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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Urchin on September 14, 2008, 06:30:25 AM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26691018 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26691018)
I know this isn't going to change any minds, but I thought it was interesting. I don't know if I am willing to vote for McCain with her on the ticket. To be honest, it doesn't matter who I vote for anyway, since Obama is going to win MD pretty handily, but I think I'll be voting for a 3rd party again this time around.
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<shrug>
I see nothing damning there.
Just another half witted rambling.
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<shrug>
I see nothing damning there.
Just another half witted rambling.
Again, why arent they doing this to Obama. Didn't Clinton appoint his wife, Hilliary, to oversee the socialist healthcare program that failed. I think she was making about $110k.
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Again, why arent they doing this to Obama
They aren't doing this to Obama because he is the Obamessiah. :rolleyes:
This is nothing but a smear campaign by MSNBC.
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Palin is a religious whackjob, and the majority of the people who love her are too.
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Palin is a religious whackjob, and the majority of the people who love her are too.
Ahh, the time tested argument that because one has religious beliefs that they are automatically whackjobs. :aok
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Ahh, the time tested argument that because one has religious beliefs that they are automatically whackjobs. :aok
:aok
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You're right, we have nothing to worry about from religious leaders.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm)
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You're right, we have nothing to worry about from religious leaders.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm)
And we have nothing to worry about from liberal socialists aka democrats?
*edit* The only source for this statement by Bush is from a private conversation with Palestinians? Arabs who continually invoke Allah in their every thought word and deed? That is just rich. :rofl
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Palin is a religious whackjob, and the majority of the people who love her are too.
The moron of the BBS has spoken. Go up a river in your canoe without a paddle.
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Lol, you're trying to say I'm a moron, right before you tell me "to go up a river in a canoe without a paddle". What an idiot.
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Lol, you're trying to say I'm a moron, right before you tell me "to go up a river in a canoe without a paddle". What an idiot.
You posted nothing of worth, actually you still haven't, but I did.
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As I was reading the article it dawned on me that I had read quite a few just like it recently.
I realized that if I switched the name Sarah Palin to Kwame Kilpatrick it matched.
Hiring friends, secretive government, firing opponents, heck. even a Mayormobile.
I understand Kwame is looking for a job, he should consider VP after he gets out.
shamus
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As I was reading the article it dawned on me that I had read quite a few just like it recently.
I realized that if I switched the name Sarah Palin to Kwame Kilpatrick it matched.
Hiring friends, secretive government, firing opponents, heck. even a Mayormobile.
I understand Kwame is looking for a job, he should consider VP after he gets out.
shamus
I hear barak wants to replace his.
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MSNBC is not the source of this article, it's the NYT.
I value this kind of investigative journalism. It's worth far more than softball interviews with politicians over and over and over again that you get from standard journalism these days.
McCain did a great job of locking my vote for Obama by picking Palin as his VP. I wanted to keep an open mind before that, maybe pay attention to the debates, but this is the last straw for McCain and his so-called "maverick" status and reputation for doing the right thing instead of towing the party line.
Let's see here, Gov. Palin:
Creationism in science class? check
Drill to energy independence? check
Abuses power for friends? check
No, I don't think Obama's perfect, but where the Republican party is going is just scary. :uhoh
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an article printed by MSNBC and written by the new york times... that can't be unfair or biased against her now can it?
lazs
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MSNBC is not the source of this article, it's the NYT.
Like the NYT is any better than MSNBC? Also, MSNBC has the article up on their website so they obviously don't mind smearing Sarah Palin either. ;)
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an article printed by MSNBC and written by the new york times... that can't be unfair or biased against her now can it?
lazs
:angel: Pure as the driven snow. :angel:
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Pretty revealing how the media and the dems try to destroy any woman or person of color who has a chance to make it big but defends white guys like Bill Clinton, and glosses over moral creeps like John Edwards just because they have a common political view. They also claim that Republicans are racist, judgmental, and want to keep women and people of color down. Seems like every time I turn around it is the reverse, with the exception of the empty headed senator from Illinois of course.
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yep.. if we don't want billary then we hate and fear women but if we like Palin we are stupid hicks...
If we don't want osamabama we are racists but if we want Clarence Thomas we are evil and stupid.
They decide who is woman enough and who is negro enough.
lazs
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You guys do realize that attacking the NYT does nothing to discredit the article, right? It's called an ad hominem. :aok
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just saying it is a new york times article discredits it.
In exactly the same way that saying it is a National enquirer article on aliens or monkey boys does.
The new york times came out and endorsed osamabama months ago and has worked tirelessly for him..
lazs
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just saying it is a new york times article discredits it.
In exactly the same way that saying it is a National enquirer article on aliens or monkey boys does.
The new york times came out and endorsed osamabama months ago and has worked tirelessly for him..
lazs
Wrong lazs. If the National Enquirer says "2+2=4," you better believe it. This is a matter of logic and reason, not politics.
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You're right, we have nothing to worry about from religious leaders.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm)
Unlike the athiest leaders who have murdered tens of millions. Them you might want to worry about.
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Wrong lazs. If the National Enquirer says "2+2=4," you better believe it. This is a matter of logic and reason, not politics.
Correct, and when the NYT say "they endorse osamabama" you better believe it. It's not logic or reason with them... it's POLITICS.
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Wrong lazs. If the National Enquirer says "2+2=4," you better believe it. This is a matter of logic and reason, not politics.
Facts are often used to distort the truth. Al Gore even used a couple (giving him the benefit of the doubt) to scare his GWA followers into repentance. Looking at only certain "facts" is not logic and reason.
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Facts are often used to distort the truth. Al Gore even used a couple (giving him the benefit of the doubt) to scare his GWA followers into repentance. Looking at only certain "facts" is not logic and reason.
Of course not.
But we weren't debating facts. I was pointing out an informal fallacy, which pertains to the rules of inference for a sound argument.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26691018 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26691018)
I know this isn't going to change any minds, but I thought it was interesting. I don't know if I am willing to vote for McCain with her on the ticket. To be honest, it doesn't matter who I vote for anyway, since Obama is going to win MD pretty handily, but I think I'll be voting for a 3rd party again this time around.
Unfortunately Urch, if one gets to that position, they eventually gain this mindset:
Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.
It is the nature of the business from our two strongest parties.
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yep.. if we don't want billary then we hate and fear women but if we like Palin we are stupid hicks...
If we don't want osamabama we are racists but if we want Clarence Thomas we are evil and stupid.
They decide who is woman enough and who is negro enough.
lazs
This from a guy who calls the Environment Protection Agency "scum bags".
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This from a guy who calls the Environment Protection Agency "scum bags".
And????
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I stopped reading when they brought up the same old tired BS that has been debunked.
I have no problems with firing state employees who stand in your way, she sounds like she has the balls Arnie here needs in Cali.
You obama supporters are such winey little girls.
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I guess I'd vote for Palin and McCain too if I thought I was going to burn in a pit of lava if I didn't.
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I guess I'd vote for Palin and McCain too if I thought I was going to burn in a pit of lava if I didn't.
To be fair, that's a great straw-man, or appeal to ridicule :devil
Ok, I'll stop now. Really. :o
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Reporter: President Palin, now that McCain passed on and you are president what are you going to do about russian and venezuela attempts to set up bases in Cuba?
Pres. Palin: I will pray to God and seek his divine deliverance from these great evils. Then I will talk in tounges and dance around wildly in the white house to seek his spirit. After that, I will call Putin and try and get the russian president fired. I will then push legislators to build a bridge to Cuba so that we can get our snipers down there to kill all their moose and carribou so we can starve them out. Then I will be getting ready for the Miss President World Beauty pagent. Thank you, God bless you, and slmnblmbslsmblsnslmbslbmslsnu blsuslnsmsuslms(tounge talk) this great United States!
:noid
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Reporter: President Palin, now that McCain passed on and you are president what are you going to do about russian and venezuela attempts to set up bases in Cuba?
Pres. Palin: I will pray to God and seek his divine deliverance from these great evils. Then I will talk in tounges and dance around wildly in the white house to seek his spirit. After that, I will call Putin and try and get the russian president fired. I will then push legislators to build a bridge to Cuba so that we can get our snipers down there to kill all their moose and carribou so we can starve them out. Then I will be getting ready for the Miss President World Beauty pagent. Thank you, God bless you, and slmnblmbslsmblsnslmbslbmslsnu blsuslnsmsuslms(tounge talk) this great United States!
:noid
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain were set a test with Russia's invasion of Georgia.
Here's McCain: "Tensions and hostilities between Georgians and Ossetians are in no way justification for Russian troops crossing an internationally recognised border."
Russia had "to immediately and unconditionally withdraw its forces". NATO should swiftly accept Georgia as a member, which would oblige Europe and the US to come to its aid.
Now here's Obama's camp: "It's both sides' fault -- both have been somewhat provocative with each other." The United Nations should step in and send a peacekeeping force under "an appropriate UN mandate".
LMAO UN :rofl :rofl :rofl
Edit: look sky no hypothetical needed.
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Palin is a religious whackjob, and the majority of the people who love her are too.
I don't think I have a religious bone in my body, and I think she's a good candidate... Certainly she is more grounded in real life and common sense than either Obama and Biden, who have lived their lives telling others what to do instead of doing stuff themselves. As a further plus in her favor, she is not a lawyer so she has not lived her life benefiting from other people's conflict. That is important, her not having the attitude that legal battles are a good thing.
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Palin is a religious whackjob, and the majority of the people who love her are too.
And you know all these people, right? That is an ignorant statement. A child might have said it.
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UN, NATO, or Jesus?
:noid
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And you know all these people, right? That is an ignorant statement. A child might have said it.
a child did say it.
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To be fair, that's a great straw-man, or appeal to ridicule :devil
Ok, I'll stop now. Really. :o
LOL!
Note to Anax : we're comfortable hashing it out on whatever level the opposition decides is the playing field. Since most discussions devolve quickly to the lower levels, get used to using a snorkel or bring your own damn air.
;)
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Lol, you're trying to say I'm a moron, right before you tell me "to go up a river in a canoe without a paddle". What an idiot.
No other person has to make that assertion, you do it for yourself all the time.
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I don't think I have a religious bone in my body, and I think she's a good candidate... Certainly she is more grounded in real life and common sense than either Obama and Biden, who have lived their lives telling others what to do instead of doing stuff themselves. As a further plus in her favor, she is not a lawyer so she has not lived her life benefiting from other people's conflict. That is important, her not having the attitude that legal battles are a good thing.
You framed her appeal exactly as I feel about it.
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You're right, we have nothing to worry about from religious leaders.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm)
I'll see your Sarcasm and raise you....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH5ixmT83JE
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No other person has to make that assertion, you do it for yourself all the time.
LOL yep, by far the most often blatantly wrong person on this board, his Airplane facts alone could have made a good joke book, or martin caidin book.
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No other person has to make that assertion, you do it for yourself all the time.
But he does it with such perfection................... ............................. ....
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Does a belief in God preclude one from participating in government...is that the new standard of the Left?
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Skyrock reminds me a lot of Arlo. Whatever happened to Arlo?
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Does a belief in God preclude one from participating in government...is that the new standard of the Left?
According to Whoppie Goldberg it does.
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Does a belief in God preclude one from participating in government...is that the new standard of the Left?
Only if one communicates with their God by speaking in tounges!
:devil
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According to Whoppie Goldberg it does.
another liberal that if elected dog catcher, would immediately begin to abuse the office.
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Only if one communicates with their God by speaking in tounges!
:devil
Your ignorance of religious matters knows no bounds. :D
Speaking in tongues was a gift from the Holy Spirit to certain members of the Church so they could communicate the Gospel to folks that didn't speak their language. It was never a way to speak to God, that is what prayer is for. :aok
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Speaking in tongues was a gift from the Holy Spirit to certain members of the Church so they could communicate the Gospel to folks that didn't speak their language.
I wish someone would ask her this question, "Gov. Palin, do you believe certain members of the church are gifted by God to speak in tounges so that the gospel can be heard by folks that don't speak that church's language?" :rofl
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skyrock, why are you so afraid of palin? Do you fear strong women?
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skyrock, why are you so afraid of palin? Do you fear strong women?
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/skilless/moose.jpg)
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Palin is a religious whackjob, and the majority of the people who love her are too.
Here's one for ya....F-Off!!!!
From your neighborhood whackjob.
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yep.. if we don't want billary then we hate and fear women but if we like Palin we are stupid hicks...
If we don't want osamabama we are racists but if we want Clarence Thomas we are evil and stupid.
They decide who is woman enough and who is negro enough.
lazs
Can I give you a hint....
The first word in bold that you wrote... is ...the 2nd word in bold that you wrote
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nationalism is racism?
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They aren't doing this to Obama because he is the Obamessiah. :rolleyes:
This is nothing but a smear campaign by MSNBC.
Bullcrap
Obama got his, now it's her turn, what goes around comes around, Reps just HATE that concept.
IMO she's garbage.
~A
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Can I give you a hint....
The first word in bold that you wrote... is ...the 2nd word in bold that you wrote
Can I give you a hint?
The origin of the term "osamabama" has nothing to do with race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APx2YJ-_jos&feature=related
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Can I give you a hint?
The origin of the term "osamabama" has nothing to do with race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APx2YJ-_jos&feature=related
ZOMG TED a RACIST??? Say it isn't so. :rofl
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Bullcrap
Obama got his, now it's her turn, what goes around comes around, Reps just HATE that concept.
IMO she's garbage.
~A
Show where the media went to this same trouble to try to smear Obama.
