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Title: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 17, 2008, 07:17:16 PM
Can't even handle her e-mail account.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26761804/

This woman used a yahoo account to conduct some of her business as governor of Alaska which is a violation of federal law. Now that e-mail account has been hacked by the group Anonymous who was the same group that was giving the scientologist trouble a few months ago.

Humm I'd imagine that's why it's a violation of federal law, to not use a unofficial e-mail account to conduct governor's business, because it's not secure and might get hacked. The two e-mails were gov.sarah@yahoo and gov.palin@yahoo so it's not like it was "personal" accounts that she might of had some occasional work related dealings on (which is still against federal law btw).

So for all you neo-tards that keep praising this woman like she's the 2nd coming, this is just another example in the long list that shows she's not prepared  to be vice president. I mean seriously what kind of moron uses a non secure yahoo account to conduct state business on? This woman doesn't even have the brains to use a secure gov e-mail address and you guys think she is ready to handle national security.

what will she do with big bad al Qaeda or if the commies come knocking, share cooking recipes and defence strategies with them?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: RedTop on September 17, 2008, 07:23:57 PM
You've got some issues man....seriously. If McCain and Palin win....are you going to leave the country or hurt yourself ?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 17, 2008, 07:25:55 PM
You've got some issues man....seriously. If McCain and Palin win....are you going to leave the country or hurt yourself ?

So you blabbing your mouth off about Obama in every other topic is fine and dandy? But I make a post about your dream queen and I have "issues"?  lol give it up man.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 17, 2008, 07:30:16 PM
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Palin Unveils 9/11 Firefighter Cousin, Reformed Lesbian Niece, Naturalized Mexican Half Brother

September 16, 2008 | Issue 44•38

CARBONDALE, PA—Less than two weeks after introducing to the nation her developmentally disabled newborn and her 19-year-old son preparing for military service in Iraq, Republican vice presidential nominee and conservative Christian woman Sarah Palin delivered a speech Monday flanked by three heretofore-unknown relatives, including a naturalized Mexican half brother, a formerly lesbian niece, and a New York City firefighter cousin who saved several lives during the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks. "John McCain and I will take on the Washington establishment and give the government back to the people," said Palin, who several times gave the "thumbs-up" sign to her African-American coal-miner uncle seated in the audience. "We envision a better and brighter future for hardworking, selfless Americans like Ted, Anne, and Guillermo here." Palin has a campaign stop scheduled next week in Texas, where she is expected to introduce her stepsister Linda, a $35 barrel of offshore-drilled crude oil wrapped in an American flag --onion
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 17, 2008, 07:30:58 PM
Obviously she should have expected her secure Yahoo account to be hacked.  Oh, ya..  she had no reason to.  I have no problem with different points of view and presenting legitimate news but this is just more trash followed by delusional rants.  As above, seriously man, how about having some self respect?  Does relentlessly spamming the board with this drivel really get you off?  It seems like it does and you should evaluate how you handle yourself in public.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 17, 2008, 07:32:53 PM
I really am confused as to what George Fredrick Handel has to do with this issue.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: RedTop on September 17, 2008, 07:35:20 PM
CROCKett....I'm babbling? I just gave the articles....Not much retort...not much extra....

You go out of your way to say...Breaking federal law...make degrading remarks....in every post you make. I don't think I'm alone in my observation that your slightly miffed about Palin being picked and Obama having a hard time staying up in the polls and general news here. He's making mistakes. Not my fault.

Youv'e posted so many negative things about her...it makes ya look strange. Just saying.

And for the record...she aint my dream queen. She lacks in areas I PERSONALLY vote on. But it's no more than Obama.


Edit: I'm sure I have said somethings here and there....but I would argue not NEAR on your scale....feel free to post my babblings if ya like.  :lol
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 17, 2008, 07:37:26 PM
the tool can't even spell handle right.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 17, 2008, 07:39:29 PM
is this the same anonymous from early 2008?

(http://www.cbc.ca/searchengine/blog/Anonymous_by_vickehh.jpg)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Motherland on September 17, 2008, 07:40:44 PM
YES! I saw a thread about this last night. I was wondering if they were going to be able to do it.
Apparently the first attempt failed, and only got the email account locked down.
LMAO.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: RedTop on September 17, 2008, 07:46:24 PM
YES! I saw a thread about this last night. I was wondering if they were going to be able to do it.
Apparently the first attempt failed, and only got the email account locked down.
LMAO.

You find this cool or something? Just wondering.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 17, 2008, 07:46:52 PM
CROCKett....I'm babbling? I just gave the articles....Not much retort...not much extra....

You go out of your way to say...Breaking federal law...make degrading remarks....in every post you make. I don't think I'm alone in my observation that your slightly miffed about Palin being picked and Obama having a hard time staying up in the polls and general news here. He's making mistakes. Not my fault.

Youv'e posted so many negative things about her...it makes ya look strange. Just saying.

And for the record...she aint my dream queen. She lacks in areas I PERSONALLY vote on. But it's no more than Obama.

Give me a break.. before Palin was selected for VP there was barely a topic on this board speciflly about McSame. Yet there was 5 or 6 a day bashing Obama, so many that people were calling it the Obama Club. Now that the shoe is on the other foot you can't take the heat, is that what you are saying?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 17, 2008, 07:47:49 PM
is this the same anonymous from early 2008?

(http://www.cbc.ca/searchengine/blog/Anonymous_by_vickehh.jpg)

Yea the ones who were going after the scientologist.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: RedTop on September 17, 2008, 07:48:59 PM
Huh....

These topics were started by whom? Also...was I in all of them? I don't think so.

edit...on 2nd thought..your slinging the accusations...your burden to prove.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Motherland on September 17, 2008, 07:52:28 PM
You find this cool or something? Just wondering.
It's hilarious.


In any case, doesn't Palin have something else to use beside Yahoo?

Yea the ones who were going after the scientologist.
They're still at it... can't find the most recent video.

Perhaps Palin should by a dog?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba84EL6wO10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba84EL6wO10)


I had to laugh at AOL's branding of Anonymous as a 'left wing' 'group'.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/17/left-wing-group-hacks-palinss-email/?icid=100214839x1209777385x1200590272 (http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/17/left-wing-group-hacks-palinss-email/?icid=100214839x1209777385x1200590272)
O'Reilly has done this as well.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 17, 2008, 07:57:40 PM
It's against Federal law for STATE politicians to use yahoo and other email accounts?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Motherland on September 17, 2008, 08:01:11 PM
It's against Federal law for STATE politicians to use yahoo and other email accounts?
Never said it was (unless you're referring to another post). It's just really, really stupid.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Animl on September 17, 2008, 08:08:30 PM
Yea the ones who were going after the scientologist.

neo trekkies will be,.. well neo trekkies. Not one will ever stay on subject, unless it compliments their party-line. Anything else resembles the frantic flight of pigeons.

<shrug> nice try,... *I* think you're right IMO. The fact that they cling to her like a momma's boob.

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: rpm on September 17, 2008, 08:14:26 PM
That the accounts were hacked is no big deal. The fact she was using a Yahoo account instead of official e-mail to conduct state business IS a big deal.
She was using these accounts to circumvent the law. Official email accounts and messages sent or recieved are subject to the open records act.
The more I hear, the less I like.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 17, 2008, 08:15:06 PM
I really am confused as to what George Fredrick Handel has to do with this issue.

"The name is Messiah; Obamessiah."

<cue 007 theme>
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Motherland on September 17, 2008, 08:27:32 PM
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/oreilly.jpg)
I lol'd
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 17, 2008, 08:29:17 PM
Never said it was (unless you're referring to another post). It's just really, really stupid.

Read the first post in the thread ;)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Motherland on September 17, 2008, 08:30:45 PM
Read the first post in the thread ;)
Oops. I try to get the general idea of crockett's posts and then skip them, reading as little as possible. No offence crockett.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Getback on September 17, 2008, 08:31:36 PM
I'm not so concerned about her handling the codes as I am your spelling (Handel = Handle)  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: RedTop on September 17, 2008, 08:33:05 PM
Oops. I try to get the general idea of crockett's posts and then skip them, reading as little as possible. No offence crockett.

lol...they're all the same ...

Puke Palin.....throw trash Palin....seizure Palin :rofl :cry :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 17, 2008, 08:35:28 PM
Oops. I try to get the general idea of crockett's posts and then skip them, reading as little as possible. No offence crockett.

 :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Meatwad on September 17, 2008, 08:39:18 PM
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/oreilly.jpg)
I lol'd

LOL far left internet hate group  :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 17, 2008, 08:41:55 PM
It's against Federal law for STATE politicians to use yahoo and other email accounts?

Yes, as RPM posted it's part of the open records act or what ever the actual law is called. It requires all govt agencies to use official letter head, e-mail address and so on for any dealings pertaining to a govt job, it carries over to the states as well. This is to insure there is records kept to help stop shady back room dealings, like what Palin is accused of doing.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 17, 2008, 08:45:12 PM
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/oreilly.jpg)
I lol'd

lol now that is funny..
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Yeager on September 17, 2008, 09:31:39 PM
Im going to stick with the gal as the slander attacks (well anticipated) intensify.  She has more balls then this boards collective testicular weight (2.7 grams at last count).
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 17, 2008, 09:32:49 PM
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/oreilly.jpg)
I lol'd

 :lol :lol :lol

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Yeager on September 17, 2008, 09:33:54 PM
The fact she was using a Yahoo account instead of official e-mail to conduct state business IS a big deal.
I use my private email account for "some" company communications.  No big deal to me or the company....as long as I obey the corporate guidelines, and the law.

Whats the law she is breaking anyway?  
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Animl on September 17, 2008, 09:37:40 PM
Im going to stick with the gal as the slander attacks (well anticipated) intensify.  She has more balls then this boards collective testicular weight (2.7 grams at last count).

