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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ISpyWithMyLittleEye on January 05, 2009, 08:39:01 PM
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Okay, something needs to be done about the P-38J in the Mid-War Arena. Unperked, the plane is a extremely unbalancing, just look at last tour. It was the #1 killer in the Mid-War Arena by a good margin. No other plane is so dominating, especially in the right hands (more on this later) in Mid-War. It's come to the point that if I log into the arena and see a couple of certain individuals logged on, I'll just log back off. No reason I should waste my time trying to up and fight these particular guys because it's impossible, sure they get shot down from time to time but it's always by having to gang them, 1v1 or even 2v1, they are a match for pretty much anything that flies at them. Get them out of the uber over modeled P-38 they fly and they're just fodder and can't fly, which brings me to my next conclusion.
The P-38J in the Mid-War arena last tour had 4060 kills, the most kills of any fighter. While looking at those stats, I found something pretty interesting and eye opening. It seems that the majority of the kills in the P-38J belong to a handful of players and all of them are members of "SAPP", the *cough* self-proclaimed experts in the P-38. Two of the SAPP players account for a combined 25% of the total kills (one has 12%, the other 13%) and yet both of them only account for 4% of the deaths. The other SAPP players have similiar stats but if you look at the non-SAPP players, you'll see the opposite in their stats (i.e. their deaths outnumber their kills). I find it strange that the only ones that are successful and can do those 'impossible' things you see a P-38 do are only flown by those SAPP guys, strange stuff like being able to pick someone off with a single 20mm round in a vertical zoom climb from D1.2 away, out turn planes like Spitfires, Zekes and Hurricanes and any other stuff us non-SAPP flyers can only wish we can do in the P-38J. Why is it these players can do almost God-like stuff in the P-38 while the rest of us can't, even though we have tons more skill and ability than any of those SAPP guys have?
After doing some more research, I think I found the answer. It is clear that these players are getting a boost somehow and from the time some of these players have been playing (one of them professes to have been playing and flying the P-38 for almost 15 years, since AW! Yeah, I call B.S.!) they must have someone above looking after them. It turns out that there is someone named Pyro who is a long time P-38 fan (from the rumors I've heard, he too use to play AW and was a hard core P-38 driver) and has some ties to HTC. Then someone sends me a gunsight that all the SAPP players use that was supposedly made for them by someone close to HTC (see below for image of the gunsight) and it is supposedly this gunsight that is the key to their success and uncanny aim.
(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/B4B/n00bsight.jpg)
So, while I ask that the P-38J be perked in the Mid-War arena, I also ask that something be done about those SAPP players that are obviously getting preferential treatment, like this gunsight shows.
ISpyWithMyLittleEye
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:cry
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Hi AKAK
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Perk the hurri2c first.
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Smells Like Trolls in here, smell that? :rofl
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B4Buster tsk tsk
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Hi AKAK
Hi Messiah.
Oh, and I agree, perk the P-38J. As for the gunsight, the OP forgot to mention that all SAPPers also have glass cockpits that give us an unrestricted and unobstructed 360 degree views.
I'd like to know who those SAPP guys that make up 25% of the kills, because they promised me they'd let me vulch their 2nd accounts too, the lying bastiges!
Pyro still knows what a P-38 looks like, let alone how to start one up?
ack-ack
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I smell a skuzzination on the way...
:D
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Smells Like Trolls in here, smell that? :rofl
I smell a skuzzination on the way...
:D
Did he just say skuzzy smells like a troll?
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Maby instead of crying on the BBS, you should ask if u could wing with one of the said P38 drivers. If the first thing you think when you get shot down is,"that guy must be cheating", you might as well cancel your subscription now.