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Can I give you a hint?
The origin of the term "osamabama" has nothing to do with race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APx2YJ-_jos&feature=related
lol
of course it is
the frame of how it is used, is in a racial ..fear of the unknown...cowardly manner
it is a racist statement
link all you want - the truth is the truth
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lol
of course it is
the frame of how it is used, is in a racial ..fear of the unknown...cowardly manner
it is a racist statement
link all you want - the truth is the truth
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/aahome (http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/aahome)
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skyrock, why are you so afraid of palin? Do you fear strong women?
:roflI fear no pentecostal. :aok
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"Osamabama" has to be one of the most cynical and juvenile epithets I have ever heard. Trying to associate a presidential candidate with the enemy is as low and cowardly as it gets.
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lol
of course it is
the frame of how it is used, is in a racial ..fear of the unknown...cowardly manner
it is a racist statement
link all you want - the truth is the truth
It has to do with linking Obama to terrorist. They have no issues they can win on nor accept so they go for the mentally challenged crowd.
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"Osamabama" has to be one of the most cynical and juvenile epithets I have ever heard. Trying to associate someone who spent their life in public service with the enemy is as low and cowardly as it gets.
"spent their life in public service", you mean the boy never had a job? :O
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:roflI fear no pentecostal. :aok
Except....she hasn't been Pentecostal for 6 years now. ;)
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the boy
Where I work, that comment would get you knocked out! :aok
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Palin is a religious whackjob, and the majority of the people who love her are too.
I like Palin. I wish she were the the primary on the ticket.
I dont know if She is a religious whackjob.
She did veto a bill that would block the state from giving public employee benefits such as health insurance to same-sex couples.
Saying ""Signing this bill would be in direct violation of my oath of office"
Or even if the majority of people who like her are religious whackjobs
But the majority of religious whackjobs do support Palin.
that being said.
We have every bit as much to fear from the religious right as we do from the socialist left.
Each carries their own brand of tyranny.
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Where I work, that comment would get you knocked out! :aok
i knew you would pick up on that bait, but what about "the boys" experience, he does want to president of the united states of america don't he?
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I like Palin. I wish she were the the primary on the ticket.
I dont know if She is a religious whackjob.
She did veto a bill that would block the state from giving public employee benefits such as health insurance to same-sex couples.
Or even if the majority of people who like her are religious whackjobs
But the majority of religious whackjobs do support Palin.
that being said.
We have every bit as much to fear from the religious right as we do from the socialist left.
Each carries their own brand of tyranny.
The Spanish Inquisition, the pinnacle of Christian oppression, pales in comparison to the deprivations and brutality of the left/communists/atheists.
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"Osamabama" has to be one of the most cynical and juvenile epithets I have ever heard. Trying to associate a presidential candidate with the enemy is as low and cowardly as it gets.
how do you feel about 'osama binbiden'?
what's the problem.. palins a woman with a bible and a rifle, binbiden is an arab with a credit card mogul parrot on his shoulder.
in politics, one must choose the defining symbolism wisely.
;)
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i knew you would pick up on that bait, but what about "the boys" experience, he does want to president of the united states of america don't he?
Just saying, it is where you are coming from. I am against republicans for that one stance, albeit never spoken. :aok
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The Spanish Inquisition, the pinnacle of Christian oppression, pales in comparison to the deprivations and brutality of the left/communists/atheists.
Keep dreaming, the religious accentuate intolerance. :aok
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I dont know what was said in this but I'll tell you one thing. If there was ever a more Liberal/Leftist piece of trash it is MSNBC.
These rags are attacking Palins experience when she has basically the same amount of experience as the guy running for President on the Democratic ticket. If anything running a state is far harder, especially compared to a senator from IL. , all of whom basically spend their terms scheming and/or thieving.
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Just saying, it is where you are coming from. I am against republicans for that one stance, albeit never spoken. :aok
once again you side step the question, what about obama's experience? a community organizer? And he wants be president?
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bake sale specialist. Third class.
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Keep dreaming, the religious accentuate intolerance. :aok
Not from where I stand. The Bible tells us to love thy neighbor as thyself. ;)
As far as intolerance goes, look at the left wing media spazzing out over Palin and the left wingers on this board that are just as spastic over her. ;)
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How many were murdered by the Spanish during the "Inquisition" Skyrock? Do a little googling. Then google Stalin and Mao Tse Tung for starters. Then let's talk about intolerance, shall we?
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How many were murdered by the Spanish during the "Inquisition" Skyrock? Do a little googling. Then google Stalin and Mao Tse Tung for starters. Then let's talk about intolerance, shall we?
LMAO, You think the spanish inquisition is the only religious murder spree? :rofl
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LMAO, You think the spanish inquisition is the only religious murder spree? :rofl
so...tally it up. or find a link to somewhere that already has heck...atheists would never make claims without the data to back it up...would they?
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so...tally it up. or find a link to somewhere that already has heck...atheists would never make claims without the data to back it up...would they?
nah. but a dirtbag liberal would.
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LMAO, You think the spanish inquisition is the only religious murder spree? :rofl
When you say religious do you mean all religions or just Christianity?
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When you say religious do you mean all religions or just Christianity?
Since the only faith he has bagged on here in the O'Club is Christianity, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet to say he only means Christianity.
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once again you side step the question, what about obama's experience? a community organizer? And he wants be president?
Service to your country is a Republican value last time I checked. Obama could've made a lot more money with his Harvard law degree if he chose to, but opted instead to work for peanuts at something he believed in. Anyway, there's no doubt that his experience is light; lack of experience is spun either way by the pundits and politicians depending on whether its their guy or the other party's guy.
For example:
Experienced and proven leadership = Untrustworthy Washington insider
or you can flip it...
Untainted by corruption = Unproven, inexperienced know-nothing
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LMAO, You think the spanish inquisition is the only religious murder spree? :rofl
I doubt that Sum of the Popes + Sum of the Mullas > Stalin + Mao + Pol Pot
I mean Stalin = 20? 30? maybe 60 million?
Mao = 35? 40 million?
Pol Pot = 3? 4 million?
N Korea? 1.5, 3 Million?
And that was just their own citizens.
Last but not least, Hitler = btw 15 and 30 million handicapped, aged, sick, prisoners of war, forced laborers, camp inmates, critics, homosexuals, Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Poles, French, Ukrainians, outside of armed conflict.
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Service to your country is a Republican value last time I checked.
I'd say that's an American value, not a partisan one.
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Since the only faith he has bagged on here in the O'Club is Christianity, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet to say he only means Christianity.
Well, let's pin him down. If he is talking about all religions, including atheism, which has been determined to be a religion by a US court, he may be right. Maybe we should refine our persecution of religions and just denounce those inclined to murder tens of millions? Maybe we can give those who help feed and clothe the world's destitute a pass?
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Well, let's pin him down. If he is talking about all religions, including atheism, which has been determined to be a religion by a US court, he may be right. Maybe we should refine our persecution of religions and just denounce those inclined to murder tens of millions? Maybe we can give those who help feed and clothe the world's destitute a pass?
You'll get no argument from me. Pinning him down is likely to be rather difficult though, it's my guess that he will jump ship to another thread and troll there instead. ;)
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I'd say that's an American value, not a partisan one.
Can't wait to see the equivocation this statement will cause.
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Well, let's pin him down. If he is talking about all religions, including atheism, which has been determined to be a religion by a US court, he may be right. Maybe we should refine our persecution of religions and just denounce those inclined to murder tens of millions? Maybe we can give those who help feed and clothe the world's destitute a pass?
http://www.samaritanspurse.org/
My personal favorite charity.......
http://www.samaritanspurse.org/index.php/OCC/index/
Each year my wife and I try to get at least one gift box ready for a child.
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Go up a river in your canoe without a paddle.
With all due respect... what the hell does that mean?
I know the real phrase, but here, you just look loony.
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http://www.samaritanspurse.org/
My personal favorite charity.......
http://www.samaritanspurse.org/index.php/OCC/index/
Each year my wife and I try to get at least one gift box ready for a child.
You should look into the child's play charity started by Penny Arcade... They use the donations to buy toys and games for hospitalized kids. Emotional health is critical to recovering from severe illness and injuries, and this charity directly influences the hospitalized child's sense of well-being.
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Can't wait to see the equivocation this statement will cause.
Equivocation is a partisan value, not an American one.
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You should look into the child's play charity started by Penny Arcade... They use the donations to buy toys and games for hospitalized kids. Emotional health is critical to recovering from severe illness and injuries, and this charity directly influences the hospitalized child's sense of well-being.
Operation Christmas Child sends Christmas gifts to the poorest children in the world. Many of the recipients of Operation Christmas Child have never received a Christmas gift before.
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Operation Christmas Child sends Christmas gifts to the poorest children in the world. Many of the recipients of Operation Christmas Child have never received a Christmas gift before.
Perhaps because they are Muslim or Hindu?
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once again you side step the question, what about obama's experience? a community organizer? And he wants be president?
That wasn't the question, and you are a tard. I give you about as much respect as I would Farrakhan. In my opinion you are worthless and will be put in your place soon enough. :aok
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Perhaps because they are Muslim or Hindu?
Try kids in Russia, or Central and South America or Africa. :)
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so...tally it up. or find a link to somewhere that already has heck...atheists would never make claims without the data to back it up...would they?
He was trying to compare mountains and molehills. :aok
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:rofl pin me down? :lol I merely stated he only used on instance of religous murder spree. :aok
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He was trying to compare mountains and molehills. :aok
thats the point. he took a large, well known example of religious intolerance and persecution of people living within its own land, and it barely registers when compared to say, Stalin.
"I merely stated he only used on instance of religous murder spree"
and i asked you to add in as many as you felt necessary to make a comparable death toll.
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:rofl pin me down? :lol I merely stated he only used on instance of religous murder spree. :aok
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Screw you, bozo. Don't bring me into this.
now, take me home or lose me forever.
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skyrock, why are you so afraid of palin? Do you fear strong women?
Don't be silly, he fears ALL women.
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MSNBC is not the source of this article, it's the NYT.
I value this kind of investigative journalism. It's worth far more than softball interviews with politicians over and over and over again that you get from standard journalism these days.
McCain did a great job of locking my vote for Obama by picking Palin as his VP. I wanted to keep an open mind before that, maybe pay attention to the debates, but this is the last straw for McCain and his so-called "maverick" status and reputation for doing the right thing instead of towing the party line.
Let's see here, Gov. Palin:
Creationism in science class? check
Drill to energy independence? check
Abuses power for friends? check
No, I don't think Obama's perfect, but where the Republican party is going is just scary. :uhoh
Obama got where he is by being friends with an actual terrorist.
I think that's kinda scary.
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The Spanish Inquisition, the pinnacle of Christian oppression, pales in comparison to the deprivations and brutality of the left/communists/atheists.
I suggest you reread your inquisition. All 605 years of it
Which involved possibly up to 50 million victims.
Heres a crash course for ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx8PdvOELvY (warning. Its an hour long
Oh and ever wonder where that saying "We'll hold his feet to the fire" came from?
(http://www.cuttingedge.org/Inquisition_5.jpg)
And here are only some of the other cool toys they came up with.
All in the name of Jesus.
(http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/torture/breast.JPG)
The Breast Ripper
Cold or red-hot, the four claws slowly ripped to formless masses the breasts of countless women condemned for heresy, blasphemy, adultery and many other “libidinous acts”, self-induced abortion, erotic white magic and other crimes. In various places at various times –in some regions of France and Germany until the early nineteenth century– a “bite” with a red-hot ripper was inflicted upon one breast of unmarried mothers, often whilst their creatures, splattered with maternal blood, writhed on the ground at their feet.
Besides the punitive function, breast-ripping also served as an interrogational and juridical procedure.
(http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/torture/pear.gif)
The Pear
The pear was a device that expanded after being inserted orally, anally, or vaginally. It was used to rupture the sensitive membranes and tissues of these areas. With much of the damage being inside the body cavity, "confessions" thus extracted could seem to be freely given.
(http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/torture/heritic2.jpg)(http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/torture/heretic1.jpg)
The Heretic’s Fork
With the four sharp points rammed deep into the flesh under the chin and into the bone of the sternum, the fork prevented all movement of the head and allowed the victim only to murmur, in a barely audible voice, “abiuro” (“I recant”, engraved on one side of the fork). If instead he still refused, and if the Inquisition was the Spanish one, he was held to be an “impenitent heretic” and, dressed in the characteristic costume, was led to the stake, but with the consolation of the sacrament if extreme unction; if instead it was the Papal Inquisition, he was hanged or burnt, without the benefit of the pretty costume but still with that of proper Christian rites.
(http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/torture/judas2.jpg)
The Judas Cradle
This procedure has remained essentially unchanged from the Middle Ages until today. The victim is hoisted up in the manner shown in the accompanying illustration, and lowered onto the point of the pyramid in such a way that his weight rests on the point positioned in the anus, in the vagina, under the apple or under the coccyx (the last two or three vertebrae). The executioner, according to the pleasure of the interrogators, could vary the pressure from zero to that of total body weight. The victim can be rocked, or made to fall repeatedly onto the point.
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How many were murdered by the Spanish during the "Inquisition" Skyrock? Do a little googling. Then google Stalin and Mao Tse Tung for starters. Then let's talk about intolerance, shall we?
The "inquisition" was done by a hell of alot more then just the Spanish.
England, France, Germany. and even Rome itself took part.
the Spanish are the ones most associated with it.
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.. mel brooks? ..
nevermind.
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The "inquisition" was done by a hell of alot more then just the Spanish.