Easy to have balls when you lie about having them. She's pretty habitual on half truths. But to each their own, I find it entertaining.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 17, 2008, 09:38:09 PM
The Sekrit Code of Anonymous

    * Anonymous is devoid of humanity, morality, pity, and mercy.
    * Anonymous works as one, because none of us are as cruel as all of us.
    * Anonymous cannot be harmed, no matter how many Anonymous may fall in battle.
    * Anonymous doesn't fall in battle, anyway.
    * Anonymous only undertakes Serious Business.
 
    * Anonymous is everyone
    * Anonymous is everywhere.
    * Anonymous cannot be out-numbered.
    * Anonymous is a hydra, constantly moving, constantly changing. Remove one head, and ten replace it.
 
    * Anonymous reinforces its ranks exponentially at need.
    * Anonymous has no weakness or flaw.
    * Anonymous exploits all weaknesses and flaws.
 
    * Anonymous doesn't have a family or friends.
    * Anonymous is your family and friends.
    * Anonymous is not your friend.
    * Anonymous is not your personal army.
    * Anonymous is in control at all times.
    * Anonymous does not accept failure, Anonymous delivers.
    * Anonymous has no identity.
    * Anonymous cannot be betrayed.
    * Anonymous does it for the lulz.
 
    * Anonymous is humanity.
    * Anonymous are created as equals.
    * Anonymous is a choice.
    * Anonymous is a unstoppable force.
    * If Anonymous must have a name, his name is David.
 
    * Anonymous obeys the CODE.
    * Anonymous is LEGION.
    * Anonymous DOES NOT FORGIVE.
    * Anonymous DOES NOT FORGET.
    * Expect us.

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 17, 2008, 09:45:05 PM
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Anonymous
Title: Open Govt.
Post by: bongaroo on September 17, 2008, 10:22:27 PM
Maybe back on topic but probably not.

I don't like secrecy in government.  Open government makes our democracy easier to maintain while fighting corruption and revealing cronyism.  Conducting state business on a personal email whether covering or hiding something or not shouldn't be tolerated.

Our governor here in NC recently had an issue arise over handling emails.

Does anyone think that an open government is bad and truthfully lay out some good reasons for it to be so. 
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 17, 2008, 10:31:55 PM
So you blabbing your mouth off about Obama in every other topic is fine and dandy? But I make a post about your dream queen and I have "issues"?  lol give it up man.

OBAMA GOT WHERE HE IS BECAUSE OF AN ACTUAL TERRORIST!!


Kinda scary isn't it? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Chalenge on September 18, 2008, 01:34:00 AM
Can anyone link to a site that states the law prohibiting the use of yahoo by government employees?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 18, 2008, 05:53:15 AM
Public Records Act.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: bongaroo on September 18, 2008, 06:54:25 AM
Zing!
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2008, 07:37:54 AM
looks like crockett is batin over Palin again

you gonna go blind boy if you don't cut it out LOL
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2008, 07:57:33 AM
Can't even handle her e-mail account.

So by your logic, if someone hacks into your bank account when you are not aware, can we blame you for being stupid and not being there to protect it?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: lazs2 on September 18, 2008, 08:17:27 AM
I know very little about puters and less about hacking..  If I were to become pres I would hire people to tell me what security to use and how to use it... You have to be some efite liberal wussy to think that the average voter is gonna be outraged that she used the same mail that all of them do...

They are gonna be outraged that even more liberal wussies are going after Palin..   the pic of the fox guy and the blub is maybe funny if you are a regular watcher of jon 'make a funny face' stewart but to middle American voters.. that and the "code" of the guy who did it scream.. big time lawyer as politician same old same old attack and corrupt crap.

crock-it.. you are turning more people to Mccain/Palin than I could ever do.

lazs
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 08:22:33 AM
Quote
crock-it.. you are turning more people to Mccain/Palin than I could ever do.

I wasn't even interested in this Election cycle until Crockett came along screaming and yelling about every little thing about Sarah Palin. Look at me now, I've registered to vote and I am going to vote against his boy Obama simply because I don't want anyone that Crockett supports in charge.  :salute
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: ROX on September 18, 2008, 08:26:18 AM
The International Association of Crackpotterty gives this thread a 1.4.


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ROX
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: lazs2 on September 18, 2008, 08:34:13 AM
yep elfie.. the liberal socialist machine is huge and it is young and energetic and it is mean as all hell..

It is full of entertainers and talking heads and teachers and people that.. on a day to day basis.. we put up with cause.. well.. we mind our own business but..

They are young and/or out of touch with reality and real peoples lives and.. so long as things are going their way... entertaining and genial...

When things aren't going their way.. the real face comes out..the hacker and the idiot entertainer babbling on about crap he has no clue.. the mean spirited vitriol of the young mush heads like crock-it..

The talking heads.. used to having no one protest their bias..  ramp up their BS to the point that Mr and Mrs.. (not ms) get more than annoyed.. they get offended. then they get mad.. and then they teach the aholes a lesson.

Thank you crock-it for being such an obvious and obnoxious tool and steering real voters to the polls.

lazs
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: croduh on September 18, 2008, 08:36:38 AM
Lol, 4chan, hahaha. :lol
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: john9001 on September 18, 2008, 08:47:39 AM
This woman used a yahoo account to conduct some of her business as governor of Alaska which is a violation of federal law.


for the uninformed the yahoo account is her personal account, but yes a federal law was broken, it was broken by the people that hacked the account, and they will go to jail.

crockett=fail
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 08:57:46 AM

for the uninformed the yahoo account is her personal account, but yes a federal law was broken, it was broken by the people that hacked the account, and they will go to jail.

crockett=fail

That is the information I am waiting on, verification that this email account is either personal (and being used for .gov purposes) or personal and just used for personal uses or an *official* account actually used for government purposes.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2008, 09:00:24 AM
The International Association of Crackpotterty gives this thread a 1.4.


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lol... you continually amaze me.
Title: Re: Open Govt.
Post by: bongaroo on September 18, 2008, 09:03:47 AM
Maybe back on topic but probably not.

I don't like secrecy in government.  Open government makes our democracy easier to maintain while fighting corruption and revealing cronyism.  Conducting state business on a personal email whether covering or hiding something or not shouldn't be tolerated.

Our governor here in NC recently had an issue arise over handling emails.

Does anyone think that an open government is bad and truthfully lay out some good reasons for it to be so. 

No one responds to the reasonable questions or comments.  Just "your a stinking liberal poopface" and more mudslinging.  No wonder the national campaigns are all smears, it's all anyone does in here too.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Shamus on September 18, 2008, 09:24:19 AM
I use my private email account for "some" company communications.  No big deal to me or the company....as long as I obey the corporate guidelines, and the law.

Whats the law she is breaking anyway?  

You and your company are not bound by FOIA laws, government officials and employees are.

shamus
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: WilldCrd on September 18, 2008, 11:24:47 AM
Can't even handle her e-mail account.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26761804/

This woman used a yahoo account to conduct some of her business as governor of Alaska which is a violation of federal law. Now that e-mail account has been hacked by the group Anonymous who was the same group that was giving the scientologist trouble a few months ago.

Humm I'd imagine that's why it's a violation of federal law, to not use a unofficial e-mail account to conduct governor's business, because it's not secure and might get hacked. The two e-mails were gov.sarah@yahoo and gov.palin@yahoo so it's not like it was "personal" accounts that she might of had some occasional work related dealings on (which is still against federal law btw).

So for all you neo-tards that keep praising this woman like she's the 2nd coming, this is just another example in the long list that shows she's not prepared  to be vice president. I mean seriously what kind of moron uses a non secure yahoo account to conduct state business on? This woman doesn't even have the brains to use a secure gov e-mail address and you guys think she is ready to handle national security.

what will she do with big bad al Qaeda or if the commies come knocking, share cooking recipes and defence strategies with them?


tell me, WTF does her yahoo email acct have to do with nuke codes? It aint like they store them on her kids PC.! :noid

I mean really, this the best you can come up with? :confused:
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2008, 11:31:55 AM

tell me, WTF does her yahoo email acct have to do with nuke codes? It aint like they store them on her kids PC.! :noid

I mean really, this the best you can come up with? :confused:

straws man... the liberals are grasping for straws.


I do believe they will manufacture some sort of lie before the election that will in some way smear Palin and possibly tip the election to the democrats. 

The problem with that is going to come when it is found out and proved to be a lie, the poo is going to hit the fan with the common man possibly rising up and kicking the poo out of both the parties.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Denholm on September 18, 2008, 11:31:58 AM
...This woman used a yahoo account to conduct some of her business as governor of Alaska which is a violation of federal law. Now that e-mail account has been hacked by the group Anonymous who was the same group that was giving the scientologist trouble a few months ago...
He doesn't even use the proper term. If her email was hacked, it was fixed. So if Palin calls someone to fix an issue that's occurring, she is obviously ready to fix some of the problems on Capitol Hill.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: WilldCrd on September 18, 2008, 11:37:04 AM
The biggest thing I like about her is that she has been FAR FAR removed from Washington politics! :D That alone should get her votes

seems like everybody in Washington these days is connected to something like Freddie/Fannie. Either taking money from lobbyists or being a lobbyist for em.


Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: midnight Target on September 18, 2008, 11:41:10 AM
Woohooo... lets elect somebody who doesn't have a clue... yeah boy howdy that'll be good. She's just a regular gal like aunt marveen over to the trailer park. She can shoot too. Sure don't want none of those darned ivory tower leftist educated types. Certainly don't need no "elitists" with all that book learning and such.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bronk on September 18, 2008, 11:44:42 AM
Woohooo... lets elect somebody who doesn't have a clue...
You are right... why elect obama?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 12:31:01 PM
Woohooo... lets elect somebody who doesn't have a clue... yeah boy howdy that'll be good. She's just a regular gal like aunt marveen over to the trailer park. She can shoot too. Sure don't want none of those darned ivory tower leftist educated types. Certainly don't need no "elitists" with all that book learning and such.