HTC has ways of detecting changes to there code, and even if they were using aim bot (highly unlikely) the simple solution is not to get in front of there guns. :aok
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that has to be the sadest thing i have seen typed into this forum since i have been playing!!!! and believe me i have typed some pretty sad stuff in here :huh
a p-38 is the best killer in mid, sounds to me like someone does not understand S.A.
granted a 38 is high over your projected target, you should use caution, but to say the p-38 is an uber killer is almost as insane as saying the a-20 should have single handily won the war :noid :noid :noid
( something i related to quite some time back)
think about what you posted, they travel in pairs, they will kill you if you don't do the same!!
go against a piar of hurri's that work together as well as the sapp guy's and see what happens :aok
o well it was just for fun that i posted here tonight ,, trying to eat some bbq!!
good luck with all that uber lightning stuff
o and hey batt <<S>>
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Get it INto your head, budd. The SAPP guys are not freakin' gods. Go fly a Lightning and see how difficult it is. I still can't kill a Spitfire VIII on a regular basis and I fly the Lightning on a regular basis...
As for that gunsight, i use that in ALL my planes.
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I think your just getting
PWNED
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Add the F4U-1A to the Mid-war arena. Then you got yourself a (mild) perk ride.
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gee that looks like the conversation a couple guys had yesterday on 200.these guys in midwar that flys the 38s been flying the plane for over 10 years .me personally i like fighting them. film and learn.i've been flying it for about a month now and still not getting any easier .but i have found it's 1 hellava bomber killer
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
This thread should be stickied and re-named "Perspective of a 'gamer.'"
What makes you think a guy wouldn't want to spend 15 years with the great fun and people of AH?
What makes you think the guy has to be cheating just because he beat you? Ever think that if you tried learning how he does it you could do it too?
Players that are getting preferential treatment like the gunsight shows? And how is that? Did you know you can use that gunsight for yourself right from that picture? Go to C:/Program files/HTC/Aces High II/sights and just put it in there. Then you can select that sight from the preferences menu in game.
There's just one last point I'd like to make:
INB4DALOCK
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Get it INto your head, budd. The SAPP guys are not freakin' gods.
Oh, now that is just not true.
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To the OP... sounds like you're getting OWNED by some real vets.
While I'm here, I would like to thank HTC and staff for enabling the bombsight in the MA for us fellow SAPPers
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/banshee7_2007/ahss2.jpg)
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Can't tell if this a joke or not.
If its a joke then well its not funny.
Ifs it not then your just trying to fight the 38 on its terms.
get co-alt with it and take away the alt advantage.
Those 38 drivers you are talking about must laugh thier heads off watching guys try to climb to them just to stall and flop over.
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that has to be the sadest thing i have seen typed into this forum since i have been playing!!!! and believe me i have typed some pretty sad stuff in here :huh
a p-38 is the best killer in mid, sounds to me like someone does not understand S.A.
granted a 38 is high over your projected target, you should use caution, but to say the p-38 is an uber killer is almost as insane as saying the a-20 should have single handily won the war :noid :noid :noid
( something i related to quite some time back)
think about what you posted, they travel in pairs, they will kill you if you don't do the same!!
go against a piar of hurri's that work together as well as the sapp guy's and see what happens :aok
o well it was just for fun that i posted here tonight ,, trying to eat some bbq!!
good luck with all that uber lightning stuff
o and hey batt <<S>>
hook, line, and sinker
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LOL type in (a) (dollar sign) (dollar sign)
The language bot changes it LOL
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To the OP... sounds like you're getting OWNED by some real vets.
While I'm here, I would like to thank HTC and staff for enabling the bombsight in the MA for us fellow SAPPers
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/banshee7_2007/ahss2.jpg)
Its just a holdover until we get the droopsnoot in the next update. Don't get used to it.
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This is funny :rofl. The p-38J is far from uber, there's just a lot of good 38 sticks in midwar. That's the simple fact. I know most of them and most know me, I've won some I lost some against them. Do I fear them, no, do I respect them, yes. Perking the 38j seems silly, it's got it's weak spots like any plane in midwar. It fights great in the verticle, but it turns mediocre, climbs well, good accleraton and top speed, but also a big target. I'll stick to my F4u-1's and my 109 G2's in midwar, yea they have their flaws too but I try to avoid others taking advantage of them.
:salute
BigRat
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Hey ISpy, we hacked your webcam. Get a life d00d.