England, France, Germany. and even Rome itself took part.
the Spanish are the ones most associated with it.
How many were killed by the Assembly of God church??????
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not much difference between the two as I see it. :aok
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Palin is a religious whackjob, and the majority of the people who love her are too.
I never go to church. I love her political work. Care to jab with this with out whining to Skuzzy?
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Ok. What makes you think her political decisions are going to be governed by logic and reason rather than her thinking shes doing God's will?
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Ok. What makes you think her political decisions are going to be governed by logic and reason rather than her thinking shes doing God's will?
Perhaps her fiscal responsibility with regards to earmarks for her state that grew out of control that she no longer supported.
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I could also add that your belief of her "belief in God's will" stems from a prayer that she put forth in hopes that our elected leaders were truly doing God's Will.
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I like Palin; I am not a churchgoer. I'm not voting for McC, I'm voting for Paul or Barr. But I still like Palin.
Here's the problem for libs, as laid out by a lib; this is why Palin is well-liked by a majority of the voters:
http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/
Domestic Disturbances - Judith Warner
...No, it wasn’t funny, my morning with the hockey and the soccer moms, the homeschooling moms and the book club moms, the joyful moms who brought their children to see history in the making and spun them on the lawn, dancing, when music played. It was sobering. It was serious. It was an education.
“Palin Power” isn’t just about making hockey moms feel important. It’s not just about giving abortion rights opponents their due. It’s also, in obscure ways, about making yearnings come true — deep, inchoate (Note: for us unwashed red staters she means: not yet completed or fully developed; rudimentary. We have rudimentary desires unlike the sophisticated fully developed desires that she has. Hold this thought till the end of the quote where you will see she doesn't understand her own conclusion or suggested solution.) :) desires about respect and service, hierarchy and family that have somehow been successfully projected onto the figure of this unlikely woman and have stuck.
For those of us who can’t tap into those yearnings, it seems the Palin faithful are blind – to the contradictions between her stated positions and the truth of the policies she espouses, to the contradictions between her ideology and their interests. But Jonathan Haidt, an associate professor of moral psychology at the University of Virginia, argues in an essay this month, “What Makes People Vote Republican?”, that it’s liberals, in fact, who are dangerously blind.
Haidt has conducted research in which liberals and conservatives were asked to project themselves into the minds of their opponents and answer questions about their moral reasoning. Conservatives, he said, prove quite adept at thinking like liberals, but liberals are consistently incapable of understanding the conservative point of view. “Liberals feel contempt for the conservative moral view, and that is very, very angering. Republicans are good at exploiting that anger,” <Edit: Well, DUH! Most people do get angry at elitist axeholes! I hope she didn't pay the Associate Professor too much for that incredible insight! </edit> he told me in a phone interview.
Perhaps that’s why the conservatives can so successfully get under liberals’ skin. And why liberals need to start working harder at breaking through the empathy barrier.
This is the basic explanation of why the libs are screwing themselves into the overhead over Palin as Veep. :)
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Ok. What makes you think her political decisions are going to be governed by logic and reason rather than her thinking shes doing God's will?
It's a BS question. Your assertion that she "thinks she's doing gods will" is based on a misquoted snippet from a speech she gave. In fact, her reference to "gods will" in context was actually "I hope that our acts are carrying out god's will", which seems like a perfectly reasonable sentiment.
But of course, it's much more fun to twist it around to try to make her sound like a religious whacko. Which she is not. She made the perfectly reasonable statement that she hopes our actions are in accordance with God's will, not an assertion that she is in fact carrying out god's will.
If you won't admit to seeing the distinction there, you're either deliberately twisting the facts or hopelessly ignorant. This particular mis-quote of Gov Palin was so thoroughly debunked at least a week ago that even MSNBC isn't talking about it anymore.
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Ok. What makes you think her political decisions are going to be governed by logic and reason rather than her thinking shes doing God's will?
What the hell makes you think they won't? You libs are so scared of god stuff you make me wanna throw up.
Out.....
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OK. What makes you think her political decisions are going to be governed by logic and reason rather than her thinking shes doing God's will?
well lets see,
she has been doing a great job so far,
80% approval rating, the highest ever for any gov.
she has done every thing she said she would up to this point, and it has worked,
so no reason to believe she would change the way she does things if elected!
but I'll play along a little farther,
i don't go to church very often,
but i do believe in god,
that said , if she is doing gods will, I'm not sure i would want her too change now,
since it has worked out so well up to this point,
i do understand why others might not want her to continue doing such a great job,
why they might want her to throw her religion away,
and if she did, she would not be the right person for the job!
you don't have to agree with a good leader, a good person,
to know that they are good at heart,
that they mean well,
that they try to do good for others,
and you don't have to be religious to do those things,
but if she sticks to her faith,
then she will stick to other things as well,
and that's character
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The "inquisition" was done by a hell of alot more then just the Spanish.
England, France, Germany. and even Rome itself took part.
the Spanish are the ones most associated with it.
How about some sources to back up your absurd claims of 50 million? Other than youtube I mean.
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wait a minute... are you guys saying that I didn't start the osamabama thing? I know I was the first for osamabinbiden tho right?
anax.. years of public service don't mean squat.. in fact they should be punished if you make things worse.. the "communities" that he "organized" are they better off now? are we better off with him voting lockstep with teddy kennedy? I don't think so.
Dred.. we do agree.. I fear the religious right gaining too much power almost as much as I fear the socialists gaining power.. it is power itself I fear.. the fact that power corrupts.
I believe in individualist freedom. This means a very limited government.. government screws up everything it touches.. the less we have past fair courts the better. The less taxes we give them the better off we will be.
lazs
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wait a minute... are you guys saying that I didn't start the osamabama thing? I know I was the first for osamabinbiden tho right?
lazs
LOL... full credit is hereby awarded to Laz for binbiden and osamabama. LOL. It's on yer federal record. You betta hope his arab bellybutton don't make it to the white house.. our tulips in chairs at the IRS will be credited to you also.
;)
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wait a minute... are you guys saying that I didn't start the osamabama thing? I know I was the first for osamabinbiden tho right?
lazs
first time I heard either one, actually was from your oclub posts.
Gawd I hate when hes right. :furious
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It's a BS question. Your assertion that she "thinks she's doing gods will" is based on a misquoted snippet from a speech she gave. In fact, her reference to "gods will" in context was actually "I hope that our acts are carrying out god's will", which seems like a perfectly reasonable sentiment.
But of course, it's much more fun to twist it around to try to make her sound like a religious whacko. Which she is not. She made the perfectly reasonable statement that she hopes our actions are in accordance with God's will, not an assertion that she is in fact carrying out god's will.
If you won't admit to seeing the distinction there, you're either deliberately twisting the facts or hopelessly ignorant. This particular mis-quote of Gov Palin was so thoroughly debunked at least a week ago that even MSNBC isn't talking about it anymore.
lol
now this is rich
any statements made lately by Obama that have been twisted around?
Personally- I think Palin is a very intelligent - sharp witted - person, who totally believes that she is capable of holding the second most important office in the US, she very well may be... a lot of her statements have been twisted around, not only by so called liberals, but also by ultra conservatives to justify their own support... its funny how much of it is going on... but someone linked to an old thread from the last election.. I swear after reading that forum.. there are bots on this board.. a very active ultra conservative member of this board has not had an original statement since then..I swear a lot of posts have been copied and pasted here...it is just amazing the lack of debate.. and the total immersion in name calling and false rumors...
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How about some sources to back up your absurd claims of 50 million? Other than youtube I mean.
So far, throughout the entire Inquisition, (not just the Spanish Inquisition) I'm seeing total deaths of 5000 at most.
This is a good article on the Inquisition.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08026a.htm
The Number of Victims.
How many victims were handed over to the civil power cannot be stated with even approximate accuracy. We have nevertheless some valuable information about a few of the Inquisition tribunals, and their statistics are not without interest. At Pamiers, from 1318 to 1324, out of twenty-four persons convicted but five were delivered to the civil power, and at Toulouse from 1308 to 1323, only forty-two out of nine hundred and thirty bear the ominous note "relictus culiae saeculari". Thus, at Pamiers one in thirteen, and at Toulouse one in forty-two seem to have been burnt for heresy although these places were hotbeds of heresy and therefore principal centres of the Inquisition. We may add, also, that this was the most active period of the institution.
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Except....she hasn't been Pentecostal for 6 years now. ;)
Yet - because Osama attended a muslim school when he was a youth in Indonesia, that matters to you.....
go ahead..have your cake and eat it too
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Yet - because Osama attended a muslim school when he was a youth in Indonesia, that matters to you.....
Point to where I have ever said that matters to me.....please.
I'll be waiting patiently.
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any statements made lately by Obama that have been twisted around?
I wouldn't know. I don't go around spouting false accusations or repeating populist soundbites. You must have me confused with someone else, because I don't think I have ever made a serious statement on this board regarding something Obama said that was misquoted.
You're trying to say that my factual refutation of Shrimp's false statement is invalid, because some un-named third person made a false statement about Obama at an unspecified time in the past? Is that something they teach on debate team or did I miss the memo on how liberals win debates by making false accusations against anyone who brings a fact to the discussion?
:huh
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I wouldn't know. I don't go around spouting false accusations or repeating populist soundbites. You must have me confused with someone else, because I don't think I have ever made a serious statement on this board regarding something Obama said that was misquoted.
You're trying to say that my factual refutation of Shrimp's false statement is invalid, because some un-named third person made a false statement about Obama at an unspecified time in the past? Is that something they teach on debate team or did I miss the memo on how liberals win debates by making false accusations against anyone who brings a fact to the discussion?
:huh
In the short time Nwbie has been posting in the O'Club he has shown himself to be pretty proficient in slinging turds, even though said turds aren't even all that smelly.... :D
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Point to where I have ever said that matters to me.....please.
I'll be waiting patiently.
Show me the post where you as a concerned conservative - have attacked a post that has stated as such
There are plenty of them on here, show me one where you have said - hey thats not true....or relevant
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In the short time Nwbie has been posting in the O'Club he has shown himself to be pretty proficient in slinging turds, even though said turds aren't even all that smelly.... :D
Short time?
Just because I'm not a blowhard... needing to espouse my beliefs on everyone by posting ad nauseam the same thing over and over again...
Slinging turds?... lol
you are one the cow chip champs on this board...
I just call BS when I read it.. whether it is palatable to you ...does not matter to me ... swallow and spout what you want..
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Show me the post where you as a concerned conservative - have attacked a post that has stated as such
There are plenty of them on here, show me one where you have said - hey thats not true....or relevant
The old....lets turn it around on them! I didn't make the implication that someone has done something they haven't. ;)
I'm still waiting. :)
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I wouldn't know. I don't go around spouting false accusations or repeating populist soundbites. You must have me confused with someone else, because I don't think I have ever made a serious statement on this board regarding something Obama said that was misquoted.
You're trying to say that my factual refutation of Shrimp's false statement is invalid, because some un-named third person made a false statement about Obama at an unspecified time in the past? Is that something they teach on debate team or did I miss the memo on how liberals win debates by making false accusations against anyone who brings a fact to the discussion?
:huh
I just pointed out the hilarity of a post that pointed out a false statement about Palin... yet ...
I am willing to bet... that you have never pointed out a false statement made about Obama on this bbs....( don't bother i already looked)
Sorry to get ur shorts in a knot .. wasn't directed at you per se... just was intended as a general observation,, I apologize that i hadn't made that clearly. I suppose you read my whole post before you hit the quote button?
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The old....lets turn it around on them! I didn't make the implication that someone has done something they haven't. ;)
I'm still waiting. :)
So you admit your post was as the above?
The slinging turd statement... get to work ... your taking up space for the non repetitive people..
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So you admit your post was as the above?
What have I admitted to? :huh
Your posts don't make much sense.....
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Is this really all the small army of investigators airlifted to Alaska were able to dig up??? Hmmm.
Obama better resume running against McCain instead of Palin or he's gonna lose the shooting match.
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What have I admitted to? :huh
Your posts don't make much sense.....
The old....lets turn it around on them! I didn't make the implication that someone has done something they haven't.
Here
I bolded it - and highlited it in red for you...i could send you a crayon to color the background too if you want
I'm getting quite bored with it Elfie...
You get called on something.. i can link the posts if you want. but I won't cuz i'm bored with it... then you sheepishly throw up a smiley and make some off the cuff dismisive remark...
it is not a debate to mud sling.. to post 5000 times ..the same thing over and over again... does not make you a profoundly wise person..
just someone who needs to find other ways to express themself...
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geeze, nwbie, you take a swipe at the guys post count, use sweeping statements to attempt to qualify the guy as a dolt.. all as evidence of how bored you are with all this.
quality argument yah got there, bub.
The guy normally takes the high road when insulted about his religious beliefs, maintains a level head when takling about religion, politics, foreign relations, etc and manages to not come off like an arrogant bellybutton with a liberal stick stuffed up his arse.
Guess what you sound like?
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I initially said:
Except....she hasn't been Pentecostal for 6 years now.
Nwbie says:
Yet - because Osama attended a muslim school when he was a youth in Indonesia, that matters to you.....
go ahead..have your cake and eat it too
Is this not a perfect example of an Ad Hominem attack?
A (fallacious) ad hominem argument has the basic form:
Person A makes claim X
There is something objectionable about Person A
Therefore claim X is false
Or am I misunderstanding the definition of Ad Hominem? :)
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The old....lets turn it around on them! I didn't make the implication that someone has done something they haven't.