This entire post might have some relevance if the election was Obama vs Palin, but it's not. It's Obama vs McCain.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Nwbie on September 18, 2008, 12:42:58 PM
This entire post might have some relevance if the election was Obama vs Palin, but it's not. It's Obama vs McCain.

Not a flame post - just an observation and my take on the concerns

The age of McCain
The reality is - if you look at all the past presidents, how they look on the first day in office..and what they look like after 4 years... every one of them has aged considerably... it is a highly stressful job - imagine realizing you are responsible for all of us ijots --
The reality is: - it is very apparent that the likelihood is - Palin will be the president within the next 4 years, If you are ignoring that fact, well that is your prerogative... but I look at McCain and say - he will have a tuff time of it physically, it is way more stressful of a job than senator..we are electing between 3 presidential position choices..
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: batdog on September 18, 2008, 12:45:14 PM
Woohooo... lets elect somebody who doesn't have a clue... yeah boy howdy that'll be good. She's just a regular gal like aunt marveen over to the trailer park. She can shoot too. Sure don't want none of those darned ivory tower leftist educated types. Certainly don't need no "elitists" with all that book learning and such.

No, lets just elect some pretty face who hasnt done jack, lead jack or seen jack.Lets do it because its the feel good thing to do and it'll make history.

Hilary could do the job, COlin Powel if he was crazy enough would get my vote in heart beat. I'm going to vote for some biotch and his wifey poo who ranted about "whities"? Who's pastor of 20+ yrs (?) spouted off some hardcore hate stuff and who seemly has ties to at least one radical "ex terrorist" now tenered professor???? !!!!!

Check his voting record..... what major reform, bills etc has he introduced? What has he done? All i hear is a bunch of "change" this "change" that!!!

He's just as much of a tool as GWB (and yea i voted for the idiot twice), Rush, and others.






Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: john9001 on September 18, 2008, 12:51:46 PM
No, lets just elect some pretty face who hasnt done jack, lead jack or seen jack.Lets do it because its the feel good thing to do and it'll make history.

you are right, obama was only a comunity organizer, how is he qualified to be president?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Nwbie on September 18, 2008, 12:59:22 PM
you are right, obama was only a comunity organizer, how is he qualified to be president?

you read too many right wing posts
There are actually sites out there that go over each candidates records and what they have actually been doing...
For instance - in the Senate Obama sponsored 4 bills - in his limited time there .... oh and for 22 years so has McCain....
But a fair and honest assessment would also show that while he was only able to get his name on that few - he did attempt quite a bit more...but he was not all that well liked by the republicans in the senate and congress... so he couldn't get them passed.....
luckily, now that they have to listen to him... he could get something done... but alas too late.... he is too busy now....
This is a crazy election.. all the loons are flying in circles around the pond

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: batdog on September 18, 2008, 01:04:34 PM

Oh and also he couldn't get a friggen security clearance w/his known associates and an admitted cocaine addiction (check out his first book) for the military if he had to and he's going to be president of the US of A.. which defies reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 18, 2008, 01:04:46 PM
yep elfie.. the liberal socialist machine is huge and it is young and energetic and it is mean as all hell..

It is full of entertainers and talking heads and teachers and people that.. on a day to day basis.. we put up with cause.. well.. we mind our own business but..

They are young and/or out of touch with reality and real peoples lives and.. so long as things are going their way... entertaining and genial...

When things aren't going their way.. the real face comes out..the hacker and the idiot entertainer babbling on about crap he has no clue.. the mean spirited vitriol of the young mush heads like crock-it..

The talking heads.. used to having no one protest their bias..  ramp up their BS to the point that Mr and Mrs.. (not ms) get more than annoyed.. they get offended. then they get mad.. and then they teach the aholes a lesson.

Thank you crock-it for being such an obvious and obnoxious tool and steering real voters to the polls.

lazs

I found a picture of Lazs uncle on wikipedia..

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Karl_Marx.jpg)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Yeager on September 18, 2008, 01:05:25 PM
She's pretty habitual on half truths. But to each their own, I find it entertaining.
I guess if you were saying that she is just like every other politican in government I might concede the argument but I dont think thats what your saying.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 18, 2008, 01:12:57 PM
So by your logic, if someone hacks into your bank account when you are not aware, can we blame you for being stupid and not being there to protect it?

She is a state Governor and by law is supposed to use official e-mail accounts that are secure. It's her fault that she used the most vulnerable free e-mail account on the net. Yahoo is one of the worst for getting hacked. She was provided with a office and safe account to use, she choose to conduct state business on a non-secure e-mail account that just shows she was trying to hide the e-mails and willingly broke the law or is just out right stupid. Take your pick..
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 18, 2008, 01:15:13 PM
straws man... the liberals are grasping for straws.


I do believe they will manufacture some sort of lie before the election that will in some way smear Palin and possibly tip the election to the democrats. 

The problem with that is going to come when it is found out and proved to be a lie, the poo is going to hit the fan with the common man possibly rising up and kicking the poo out of both the parties.

what lie does anyone need.. this woman is a train wreck if you look at the facts with out the rosy colored republican sunglasses.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 18, 2008, 01:19:38 PM
you are right, obama was only a comunity organizer, how is he qualified to be president?

He was elected to the Illinois state senate as a state legislature in 1997 and served there until he ran for US senate.

Try to educate yourself somewhere besides the O'Reilly show..


"Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, succeeding State Senator Alice Palmer as Senator from the Illinois' 13th District, which then spanned Chicago South Side neighborhoods from Hyde Park-Kenwood south to South Shore and west to Chicago Lawn.[28] Once elected, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[29] He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[30] In 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting home foreclosures.[31]

Obama was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998, and again in 2002.[32] In 2000, he lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to one.[33][34]

In January 2003, Obama became chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee when Democrats, after a decade in the minority, regained a majority.[35] He sponsored and led unanimous, bipartisan passage of legislation to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they detained and legislation making Illinois the first state to mandate videotaping of homicide interrogations.[30][36] During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.[37] Obama resigned from the Illinois Senate in November 2004 following his election to the US Senate.[38]

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Yeager on September 18, 2008, 01:20:34 PM
this woman is a train wreck
Lets get back after the Veep debates and re evaluate the topic.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 18, 2008, 01:23:03 PM
Lets get back after the Veep debates and re evaluate the topic.

Ok lets get back to that.. What exactly did she do other than play a cheerleader?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 01:34:46 PM
Not a flame post - just an observation and my take on the concerns

The age of McCain
The reality is - if you look at all the past presidents, how they look on the first day in office..and what they look like after 4 years... every one of them has aged considerably... it is a highly stressful job - imagine realizing you are responsible for all of us ijots --
The reality is: - it is very apparent that the likelihood is - Palin will be the president within the next 4 years, If you are ignoring that fact, well that is your prerogative... but I look at McCain and say - he will have a tuff time of it physically, it is way more stressful of a job than senator..we are electing between 3 presidential position choices..


Sure, I agree completely that presidents age considerably while in office, the stress is enormous. McCain is what? 72 now? As long as he has no health concerns atm, I don't see a problem. Granted he is old, but I'm not going to hold that against him. :)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: lazs2 on September 18, 2008, 02:33:46 PM
my dad is 80..  I would bet the farm that not one of the liberal metrosexuals on this board.. or osamabinbiden could last a whole day plastering a house of pouring and finishing concrete with him.   My guess is that 90% would be blubbering before noon.

lazs
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: midnight Target on September 18, 2008, 02:34:22 PM
I'd take that bet.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Kaw1000 on September 18, 2008, 02:39:00 PM
you are right, obama was only a comunity organizer, how is he qualified to be president?

Obama Community organizer= getting blacks in Chicago to register to vote.
then running for office and having those same folks vote for him!!!
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2008, 03:09:50 PM
She is a state Governor and by law is supposed to use official e-mail accounts that are secure. It's her fault that she used the most vulnerable free e-mail account on the net. Yahoo is one of the worst for getting hacked. She was provided with a office and safe account to use, she choose to conduct state business on a non-secure e-mail account that just shows she was trying to hide the e-mails and willingly broke the law or is just out right stupid. Take your pick..


Can you prove that she used the email for government purposes?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2008, 03:14:40 PM
what lie does anyone need.. this woman is a train wreck if you look at the facts with out the rosy colored republican sunglasses.

The only facts I see being slung around seem to support that she is what she portrays:  a hard working Mom, strong moral character, and someone who is kicking the hell out the old crooked bastards in her state.

Liberals like yourself seem to be concerned with slandering based on rumor, trying to ruin her family life, and basically spreading lies in an effort to discredit her so your blessed savior Obama might still get elected.


It's really sad how low you liberals will stoop to try and discredit this woman.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2008, 04:15:35 PM
Obama Community organizer= getting blacks in Chicago to register to vote.
then running for office and having those same folks vote for him!!!

and then rigging who he actually has to run off against

How Obama steals elections one at a time - CNN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B_G5SczZtY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B_G5SczZtY)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 18, 2008, 04:22:51 PM
The only facts I see being slung around seem to support that she is what she portrays: 


“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.  Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God."

Whacko, really whacko. :O

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 18, 2008, 04:35:32 PM
The story behind the Palin e-mail hacking (http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/17/the-story-behind-the-palin-e-mail-hacking/)
By Michelle Malkin   
September 17, 2008 07:31 PM

(http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/palinhack2.jpg)

I mentioned an infamous group of hackers whose Internet bulletin board was the gathering place for those who bragged about and publicized the Sarah Palin private e-mail hacking.
A tech-savvy reader who monitors the hackers’ site e-mailed me a detailed explanation of how it went down, who was responsible, and how someone with a conscience warned a friend of the Palin family of the crime (language warning):
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 18, 2008, 04:37:16 PM
Quote
I missed the original incident, but monitored the discussion and repostings afterward to see what I could learn about what had happened and who was responsible.