(http://img.skitch.com/20080625-pkqd22y7wtrefbu2nycwcputuy.preview.jpg)
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The P-38 fails to lead the pack in any single performance category, even in mid-war. It is a Swiss army knife and there are simply many skilled pilots who can seamlessly switch between the corkscrew and the nail-file when needed...
I did a few quick chart comparisons. It turns out the only plane that potentially needs perking in MW is the La-5FN, being as about as fast or faster than the nearest unperked British, American, and German birds in speed (Mosquito, P-51B, 109G2) at the typical low-levels and having a smaller turn radius than all of these rivals to boot. More lethality than everything except the Mossie as well. The La-5fn badly out-does the P-38J in every category until nose-bleed alts.
So if one is looking for an MW uber-plane to pick on, it is not the 38J. Heck, you should perk the 109G2 before you perk the P-38J.
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No one ever complains about the 38G. I must be doing something wrong :(
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I'm sure if we switched to the G, we'd have the girls in the MW arena crying to perk it within a week.
ack-ack
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The La-5fn badly out-does the P-38J in every category until nose-bleed alts.
Only real thing it has is speed as its main advantage over the P-38, it won't beat it in the vertical and when speeds get low, the P-38 will out turn it.
ack-ack
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gee that looks like the conversation a couple guys had yesterday on 200.these guys in midwar that flys the 38s been flying the plane for over 10 years .me personally i like fighting them. film and learn.i've been flying it for about a month now and still not getting any easier .but i have found it's 1 hellava bomber killer
Yeah, Shuffler and I were having a discussion along this sort of line with some guy on the Knights side that didn't seem to like P-38s and took exception with us flying exclusively. IIRC, he even made the comment about us SAPP members being able to make consistant one shot kills in a vertical zoom climb from d1.2 out. Guess after he found the gun sight, he's probably using it too. Hope he figures out to raise the gunsight so his view isn't obstructed by "Shoot Here". LOL
ack-ack
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Just in the p38's defence:
It is somewhat difficult to fly (only in AH 3 months now so most stuff is difficult)
I have flown 1 v 1 against akak and it was a good fight against my spit V lasted quite some time till I made a fatal error and akak nailed me. Its his experience not the p38. Just Imagine a squad of la5 pilots with that experience :O
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Someone tell me Ispy is joking. :huh
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I'm not sure we should be posting in this thread without checking with Headquarters in Grapevine.
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Clearly Ackack, Shuffler, TwinBoom,Larry and VonHoltz need to be perked not the 38 :D
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Wow! Any of you feel a tug at the corner of your mouth?
That was a beautiful, masterful cast. Well done.
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There is only one way to settle this. Take it to the DA!!!
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:O
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Says he's made 3 sorties here and has gotton 30 kills but only 1 of his posts shows up ....hummm
I call vulchin hacker!
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Says he's made 3 sorties here and has gotton 30 kills but only 1 of his posts shows up ....hummm
I call vulchin hacker!
Where did I mention I have three sorties or any kills?
It's sad that you guys don't realize how much the P-38J makes the game play unbalanced in the Mid-War arena but then I'm pretty sure most of you players fly in the Late-War arena with all your fast late war planes and couldn't hack it in the Mid-War arena. If you did then you would see first hand how much the P-38J makes the game unfair for everyone else. Even though this tour is fresh the P-38J is still the top killer and with these SAPP players flying them it's really no fair for us honest players that can't compete because we don't have a special plane given to us like they do. If we all flew the same P-38J then I wouldn't be demanding it be perked but as you can see from a comment from one of them about glass cockpits, it's obvious they have some favoritism going their way.
ISpyWithMyLittleEye
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Where did I mention I have three sorties or any kills?
It's sad that you guys don't realize how much the P-38J makes the game play unbalanced in the Mid-War arena but then I'm pretty sure most of you players fly in the Late-War arena with all your fast late war planes and couldn't hack it in the Mid-War arena. If you did then you would see first hand how much the P-38J makes the game unfair for everyone else. Even though this tour is fresh the P-38J is still the top killer and with these SAPP players flying them it's really no fair for us honest players that can't compete because we don't have a special plane given to us like they do. If we all flew the same P-38J then I wouldn't be demanding it be perked but as you can see from a comment from one of them about glass cockpits, it's obvious they have some favoritism going their way.