Here
I bolded it - and highlited it in red for you...i could send you a crayon to color the background too if you want
I'm getting quite bored with it Elfie...
You get called on something.. i can link the posts if you want. but I won't cuz i'm bored with it... then you sheepishly throw up a smiley and make some off the cuff dismisive remark...
it is not a debate to mud sling.. to post 5000 times ..the same thing over and over again... does not make you a profoundly wise person..
just someone who needs to find other ways to express themself...
You start the attack on me and now your are bored with it? :rofl
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geeze, nwbie, you take a swipe at the guys post count, use sweeping statements to attempt to qualify the guy as a dolt.. all as evidence of how bored you are with all this.
quality argument yah got there, bub.
The guy normally takes the high road when insulted about his religious beliefs, maintains a level head when takling about religion, politics, foreign relations, etc and manages to not come off like an arrogant bellybutton with a liberal stick stuffed up his arse.
Guess what you sound like?
you?
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You start the attack on me and now your are bored with it? :rofl
Jeez there you go again with the smileys
I attacked you?
Talk about turning it around...maybe you have add... read the thread over again and see who attacked who first
Yes I'm bored with your turn it around crap
Almost as bad as hangtime ... he is like that annoying poodle that waits til you turn around and starts nipping on your heel and barking
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...and does unspeakable things to your Kewpie doll.
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Jeez there you go again with the smileys
I attacked you?
Talk about turning it around...maybe you have add... read the thread over again and see who attacked who first
Yes I'm bored with your turn it around crap
Almost as bad as hangtime ... he is like that annoying poodle that waits til you turn around and starts nipping on your heel and barking
Ok, you are getting to be almost as good of entertainment as Skyrock. :rofl
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Ok, you are getting to be almost as good of entertainment as Skyrock. :rofl
glad i amuse you...guess it is easier than actually having something worthwhile to say
laffing it off is a good trick...just that most people realize it is a sign of a weak point
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glad i amuse you...guess it is easier than actually having something worthwhile to say
laffing it off is a good trick...just that most people realize it is a sign of a weak point
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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geeze, nwbie, you take a swipe at the guys post count, use sweeping statements to attempt to qualify the guy as a dolt.. all as evidence of how bored you are with all this.
quality argument yah got there, bub.
The guy normally takes the high road when insulted about his religious beliefs, maintains a level head when takling about religion, politics, foreign relations, etc and manages to not come off like an arrogant bellybutton with a liberal stick stuffed up his arse.
Guess what you sound like?
I appreciate the kind words Hang. :salute
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careful... I might hafta start humping yer leg or biting yer ankles.
I have my rep to protect, y'know?
;)
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careful... I might hafta start humping yer leg or biting yer ankles.
I have my rep to protect, y'know?
;)
Understood. :lol
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I miss boroda
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I miss boroda
He was good for some laughs for sure. :D
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Show where the media went to this same trouble to try to smear Obama.
Rev Wright, which was NOT his doing is one example. False, stupid moronic and idiotic associations with terrorist. You need more? Because McCain used a LOT of them in his goal to run a "clean camp". "I hit you, but I want a clean camp, don't hit me back..." McCain, Paline and Reps are childish hypocrites and cry babies. Point being there are plenty that Obama went through.
I loathe Paline as for someone who's good with body language and detecting lies, she's full up to her ears with tells. She has a pile of tells, even more then McCain, who's fakeish forced smiles tells big stories. Both of them, habitual liars.
Paline is used to using her looks to cover up she's just full of crap and self.
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Only if one communicates with their God by speaking in tounges!
:devil
Ys know SkyRock, I personally don't care for your in-game or ch 200 persona. But here, removing the tripe, you make some very valid points,...excluding the tripe. :)
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Show where the media went to this same trouble to try to smear Obama.
Rev Wright, which was NOT his doing is one example. False, stupid moronic and idiotic associations with terrorist. You need more? Because McCain used a LOT of them in his goal to run a "clean camp". "I hit you, but I want a clean camp, don't hit me back..." McCain, Paline and Reps are childish hypocrites and cry babies. Point being there are plenty that Obama went through.
The mud has been slinging both ways from the start. What I was talking about was the media's campaign to smear Palin, we haven't seen that same effort towards Obama from the media. Sorry, I should have been more clear.
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The mud has been slinging both ways from the start. What I was talking about was the media's campaign to smear Palin, we haven't seen that same effort towards Obama from the media. Sorry, I should have been more clear.
you ever watch the fox news channels?
get a grip..they are all over obama....
or Rush Limburger? media guy...
or Beck... is it Glenn? he runneth at the mouth quite a bit about Obama
there are plenty of trash talkers on both sides of the media spinner party
just a little more cheese for the winers needed on the right hand side
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you ever watch the fox news channels?
get a grip..they are all over obama....
or Rush Limburger? media guy...
or Beck... is it Glenn? he runneth at the mouth quite a bit about Obama
there are plenty of trash talkers on both sides of the media spinner party
just a little more cheese for the winers needed on the right hand side
Rush and Glen Beck are not reporters they are entertainers. Big dif, but you knew that already.
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you ever watch the fox news channels?
get a grip..they are all over obama....
or Rush Limburger? media guy...
or Beck... is it Glenn? he runneth at the mouth quite a bit about Obama
there are plenty of trash talkers on both sides of the media spinner party
just a little more cheese for the winers needed on the right hand side
No, I don't watch the news on TV. However, there are more left wing television news outlets than right wing. In fact, most of the media (TV and other wise) is left wing. The one place the left doesn't dominate the media is radio talk show.
I'm guessing I might have picked up an intardnet stalker. :uhoh
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Ys know SkyRock, I personally don't care for your in-game or ch 200 persona. But here, removing the tripe, you make some very valid points,...excluding the tripe. :)
thanks
here you remove it, kinda gross!!!(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/Skyrock67/tripe.jpg)
:devil
:noid
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Rush and Glen Beck are not reporters they are entertainers. Big dif, but you knew that already.
I wasn't going to bother mentioning that......I'm pretty sure it will just go over his head anyways. :uhoh
:D
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No, I don't watch the news on TV. However, there are more left wing television news outlets than right wing. In fact, most of the media (TV and other wise) is left wing. The one place the left doesn't dominate the media is radio talk show.
I'm guessing I might have picked up an intardnet stalker. :uhoh
Nah you're not my type
you believe too much of your own bs
and you still only pick and choose parts of posts to answer...too ah - feared - to actually respond to the actual post - you are a twister of words - is that speaking in Tongues? Also, you seem to respond to my posts much more often than any others - seems like you are experiencing a little bit of projection manifestation of personality....
So maybe in Tongue speak, you can communicate with your inner child and one of you two can grow up and actually make a post that actually has some merit
......
how long does one wait for the one line response with an emoticon at the end?
over 5000 posts....jeez you ever leave your bedroom to do other stuff besides play internet games and post on bulletin boards?
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Rush and Glen Beck are not reporters they are entertainers. Big dif, but you knew that already.
hint
Rush has a radio show -- media outlet
Beck had a show on cable news --media outlet...
Tell elfie his one liners are stale, his emoticons are weak..and he needs a life outside of this bbs... he is starting to believe himself
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and you still only pick and choose parts of posts to answer...too ah - feared - to actually respond to the actual post - you are a twister of words - is that speaking in Tongues? Also, you seem to respond to my posts much more often than any others - seems like you are experiencing a little bit of projection manifestation of personality....
I respond to those that respond to me. It's called communicating. :)
What is your fascination with my post count? And why are you trying to tell me how to post? :)
Do a search in the O'Club if you want to know what speaking in tongues is. ;)
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hint
Rush has a radio show -- media outlet
Beck had a show on cable news --media outlet...
Tell elfie his one liners are stale, his emoticons are weak..and he needs a life outside of this bbs... he is starting to believe himself
Yup...intardnet stalker. :uhoh
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hint
Rush has a radio show -- media outlet
Beck had a show on cable news --media outlet...
Tell elfie his one liners are stale, his emoticons are weak..and he needs a life outside of this bbs... he is starting to believe himself
Still not news people who claim "pure as the driven snow". Once again, you knew this. Tell me, is Chris Matthews bias or his buddy Kieth Olbermann?
Ohh wait pulled for being over the top.... my bad. :rolleyes:
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Yup...intardnet stalker. :uhoh
seems yes you are
try not to respond....do the 12 step--find the door - go outside and see what life is like outside of this bbs
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waits to see how long til the one liner and emoticon comes in...he can't help himself...
you still by the way have yet to ever respond to a full post - you pick and choose sections of a post and throw a one liner it it
sort of like a Pharisee.... heyzoos would not approve.... but like most in here who spout off how much of a follower of heyzoos they are ...you are only a follower of the practice of heyzoos..if it fits your current state of mind....
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Still not news people who claim "pure as the driven snow". Once again, you knew this. Tell me is Chris Matthews bias or his buddy Kieth Olbermann?
Ohh wait pulled for being over the top.... my bad. :rolleyes:
if the media outlet claims they are pure as snow...if they say or point out something bad about republicans ...they are wrong?
Did you know about the Obama tie in to the deals in Chicago - reznick was it?
How did you find it out?
Was it from a pure as snow media outlet? You are crying over spilled milk....
Chris Matthews made his career out of Clinton's little ...I did not have sex .... he was a little biased on that, he called him a liar... now he likes Obama...go figure.. he made his own choice...
Jeez..the news is the news... cable channels are full of news and talk programs that lean to the right and full of programs that lean to the left...
they are media... How many papers does Rupert Murdoch own? which way do they lean?
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who the hell listens to limbaugh.. a radio right wing show? And Beck.. the cable show Popsicle licker? Even O'reely.. the tool.
That's the extent of the 'right wing spinmeisters'.. ?? Sure.. there's lotsa 'undecided' voters in those demographics.
LOL!
CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN.. leftist loonies and barking mad marxist collaborators. . FOX.. Republican tools, can't be trusted to find their own arses with the charmin without a teleprompter.
None of them are holding the candidates feet to the fire on the issues... all we get are sniping attacks between 'republican' and 'democratic' contributors parsing soundbites.
and it's truly sucktastic.
You guys are far more entertaining. ;)
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democrats are in a panic, they might not only lose the white house but also control of the house of representatives.
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Lose the House? It's amazing they can find the place from one day to the next.
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When I see Charlie Gibson look down his nose interviewing the "anointed one", you can come talk to me about an unbiased media....K.
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sort of like a Pharisee.... heyzoos would not approve.... but like most in here who spout off how much of a follower of heyzoos they are ...you are only a follower of the practice of heyzoos..if it fits your current state of mind....
The real reason for your stalking finally comes out....my Faith. Gotcha. September 21 1997 at roughly 10 pm I began my walk with Christ. I haven't always been perfect, no one is, that's what God's Grace is for. I have tried to always follow Christ's teachings as I understood them. I have tried to learn more of His word in order to better follow Him.
My two biggest struggles were cursing and smoking cigarettes. Prior to September 21 1997 I swore worse than Al Pacino in the movie Scarface, something I am shamed by to this day. It took some time and a lot of prayer before that monster was conquered. Smoking was a different monster altogether. Smoking almost cracked my Faith in Him. I smoked for 27 years, at the end I was smoking a pack and a half to two packs a day. I had some things to learn before I was able to successfully quit. The biggest one was to truly lean on Him, and to give Him my problem and let Him take the burden for me. Once I learned to do that and not rely on myself, quitting was easy. I prayed many times before and while I was quitting the nicotine habit. My Faith in Him grew exponentially during this time. You see, I had tried literally dozens of times to quit on my own and I was never able to. It was His help that enabled me to quit and for that I love Him dearly.
He has been a better Father to me than either of the 2 earthly fathers I've had. The State of Nebraska took me away from my biological parents at the age of 2. (From what I understand it was chronic neglect that led to this.) By the time I was 5 I had been in 5 different foster homes. I can only remember 3 of them. The 5th foster home, those people adopted me (and 2 brothers and a sister) all on the same day when I was 12. My adopted parents did things to us they never did to their own children, many of those things would have put them in jail for years if they did them today. My heavenly Father has given me the strength and courage to forgive both of my earthly fathers for how they treated me when I was young.
I'll pray for you Nwbie, I don't know exactly what your issues are, but He does and He can help. :)
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My two biggest struggles were cursing
glad you could beat that, but who'd want to? :rolleyes:
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glad you could beat that, but who'd want to? :rolleyes:
Obviously, I did. :)
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Obviously, I did. :)
phraaak, that was so obvious! :devil
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The real reason for your stalking finally comes out....my Faith. Gotcha. September 21 1997 at roughly 10 pm I began my walk with Christ. I haven't always been perfect, no one is, that's what God's Grace is for. I have tried to always follow Christ's teachings as I understood them. I have tried to learn more of His word in order to better follow Him.
My two biggest struggles were cursing and smoking cigarettes. Prior to September 21 1997 I swore worse than Al Pacino in the movie Scarface, something I am shamed by to this day. It took some time and a lot of prayer before that monster was conquered. Smoking was a different monster altogether. Smoking almost cracked my Faith in Him. I smoked for 27 years, at the end I was smoking a pack and a half to two packs a day. I had some things to learn before I was able to successfully quit. The biggest one was to truly lean on Him, and to give Him my problem and let Him take the burden for me. Once I learned to do that and not rely on myself, quitting was easy. I prayed many times before and while I was quitting the nicotine habit. My Faith in Him grew exponentially during this time. You see, I had tried literally dozens of times to quit on my own and I was never able to. It was His help that enabled me to quit and for that I love Him dearly.