There are several misconceptions and errors in most accounts of this story, including your post. Most significantly, the perpetrator(s) were not members of an infamous group of hackers. I don’t blame you for misunderstanding this, because in all the media coverage regarding the war with Scientology the media has completely failed to explain what Anonymous is.

Anonymous is not exactly a group. It is people using the umbrella of a web discussion board for cover to be as offensive, funny, strange, or whatever as they want.

Here’s the short version: there is a site called ###chan.org. It is an image posting site based on a popular Japanese site (http://www.2chan.net/). The site contains multiple boards, each of which is dedicated to a particular subject. The most notorious of these boards is called /b/. /b/ is the board dedicated to random images. /b/tards, as its denizens are called, are interested only in their own amusement. Their sense of humor runs the gamut from sick to cruel to merely strange. Lolcats, as made famous by http://www.icanhascheezburger.com, originated on /b/. A lot of memes start there. There is a lot of racist humor — pictures of excited and happy black people in proximity to fried chicken abound. There is a lot of pornography. Sometimes it’s child pornography, although posting that is moderator grounds for banning — no, it’s not a pedophile ring; /b/tards post it because they think doing so is funny.

###chan does not log participants. Most people don’t use or have usernames, and post instead as “Anonymous.” And every so often, a number of /b/’s anonymous denizens decide to make somebody’s life hell. Sometimes it’s a random person who offends /b/’s sense of propriety. Sometimes it’s a forum dedicated to a serious topic. Sometimes it’s Scientology. And Tuesday, it was Sarah Palin. Or it would have been.

Sarah Palin’s email account was hacked by one person. Not a group.

This person read her emails, then posted the username and password on /b/. This happened at about 4 in the morning on Tuesday. The idea was that the sea of Anonymous /b/tards would download the emails, upload porn, and cause all manner of mischief. Anonymous is not a group of hackers. Anonymous is more like gremlins. They are hyperactive adolescents in search of amusement and joy, which they often get by upsetting people and making messes. That’s what was happening here. Anonymous did not hack the account. A hacker tried to throw Sarah Palin to Anonymous. Not all of Anonymous was having it. One person threw a crowbar in the works. Other /b/tards were displeased to miss a chance at the lulz. The moderators stepped in. The thread was deleted.

Later, other individuals created threads reposting screencaps of emails and the inbox, and put together a collection of these files. All mentions of these were purged by the moderators. So then some bright /b/tards decided to email what little stuff they had to the media.

That’s pretty much it.

This afternoon, in a thread that was later deleted, an individual claiming to be the original poster gave his account of what happened. I’ve attached screencaps. Here’s the text. The original poster used the name “rubico.” The linked email address for the poster was rubico10@yahoo.com.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 18, 2008, 04:37:58 PM
This is what rubico said:

Quote
rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:57:22 No.85782652

Hello, /b/ as many of you might already know, last night sarah palin’s yahoo was “hacked” and caps were posted on /b/, i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story.

In the past couple days news had come to light about palin using a yahoo mail account, it was in news stories and such, a thread was started full of newstuds trying to do something that would not get this off the ground, for the next 2 hours the acct was locked from password recovery presumably from all this bullpoop spamming.

after the password recovery was reenabled, it took seriously 45 mins on wikipedia and google to find the info, Birthday? 15 seconds on wikipedia, zip code? well she had always been from wasilla, and it only has 2 zip codes (thanks online postal service!)

the second was somewhat harder, the question was “where did you meet your spouse?” did some research, and apparently she had eloped with mister palin after college, if youll look on some of the screenpoops that I took and other fellow anon have so graciously put on photobucket you will see the google search for “palin eloped” or some such in one of the tabs.

I found out later though more research that they met at high school, so I did variations of that, high, high school, eventually hit on “Wasilla high” I promptly changed the password to popcorn and took a cold shower…

Quote
>> rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:58:04 No.85782727

this is all verifiable if some anal /b/tard wants to think Im a troll, and there isn’t any hard proof to the contrary, but anyone who had followed the thread from the beginning to the 404 will know I probably am not, the picture I posted this topic with is the same one as the original thread.

I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family

I then started a topic on /b/, peeps asked for pics or gtfo and I obliged, then it started to get big

Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this poop ever got to the FBI I was masked, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to rapidpoop all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state

Then the white knight masker came along, and did it in for everyone, I trusted /b/ with that email password, I had gotten done what I could do well, then passed the torch , all to be let down by the sweetheartbaggery, good job /b/, this is why we cant have nice things

The “white knight masker” was the /b/tard who thought that going through Sarah Palin’s email wasn’t cool. He logged in, changed the password, and sent an email to a friend of Palin’s warning her and letting her know the new password. Unfortunately, he then posted a screenshot of this email to let the other /b/tards know their fun was over. He failed to blank the password, and they all tried to log in and change the password — which tripped the automated Yahoo! freeze. Since then, the account has been deleted. “Rapidpoop” refers to rapidshare.com — i.e., rubico wanted to download the emails, put them into one file, and put that file up on rapidshare for /b/tards and the world at large to download. But he panicked, or didn’t know how to download the emails, and so pawned that task off on Anonymous, which he didn’t realize wasn’t monolithic and in his favor.

As Paul Harvey would say, “And now you know…. the rest of the story.”[/i]
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Nwbie on September 18, 2008, 04:40:08 PM
my dad is 80..  I would bet the farm that not one of the liberal metrosexuals on this board.. or osamabinbiden could last a whole day plastering a house of pouring and finishing concrete with him.   My guess is that 90% would be blubbering before noon.

lazs

lol

have your dad play a game of 1 on 1 basketball with Obama - or if that matters - you play him
then see if you want to go any farther

but not like your post actually was all that well thought out, because if it was...well you probably wouldn't have hit the post button
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2008, 04:44:12 PM
I highly suspect someone or one's will be getting some serious visits from the FBI.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Motherland on September 18, 2008, 04:44:36 PM
Moot (4chan's founder/admin) likes to change the /b/ board name occasionally (it's usually /b/-Random). Apparently O'Reilly had a meltdown last night, I'm assuming despicable, slimy, and scummy were some of the adjectives he used to describe the site. Logged on today to see this-
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/DISPICABLESLIMYSCUMMYcensored.jpg)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 18, 2008, 04:49:55 PM
that site is so bad... even spammers won't  bother posting there
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Motherland on September 18, 2008, 04:51:03 PM
that site is so bad... even spammers won't  bother posting there
"Urinating in an ocean of urine" as they say. Not verbatim but it would be wordfiltered any way.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2008, 04:57:46 PM
"Urinating in an ocean of urine" as they say. Not verbatim but it would be wordfiltered any way.

That site has some really disturbing stuff on it.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 18, 2008, 04:58:26 PM
“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.  Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God."

Whacko, really whacko. :O

You are not understanding...

“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God."

Simplicating... Pray 'that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from god'

Means pray that out leaders are correct.  

This is not whacko.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 18, 2008, 05:00:52 PM
That site has some really disturbing stuff on it.

Welcome to the internets.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2008, 05:01:54 PM
Welcome to the internets.

Hell, if you got caught looking at half that stuff they'd lock you up and throw away the key....
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 05:25:25 PM
Can you prove that she used the email for government purposes?

All I have seen so far is accusations, I'll wait until she is charged with violating the law.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2008, 05:27:20 PM
All I have seen so far is accusations, I'll wait until she is charged with violating the law.

I agree... it really is sickening to see this crap being tried in the press.  What ever happened to "due process" and "innocent until proven guilty".

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 05:40:08 PM
I agree... it really is sickening to see this crap being tried in the press.  What ever happened to "due process" and "innocent until proven guilty".



No, no, no.....you have it all wrong Bodhi. If you are a politician, especially a female one with children, it's innocent until accused.  :uhoh
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: WMLute on September 18, 2008, 05:47:20 PM
“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.  Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God."

Whacko, really whacko. :O



Quote
she was asking the church to pray that the things that were being done would be what God wants done...that we as America WOULD do the right thing, not saying that we ARE doing God's task

nothing what so ever wacko about that.

I would like to think that EVERYBODY would hope and pray that we are doing the right thing and what God would want us to do.

Explain to me again how that is bad?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: gwano on September 18, 2008, 06:00:08 PM
Can't even handle her e-mail account.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26761804/

This woman used a yahoo account to conduct some of her business as governor of Alaska which is a violation of federal law. Now that e-mail account has been hacked by the group Anonymous who was the same group that was giving the scientologist trouble a few months ago.

Humm I'd imagine that's why it's a violation of federal law, to not use a unofficial e-mail account to conduct governor's business, because it's not secure and might get hacked. The two e-mails were gov.sarah@yahoo and gov.palin@yahoo so it's not like it was "personal" accounts that she might of had some occasional work related dealings on (which is still against federal law btw).

So for all you neo-tards that keep praising this woman like she's the 2nd coming, this is just another example in the long list that shows she's not prepared  to be vice president. I mean seriously what kind of moron uses a non secure yahoo account to conduct state business on? This woman doesn't even have the brains to use a secure gov e-mail address and you guys think she is ready to handle national security.

what will she do with big bad al Qaeda or if the commies come knocking, share cooking recipes and defence strategies with them?

And hacking into those accounts is legal?
The Obama campaign certainly is overtly culpable.
time to do some police work and discover who put these hackers up to this and lock up somebody.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Meatwad on September 18, 2008, 06:19:07 PM
That site has some really disturbing stuff on it.

Depends where you look. Food/Cooking and Animals/nature are really interesting. There can be some great things to read and enjoy, just depends where on the board you visit.

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 18, 2008, 07:27:08 PM
I got to see plenty of pics of Georgian war there.

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Motherland on September 18, 2008, 07:29:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X8NJL3W2U8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X8NJL3W2U8)
O'Reilly's segment... "I'm going to call the Attorney General tomorrow" lol.

