bad move. But that is only my opinion, not a fact. After playing and being around this game all the years I have, I am pretty sure HTC will come up with something.
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Nothing wrong with that, but what do you like about it might I ask? And would you prefer it to be 24 hour or a month if you were King? Or do you think 12 hours is just right, like Goldilocks and the 3 bears?
it is what it is Grizz......i like the game and people or i wouldn't be here
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See Rule #4
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Fall back, guys. This isn't WWII. Guys? Hey guys ... this isn't funny.
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See Rule #4 (quoted content)
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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lol Arlo you crack me up always there with the one liners :rofl like a Clint Eastwood movie.
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See Rule #4 (quoted content)
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Ah, well then case closed I suppose. Guess I'll take off this flight suit and goggles.
I'm going to keep my flight diaper on, I've grown very fond of it. :old:
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"If you haven't kept up on the threads you shouldn't make statements like you have read them."
These are not threats, which was what we were talking about. We were discussing the 12 hr rule not customer service complaints.
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These are not threats, which was what we were talking about. We were discussing the 12 hr rule not customer service complaints.
They were both in this very thread and both in response to the 12 hour rule discussion.
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They were both in this very thread and both in response to the 12 hour rule discussion.
They still aren't threats.
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They still aren't threats.
Sure they are. They're threats that HTC will see no more of their money until the rule is changed. Granted that a $15/month threat isn't much of a threat but it's still a threat nonetheless.
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Sure they are. They're threats that HTC will see no more of their money until the rule is changed. Granted that a $15/month threat isn't much of a threat but it's still a threat nonetheless.
You do know what a threat is right? Nuke wasn't even talking about the 12 hr rule and Sunka said he already quit so where's the threat?
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You do know what a threat is right?
Yes I do. Evidently you don't.
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Yes I do. Evidently you don't.
Apparently you don't either if those are what you call "threats".
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Sunka was landing kills 30 min ago welcome back sunka :salute
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I thought that was him.
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I thought that was him.
LOL yep that Lil rook rascal
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None of this is about the posted content which gets abandoned by about the middle of page one these days here in the forums. It's about who can perform the hottest forum ACM by flying as close as they can to the bleeding edge of Hitech and Skuzzy's flame, each time a new line in the sand is drawn by them.
None of you would accept anyone doing that to your face in your own living room. I guess Hitech and Skuzzy are really just your slaves for a $14.95 entitlement in your collective minds these days.
Much of this can be headed off at inception if Hitech would introduce a new rule# to the forum.
-15 Too close to the bleeding edge of the flame.
The house rule. Is that the house is the rule how ever the house rules.
I've learned to trust Hitech and Skuzzy enough that this would be a last but, final resort.
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Breathe. Breathe in the air.
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None of this is about the posted content which gets abandoned by about the middle of page one these days here in the forums. It's about who can perform the hottest forum ACM by flying as close as they can to the bleeding edge of Hitech and Skuzzy's flame, each time a new line in the sand is drawn by them.
None of you would accept anyone doing that to your face in your own living room. I guess Hitech and Skuzzy are really just your slaves for a $14.95 entitlement in your collective minds these days.
Much of this can be headed off at inception if Hitech would introduce a new rule# to the forum.
-15 Too close to the bleeding edge of the flame.
The house rule. Is that the house is the rule how ever the house rules.
I've learned to trust Hitech and Skuzzy enough that this would be a last but, final resort.
Agreed. Their game their rules.
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Don't be afraid to care.
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We shouldn't have to invest hours of our time to try and create a fight. I've been there and did it before you even heard of Aces High.
The game is promoted as 24/24 action, and it is not.
While I must admit, I'm not on 24 hours a day, every time I have stayed up late playing (till 4 AM CMT) there have always been at least 40 in each country. :headscratch:
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While I must admit, I'm not on 24 hours a day, every time I have stayed up late playing (till 4 AM CMT) there have always been at least 40 in each country. :headscratch:
Lucky you ;)
During the week, this state currently is usually only achieved during less than 12h of the day
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Two weeks ago I was in the DFW area and paid a visit to the HTC office. Hitech gave a brief display of some of the new water/terrain...very cool stuff and not unlike what's been posted in the updates. I watched Dale at work and let me say, what he does is tedious stuff. The situation is no less demanding for Skuzzy.
It's safe to say that HTC is aware of the side switch time demands/complaints/suggestions, which have overtaken the general discussion forum of late. Each time Hitech or Skuzzy have to deal with a distraction on the BBS, less work is applied to the game re-write. I for one would like to see the game progress continue unfettered. Can we just leave the drama behind and let these folks do their' work?
You got that right Maxie! :aok
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Leave. Don't leave me.
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2 am PST Aspen(AMAX) and I still find air fights and GV fights. Some nights it's the bish, some it's the rooks. Fights are fights where and how you find them by that time. I've rarely seen any of REVO's voting block on at 2 am PST.
Earlier than that there are many opportunities to start fights or get into them. Just not the same type and opportunities as before 9pm PST time. I do see some of REVO's voting block on up to about 10pm PST. But, after 10pm the MA empties out to anywhere between 15-40 a side. If you are lucky, there are a few Aussi and Kiwi players who are pitbulls about re-upping to go at you, while having great attitudes about the whole thing. They make us americans and our antics look like a bunch of whiners.