He has been a better Father to me than either of the 2 earthly fathers I've had. The State of Nebraska took me away from my biological parents at the age of 2. (From what I understand it was chronic neglect that led to this.) By the time I was 5 I had been in 5 different foster homes. I can only remember 3 of them. The 5th foster home, those people adopted me (and 2 brothers and a sister) all on the same day when I was 12. My adopted parents did things to us they never did to their own children, many of those things would have put them in jail for years if they did them today. My heavenly Father has given me the strength and courage to forgive both of my earthly fathers for how they treated me when I was young.
I'll pray for you Nwbie, I don't know exactly what your issues are, but He does and He can help. :)
Dude
no need to pray for me...i am not born again...i been born along time ago..i go regular. i participate, i discuss, i do not..pontificate...I come from a pretty goofy family life myself...happened a long time ago..
I am not stalking you dude...you take my posts...throw a one liner down - I respond..then you respond with ...stalker...jeez oh man...get a grip...your weak attempts at brushing aside the truth..by using emoticons, one liners, weak attempts at - hey look -he is a nut-- are weak, immature and full of bs
you again, refuse to address the posts - but lay out the hey feel sorry for me i was abused and now i have Jesus...I could care less....great for you...if that brings you out of the meetings that you must go to 4 times a week..then H - good for you...hope your life is better off...thank jod people like obama were around to try to make it better for abused kids and screwed up foster care programs...cuz it sure wasn't the non-community organizer crowd... do you get it?
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who the hell listens to limbaugh.. a radio right wing show? And Beck.. the cable show Popsicle licker? Even O'reely.. the tool.
That's the extent of the 'right wing spinmeisters'.. ?? Sure.. there's lotsa 'undecided' voters in those demographics.
LOL!
CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN.. leftist loonies and barking mad marxist collaborators. . FOX.. Republican tools, can't be trusted to find their own arses with the charmin without a teleprompter.
None of them are holding the candidates feet to the fire on the issues... all we get are sniping attacks between 'republican' and 'democratic' contributors parsing soundbites.
and it's truly sucktastic.
You guys are far more entertaining. ;)
Wow - something I agree with you on...Did h freeze over?
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When I see Charlie Gibson look down his nose interviewing the "anointed one", you can come talk to me about an unbiased media....K.
You mean when he asked Palin about the Bush Doctrine and she did her Porky Pig imitation? Bdaa Bdaa Bdaa ...Bdaa ...oh he has made some mistakes thats fer shuree...but hey-deer - we all doo ---
Yeah that was so wrong of him to stare at her in amazement
Heck why should she have known about that?
That was so rude of him to do that...
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This is the most i've seen NwBie post in one day ever.
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You mean when he asked Palin about the Bush Doctrine and she did her Porky Pig imitation? Bdaa Bdaa Bdaa ...Bdaa ...oh he has made some mistakes thats fer shuree...but hey-deer - we all doo ---
Yeah that was so wrong of him to stare at her in amazement
Heck why should she have known about that?
That was so rude of him to do that...
Porky pig imitation you say. Hows this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leEcpFOrulY ?
Ohh comfortably amongst his devoted followers i might add.
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You mean when he asked Palin about the Bush Doctrine and she did her Porky Pig imitation? Bdaa Bdaa Bdaa ...Bdaa ...oh he has made some mistakes thats fer shuree...but hey-deer - we all doo ---
Yeah that was so wrong of him to stare at her in amazement
Heck why should she have known about that?
That was so rude of him to do that...
Why should she have known about what....one of the 4 meanings of the "Bush Doctrine"?
Was she supposed to guess at which version he was referring to?
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Honestly, when it comes to mainstream Media, Palin is taking a beating. I honestly feel like they're scared. :O
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Dude
no need to pray for me...i am not born again...i been born along time ago..i go regular. i participate, i discuss, i do not..pontificate...I come from a pretty goofy family life myself...happened a long time ago..
I am not stalking you dude...you take my posts...throw a one liner down - I respond..then you respond with ...stalker...jeez oh man...get a grip...your weak attempts at brushing aside the truth..by using emoticons, one liners, weak attempts at - hey look -he is a nut-- are weak, immature and full of bs
you again, refuse to address the posts - but lay out the hey feel sorry for me i was abused and now i have Jesus...I could care less....great for you...if that brings you out of the meetings that you must go to 4 times a week..then H - good for you...hope your life is better off...thank jod people like obama were around to try to make it better for abused kids and screwed up foster care programs...cuz it sure wasn't the non-community organizer crowd... do you get it?
You completely misunderstand my entire post, completely. :)
Nothing I posted was to generate pity from anyone, it was merely to show that my heavenly Father has been far better to me than my earthly fathers.
Like I said before, I'll pray for you. :)
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This is the most i've seen NwBie post in one day ever.
Well when a woman rep VP nominee puts your pink frillies in a twist...what else is lib to do? ;)
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Well when a woman rep VP nominee puts your pink frillies in a twist...what else is lib to do? ;)
Attack Christians? :uhoh
:D
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Attack Christians? :uhoh
:D
Or that.
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LMAO I just noticed Nwbie's loc, figures.
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(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_03/liontv_468x649.jpg)
Send in another Christian..
.. with the remote!
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(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_03/liontv_468x649.jpg)
Send in another Christian..
.. with the remote!
:rofl
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Ahh, the time tested argument that because one has religious beliefs that they are automatically whackjobs. :aok
umm no.. There is a difference in people that live their "own" lives by their religious beliefs and then those that try to force them on others. One is a normal person the other is a whackjob..
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works both ways, there 'whackjob'. when shown respect; return it.
don't matter a bit if you worship christ, little green men or a community organizer with a messiah complex...
toss crap at any of 'em yer likely to get it tossed back or turned into a toad.
<ribbit>
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umm no.. There is a difference in people that live their "own" lives by their religious beliefs and then those that try to force them on others. One is a normal person the other is a whackjob..
What would an example of this be? What belief is being forced on you?
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Why should she have known about what....one of the 4 meanings of the "Bush Doctrine"?
Was she supposed to guess at which version he was referring to?
Well,,, she is trying to be elected to the position of Vice President
Maybe ... ummm.. maybe she should know what she is supposed to be doing if she does get elected with McCain..
Not just one point,,,, she didn't know what the h he was talking about at all...
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This is the most i've seen NwBie post in one day ever.
I had to wait for a phone call - nothing good on the tube.. work went well - 6 new accounts today... a little pumped up... so i typed a lot.... you missed a good time tonight - wrag, spin, skip,. and sharp - laffed r arses off
ask wrag about his cattle prod story :)
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Well when a woman rep VP nominee puts your pink frillies in a twist...what else is lib to do? ;)
Bronk
The bbs answer to Rush... spouts off...knows no one..., spouts off anyway
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Attack Christians? :uhoh
:D
I don't attack Christians... i do attack bigots, racists, and people who because they think that being a christian means forcing their beliefs on society as a whole is the only way... spreading the gospel is ok with me... just don't force it down the throat of someone who doesn't quite agree with your definition of a christian..
Some of the biggest hypocrites i have ever know sit in the front row of church, and some... stand behind the pulpit.. any one who goes around quoting verse and saying they will pray for me... well... go ahead, thats your right, ...but please do it in another room...
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LMAO I just noticed Nwbie's loc, figures.
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Your point? Do you think i am an Obama supporter? Why? Because i live in IL? Now that is funny... Generalizations will get you far in life...
Or because i am not -Lost in the hyperbole zone- cute, but lame....
you lean so far to the right ... you probably hit the side of the doorway a lot...
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repubs are just wicked scared that Palin will comeout of this the way she came in, light as a pancake and with no protien! :rofl
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The mud has been slinging both ways from the start. What I was talking about was the media's campaign to smear Palin, we haven't seen that same effort towards Obama from the media. Sorry, I should have been more clear.
Ok show me where the media is slamming Paline.
As I see it, so far she's gotten more coverage in the last week then other peeps in the last months. None of it I saw was slamming Paline. Although I have seen some media pointing out her lies etc.. is that what you call bad media? Hey, if a person is full of crap, a person is full of crap. Paline is full of crap. And it's her own mouth and her own patting herself on the back for half truths that gains her that attention. As McCain see it, it doesn't matter, as long as it keeps him from answering to questions about real issues, he's happy as a lark.
IMO Paline is just a part of smoke and mirrors, when HE gets elected you have to remember, all she's going to do is sit there on her butt, with no powers to do much more then pick her nose. She's camping like it's her getting elected president, she's not, until he dies she's just a no power lamer sitting in a corner.
The only thing that woman talks about is what she did in Alaska,.. and those are dripping with half truths and nonsense. Doesn't take more then 5 minutes to find the realism in her stories about herself. Obama does have more experience with making choices with larger numbers of people. She's just a circus geek.
~A
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I don't attack Christians... i do attack bigots, racists, and people who because they think that being a christian means forcing their beliefs on society as a whole is the only way... spreading the gospel is ok with me... just don't force it down the throat of someone who doesn't quite agree with your definition of a christian..
Some of the biggest hypocrites i have ever know sit in the front row of church, and some... stand behind the pulpit.. any one who goes around quoting verse and saying they will pray for me... well... go ahead, thats your right, ...but please do it in another room...
So now I'm either a bigot, a racist, forcing my beliefs on others or maybe all 3?
Sadly, that part in bold can be true sometimes.
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Ok show me where the media is slamming Paline.
As I see it, so far she's gotten more coverage in the last week then other peeps in the last months. None of it I saw was slamming Paline. Although I have seen some media pointing out her lies etc.. is that what you call bad media? Hey, if a person is full of crap, a person is full of crap. Paline is full of crap. And it's her own mouth and her own patting herself on the back for half truths that gains her that attention. As McCain see it, it doesn't matter, as long as it keeps him from answering to questions about real issues, he's happy as a lark.
IMO Paline is just a part of smoke and mirrors, when HE gets elected you have to remember, all she's going to do is sit there on her butt, with no powers to do much more then pick her nose. She's camping like it's her getting elected president, she's not, until he dies she's just a no power lamer sitting in a corner.
The only thing that woman talks about is what she did in Alaska,.. and those are dripping with half truths and nonsense. Doesn't take more then 5 minutes to find the realism in her stories about herself. Obama does have more experience with making choices with larger numbers of people. She's just a circus geek.
~A
Here's a partial list of things that have been reported about her, some true, some not.
http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/#respond
There has been many things here on this board that have been discussed about her. Things that were in the media. Have you not been keeping up?
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newbie.. supporter or not of osamabama... you seem to be giving him a pass on what you claim are violations of your core beliefs on religion... you said..
"I don't attack Christians... i do attack bigots, racists, and people who because they think that being a christian means forcing their beliefs on society as a whole"
Now, I think that the rev wright and his church... which osamabama attended for 20 years and.. which is "christian" and racist bigoted and forcing it's beliefs on a whole segment of society.. well.. I just think it is odd that you spend so much energy trying to trash Palin when I do not recall you doing the same when osamabama was outed for being a member of the racist bigot church where.... of all things.. he looked at the head racist and bigot as a "mentor"
It was at least a dozen times worse than any mild christian Palin belief.
Why do you give osambama a pass on a much much worse example of what you supposedly hate?
I would say that to you "the end justifies the means" in this case at least and that you are leaning so far left that you can't enter a doorway without hitting the frame... and.. worse..
you either don't know it or are being dishonest about it.. not sure what is worse.
lazs
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I usually just walk through a wall. Door frames are much harder to repair.
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newbie.. supporter or not of osamabama... you seem to be giving him a pass on what you claim are violations of your core beliefs on religion... you said..
"I don't attack Christians... i do attack bigots, racists, and people who because they think that being a christian means forcing their beliefs on society as a whole"
Now, I think that the rev wright and his church... which osamabama attended for 20 years and.. which is "christian" and racist bigoted and forcing it's beliefs on a whole segment of society.. well.. I just think it is odd that you spend so much energy trying to trash Palin when I do not recall you doing the same when osamabama was outed for being a member of the racist bigot church where.... of all things.. he looked at the head racist and bigot as a "mentor"
It was at least a dozen times worse than any mild christian Palin belief.
Why do you give osambama a pass on a much much worse example of what you supposedly hate?
I would say that to you "the end justifies the means" in this case at least and that you are leaning so far left that you can't enter a doorway without hitting the frame... and.. worse..
you either don't know it or are being dishonest about it.. not sure what is worse.
lazs
Actually Laz, I never participated in a discussion about Wright - I never read anything on here to discuss--I am quite sure there was something on here ..but I never read it..thus no posts
per Wright - he is a reverse bigot and I would never support him...he is no different than Farakhan in my opinion, but forced his beliefs on society as a whole is a little bit of a stretch... There is a white catholic priest in chicago that causes more racial problems than that guy ever did ...and is just as much a problem as any white racist in a robe... I agree with people like Bill Cosby who say - get ur donut off the couch and quit your whining... but I also think that apples to any race..there are plenty of white and mexican and asian...and more ... that abuse the system, use christianity as their sword of justification ... KKK comes to mind...
Are there any videos out there of Rev Wright pontificating while Obama was a member? There might be.. i have never seen one.. doesn't mean there aren't... And i agree, if Obama was a participant in such ditrates, he should admit it publicly, or at least have someone come up with actual proof..
i certainly am not going to apologize for him.. i am not my brothers keeper, Sadly, Rev Wright has done a lot of good for his community, power of the press and power of notoriety went to his head, and the reverse bigot showed through.
I went to a few young communist meetings when i was in college...does that make me a commie?
She believes she talks in tongue - or at least she did.... that the spirit of god speaks through her....