There's a movement going on right now to try to get everyone to DDoS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS#Distributed_attack) Fox's website... lol
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: mg1942 on September 18, 2008, 07:57:06 PM
 :uhoh

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 18, 2008, 08:03:26 PM


I would like to think that EVERYBODY would hope and pray that we are doing the right thing and what God would want us to do.


which God?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 18, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
which God?

The one you worship. If you don't already have one, one will be appointed for you. Let me run off a copy for you...

(http://twistedoak.typepad.com/twisted_oak_winery_twiste/images/2008/finalist.duman1024.jpg)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Meatwad on September 18, 2008, 10:14:30 PM
Whats it say around its neck
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: WMLute on September 18, 2008, 10:16:39 PM
which God?

you think there is more than one?

what are my choices?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Meatwad on September 18, 2008, 10:48:57 PM
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: rpm on September 18, 2008, 11:00:12 PM
No, no, no.....you have it all wrong Bodhi. If you are a politician, especially a female one with children, it's innocent until accused.  :uhoh
Hmm, now she knows what Hillary has gone thru.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 18, 2008, 11:09:11 PM
Whats it say around its neck

'In God We Trust. All others, cash please & in small bills.'
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 11:21:16 PM
The one you worship. If you don't already have one, one will be appointed for you. Let me run off a copy for you...

(http://twistedoak.typepad.com/twisted_oak_winery_twiste/images/2008/finalist.duman1024.jpg)

 :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 11:22:26 PM
Hmm, now she knows what Hillary has gone thru.

I don't know that Hillary has had to put up with crap to the same extent that Palin has already......
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 18, 2008, 11:37:24 PM
Can you prove that she used the email for government purposes?

humm its takes a rocket scientist to figure out that  what she was using  gov.sarah@yahoo and gov.palin@yahoo for.. and yes it can be proven all you have to do is look at the e-mails.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Nwbie on September 18, 2008, 11:38:21 PM
I don't know that Hillary has had to put up with crap to the same extent that Palin has already......

uhhh where you been for the last 16 or so years?
lol...Hillary has had more press enemas than any woman in politics...not that they weren't brought on by her and bill...just that ...that statement is kinda lame ...stop the knee jerk defense mechanism.... discourse requires thought
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 18, 2008, 11:39:33 PM
The only facts I see being slung around seem to support that she is what she portrays:  a hard working Mom, strong moral character, and someone who is kicking the hell out the old crooked bastards in her state.

Liberals like yourself seem to be concerned with slandering based on rumor, trying to ruin her family life, and basically spreading lies in an effort to discredit her so your blessed savior Obama might still get elected.


It's really sad how low you liberals will stoop to try and discredit this woman.

It's not rumor when it's fact.. Why is it you continue to claim it's a rumor when it not? Is it anything you don't want to believe equals rumor?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 11:42:45 PM
uhhh where you been for the last 16 or so years?
lol...Hillary has had more press enemas than any woman in politics...not that they weren't brought on by her and bill...just that ...that statement is kinda lame ...stop the knee jerk defense mechanism.... discourse requires thought


Hillary has been in politics for 16 years by your own admission.

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I don't know that Hillary has had to put up with crap to the same extent that Palin has already......

Maybe this just wasn't clear enough? Sarah Palin has been in the national spotlight for approximately 3 weeks now? Look at the media blitz on her already. I sure don't recall that same kind of media blitz on Hillary during her first 3 weeks in politics. Hillary's daughter has generally been left out of the spotlight as well. We can't say the same for Sarah's children can we?

Maybe when Sarah Palin has been around for 16 years we can compare Hillary's first 16 years to Sarah's. :)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: rpm on September 18, 2008, 11:43:52 PM
I don't know that Hillary has had to put up with crap to the same extent that Palin has already......
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 11:44:20 PM
It's not rumor when it's fact.. Why is it you continue to claim it's a rumor when it not? Is it anything you don't want to believe equals rumor?

So far it is not fact that she used her yahoo mail for government purposes, that is only alleged at this point. However, it is fact that the yahoo mail was hacked. ;)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 18, 2008, 11:44:40 PM
No, no, no.....you have it all wrong Bodhi. If you are a politician, especially a female one with children, it's innocent until accused.  :uhoh

That's pretty funny coming from you..  :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 18, 2008, 11:46:25 PM

doh!
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 11:47:50 PM
That's pretty funny coming from you..  :rofl

When have I ever supported anything other than innocent until proven guilty on this board? :)

*edit*

All politicians in this country seem to be guilty when accused by people on both sides of the fence. Is it right? Of course not, and that's what my post was alluding to.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Nwbie on September 18, 2008, 11:52:24 PM
Hillary has been in politics for 16 years by your own admission.

Maybe this just wasn't clear enough? Sarah Palin has been in the national spotlight for approximately 3 weeks now? Look at the media blitz on her already. I sure don't recall that same kind of media blitz on Hillary during her first 3 weeks in politics. Hillary's daughter has generally been left out of the spotlight as well. We can't say the same for Sarah's children can we?

Maybe when Sarah Palin has been around for 16 years we can compare Hillary's first 16 years to Sarah's. :)
LOL... Elfie...don't dig the hole so deep...Hillary was married to Bill, he was the Governor of AR-Kansas -- they were getting enmas then...Blackwater...hear of it?...Press secretary ...suicide...hear of it? there is more ... ummmm... only 80 characters allowed..never mind...
Hillary has been poked and prodded for longer than Palin has been out of high school...stop yourself while you have a chance
I'm not defending her --I'm saying stop typing ... you are dangerously close to falling over on your right side ...put some pillows on the floor...Palin deserves all the scrutinity she gets...she said ok.I'll run as vp... if she has demons to hide...well then she is a dope for doing it...and McCain is a dope for picking her...don't worry...she will be fine, or not..she seems confident about it..you should too.


Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Nwbie on September 18, 2008, 11:55:58 PM
So far it is not fact that she used her yahoo mail for government purposes, that is only alleged at this point. However, it is fact that the yahoo mail was hacked. ;)
Yeah by some college kid - who i hope gets nailed by the feds...but don't blame Obama or his camp, or say it was a darn flaming liberal....jeez it was a hacker...
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: rpm on September 18, 2008, 11:56:39 PM
LOL... Elfie...don't dig the hole so deep...Hillary was married to Bill, he was the Governor of AR-Kansas -- they were getting enmas then...Blackwater...hear of it?...Press secretary ...suicide...hear of it? there is more ... ummmm... only 80 characters allowed..never mind...
Hillary has been poked and prodded for longer than Palin has been out of high school...stop yourself while you have a chance
I'm not defending her --I'm saying stop typing ... you are dangerously close to falling over on your right side ...put some pillows on the floor...Palin deserves all the scrutinity she gets...she said ok.I'll run as vp... if she has demons to hide...well then she is a dope for doing it...and McCain is a dope for picking her...don't worry...she will be fine, or not..she seems confident about it..you should too.



BINGO!
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 18, 2008, 11:56:55 PM
I don't know that Hillary has had to put up with crap to the same extent that Palin has already......

Hillary was a known politician on the national and even world level. People know her background and she's been through the media circus in the past.. How easy it is, for you to forget all the crap the right wing give her fore staying with Bill when he was caught having a affair. All the crap she was given on her way up.

Palin is exactly what happens you you make someone your VP pick who is relatively unknown and has very little experience. If she had no dirty past, then the media would have been in a frenzy for a week or so then it would have cooled off. However every time you turn around there is more dirt under the rug with this woman. This is the exact reason you don't bring a politically unknown into a major campaign as your running mate.

In short, because McCain didn't properly vest her, the media is doing it for him. That was his choice and had he done his job of fully checking her out rather than jumping into this mess last min, well then things would be a bit different because he likely wouldn't have picked her.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 18, 2008, 11:59:06 PM
LOL... Elfie...don't dig the hole so deep...Hillary was married to Bill, he was the Governor of AR-Kansas -- they were getting enmas then...Blackwater...hear of it?...Press secretary ...suicide...hear of it? there is more ... ummmm... only 80 characters allowed..never mind...
Hillary has been poked and prodded for longer than Palin has been out of high school...stop yourself while you have a chance
I'm not defending her --I'm saying stop typing ... you are dangerously close to falling over on your right side ...put some pillows on the floor...Palin deserves all the scrutinity she gets...she said ok.I'll run as vp... if she has demons to hide...well then she is a dope for doing it...and McCain is a dope for picking her...don't worry...she will be fine, or not..she seems confident about it..you should too.




I sure don't recall the same kind of media blitz on Hillary. It has been a daily thing for Sarah Palin, something new almost every day. Granted, she was a virtual unknown to most Americans before she accepted the VP nomination. That probably has a lot to do with it.

I don't think I need to be confident about it, only she does. :)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 18, 2008, 11:59:28 PM
Sarah Palin has been in the national spotlight for approximately 3 weeks now?

That's exactly why she was a bad pick. You just don't pick total unknowns or you fall into the trap that Palin is going through right now.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 19, 2008, 12:04:00 AM
That's exactly why she was a bad pick. You just don't pick total unknowns or you fall into the trap that Palin is going through right now.

Obviously McCain didn't think she was a bad pick, and lots of American's don't think she is either. YOU think she was a bad pick. :)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 19, 2008, 12:07:02 AM
she WAS a bad pick.

dems really hated her, tho.

made the repubs really like her.

Now, she's a great pick.

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 19, 2008, 12:17:49 AM
I sure don't recall the same kind of media blitz on Hillary. It has been a daily thing for Sarah Palin, something new almost every day. Granted, she was a virtual unknown to most Americans before she accepted the VP nomination. That probably has a lot to do with it.

I don't think I need to be confident about it, only she does. :)

Even Obama has gone though what Palin is now going through. Even you guys on this boards have continuously claimed Obama is a Muslim.. or he has ties to terrorist. When you guys cry about us bring her religion into it.. well you guys did the same thing with Obama. The right wing radio shows and even Fox news has had a field day with Obama over the last 6 to 8 months.