ISpyWithMyLittleEye
Why not take advantage of this 'uber' plane that is free to fly? Oh and how many perks should it cost to fly smart guy, a million bajillion?
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If we all flew the same P-38J then I wouldn't be demanding it be perked but as you can see from a comment from one of them about glass cockpits, it's obvious they have some favoritism going their way.
That's just silly. Why would you believe something like that? It's not like some of those guys are running around the boards with special HTC bestowed tags under their names :noid
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Why not take advantage of this 'uber' plane that is free to fly? Oh and how many perks should it cost to fly smart guy, a million bajillion?
I think the perks should be based on the individual instead of the plane. It would be extremely easy to code something into the perk system that would base the perks not on the airplane but on the player itself. This system would check the player's stats and if the system sees that the player has gained a lot of kills in a certain plane then the system would place a perk price on that plane. This way guys like those SAPP players that make up a large significant of kills in one plane would be forced to fly another plane that they aren't skilled in and then we'll see who has the last laugh.
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That's just silly. Why would you believe something like that? It's not like some of those guys are running around the boards with special HTC bestowed tags under their names :noid
I just find it strange that it's only those in SAPP that are able to make shots in a vertical zoom climb from d1.2 out and kill with just a single 20mm round. Or why is it only that SAPP players are able to out turn planes that are well known to be better maneuvering planes like the Hurricane IIc, A6M5, Seafire, Spitfire 9, Spitfire 8 and the P-51B (which hands down in real life was far better than the P-38 ever was, which was recently shown on that Great Planes on the Military Channel). Not to mention that any of the Luftwaffe aircraft were far superior with the exception of the Stuka and maybe the Bf 110C-4. The others blow the P-38 out of the water but that's not the case here for certain players, which proves that SAPP players get specially 'tuned' P-38Js and the Luftwaffe fighters are extremely under modeled. I just watched last week on my Wings of the Luftwaffe DVD how easily a Bf109 could out maneuver in both the vertical and horizontal against a P-38 and basically thought they were nothing more than flying targets. But that's not how it is in here. Need any more facts or proof?
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P38J in mid-war give me the creeps !
Ak-Ak, Shufller, Twin-Boom, VonHoltz and few others in P38J make me sweat before the fight begins :furious :cry :mad:
I fly Spitfires all the time and when I get shot down, I go back up trying to have the edge(alt/speed) before the fight begins. Right there and then I see a different approach from the same pilot. They have the power and speed to extend and sometimes they fly away never to return :mad: But that's the game !
Sometimes I win but get shot down more often :(
That's for me to learn and get better !
Salute P38J drivers.
Win or lose, I'll try to give ya a good fight !
Maybe learning the P38J better and fight/learn their style you might be able to win the dogfights instead of perking the plane :aok
Phil / OPP7755
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Oh I see, 2 posts don't show because he registered in may before new boards.
Reg: May 2008
Posts: 6 shows 4
Maybe he is serious :huh
38 is really hard to fly, there is a trick to it, just don't know what it is.
Same goes for the 190's that somehow can turn so well. I guess more practice will reveal it's secrets.
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I guess more practice will reveal it's secrets.
Or access to S.A.P.P. library and utilities :noid
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It's those damn blenders I tells ya.
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This thread would have been soooo much better if it had been started April 1st.
wrongway
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:rofl I go to the MW only when I know these "SAPP" guys are in there because I know it'll be alot of fun. They can be beat by just about any plane in there. You just have to not play their game. Don't take off from the same field you got shot down at. Don't go into the vertical with them, get some alt. And most important, fly with a wingman to help cover your mistakes.