Scarier than anything Obama or Biden have ever done or will do...
osamabama.... <-- curious -- are you calling him a terrorist - or - a closet muslim?- or - do you not know how to type?..
If it is because he is black..then w t h ... just say so
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She believes she talks in tongue - or at least she did.... that the spirit of god speaks through her....
Scarier than anything Obama or Biden have ever done or will do...
LOL.. man; you are a pretty pitiful tool if you believe that.
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nwbie, what is your opinion of the obama-Wright connection?
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LOL.. man; you are a pretty pitiful tool if you believe that.
how so?
You think a rational human being speaks in tongue --that the holy spirit is speaking through them? is a rational person?
and you call me a pitiful tool?
lol
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The church she was in was not 'one of those' rabid barking mad sects that does the speaking in tongues stuff. Of course, if you'd done yer homework instead of spewing the regurgitated crap you ate up with relish, you'd know that.
But, why would you? Yer justa tool.
;)
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The church she was in was not 'one of those' rabid barking mad sects that does the speaking in tongues stuff. Of course, if you'd done yer homework instead of spewing the regurgitated crap you ate up with relish, you'd know that.
But, why would you? Yer justa tool.
;)
lol
typical ....what playground you going to next to call names and stomp off in anger?
And, yeah she did, and uhh if she went to such a church and someone started babbling and she looked on in rapture as the person spoke the words of the holy spirits...................... not rational...
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And, yeah she did, and uhh if she went to such a church and someone started babbling and she looked on in rapture as the person spoke the words of the holy spirits...................... not rational...
WTF is that supposed to mean?
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Do all liberals believe that someone must be religion free if they are to serve the state? What a serious distortion of the 1st amendment.
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nwbie, what is your opinion of the obama-Wright connection?
Obama needed to align with a passionate Preacher like Wright because Obamas' constituency expected nothing less than that type of alignment or Obama would be considered an outsider -- a lackey to whites.. The cook county democratic organization has become nothing more than a reverse of what it was 20 years ago... whites controlled it then - lots of corruption and good old boy favors... today.. the blacks control it... lots of corruption and good old boy favors... They still have to do the same old .. Hey - I'm like you - I can relate - song and dance... like when Reagan glad handed with Jerry Falwell - you do know Ronnie hated doing that right? -
As for Obama saying wright was a mentor... bet he wishes he could take that back .. but i also think he meant as being active in the community.. pushing people up to gain self respect - to move on to a better life... lots of anger in the black community - lots deserved.. but anger that at some point needs to be let go of... you can't reverse history...
like Al Gore -- chad issues - I bet his anger disapeared on 9-11, I can just Imagine his thought processes that morning--Thank jod i lost the election... cuz this is a cluster****...................
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Here's a partial list of things that have been reported about her, some true, some not.
http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/#respond
There has been many things here on this board that have been discussed about her. Things that were in the media. Have you not been keeping up?
www.factcheck.org
What makes me vomit, is the Reps pound obama to death but can't seem to take it when it's their turn to take it. Hypocrit cry babies is all I see in this camp of reps. "do as I say, not as I do"
I can find just as many if not more about Obama. And I don't visit blogs, they are unregulated and can spew any nonsense they want without check.
Rumors on the internet are not the same as the media pounding Paline. The Media "pounding" Paline is just exposing her BS as it is. If that's slamming, well then she asked for it through her own stupid mouth.
"BTW, that bridge to nowhere, I told congress, thanks but no thanks" That line of BS comes out in EVERY single speech EVEN AFTER it's been proven it's half truth she's telling about herself over and over. Not sure people can get much more stupid then that,.. but I'm sure I'll be amazed soon.
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like Al Gore -- chad issues - I bet his anger disapeared on 9-11, I can just Imagine his thought processes that morning--Thank jod i lost the election... cuz this is a cluster****...................
Indeed it was. One that was brought on by his own administration you will admit if you examine the preceeding 8 years.
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www.factcheck.org
What makes me vomit, is the Reps pound obama to death but can't seem to take it when it's their turn to take it. Hypocrit cry babies is all I see in this camp of reps. "do as I say, not as I do"
I can find just as many if not more about Obama. And I don't visit blogs, they are unregulated and can spew any nonsense they want without check.
Rumors on the internet are not the same as the media pounding Paline. The Media "pounding" Paline is just exposing her BS as it is. If that's slamming, well then she asked for it through her own stupid mouth.
"BTW, that bridge to nowhere, I told congress, thanks but no thanks" That line of BS comes out in EVERY single speech EVEN AFTER it's been proven it's half truth she's telling about herself over and over. Not sure people can get much more stupid then that,.. but I'm sure I'll be amazed soon.
Who can't take it? Bring it on I say. Every bitter and spiteful word spewed is probably worth 100 undecided votes.
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Obama needed to align with a racist Preacher like Wright because Obamas' constituency expected nothing less than that type of alignment or Obama would be considered an outsider -- a lackey to whites.. The cook county democratic organization has become nothing more than a reverse of what it was 20 years ago... whites controlled it then - lots of corruption and good old boy favors... today.. the blacks control it... lots of corruption and good old boy favors... They still have to do the same old .. Hey - I'm like you - I can relate - song and dance... like when Reagan glad handed with Jerry Falwell - you do know Ronnie hated doing that right? -
As for Obama saying wright was a mentor... bet he wishes he could take that back .. but i also think he meant as being active in the community.. pushing people up to gain self respect - to move on to a better life... lots of anger in the black community - lots deserved.. but anger that at some point needs to be let go of... you can't reverse history...
like Al Gore -- chad issues - I bet his anger disapeared on 9-11, I can just Imagine his thought processes that morning--Thank jod i lost the election... cuz this is a cluster****...................
Fixed.
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Do all liberals believe that someone must be religion free if they are to serve the state? What a serious distortion of the 1st amendment.
Where is it said one must be religion free? And i am sure there are many hard line republicans that shook their head and said - ohh noooeeesss... when the speaking in tongues stuff came out...
i don't slam Christianity.. far from it... i do point at extreme unbalanced behavior and say -- utt ooohhsss....speaking in tongues ... uttt ooohhhhss
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Fixed.
Hangtime....
go back to the other side of the playground.... I already stated that... if you only ...jeez its a weird thing that you need to do that all the time... change peoples posts... weird isn't even the right word for it... disturbing... nope...
i know... my first grader gets a sad face paper to bring home if she acts up in class, and disturbs the rest of the class by her clownish behavior....
so here :frown:
now have mom sign it and bring it back to class tomorrow
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What.. Wright is not a racist?
LOL!
Not only are yah a liberal tool, yer far from the sharpest one in the shed.
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Indeed it was. One that was brought on by his own administration you will admit if you examine the preceeding 8 years.
Yep - agree to that... That was a total F - up
Now how come Dub-Ya went after Sadaam and not Osama? Which was the whole point of retribution... right?
Still have never got a clear answer on that - other than Haliburton wanted the natural gas lines in Iraq.. and unfortunately, Osama wasn't cooperating and was actually there,,, will you admit to that?
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What.. Wright is not a racist?
LOL!
Not only are yah a liberal tool, yer far from the sharpest one in the shed.
Hangtime - supposed moderate ... lol
go to page 16 - 6th or 7th post down... actually read the post . not just one line .. froth at the mouth and hit reply
Actually read the post... i know its not your habit .. but this time try... there may be a smiley face in it for you... then actually comment about something you know about... and the sharpener is over there ---> for your self flagellation
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On my machine, this is page 15. But, rather than using a reply post number, you just naturally assumed that everybody has the same OS, monitor and layout you have. Typical socialist tool attitude.. lets all vote alike, talk alike and follow each other around.
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Yep - agree to that... That was a total F - up
Now how come Dub-Ya went after Sadaam and not Osama? Which was the whole point of retribution... right?
Still have never got a clear answer on that - other than Haliburton wanted the natural gas lines in Iraq.. and unfortunately, Osama wasn't cooperating and was actually there,,, will you admit to that?
I'll admit that Bush didn't get Osama if you'll admit we went after him in Afghanistan, purged the Taliban of power in the effort, and still fight them every day there. We are even trespassing into Pakistan to get that murdering bastard and his cronies.
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how so?
You think a rational human being speaks in tongue --that the holy spirit is speaking through them? is a rational person?
and you call me a pitiful tool?
lol
Speaking in tongues was one of the gifts the Holy Spirit gave the very early Christians at Pentecost.
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What makes me vomit,
you are the whiniest damned liberal weenie this board has had to endure in quite some time.
Put a cork in it!
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Speaking in tongues was one of the gifts the Holy Spirit gave the very early Christians at Pentecost.
But those were "tongues" that people understood, actual foreign languages...
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Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah, Yadda Yadda Yadda Yadda Yadda Yadda Yadda Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
Did I miss anything?
Seriously....both sides do the slammin on the other thing, get over it already. The link I provided, sure it showed intardnet rumors, but many of those rumors the press has picked up and run with like they were facts. What little right wing media we have has done the same thing with Barack Obama.
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Indeed it was. One that was brought on by his own administration you will admit if you examine the preceeding 8 years.
WHat a load of horse pooh. Bush came in lickin chomps to get oil....err Saddam, and left his left guard down, unfortunately it cost us 2600 lives. :rolleyes:
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But those were "tongues" that people understood, actual foreign languages...
I've never seen anyone speaking in tongues, even if I did, unless they were just standing there moaning, groaning and going gooo gooo gah gah, I wouldn't know if they were speaking an actual language or not because I only speak English. :D
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WHat a load of horse pooh. Bush came in lickin chomps to get oil....err Saddam, and left his left guard down, unfortunately it cost us 2600 lives. :rolleyes:
Prove what you claim, at least for once. Show us all where it was intelligence failures of the Bush administration, in office for less than 9 months, rather than an extension of the failed policies of the previous CLINTON administration, repeated over the previous EIGHT YEARS. See, the problem is, we've been attacked successfully ONCE since Bush took office. How many times under Clinton? The World Trade Center bombing, the USS Cole bombing, multiple embassies bombed, shall we continue?
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you are the whiniest damned liberal weenie this board has had to endure in quite some time.
Put a cork in it!
Nope, don't think I will.
I'm as free as you pal.
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Prove what you claim, at least for once. Show us all where it was intelligence failures of the Bush administration, in office for less than 9 months, rather than an extension of the failed policies of the previous CLINTON administration, repeated over the previous EIGHT YEARS. See, the problem is, we've been attacked successfully ONCE since Bush took office. How many times under Clinton? The World Trade Center bombing, the USS Cole bombing, multiple embassies bombed, shall we continue?
As much as I really want to see SkyRock's response to this, I know that all that will come of it will be some one-liner with the :aok smiley at the end.
The scary thing is that he is a teacher and supposedly deals in facts.
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The scary thing is that he is a teacher and supposedly deals in facts.
Checking the post time histories and the content pretty much kills that theory.
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Skyrock's multitudinous nonsensical posts are very similar to Arlo's. Arlo couldn't take the scorn he earned and left. Maybe skyrock will do the same?
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As much as I really want to see SkyRock's response to this, I know that all that will come of it will be some one-liner with the :aok smiley at the end.
The scary thing is that he is a teacher and supposedly deals in facts.
That's been my experience as well. Never backs anything up... ever! My solution?
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/myfask/258Troll_spray.jpg)
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I'll see your Sarcasm and raise you....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH5ixmT83JE
I agree....some of the things this country has done is shameful. Golly-geen America!!!
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"... reverend wright... paging reverend wright to the un american racist plagiarists booth on the lowest level... "
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I agree....some of the things this country has done is shameful. Golly-geen America!!!
You mean like creating the AIDS virus and infecting black people? We sho nuff deserved that attack on 9/11 didn't we? You and the good reverend would get along just fine.
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You mean like creating the AIDS virus and infecting black people? We sho nuff deserved that attack on 9/11 didn't we? You and the good reverend would get along just fine.
"We sho nuff".....that's extremely ignorant and borderline racist. No need to respond any further, I will not change your ethnocentric views.
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Skyrock's multitudinous nonsensical posts are very similar to Arlo's. Arlo couldn't take the scorn he earned and left. Maybe skyrock will do the same?
AKIron, I have stated this before and will right now, my sole reason for being in O'club is entertainment. I will not spend my time in here researching facts that will not be taken into account by you fellas. The righties in here are like lawyers, always changing the real topic into whether someone can link a source, that they will honor. I shall not go there. I believe like many in this country do, that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, and therefore that most of the responsibility shall be placed on his shoulders. If he didn't like how things were going, he had 9 months to change them, and history shows us that flags were up, and ignored, under his watch(no I will not spend my time researching an exact link because you fraks know this to be true). As we all know, all reporting/research usually includes personal bias, as in any field of research, just that in politics, its all prevelant. So what's in a link, what is the truth, who decides?
I used to read Arlo's posts, and thought he was way out there for my good on most topics, but I appluaded his courage to stand up against you fellas. The O'club is probably slanted towards the right by as much as 80-95%. One can hardly make any statement at all against a conservative view without being bombarded with requests for links that none of the righties will reguard as truth anyway. So, when I say Bush is at fault for 9/11, it is so as I see it, no link will tell me otherwise, it was how I was raised. It happened on his ship, 9 months after he left port, if he didn't like how the ship was being sailed, he should have acted with more vigor to correct it before the tragedy. :aok
PS remember......entertainment only! :devil
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borderline racist.
it's not borderline, it is conservative. :aok
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"We sho nuff".....that's extremely ignorant and borderline racist. No need to respond any further, I will not change your ethnocentric views.