Now here comes Palin as a virtual unknown who gets picked out of the blue to be VP just 3 months before the election. lol WTF do you think the media is going to do? Specially when the bones keep falling out of the closet..
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 19, 2008, 12:25:07 AM
Obviously McCain didn't think she was a bad pick, and lots of American's don't think she is either. YOU think she was a bad pick. :)

The fact that McCain didn't think she was a bad pick is the very scary part. Hell McCain overall didn't bug me that much until he picked this woman. Granted I'm voting for Obama but at of all the Republicans McCain was the guy I hoped would win between the various other Republican candidates. However with this pick of Palin and his recent "changes" that he's made to pretty much say anything to get elected has totally changed my opinion on him.

The McCain from a few years ago might have made a good president and likely wouldn't have bugged me in the slightest if he were to be elected. However the McCain of today is a much different man and has totally ruined any trust I had in him. I'm mean Jesus the guy who claims to be against lobbyists has his entire campaign ran by them.

How can you believe anything he says after that? Have you even looked into that and seen the guys he has running his campaign? It's sicking.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 19, 2008, 12:30:14 AM
she WAS a bad pick.

dems really hated her, tho.

made the repubs really like her.

Now, she's a great pick.



You should check the feelings of many in the Republican party. Many of them even think she was a bad pick. The sad fact is you actually can't even give one good reason why she's a good pick or more qualified than the other choices McCain had. Your entire argument is she is a good pick because the Democrats don't like her.

That right there just shows you have no clue or don't care what might be good or bad for this country. You only care about what pisses off the other side. That is pretty sad, you should think long and hard on that.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 19, 2008, 12:47:34 AM
well, actually no. I figured she was, as a second choice for the republicans; a better pick than your current top of the ticket.

of course, a hamster would be be a better pick... oh wait. He is a hamster.

Plus she's got nice ta-ta's.

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: DiabloTX on September 19, 2008, 01:04:44 AM
You got that right.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SD67 on September 19, 2008, 05:50:53 AM
Can you prove that she used the email for government purposes?
Nothing in any of the content I saw that indicated the accounts were used for official purposes.
I saw quite a lot of personal emails between government officials, but no official content.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 19, 2008, 06:42:46 AM
Nothing in any of the content I saw that indicated the accounts were used for official purposes.


Then why would she use her title? 
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SD67 on September 19, 2008, 06:44:14 AM
Narcissism?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: john9001 on September 19, 2008, 07:16:30 AM
it was whitewater and hillary said she could not remember anything about it and if she did she can't find the papers on the deal. So that was the end of it.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 19, 2008, 07:45:10 AM
Even Obama has gone though what Palin is now going through. Even you guys on this boards have continuously claimed Obama is a Muslim.. or he has ties to terrorist. When you guys cry about us bring her religion into it.. well you guys did the same thing with Obama. The right wing radio shows and even Fox news has had a field day with Obama over the last 6 to 8 months.

Now here comes Palin as a virtual unknown who gets picked out of the blue to be VP just 3 months before the election. lol WTF do you think the media is going to do? Specially when the bones keep falling out of the closet..

Granted, Obama has taken heat (and still does) for the church he attended, at least on these boards. What would YOUR reaction be like if Palin had attended a church with a racist pastor? You'd be all over that like white on rice, screaming and wailing about how horrible that is. (Ok, maybe not the screaming and wailing part. :D)

Most of those bones falling out of the closet have been nothing but rumors. Other things have been partial truths, twisted to make her look bad. Like this email scandal, so far we've seen nothing to indicate that the email accounts were used for official business. Much ado about nothing so far.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 19, 2008, 07:46:27 AM
it was whitewater and hillary said she could not remember anything about it and if she did she can't find the papers on the deal. So that was the end of it.

That's right, it was Whitewater. I was scratching my head over Blackwater thinking that was just the mercenary group.  :lol

You are correct, that nothing really came of it even though it should have.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: lazs2 on September 19, 2008, 07:51:54 AM
hang has it pretty well summed up...  she is way better than the top guy on the other ticket.

People.. real people.. like her.. they like her more when she is attacked by the same people who attack us all every day.  the same people who make our live misserable are attacking her..

lawyers... politicians...  shrill idiot entertainers who sneer at us...hackers with their fun virus crap...  liberal politicians that sneer at us... and here...  mush head little school kids and their teachers.

Hang put his finger on it a while back when he said she was "people"  the ones attacking her are no more "people" to us than the lawyer who sues us.

keep it up.. the more you attack her the more you show the gulf between red and blue.

lazs
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 19, 2008, 07:52:11 AM
Granted, Obama has taken heat (and still does) for the church he attended, at least on these boards. What would YOUR reaction be like if Palin had attended a church with a racist pastor? You'd be all over that like white on rice, screaming and wailing about how horrible that is. (Ok, maybe not the screaming and wailing part. :D)

Most of those bones falling out of the closet have been nothing but rumors. Other things have been partial truths, twisted to make her look bad. Like this email scandal, so far we've seen nothing to indicate that the email accounts were used for official business. Much ado about nothing so far.
Maybe you guys should e-mail her and explain to her exactly what the VP does! :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 19, 2008, 07:55:14 AM
and their teachers.



lazs
:rofl

I will enjoy my job even more now, send more tax money to cover my raise this year. :aok
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: lazs2 on September 19, 2008, 08:00:18 AM
and I will continue (with your unwitting help) to work toward getting more and more people to understand and embrace the fairness and common sense of vouchers..

Thank you for proving everything I have ever said about teachers.

lazs
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 19, 2008, 08:19:17 AM
and I will continue (with your unwitting help) to work toward getting more and more people to understand and embrace the fairness and common sense of vouchers..

Thank you for proving everything I have ever said about teachers.

lazs
I bet you will be paying me for the rest of your life, matter of fact, I know you will.  Thanks, for my raise! :aok

 :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: lazs2 on September 19, 2008, 08:46:45 AM
well..   I don't think I live in your state so I probly won't be paying your salary but...  I am paying for buffoons every bit as arrogant and ignorant as yourself.

It is not a big deal.. the money they waste on you and your ilk is just more money that they can't waste somewhere else.

Really.. you should be thanking the "poor underprivileged" kids you weep for that you are sucking money away from.   Not sure you are bright enough to get that tho.

I sent my grand daughter to catholic school in any case.

lazs
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: WilldCrd on September 19, 2008, 09:20:21 AM
ya know its kinda funny. I looked at the "supposed" screenshots of the emails. couldnt make out any real details. There was a talk show  on yesterday and they were trying to figure out what the emails said as well. one other point. the alphabet soup gang is looking into the hacking of her email accts. Turns out that its a federal crime to do that.....go figure. :huh

Soooo what we have so far: Palin under investigation for "possibly" using personal emails to conduct Govt. business (not proven yet tho), some fuzzy pics of the "possible" offending emails that ya cant read (least I couldnt) and another federal investigation into the hackers who as it turned ALSO broke the law ....a point that few are actually mentioning or are concerned with (NOW THAT IS SCARY)
Please feel free to correct me if I have missed anything on this particular issue.

IMNSHO if this is the WORST thing she has done....big fat hairy deal!
hell I have 1 Co. email and like 5 personal ones, sometimes i have made the damning mistake of using 1 of my personal emails instead of my Co email, and sometimes our email server was down and I had to use my personal email.....poop happens its not like she got a house in a shady land deal partnering with a crook under investigation for fraud or something   :O
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 19, 2008, 09:29:06 AM
What's funny is the Libbies focusing on Palin and ignoring that their minions broke the law beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Imagine just for a second that this turns out like Watergate and the hackers are traced to the Obamessiah. Proud moment, eh?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: bongaroo on September 19, 2008, 09:32:14 AM
my dad is 80..  I would bet the farm that not one of the liberal metrosexuals on this board.. or osamabinbiden could last a whole day plastering a house of pouring and finishing concrete with him.   My guess is that 90% would be blubbering before noon.

lazs

What are you giving me when I win?  :lol

Sounds like a 12 year olds "my dad can beat up your dad" argument.  Lame.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Nwbie on September 19, 2008, 09:45:36 AM
it was whitewater and hillary said she could not remember anything about it and if she did she can't find the papers on the deal. So that was the end of it.

you are correct sir - Whitewater - brain fart


July of 1993 to November of 1998  - yeah that was a quick question and answer.. that was the end of it
Starr -- over 30 million dollars spent on that quick question and answer period...
Granted... there were convictions. and who knows for a fact if Hillary was involved in one way or another illegally.. i think yes... but may have been an ignorance of the actual illegality of any action.. or just plain arrogance.. another high probobility
But the point is that i made and still hold to
Palin could be investigated for 2 years... and she wouldn't experience 1/2 of the probing Hillary has had..
knee jerk reactions run rampant on this bbs...


Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 19, 2008, 10:12:19 AM
Granted, Obama has taken heat (and still does) for the church he attended, at least on these boards. What would YOUR reaction be like if Palin had attended a church with a racist pastor? You'd be all over that like white on rice, screaming and wailing about how horrible that is. (Ok, maybe not the screaming and wailing part. :D)

Most of those bones falling out of the closet have been nothing but rumors. Other things have been partial truths, twisted to make her look bad. Like this email scandal, so far we've seen nothing to indicate that the email accounts were used for official business. Much ado about nothing so far.

I'm already complaining about her church and I've been very vocal on that.. However I could care less what kind of church she goes too. I just want her and others to keep it separate from the politics. Palin could be a snake charmer for all I care (now I'd get a laugh out of that) but if she kept her personal religious views out of politics then I wouldn't give a crap about it.

The problem is she's part of the whole evangelist movement that's trying to take over this country's govt so they can push their agenda from within. The entire Republican party has been hijacked by them.