These "uber" fellers are a complete blast to fight and when you get the the on one you'll know you earned it. I'm just glad they don't fly spitfires :lol
Let me know when you're in MW, and I'll wing with you and we'll see if we can't send these boys to the tower a few times. :t I'm not saying we'll beat em', but we'll sure as hell shake em' up a bit :lol :salute
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Ohhh they aint so hard to shoot down. Just stay away from that 600' sword in the front, if you can. :D
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I'm sure if we switched to the G, we'd have the girls in the MW arena crying to perk it within a week.
ack-ack
I actually out-turned a spit9 in a 38G the other night. :D
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ISPY,
This whole notion is nonsense. Do you have tangible proof that SAPP has any of these "special mods"? Sure, we have a vast library of training films, guides, and resources. And SAPP's Consortium of 12 meets regularly with certain people involved with the game to give their input. But as far as I know the Blenders are the only upgrade we have.
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ISPY,
....... And SAPP's Consordium of 12 meets regularly with certain people involved with the game to give their input.
:noid
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Anyone who believes SAPP have anything other than good skills, seriously needs their head testing - they are simply that good!!
(nice stinky bait - what is that tug on the side of my mouth I feel? lol)
Wurzel
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I actually out-turned a spit9 in a 38G the other night. :D
Truly a case for pilots involved and not the planes.
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the OP forgot to mention that all Sapp also have glass cockpits that give us an unrestricted and unobstructed 360 degree views like we had in AW.
ack-ack
Fixed
My favorite one to shoot is Del he crys the most.
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Truly a case for pilots involved and not the planes.
that's my point. you've seen me fly. :noid
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Guess I will have to start flying my f4u-1 in MW so he can try to have that perked. :devil
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Holy crap guys, you ALL need to lighten the hell up!
The only guy who "got it" appears to be Anaxagoras.
This is a joke. And, yes, it is funny.
The little gunsight thingy with the "shoot here" didn't give it away I guess.
Step away from the keyboard. Take a breath. Recognize this thread for the whine parody it is. :rock
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After having come back to the game after a few tours in hiatus I have to wonder what htc have done to the FM on the P38s......I used to hate the way the nose bounced all over the place and the plane always seemed weaker in the vertical compared to other planes, like the later 109s.
Now the 109 seems weaker in the vetical compared to the 38, and the 38 seems superior in the vertical to all other FMs...at least in mid war, where I play.
Dont get me wrong...Im loving the 38 for the first time in ten years. I just wonder if its my memory playing tricks on me or if the FMs have been altered.
And yes, the A-20 needs another 2000 pounds dead weight added to it. Still too zeke like. I think htc did a cut paste from the zeke FM template when creating the A-20 FM and simply forgot to change the weights.
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Up a P47D11. Force the P38 to fight your fight. Keep your advantage.
Don't be duped into fighting your opponents fight...fight yours. the D11 turns well
but in the vertical it is lousy to say the least. Give yourself enough room so that the vertical
is of no consequence. You can break combat at your leisure.
Don't whine....get smart instead.
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OP, would you like some cheese with your whine? You Will not deter our aspirations of world domination.
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No one ever complains about the 38G. I must be doing something wrong :(
You need to get your g model out of the hole you made in the ground first. I just figured out why the g model is only modeled in green....it spends so much time in the shrubbery the mistook it for a gv. :devil :rofl
:salute corky i always enjoy our fights win or lose ya gamey 38 pile-it :t
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:rofl funny stuff Ispy
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Like lazy says the guys that are getting all the 38 kills in MW have been flying it for years. In the hand s of an inexperianced 38 pilot it's an easy kill. If you don't like being bounced by the 38 guys then fly a pony and run, except try and get kills flying a pony isnt as easy as everyone thinks.. I rather like fighting the likes of akak and shuffler. I doubt that I will ever be able to be on the end of killing them more than they kill me but it's a ton of fun. I have now able to dupe Von Holtz most of the time but it took a ton of engagments agaiinst him to do so. I have come to know his fighting style and counter it most of the time 1vs1.
Being able to hold your E against a 38 is paramount . If I can't stay behind a 38 then I'm dead. If they are able to out climb me I'm dead. Non of these really good 38 guys miss their shot either so screw up once and your back in the tower. Perking the plane is not nessisary imo.