Obviously you ain't from the south boy.
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Obviously you ain't from the south boy.
Calling me "boy"....keep going with your racist rhetoric.
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Calling me "boy"....keep going with your racist rhetoric.
If you didn't call yerself "twentyfo" I could almost believe you're serious.
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If you didn't call yerself "twentyfo" I could almost believe you're serious.
Not enough spaces to pay hommage to my favorite show 24. Plus it's funny to hear people pronounce it on vox.
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AKIron, I have stated this before and will right now, my sole reason for being in O'club is entertainment. I will not spend my time in here researching facts that will not be taken into account by you fellas. The righties in here are like lawyers, always changing the real topic into whether someone can link a source, that they will honor. I shall not go there. I believe like many in this country do, that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, and therefore that most of the responsibility shall be placed on his shoulders. If he didn't like how things were going, he had 9 months to change them, and history shows us that flags were up, and ignored, under his watch(no I will not spend my time researching an exact link because you fraks know this to be true). As we all know, all reporting/research usually includes personal bias, as in any field of research, just that in politics, its all prevelant. So what's in a link, what is the truth, who decides?
I used to read Arlo's posts, and thought he was way out there for my good on most topics, but I appluaded his courage to stand up against you fellas. The O'club is probably slanted towards the right by as much as 80-95%. One can hardly make any statement at all against a conservative view without being bombarded with requests for links that none of the righties will reguard as truth anyway. So, when I say Bush is at fault for 9/11, it is so as I see it, no link will tell me otherwise, it was how I was raised. It happened on his ship, 9 months after he left port, if he didn't like how the ship was being sailed, he should have acted with more vigor to correct it before the tragedy. :aok
PS remember......entertainment only! :devil
Long story short, he'll be like a seagull, fly in, crap all over everything, and fly out. He can't be bothered to support his crap, err, statements, with facts, so he'll just crap, err, make statements, and demand that because he sees it that way, we take them at face value. So, I suggest we take his crap, err statements, at face value, and ignore them as the crap they are.
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A sho-nuff, smart-ass yankee reply. Ya'll really don't know watermelon about Southern life, do ya? Our black and white ancestors have worked side-by-side in the fields for about 300 years, and have shared and borrowed a lot of idioms and similitudes.
My mother and uncles and cousins and black nannies and friends have been using "sho-nuff" hand-runnin' for years. Never knew any one to get their knickers in a wad about it.
Until now...
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Long story short, he'll be like a seagull, fly in, crap all over everything, and fly out. He can't be bothered to support his crap, err, statements, with facts, so he'll just crap, err, make statements, and demand that because he sees it that way, we take them at face value. So, I suggest we take his crap, err statements, at face value, and ignore them as the crap they are.
hmm, first conservative reply, and all you have is what? Me stating that I believe Bush is at fault is my opinion, do you need a link for that?
Do you think Bush was at any fault in the 9/11 tragedy? links please?
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Prove what you claim, at least for once. Show us all where it was intelligence failures of the Bush administration, in office for less than 9 months, rather than an extension of the failed policies of the previous CLINTON administration, repeated over the previous EIGHT YEARS. See, the problem is, we've been attacked successfully ONCE since Bush took office. How many times under Clinton? The World Trade Center bombing, the USS Cole bombing, multiple embassies bombed, shall we continue?
btw, your punting the ball is old school weak. By your standards, we can trace 9/11 back to the crusades. :aok or, by your standards, CLinton was fighting what was started under H's policies, oh, but that wouldn't be right to you? :rofl
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Obviously you ain't from the south boy.
according to your ava neither are you. and what does that have to do with the south? Racism is only in the south? :rofl
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I remember back in my high school forensics class's thinking that quoting so called experts solidified my position.
My instructor asked me a simple question, "cant your arguments stand on their own volition?"
shamus
edit: referring to the constant call for links.
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AKIron, I have stated this before and will right now, my sole reason for being in O'club is entertainment. I will not spend my time in here researching facts that will not be taken into account by you fellas. The righties in here are like lawyers, always changing the real topic into whether someone can link a source, that they will honor. I shall not go there. I believe like many in this country do, that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, and therefore that most of the responsibility shall be placed on his shoulders. If he didn't like how things were going, he had 9 months to change them, and history shows us that flags were up, and ignored, under his watch(no I will not spend my time researching an exact link because you fraks know this to be true). As we all know, all reporting/research usually includes personal bias, as in any field of research, just that in politics, its all prevelant. So what's in a link, what is the truth, who decides?
I used to read Arlo's posts, and thought he was way out there for my good on most topics, but I appluaded his courage to stand up against you fellas. The O'club is probably slanted towards the right by as much as 80-95%. One can hardly make any statement at all against a conservative view without being bombarded with requests for links that none of the righties will reguard as truth anyway. So, when I say Bush is at fault for 9/11, it is so as I see it, no link will tell me otherwise, it was how I was raised. It happened on his ship, 9 months after he left port, if he didn't like how the ship was being sailed, he should have acted with more vigor to correct it before the tragedy. :aok
PS remember......entertainment only! :devil
There are quite a few of us that respond to actual facts, but you will be called on any bogus stuff you post. :)
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according to your ava neither are you. and what does that have to do with the south? Racism is only in the south? :rofl
I've lived in Idaho for 6 months. Born and reared in Texas. I really couldn't care much less about your opinion and the race card don't work on me son.
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There are quite a few of us that respond to actual facts, but you will be called on any bogus stuff you post. :)
I stated the reason I felt for Bush's responsibility. It was my opinion based on how I was raised. I have no link for my fathers teachings. :aok
Let me ask you a question. Elfie, do you believe Bush was in any way at fault for 9/11? I don't want a link, I want what you believe. :aok
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I've lived in Idaho for 6 months. Born and reared in Texas. I really couldn't care much less about your opinion and the race card don't work on me son.
dont be a coward and hide behind a slogan, "race card" is just a phrase. If your actions are racist, then that is what you are. :aok
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hmm, first conservative reply, and all you have is what? Me stating that I believe Bush is at fault is my opinion, do you need a link for that?
Do you think Bush was at any fault in the 9/11 tragedy? links please?
ALL I have is that? I didn't ask for a link, I merely stated a fact, the fact being you refuse to back up your "statements" with fact. You have done so in the past, and continue to do so. And you weakly claim it is "entertainment" :rolleyes: Bull, it's nothing more than a pathetic cover for your inability and unwillingness to support your arguments.
Yes, Bush does share some blame. However, you cannot re-establish an intelligence network crippled by arrogance and stupidity in less than 8 months. The Bush administration started out behind, but also failed to do enough to catch up. I've said it all along.
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I remember back in my high school forensics class's thinking that quoting so called experts solidified my position.
My instructor asked me a simple question, "cant your arguments stand on their own volition?"
shamus
edit: referring to the constant call for links.
Moral.. be prepared if challenged?
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Question for you race card players. Why so quick to yell racist? Is it racist to use the vernacular of a "culture" even if in a mocking way? Are you defending the poor ignorant savages or just running to tell the teacher to somehow gain favor?
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ooh... ooh...oooh.. I know this one... mr cotter! mr cotter!
It's in style again.
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btw, your punting the ball is old school weak. By your standards, we can trace 9/11 back to the crusades. :aok or, by your standards, CLinton was fighting what was started under H's policies, oh, but that wouldn't be right to you? :rofl
Actually, Reagan made the first mistake (if you ignore Carter and the Iran hostage fiasco), when rather than send in more Marines when their barracks in Lebanon was bombed, he pulled the Marines out, giving terrorism their first major victory against us. He however, did not repeat that failure. Nor did G.H.W. Bush. However, Clinton on the other hand, failed miserably and repeatedly, throughout his two terms. There were repeated attacks, and he repeatedly failed to take proper action. Further, he wrecked our intelligence system, and hamstrung our spec ops assets.
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ALL I have is that? I didn't ask for a link, I merely stated a fact, the fact being you refuse to back up your "statements" with fact. You have done so in the past, and continue to do so. And you weakly claim it is "entertainment" :rolleyes: Bull, it's nothing more than a pathetic cover for your inability and unwillingness to support your arguments.
Yes, Bush does share some blame. However, you cannot re-establish an intelligence network crippled by arrogance and stupidity in less than 8 months. The Bush administration started out behind, but also failed to do enough to catch up. I've said it all along.
So, by your own statement, my post was true. Then why in the hell do you want to divert the topic into how I don't post links, if in fact you agree that what I posted is a fact? Anyone with common sense would conclude that Bush, by the nature of his job, would hold some responsibility, and by my way of thinking, would be totally responsible. :aok
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Question for you race card players. Why so quick to yell racist? Is it racist to use the vernacular of a "culture" even if in a mocking way? Are you defending the poor ignorant savages or just running to tell the teacher to somehow gain favor?
Your use of the term, "race card" and spaz reaction tells me plenty, I can hear you boiling with anger in this post. :aok
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Moral.. be prepared if challenged?
Ya that's a good moral, and if not prepared....change the subject, reassign the discussion, that happened shortly after Urchins post.
shamus
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Actually, Reagan made the first mistake (if you ignore Carter and the Iran hostage fiasco), when rather than send in more Marines when their barracks in Lebanon was bombed, he pulled the Marines out, giving terrorism their first major victory against us. He however, did not repeat that failure. Nor did G.H.W. Bush. However, Clinton on the other hand, failed repeatedly
I agree with this. :aok
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Your use of the term, "race card" and spaz reaction tells me plenty, I can hear you boiling with anger in this post. :aok
You gotta be Arlo. I can't believe there are two people in this world older than 12 that think like that.
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So, by your own statement, my post was true. Then why in the hell do you want to divert the topic into how I don't post links, if in fact you agree that what I posted is a fact? Anyone with common sense would conclude that Bush, by the nature of his job, would hold some responsibility, and by my way of thinking, would be totally responsible. :aok
I said, and have always said Bush carries SOME responsibility. You on the other hand, with nothing to support your claim, blindly and constantly claim Bush carries SOLE responsibility. There's a big difference. Bush would NEVER have been able to catch up in time, but could have been ahead of where he was. See, again, you ignore what you want to ignore, and scream at the top of your lungs what you want to believe, and assert that your desire to believe it makes it so. It doesn't, and you have no facts to support your assumptions. The fact that you categorically REFUSE to support your assumptions remains unchanged, and it renders your assumptions moot, and without merit. You cannot even support your flawed thought process. By your standards, if you took over a class that was failing a subject, then they were tested 4 weeks later and they all still failed, their failure would be ALL your fault.
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Let me ask you a question. Elfie, do you believe Bush was in any way at fault for 9/11? I don't want a link, I want what you believe.
No. Bush did not hijack a single plane on 9/11. Al-Qaeada terrorists did, they are the ones at fault for 9/11.
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You gotta be Arlo. I can't believe there are two people in this world older than 12 that think like that.
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calm down, I don't care what you believe, just don't deny to yourself what you believe. :aok :lol
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I agree with this. :aok
Congratulations. The thing is, Clinton never recovered from his complete failures, while Bush recovered from Clinton's failures too late, he recovered well enough we've not been successfully attacked since 11 September 2001.
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The fact that you categorically REFUSE to support your assumptions remains unchanged, and it renders your assumptions moot, and without merit. .
This is where you go wrong. If, I tell you I was robbed, and you call bs. My lack of proof to assure you it happened will never change the fact that it did, indeed, happen. You could continue to debunk my claim and win a debate on the fact that I didn't have proof, but it still happened, nonetheless.
Bush, was alive through all of the CLinton era attacks on us, he and all of the people around him knew Binladins name and his intentions. He had 9 months to do something, he failed.
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No. Bush did not hijack a single plane on 9/11. Al-Qaeada terrorists did, they are the ones at fault for 9/11.
:rofl
Was Bush reponsible in any way for the defense of our nation on the day of 9/11?
:aok
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Clinton had the opportunity to respond to multiple terrorists attacks on us. His responses were feeble at best. Bush gave 'em Afghanistan and threw in Iraq for good measure. Still waiting for that cheap oil though. Anyhow, Clinton's foreign policy proved to be a miserable failure. Bush's has not. This is like the difference between Carter and Reagan. We don't need another Carter or Clinton.
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Bush, was alive through all of the CLinton era attacks on us, he and all of the people around him knew Binladins name and his intentions. He had 9 months to do something, he failed.
First, 9 months simply was not enough time to rebuild the intelligence networks that were dismantled during the Clinton years.
2nd, What exactly, do you propose that Bush should have done during those first 9 months he was in office?
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Was Bush reponsible in any way for the defense of our nation on the day of 9/11?
Yes he was, but that wasn't what you asked the first time now was it? :)
As President, he is responsible for our defense, but he is not responsible for the actions of those that might attack us. :)
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we've not been successfully attacked since 11 September 2001.
not entirely true, but on our soil, yes. The US has lost many to alqueda terrorism in IRAQ, of course it was Bush that put us into IRAQ, but thats another topic. :aok
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This is where you go wrong. If, I tell you I was robbed, and you call bs. My lack of proof to assure you it happened will never change the fact that it did, indeed, happen. You could continue to debunk my claim and win a debate on the fact that I didn't have proof, but it still happened, nonetheless.
Bush, was alive through all of the CLinton era attacks on us, he and all of the people around him knew Binladins name and his intentions. He had 9 months to do something, he failed.
No, I didn't go wrong. The problem with your assertion is that you believe something happened, and yet provide no evidence, saying you don't HAVE to.