That's the the main reason I vote democrat,  because I want to protect my rights and also stop this mix of church and state that the Christian Conservatives are trying to push through the Republican party. It's quite sicking IMO.

As for the bones.. I dunno where you get they are "mostly" rumors because every single one that has made it's light to the news has had facts behind it and have been either true or mostly true.

The only big rumor that wasn't true was about the baby being the daughters. However it ended up with the daughter being pregnant, so the rumor was still half true. Everything else has been true and IMO the circumstances about her youngest baby is still under question. Just far too many things wrong with that picture, but no proof so we have to go along with what she says. But that's the only real rumor that can't be proven.

She is involved in the troopergate scandal for trying to fire her exbrother inlaw.
She did belong to a Alaskan separatist group.
She did take earmarks and lied about not taking them. (still lies about it to this day even though it's been proven as fact)
She did try to ban books and tried to fire the librarian who wouldn't do it.
She has fired many others under questionable circumstances.
She did spend $50k remodeling the mayors office with out permission of the city council which broke the law.
She spent her town into millions in debit when it had a surplus prior to her becoming mayor.

The list goes on and on and they are all facts.. no rumors about them.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 19, 2008, 10:19:53 AM


It is not a big deal.. the money they waste on you and your ilk is just more money that they can't waste somewhere else.
Yeah, I mean education is only like, what, 2% of the federal budget.  50 billion or so?  Hell, we spend more in IRAQ nation building per year. :aok
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 19, 2008, 10:20:12 AM
Horseshit.

I refer you again to this site on Palin rumors: http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/

The guy has done a good job researching and supporting his conclusions with links. Unlike you, for example.

Librarian:
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yes, she did ask the librarian if some books could be withdrawn because of being offensive; no, they couldn’t; yes, it was “rhetorical”, at least as was reported contemporaneously in 1996[1] ; yes she did threaten to fire the librarian a month later; no, that wasn’t over the books thing but instead over administrative issues; no, the librarian wasn’t fired either; yes, the librarian was a big supporter of one of her political opponents; yes, the librarian was also the girlfriend of the Chief of Police mentioned above; no, this is not the first time in the history of civilization that someone has been threatened with being fired over a political dispute


Alaskan secession:
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No she wasn’t a member of the (wild-eyed libertarian) Alaska independence Party, although her husband once was


Take 15 minutes, educate yourself and quit spreading manure.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 19, 2008, 10:43:38 AM
Horsepoop.

I refer you again to this site on Palin rumors: http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/

The guy has done a good job researching and supporting his conclusions with links. Unlike you, for example.

Librarian:

Alaskan secession:

Take 15 minutes, educate yourself and quit spreading manure.
are you sure the librarian was never fired?   :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 19, 2008, 10:50:44 AM
Horsepoop.

I refer you again to this site on Palin rumors: http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/

The guy has done a good job researching and supporting his conclusions with links. Unlike you, for example.

Librarian:

Alaskan secession:

Take 15 minutes, educate yourself and quit spreading manure.

The group isn't a official political party that you can register to vote for. You can't register to vote as a AIP member.. lol The fact she was a registered Republican at the same time means nothing. Your registered political party doesn't change if you join some group with a political agenda. Maybe you should think about what you are actually posting rather than just taking some blog's post as fact.

You can only Register to vote as a Republican, Democrat or a Independent. That is unless Alaska has some special clause that I'm unaware of that allows you to register in a 4th party, but I highly doubt it. Even if you can, it doesn't mean she had to change her voter's registeration to be a member of the group.


Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Donzo on September 19, 2008, 10:56:50 AM
are you sure the librarian was never fired?   :rofl

Are you sure she was?  :rofl

Are you sure you're not adopted?  :rofl

Are you sure your kids are actually yours?  :rofl



Just some silly questions to get the debate going  :aok
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 19, 2008, 10:57:05 AM
There are links to source info in the blog. I assumed you wouldn't bother to read it and you'd just keep spreading horseshit.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 19, 2008, 11:03:41 AM
There are links to source info in the blog. I assumed you wouldn't bother to read it and you'd just keep spreading horsepoop.

I did read them.. it went to another blog and the only proof they showed was her voters registration card. That's not proof that she wasn't part of the group, it just shows she wasn't a registered for them as a voter. Like Ron Paul for example he's registered as a Republican but he's a Libertarian or so he claims.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 19, 2008, 11:38:56 AM
How about a newspaper that hates her as much as you do?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/politics/04party.html?ref=politics

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Ms. Palin remained a Republican and never joined the Alaskan Independence Party,
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bronk on September 19, 2008, 12:01:04 PM
How about a newspaper that hates her as much as you do?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/politics/04party.html?ref=politics

Right wing scandal sheet!!!!! Right crochet?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 19, 2008, 12:53:33 PM
How about a newspaper that hates her as much as you do?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/politics/04party.html?ref=politics


That's all I asked for, is a real source of proof. I have no problems admitting I was wrong on a issue if it can be proven to me with a legit source. So she wasn't an official member, but she still attended meetings and even seems to support them in the video she did for them. So she wasn't "officially" a member but it doesn't mean she didn't support them. If she had no affiliation with them, why would she do a video for their conference and why did she attend the meetings?

It's like I said in using Ron Paul as an example.. He calls himself a Libertarian but he's officially in the Republican party. Just because she's a registered Republican doesn't mean she still didn't support them. Hell her husband was a member for what 7 years? That's a little too close to the home to claim she had nothing to do with them..  ;)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 19, 2008, 12:59:38 PM
Are you sure she was?  :rofl

Are you sure you're not adopted?  :rofl

Are you sure your kids are actually yours?  :rofl



Just some silly questions to get the debate going  :aok
no answer? :rofl  Are scared of the answer?  :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: lazs2 on September 20, 2008, 09:59:15 AM
wow.. if the new york times says it then it is gospel to crock-it and skycrock...

This is funny tho..  even having a husband who was in a secessionist group makes her more likeable not less...  Her being the victim of a scumbag hacker.. the kind that give us all the virus crap we deal with.. makes her the good guy not the hacker and those not blaming him.

bongboy.. I said bet the farm.. what part of that did you not understand?  It is not "my dad can beat up your dad"  it is "considering what may dad at 80 can do.. compared to say..  you...  I would not think 72 is that old"

Most likely voters feel the same.. not mush headed pot heads who won't vote anyway... real people.

Keep telling the voters what idiots they are..  It worked out so well for you against Bush... both times.

Keep putting forth a candidate that is a sleazy commie lawyer and sneers at "flyover country"..  It worked out so well against Bush.. both times...

Keep attacking Palin because she is tooooo normal.. tooo much like the rest of us hicks and not like barbera streisand or matt damon...  Not enough of a liberal senator type who knows how to metrosexual out with the best of em.

You guys have the formula down pat.

lazs
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Dago on September 20, 2008, 10:00:31 AM
Crockett is either Rosie O'Donnell, or 14 years old.  I haven't figured out which.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 20, 2008, 12:09:58 PM
That's all I asked for, is a real source of proof.

Not surprising that you trust one of the most biased papers in the country as a "real source".


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So she wasn't an official member, but she still attended meetings and even seems to support them in the video she did for them.

Did you read the whole article?

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Ms. Palin remained a Republican and never joined the Alaskan Independence Party, but returned to its convention in 2006 to speak as candidate for governor. After she had been elected, she recorded a video greeting that was played at the party convention this year. “Good luck on a successful and inspiring convention,” she said. “Keep up the good work, and God bless you.”


I challenge YOU to find evidence from a "real source" that she regularly attended meetings. She spoke to them as governor and she welcomed their convention. It's what governors do; they promote meetings where people are spending money in the state economy.

Further, you don't seem to be aware of the party principles. It is more focused on state's rights and state sovereignity than secession. Hell, Jefferson and many of the founding fathers were focused on the exact same thing when they set up this government. You think that's a bad thing?

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Hell her husband was a member for what 7 years? That's a little too close to the home to claim she had nothing to do with them..  ;)


Yet the Libbies easily dismiss The Obamessiah, with his wife and children, attending Rev. Wright's extremely racist church. Dismiss the close to home claim by Obamessiah himself that "“For 20 years, Rev. Wright has been a ‘friend, mentor and pastor.’ (February 5, 2007)

What's worse you think? The husband of the potential Veep being a 7 year member of a state's rights party in the mold of Jefferson or the actual candidate for President himself claiming a demonstrated extreme racist as his friend, mentor and pastor of 20 years?

You people are a bunch of lemmings.

Check my sig block.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Animl on September 20, 2008, 12:55:52 PM
What's funny is the Libbies focusing on Palin and ignoring that their minions broke the law beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Imagine just for a second that this turns out like Watergate and the hackers are traced to the Obamessiah. Proud moment, eh?

Your thought process is very scewed and weighted, and obvious. Nonsense, all of it.
The last 8 years how many reps were indited? We can on and on if you like but the Rep party is well beyond limits and what's acceptable. If anyone is ignoring facts it's the Rep Neo Trekkies. Victory over truth is what they are ALL about,...McCain been lying his ars off this whole election trying to get crap on Obama dirtier then Reps,.. that's goig to be hard to do since he bases none of it on fact,...pure made up BS.. He' s a liar and so is Paline, both lying their arses off left and right. He'll she's under investigation before she even gets elected. DUH!!!!
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: AKIron on September 20, 2008, 01:01:03 PM
Your thought process is very scewed and weighted, and obvious. Nonsense, all of it.
The last 8 years how many reps were indited? We can on and on if you like but the Rep party is well beyond limits and what's acceptable. If anyone is ignoring facts it's the Rep Neo Trekkies. Victory over truth is what they are ALL about,...McCain been lying his ars off this whole election trying to get crap on Obama dirtier then Reps,.. that's goig to be hard to do since he bases none of it on fact,...pure made up BS.. He' s a liar and so is Paline, both lying their arses off left and right. He'll she's under investigation before she even gets elected. DUH!!!!