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Look around, choose your own ground.
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it just sounds to me like there's not enough European players on maybe it needs to be marketed more heavily over in Europe, hard to find time to fly when real life priorities need to be handled first.
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<SIGH>
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I really like flying with the Aussies and Kiwis! :aok
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Just go toward the light!!!!!!!! Zaappp!! LOL that was for my buddy hitech there.. I hope that helps..
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For long you live and high you fly.
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For long you live and high you fly.
WTF?? Lol
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WTF?? Lol
Pink Floyd lyrics. Jay is obsessed with them
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WTF?? Lol
Brian knows why I am doing it.
Smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry.
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Smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry.
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be.
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For long you live and high you fly.
I prefer "For high you live and long you fly".
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I prefer "For high you live and long you fly".
And all you touch and all you see
Is not as real as it would be.
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Pink Floyd lyrics. Jay is obsessed with them
Ahhh...I like it
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Run, rabbit run dig that hole. Forget the sun.
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And all you touch and all you see
Is not as real as it would be.
And when I touch all that I can see
off to jail I go for indecency
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And when I touch all that I can see
off to jail I go for indecency
:rofl
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And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one.
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And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?
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And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one.
All day, every day
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For long you live and high you fly
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:huh
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:huh
:old: :joystick:
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:old: :joystick:
:noid
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:airplane:
:noid
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:uhoh
:airplane:
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:joystick: :airplane: :old:
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Statements like this always make me think of a Bill Cosby line from his old stand up routine "Let the beatings commence".
Go read this thread,
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361494.0.html
And see how well a response to the OP worked out, he is still screaming just like he did before I gave him a response.
Now do you think a response to you is going to work out well?
The point is many time we are damned if we do damned if we don't, many times we choose to say nothing because it is the less of 2 evils
HiTech
The "screaming" part really reminds me of my kids when they were eight and any time I chastized them for doing wrong I was always "screaming" regardless of the kind or mellow tone....as well as a similar response, but your kids are groing up and you will see that all in the Lord's good time. Have a great day.
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:huh
Hippies
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Two weeks ago I was in the DFW area and paid a visit to the HTC office. Hitech gave a brief display of some of the new water/terrain...very cool stuff and not unlike what's been posted in the updates. I watched Dale at work and let me say, what he does is tedious stuff. The situation is no less demanding for Skuzzy.
It's safe to say that HTC is aware of the side switch time demands/complaints/suggestions, which have overtaken the general discussion forum of late. Each time Hitech or Skuzzy have to deal with a distraction on the BBS, less work is applied to the game re-write. I for one would like to see the game progress continue unfettered. Can we just leave the drama behind and let these folks do their' work?
This thread should be locked in the interest of fairness.
But the lock should be delayed by 12 hours :)
JUGgler
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This thread should be locked in the interest of fairness.
But the lock should be delayed by 12 hours :)
JUGgler
Lmao!!!
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This thread should be locked in the interest of fairness.
But the lock should be delayed by 12 hours :)
JUGgler
As much as I would like to provide an assist, I unfortunately fouled out about 4 pages back and can only lead cheers from the sidelines now. Go Team Furball! :banana:
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But only if you ride the tide.
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Hippies
Hey damn it!! I cut my hair off and no longer use them there illegal substances. So back off muffin top.
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This thread should be locked in the interest of fairness.
But the lock should be delayed by 12 hours :)
JUGgler
That was good. Bravo :rofl
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5 hours since the last post?
Is this thread petering out?
Damn, I just got here...
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This thread should be locked in the interest of fairness.
But the lock should be delayed by 12 hours :)
JUGgler
naw, I think after 12 hours you should changeup your mind and agree that the 12 hours switch time is good for the game. after another 12 hours you can go back and say that it's wrong.
semp
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naw, I think after 12 hours you should changeup your mind and agree that the 12 hours switch time is good for the game. after another 12 hours you can go back and say that it's wrong.
semp
I think I lose IQ points every time I read a post from you.
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I think I lose IQ points every time I read a post from you.
now thats a good one lol
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I think I lose IQ points every time I read a post from you.
good thing you got more than one personality. never did like you in aces high, but you seemed so cool while we played in wot.
semp
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scuze me Muppets but am curious...
what does TWBYDHAS stand for?
I think the first few letters mean (T)iny (W)eenie(B)oys
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As much as I would like to provide an assist, I unfortunately fouled out about 4 pages back and can only lead cheers from the sidelines now. Go Team Furball! :banana:
Well atleast ya know the limit. Wish less folks would even look at the line, much less toe it.
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and balanced on the biggest wave, you race towards an early grave.
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and balanced on the biggest wave, you race towards an early grave.
I'll take what is Breathe by Pink Floyd for $1,000 Alex...... :rock
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DAILY DOUBLE!!
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I think the first few letters mean (T)iny (W)eenie(B)oys
Is that why you asked for an application?
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I'll take what is Breathe by Pink Floyd for $1,000 Alex...... :rock
:devil