Again, expecting Bush to stop the events of 11 September 2001 in EIGHT MONTHS when in fact there is plenty of evidence that it was in the planning stages for at least 2-3 YEARS is ludicrous. On 20 January 2001, Bush inherited, from a less than co-operative Clinton administration, a spec ops and intelligence system that was in complete disarray. The spec ops units had been hamstrung, and prevented from operating freely. The intelligence system was a train wreck, the human assets had been cut to the point where they couldn't gather adequate information. That section of the government was performing so badly that we'd been attacked successfully numerous times. It took eight YEARS for it to get that bad, and you expect it to have been fully repaired and functioning at 100% in eight MONTHS? Get real.
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not entirely true, but on our soil, yes. The US has lost many to alqueda terrorism in IRAQ, of course it was Bush that put us into IRAQ, but thats another topic. :aok
Yes, and by going into Iraq, Bush has forced Al Queada to focus their assets in Iraq almost exclusively, and they've been decimated. They've been summarily defeated at every turn. Even they admit they've been thoroughly trashed in Iraq, and soon enough, they'll get the same in Afghanistan, unless of course we get a President stupid enough to let them rest and recover.
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First, 9 months simply was not enough time to rebuild the intelligence networks that were dismantled during the Clinton years.
2nd, What exactly, do you propose that Bush should have done during those first 9 months he was in office?
The systems were not broken, they detected the terrorists, just nothing was done about it.
He should have "laid down the law" on all intelligence agencies about the threat and impotance of immediate action.
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in Afghanistan, unless of course we get a President stupid enough to let them rest and recover.
Kinda like, holding back our troops at......Tora Bora?
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The systems were not broken, they detected the terrorists, just nothing was done about it.
He should have "laid down the law" on all intelligence agencies about the threat and impotance of immediate action.
By that strategy, you should be able to tell all your students "I demand scores of 95% or better on all tests, or else", and have them perform to that level. That won't happen either.
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By that strategy, you should be able to tell all your students "I demand scores of 95% or better on all tests, or else", and have them perform to that level. That won't happen either.
I agree with you, but he could have stepped up more, for sure. :aok
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I agree with you, but he could have stepped up more, for sure. :aok
And you know this how? Oh, excuse me, I forgot, you "believe" it to be true, so it is. NOT.
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The systems were not broken, they detected the terrorists, just nothing was done about it.
He should have "laid down the law" on all intelligence agencies about the threat and impotance of immediate action.
No one is saying they were broken, they were crippled but not broken.
*edit* Where he should have *laid down the law* concerning the intelligence agencies was in the area concerning their *rivalries* with each other. Seriously....what the heck were those retards thinking? They are ALL on the same freakin team but they acted like it was some sort of sports league and they were all in competition with each other.
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bin laden was wounded and in the foothills of afghanistan... rummy took away resources from the special forces to invade iraq so he ending up getting away.
then the neoclowns did exactly what bin laden wanted... they bankrupted the empire in a protected war on muslim land.
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Are you talking about Tora Bora?
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bin laden was wounded and in the foothills of afghanistan
Source?
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And you know this how? Oh, excuse me, I forgot, you "believe" it to be true, so it is. NOT.
no, because there were several warnings that a "hightened alert phase" would have definitely caught. :aok
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And you know this how? Oh, excuse me, I forgot, you "believe" it to be true, so it is. NOT.
Just throwing this in at any point,...
I think you are confusing SkyRock the ch 200 idiot, with Mark the everyday guy that has at least two brain cells that actually communicate with each other. It's your under estimating of him as Mark that's biting your ars back. The SkyRock tard I own you crap doesn't get the time of day from me.
That said,..he's actually making very valid points to consider.
You will be much better off if you accept views from all angles instead of just the ones you choose. That said, IMO,..quite a few folks in here are walking around with pin-hole vision.
If someone says something you never heard, research it, not just to prove it right or wrong, but to educate yourselves, so this time making a MUCH better decision on who you put in that office. because people can blame Bush himself all they want and I DO, but the reality of that IS the people are responsible by voting with their eyes closed, and for victory over truth and ignoring all the red flags, just like he did.
People who game the game and play elections like some sick game show with party-line as a divider, have done this country and it's people a great injustice.
Instead of treating it like something important to all of us, like an election. There's nothing wrong with educating yourselves so that we don't screw it up again and let complete utter back stabbing lying morons slip through cracks.
You can't educate yourself if you refuse new information,... OR finding out that some things are just false rumors.
I'm and independent, I care not who you vote for, just don't screw us all again with the brainless lazy party-line way. When you ignore all the red flags and vote party line, you just did us all a great injustice...IMO
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bin laden was wounded and in the foothills of afghanistan... rummy took away resources from the special forces to invade iraq so he ending up getting away.
then the neoclowns did exactly what bin laden wanted... they bankrupted the empire in a protected war on muslim land.
They swallowed Bin laden's hook, line, sinker,.. and pole,.. and reel,.. and part of an arm. Brilliant people.
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they bankrupted the empire in a protected war on muslim land.
you mean "protracted"....what a tool :rofl
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Just throwing this in at any point,...
I think you are confusing SkyRock the ch 200 idiot, with Mark the everyday guy that has at least two brain cells that actually communicate with each other. It's your under estimating of him as Mark that's biting your ars back. The SkyRock tard I own you crap doesn't get the time of day from me.
That said,..he's actually making very valid points to consider.
You will be much better off if you accept views from all angles instead of just the ones you choose. That said, IMO,..quite a few folks in here are walking around with pin-hole vision.
If someone says something you never heard, research it, not just to prove it right or wrong, but to educate yourselves, so this time making a MUCH better decision on who you put in that office. because people can blame Bush himself all they want and I DO, but the reality of that IS the people are responsible by voting with their eyes closed, and for victory over truth and ignoring all the red flags, just like he did.
People who game the game and play elections like some sick game show with party-line as a divider, have done this country and it's people a great injustice.
Instead of treating it like something important to all of us, like an election. There's nothing wrong with educating yourselves so that we don't screw it up again and let complete utter back stabbing lying morons slip through cracks.
You can't educate yourself if you refuse new information,... OR finding out that some things are just false rumors.
I'm and independent, I care not who you vote for, just don't screw us all again with the brainless lazy party-line way. When you ignore all the red flags and vote party line, you just did us all a great injustice...IMO
Just so you know, I've known him for quite a while. I know who you are, too. I couldn't care less what gets the time of day from you. I don't accept any views from any direction if those views do not have any supporting evidence behind them. Post "views" and no evidence to back them up and it's nothing more than noise. If you don't care enough bout your "views" to support them, why the Hell should anyone else care about your "views"? You want your "opinion" heard, back it up. If it's the same drivel I've heard before, from any side, show me a reason to give it consideration, or it is just that, unsupported drivel. The fact that you came along and offered your opinion doesn't mean squat either, because you didn't back it up. Your opinion of him doesn't validate him or you, nor does it give either of your views any value or credence. I'm not here to do you justice, in your opinion, and I don't vote any party line.
The only person screwing anyone is the person posting "views" and demanding they be accepted with nothing to support them. And that person is screwing every person whose time they waste by being too lazy to back up anything they say.
Come back when you have something intelligent to say, as opposed to "Gov. whacko" and the rest of that drivel. And do it after you've decided you feel strongly enough about it to post some facts and sources to back it up. Your "feelings" mean exactly squat. I don't make any judgments or decisions based on "feelings". And if you post for "entertainment", post something entertaining, such as a joke or an amusing or interesting story, instead of slobbering some crap you heard from some "media outlet" that you "feel" is correct.
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Just so you know, I've known him for quite a while. I know who you are, too. I couldn't care less what gets the time of day from you. I don't accept any views from any direction if those views do not have any supporting evidence behind them. Post "views" and no evidence to back them up and it's nothing more than noise. If you don't care enough bout your "views" to support them, why the Hell should anyone else care about your "views"? You want your "opinion" heard, back it up. If it's the same drivel I've heard before, from any side, show me a reason to give it consideration, or it is just that, unsupported drivel. The fact that you came along and offered your opinion doesn't mean squat either, because you didn't back it up. Your opinion of him doesn't validate him or you, nor does it give either of your views any value or credence. I'm not here to do you justice, in your opinion, and I don't vote any party line.
The only person screwing anyone is the person posting "views" and demanding they be accepted with nothing to support them. And that person is screwing every person whose time they waste by being too lazy to back up anything they say.
Come back when you have something intelligent to say, as opposed to "Gov. whacko" and the rest of that drivel. And do it after you've decided you feel strongly enough about it to post some facts and sources to back it up. Your "feelings" mean exactly squat. I don't make any judgments or decisions based on "feelings". And if you post for "entertainment", post something entertaining, such as a joke or an amusing or interesting story, instead of slobbering some crap you heard from some "media outlet" that you "feel" is correct.
LOL Never mind, you're just not smart enough to get it. Continue on aimlessly as usual.
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LOL Never mind, you're just not smart enough to get it. Continue on aimlessly as usual.
Oh, I get it alright. I get it just fine. Most of us know who it is that doesn't get it.
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LOL Never mind, you're just not smart enough to get it. Continue on aimlessly as usual.
Said the man as he stared into his bathroom mirror.
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virgil... you would have to have the wisdom of a barbera striesand or a matt damon or of maybe a lindsy lohand to "get it"
lazs
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virgil... you would have to have the wisdom of a barbera striesand or a matt damon or of maybe a lindsy lohand to "get it"
lazs
:lol
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Oh, I get it alright. I get it just fine. Most of us know who it is that doesn't get it.
What eva you say cup cake.
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Said the man as he stared into his bathroom mirror.
can you say "trekkie".
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virgil... you would have to have the wisdom of a barbera striesand or a matt damon or of maybe a lindsy lohand to "get it"
lazs
I could think circles around all 3 of you at the same time. The watch it, the first step is a real lulu.
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I could think circles around all 3 of you at the same time. The watch it, the first step is a real lulu.
Show us. Maybe you won't have one of your infamous meltdowns in the process.
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Show us. Maybe you won't have one of your infamous meltdowns in the process.
You haven't matured much have you? You're in a perpetual melt down, typical neo trekkie, BB potato monger. Ya I know the game Virgil, it ain't by first BBQ,... here's your hook back. I don't intimidate, which means you're not going to get far with me. Pump your chest up all you want,...I happen to think you're spewing drivel you know little about. See it's not the subject with you and others, it's the chance to look cool flaming someone.
What ever blows your little skirt up.
<shrug>
Your turn, don't trip.
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You haven't matured much have you? You're in a perpetual melt down, typical neo trekkie, BB potato monger. Ya I know the game Virgil, it ain't by first BBQ,... here's your hook back. I don't intimidate, which means you're not going to get far with me. Pump your chest up all you want,...I happen to think you're spewing drivel you know little about. See it's not the subject with you and others, it's the chance to look cool flaming someone.
What ever blows your little skirt up.
<shrug>
Your turn, don't trip.
I agree, you don't intimidate but you do seem intimidated.
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Animl might actually be a fair replacement for boroda.....
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Animl might actually be a fair replacement for boroda.....
:rofl
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Animl might actually be a fair replacement for boroda.....
Sumatter, am I crimping your "I own the boards" life style?
Sucks when someone is here to challenge the rightie rampages on the boards smuthering them with neo trekkie drivel and half truths, anything at all they can find. Most all political post made today were done by the neos, all all those who take offense at me are ,.. guess what,..... neo trekkies. <shrug>
Snivel about lefties and independents all you want,... all you have to do is read the main menu here to see who's out of control on the political nonsense postings. I call it paranoia. Mccain slips and the worry machine is running full steam.
But liek I said in another post,...your guys flunked twice,... and we're suppose to assume that since you all made mistakes and ignored all the obvious red flags the last two times (because you had a first term as example),.. that you have a clue this time? Get serious, the credibility is zero.
We'll what eva, but 80% of the country thanks neo trekkies for voting them in,... with the middle finger.
Maybe yall should vote in the name of truth this time, instead of victory of party. Hate to inform yall, it's really not a game show.
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You haven't matured much have you? You're in a perpetual melt down, typical neo trekkie, BB potato monger. Ya I know the game Virgil, it ain't by first BBQ,... here's your hook back. I don't intimidate, which means you're not going to get far with me. Pump your chest up all you want,...I happen to think you're spewing drivel you know little about. See it's not the subject with you and others, it's the chance to look cool flaming someone.
What ever blows your little skirt up.
<shrug>
Your turn, don't trip.
I haven't matured much? Read any of your own posts lately? The best you've got is baiting and name calling, same as always. You have not offered anything to back up your position, just more noise. I have no desire to "intimidate" you. You'll flip out just like you always have. And YOU still haven't posted on the subject at all. You have done your usual name calling, and that's about it, which is pretty much all you've got. If it wasn't, and you really WERE the great intellect you claim to be, you'd have posted something of substance, rather than repeating the same weak crap again and again.
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I wish you wouldn't have played your hand too soon virgil but.. I don't think it will matter...
I am looking forward to animals meltdown...
ask him about daddies corvette if you really want to see him go off the deep end.
lazs
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I got a visit by the Alaskan special state police today, seems Palin reads the O'club and wanted to get rid of anyone who says she talks through her nose.
:noid
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Look at me, I'm special! :aok
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I got a visit by the Alaskan special state police today, seems Palin reads the O'club and wanted to get rid of anyone who says she talks through her nose.
:noid
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Animl might actually be a fair replacement for boroda.....
Nah, Boroda, deranged as he was, could still actually frame an argument, take a position and defend it. Animl lacks all of those abilities.
Standby for: Animl: Spew, spew, spew and spew some more