Nothing personal but I find it amazing you know how to use a computer.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Donzo on September 20, 2008, 01:03:29 PM
...McCain been lying his ars off this whole election trying to get crap on Obama dirtier then Reps,..

Examples?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: SkyRock on September 20, 2008, 01:10:51 PM
Examples?
link













 :noid
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 20, 2008, 03:01:48 PM
Nothing personal but I find it amazing you know how to use a computer.

Oooh.. AK.. lol, that's gotta make him pop. The socialist weenie fancies himself as quite the computer expert.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 20, 2008, 03:20:37 PM
The group isn't a official political party that you can register to vote for. You can't register to vote as a AIP member.. lol The fact she was a registered Republican at the same time means nothing. Your registered political party doesn't change if you join some group with a political agenda. Maybe you should think about what you are actually posting rather than just taking some blog's post as fact.

You can only Register to vote as a Republican, Democrat or a Independent. That is unless Alaska has some special clause that I'm unaware of that allows you to register in a 4th party, but I highly doubt it. Even if you can, it doesn't mean she had to change her voter's registeration to be a member of the group.




When I registered to vote here in Colorado I had the options of, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian and Constitutionalist parties. I see no reason why Alaska's 3rd largest political party isn't an official party.

*edit* I also had the option of Unaffiliated, which I took.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 20, 2008, 03:32:10 PM
Examples?


Just a few...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/05/speeches.facts/
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 20, 2008, 03:37:25 PM
Oooh.. AK.. lol, that's gotta make him pop. The socialist weenie fancies himself as quite the computer expert.

Can you actually hold a adult coversation and actually make a point about anything?

Serious question, because I've yet to read anything you post, that I wasn't wishing for my 2 seonds back.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 20, 2008, 03:48:17 PM
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She is involved in the troopergate scandal for trying to fire her exbrother inlaw.
She did belong to a Alaskan separatist group.
She did take earmarks and lied about not taking them. (still lies about it to this day even though it's been proven as fact)
She did try to ban books and tried to fire the librarian who wouldn't do it.
She has fired many others under questionable circumstances.
She did spend $50k remodeling the mayors office with out permission of the city council which broke the law.
She spent her town into millions in debit when it had a surplus prior to her becoming mayor.

Troopergate is still being investigated, however, the man who was fired has said no one directly asked him to fire the Trooper.

Toad covered the Librarian and the AIP party.

What earmarks has she lied about?

As an executive (Mayor or Governor) in Alaska, they have the authority to fire many employees with or without cause.

50k remodeling an office? That's a new one to me.

Wasilla was, and is a rapidly growing community. It would be prudent to build for the future, even if that means going into debt as long as there is a plan to pay off that debt.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 20, 2008, 03:54:51 PM
Can you actually hold a adult coversation and actually make a point about anything?

Serious question, because I've yet to read anything you post, that I wasn't wishing for my 2 seonds back.

Serious answer: In threads you post in, I'm maintaining a level of lucidity you can relate too.

And it's spelled 'handle' not 'handel', 'conversation' not 'coversation' and 'seconds' not seonds.

Your quality liberal arts education is showing again.

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 20, 2008, 03:59:00 PM
^^  :rofl
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 20, 2008, 04:28:40 PM
Your thought process is very scewed and weighted, and obvious.

 :rofl That's pretty rich coming from you.

I won't be voting McC nor will I vote for the Obamessiah. Check the sig block.

What's really obvious is that the Libbies are too terrified to even discuss the Obamessiah's imperfections.

Crockett is unable to document his unfounded statement that Ms. Palin was an active member of the AIP. He is also unaware of the AIP focus on state's rights and state sovereignity, a position that has its roots in the very foundation of our national government.  All of that renders his argument irrelevant and meaningless.

None of you Obamaniacs dare have an open discussion about him. His hands are dirty, dirty as anyone else coming out of Chicago politics. He's got no record of doing things; his entire resume in the Illinois Senate was created by his acknowledged mentor, Jones. He's done jack in the US Senate.

He has a 20 year history with a racist pastor whom he acknowledges as his friend and mentor. He's also friends with Ayers, a former terrorist bomber that attacked his own country.

The files of the Annenberg foundation are just now being examined. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) was a $160 million school reform effort led by, among others, Barack Obama and Bill Ayers, from 1995 until the end of 2001. The reforms are judged to be a failure but it highlights the Ayers/Obama relationship. They are more than just acquaintances as The Obamessiah wants all to believe.

Interestingly enough, Annenberg also has ties to Obamessiah's buddy Rezko who sold him some land in a really good deal. Obama paid $300,000 less than the asking price for a doctor's home, while Rezko's wife paid the doctor full price for the vacant lot next door. Then -- a few months before Rezko was indicted -- Obama bought part of that lot from Rezko's wife.

And what a surprise!  Rezmar [Rezko’s company] and the Fund for Community Redevelopment and Revitalization, a Davis company, [the law firm where Obama worked] closed on a two building deal in 1998. The Fund for Community Redevelopment and Revitalization received funding from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

He is so entertwined with dirty politics in Chicago that he can't be extricated.

But hey... all that stuff isn't worth talking about. The REAL thing we need to investigate is if Palin is actually the grandmother of the down's syndrome kid in the family. More BS to obscure the vision of the lemmings.

Lemmings, all of yas. Go ahead, be maroons. Vote for Obama or McCain and get a longer, fatter Federal Nanny State shoved up your axes. You're not smart enough to break this daisy chain of the two major parties taking turns screwing your poop chute while you obligingly bend over the barrel for them.

I'll go ahead and vote Libertarian. I'm done voting against the lesser of two weasels. I'm voting FOR someone this time. This will be two straight Libertarian votes in a row.

Hey... I hear your master calling... drop trou and bend over because here it comes again!
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 20, 2008, 04:33:06 PM
Nice post Toad. Enjoyed it immensely.

<S!>
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Bronk on September 20, 2008, 04:40:48 PM
Snip
Well said. but pls edit  the one word so whiners can't report and have it rule 7ed.  :aok
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: john9001 on September 20, 2008, 04:48:01 PM
who is the Libertarian candidate?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 20, 2008, 04:51:49 PM
Bob Barr

http://www.lp.org/ (http://www.lp.org/)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 20, 2008, 04:52:20 PM
Bob Barr.. but it could be just about anyone and be a better pick than the two choices of the major parties.

Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: john9001 on September 20, 2008, 05:02:32 PM
so how is ross perot, i mean bob barr doing?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 20, 2008, 05:07:09 PM


so how is ross perot, i mean bob barr doing?

Dunno. The media ignores him, he's sidelined on the debates.. there's no public acknowledgment of his existence.

Hence.. he does not appear to be 'electable' unless the media presents him as a viable candidate.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 20, 2008, 05:11:11 PM
It's not about voting for a winner. It's about voting FOR someone that can help this country rather than against someone that will damage it.

So when exactly do we finally tell the Dems and Reps that we're mad as hell and not going to take this toejam anymore?

I mean we've been picking between the lesser of two weasels since Reagan left office. For 20 diddlying years fer chrissakes; Bush1 v Dukakis..... YGBSM! And it got WORSE and stayed bad after those two dweezils!

Dear God... Clinton v Bush1, Clinton v Dole, Bush2 v Gore, Bush2 v Kerry.  Now which one of those was too important not to vote 3rd party? Every single one, of course. That's what the Dems and Reps spoon feed us every time.

So when will there be an election where it's not important so we can vote 3rd party?

If not us, who? If not now, when?

oooOOOOOO- RAH!
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 20, 2008, 05:13:46 PM
Hence.. he does not appear to be 'electable' unless the media presents him as a viable candidate.

So you gonna lie down in front of the great god Media?

Screw 'em.

Imagine the consternation if the Libertarians got 25% of the national vote. Think that might wake a few people up?

But no... let us remain complacent as first the Donkey and then the Elephant and then the Donkey and then the Elephant cornhole us in an everlasting daisy chain of love.

Lemmings.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: john9001 on September 20, 2008, 05:25:06 PM
 i favor third party candidates, i think half the  liberals should vote for ralph nader.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 20, 2008, 06:05:06 PM
Toad, I'm watching like a hawk.. if it gets close here in NY, I'll vote McCain. Since it never is.. NY is a solid blue; I'll be either writing in Paul or voting for Barr. The resta the ticket I'm voting anti-incumbent.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: bongaroo on September 20, 2008, 07:50:04 PM
Most likely voters feel the same.. not mush headed pot heads who won't vote anyway... real people.

I feel real.  Quick, someone pinch me!

I've been called a lot of things, but never has my existence been questioned.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Hangtime on September 20, 2008, 07:55:01 PM
We're all bozo's on this bus, bongie. ;)
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Toad on September 20, 2008, 08:06:18 PM
Toad, I'm watching like a hawk.. if it gets close here in NY, I'll vote McCain. Since it never is.. NY is a solid blue; I'll be either writing in Paul or voting for Barr. The resta the ticket I'm voting anti-incumbent.

Yeah, RCP shows New Yawk as +13 for the New Messiah.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: Elfie on September 20, 2008, 11:41:26 PM
Right now Colorado is leaning towards Obama so I'm going to vote for McCain unless something changes and Colorado goes red. If that happens, I'll vote for Bob Barr. The rest of the ticket I'm voting out incumbents.
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: crockett on September 21, 2008, 10:00:36 AM
Toad, I'm watching like a hawk.. if it gets close here in NY, I'll vote McCain. Since it never is.. NY is a solid blue; I'll be either writing in Paul or voting for Barr. The resta the ticket I'm voting anti-incumbent.


"resta" is that English?
Title: Re: The woman who might handel the nuke codes..
Post by: john9001 on September 21, 2008, 11:48:28 AM

"resta" is that English?


it's hispanic, what, you don't speak hispanic? What kind of a american are you?