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(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/128757405226090270.png)
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so starts the 2009 WHINE OF THE YEAR
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Like lazy says the guys that are getting all the 38 kills in MW have been flying it for years. In the hand s of an inexperianced 38 pilot it's an easy kill. If you don't like being bounced by the 38 guys then fly a pony and run, except try and get kills flying a pony isnt as easy as everyone thinks.. I rather like fighting the likes of akak and shuffler. I doubt that I will ever be able to be on the end of killing them more than they kill me but it's a ton of fun. I have now able to dupe Von Holtz most of the time but it took a ton of engagments agaiinst him to do so. I have come to know his fighting style and counter it most of the time 1vs1.
Being able to hold your E against a 38 is paramount . If I can't stay behind a 38 then I'm dead. If they are able to out climb me I'm dead. Non of these really good 38 guys miss their shot either so screw up once and your back in the tower. Perking the plane is not nessisary imo.
my two biggest problems in the 38........gunnery, and knowing when to cut n run.....or extend for the reset.
i'm gettin better though.
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cut n run
Never!!!!!! :aok
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Never!!!!!! :aok
YEA i know........but that's why i die a lot. i keep fightin when i shouldn't........ :devil
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Me too. They keep giving me a new plane every time though, those suckers!
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I just find it strange that it's only those in SAPP that are able to make shots in a vertical zoom climb from d1.2 out and kill with just a single 20mm round. Or why is it only that SAPP players are able to out turn planes that are well known to be better maneuvering planes like the Hurricane IIc, A6M5, Seafire, Spitfire 9, Spitfire 8 and the P-51B (which hands down in real life was far better than the P-38 ever was, which was recently shown on that Great Planes on the Military Channel). Not to mention that any of the Luftwaffe aircraft were far superior with the exception of the Stuka and maybe the Bf 110C-4. The others blow the P-38 out of the water but that's not the case here for certain players, which proves that SAPP players get specially 'tuned' P-38Js and the Luftwaffe fighters are extremely under modeled. I just watched last week on my Wings of the Luftwaffe DVD how easily a Bf109 could out maneuver in both the vertical and horizontal against a P-38 and basically thought they were nothing more than flying targets. But that's not how it is in here. Need any more facts or proof?
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHA!!!!!!!
Omg, Im sorry but this just soooo funny here. Ive got my fair share of kills on a P38. And Although I fly in a the LW, I fly the A6M, therefore makes the match up equal of the MW, ya? The plane is not uber. The pilots are.
Just give me a second to run through your complaint here. Your saying that guys that have flown for nearly 10 years almost exclusivly in the one plane, should LOSE to your fight? :huh CONFUSED.COM! Then you say that paople you take the time to become proficiant in a plane should be penalised for it, and be perked? What happens when the become proficient in almost all of the planes? Heck, Ive got a squaddie (Snaphook aka Humble-Look him up, he'll teach ya a few things) who is deadly in a SBD! SO PERK IT? You then go on to say that HTC has a spy and a cheater in their midst, Pyro, who helps the SAPP, those guys I mentioned who have flown for nearly 10 Years, tweak their planes and gives them an amazing FM with apparantly 0G? Dude, you got problems
How about instead of whining on the boards and yelling cheater when you get owned by one of these 'GODS', you simply PM them a <SALUTE> And ask for advice. Clearly these gods should be willing to give out help, something about the 'AH TRAINER CORPS' tells me they might. Got no idea what gives me that idea. If I get owned by an uber player (I generally know who they are) I ask them how they did that. I generally get the reply 'meet me in the TA in 5 mins and I'll show you'. I met Snailman a few weeks ago whilst on a big buff run. He got one of my drones from about 800 out. I just groaned when I saw that name and almost bailed. I never got the chance ot ask him for advice, but I may well look him up sometime. His Buff hunting skills were amazing, I never once got my guns on him on the 6-8 passes on the 3 sets of buffs around me. ASKING people generally gets a good reply. Try it sometime :aok
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I think what he's asking is to perk the pilots
because there unbalancing the arena
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Holy crap guys, you ALL need to lighten the hell up!
The only guy who "got it" appears to be Anaxagoras.
This is a joke. And, yes, it is funny.
The little gunsight thingy with the "shoot here" didn't give it away I guess.
Step away from the keyboard. Take a breath. Recognize this thread for the whine parody it is. :rock
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Hey toonces,
I'm a careful reader, that's all. :aok
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ISPY,
This whole notion is nonsense. Do you have tangible proof that SAPP has any of these "special mods"? Sure, we have a vast library of training films, guides, and resources. And SAPP's Consortium of 12 meets regularly with certain people involved with the game to give their input. But as far as I know the Blenders are the only upgrade we have.
Do I have to repost the gunsight that was created specially for them to use? Why is it they are the only ones that are able to use a gunsight that tells them exactly where to lead and shoot? Is that not concrete proof enough? Or the deal with torpedos. Last night in the Mid-War arena I overheard two SAPP players on the radio talking about bombing a town with torpedos, why can they do that and us normal players cannot? Again, need anymore proof there is a bias going on here?
Sure, you can deny it all you want but I think I've layed out a pretty good argument full of proof and facts, which you have not produced yourself to counter any of mine. This just goes to show that you guys have something to hide.
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Kennyhayes used to be my favorite poster.
But now, now I have a new favorite.
Well played, Ispy, well played.
Bravo sir. :rofl
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Votes this thread as MOAT Winnah 2009...or at least till Skuzzy beats it down with a whup stick :aok
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Last night in the Mid-War arena I overheard two SAPP players on the radio talking about bombing a town with torpedos, why can they do that and us normal players cannot? Again, need anymore proof there is a bias going on here?
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Omg, don't make it stop. This is greatness.
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We've also got a cheatcode to activate the Puff on the C-47.
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Im going with Shuffler posting with a shade.... :D Sound like his humor to me....
Funniest dang post ive seen in a long time....
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Only real thing it has is speed as its main advantage over the P-38, it won't beat it in the vertical and when speeds get low, the P-38 will out turn it.
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The La5 also out-accelerates and out-climbs the P-38J badly below 7K or so. Dokgonzo's site lists the La5's no-flaps turn radius as being nearly as small as the P-38's *full* flaps radius.
As to zoom climb...
http://www.mediafire.com/?x15zgxx8sym (http://www.mediafire.com/?x15zgxx8sym)
Test is done as standard, dive to ~sea level, decelerate to 400mph, pull up vertical and use shift+X to hold the attitude until the plane falls off. The P-38's weight and torque-less operation does benefit it here, it regains ~6.1K as compared to the ~La5's 6K. It should be noted however that I leveled off from the dive slightly higher in the 38. So while a P-38 should rope be able to rope an La5 with any sort of energy advantage at all, its vertical potential is unlikely to save it from a co-e state, especially considering the advantage in energy building the La5 possesses.
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The La5 also out-accelerates and out-climbs the P-38J badly below 7K or so. Dokgonzo's site lists the La5's no-flaps turn radius as being nearly as small as the P-38's *full* flaps radius.
As to zoom climb...
http://www.mediafire.com/?x15zgxx8sym (http://www.mediafire.com/?x15zgxx8sym)
Test is done as standard, dive to ~sea level, decelerate to 400mph, pull up vertical and use shift+X to hold the attitude until the plane falls off. The P-38's weight and torque-less operation does benefit it here, it regains ~6.1K as compared to the ~La5's 6K. It should be noted however that I leveled off from the dive slightly higher in the 38. So while a P-38 should rope be able to rope an La5 with any sort of energy advantage at all, its vertical potential is unlikely to save it from a co-e state, especially considering the advantage in energy building the La5 possesses.
Right.. now start a spiral climb opposite to the torque of the La5.... Lemme know how that goes.
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Right.. now start a spiral climb opposite to the torque of the La5.... Lemme know how that goes.
Could work. I should point out, although both La-Las are equipped with massive radials attached to a very small amount of airplane, they do not seem to suffer from torque to the extent that 109-Ks, Spit14s, Tempests or other high-powered monsters do. For whatever reason. :rolleyes:
Rather hard for me to believe in the context of this thread that P-38J fliers would want to flame me for pointing out that it is mostly a high-quality pilot base that leads to the success the stats are showing, rather than inherent superiority of the plane itself. :devil
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Could work. I should point out, although both La-Las are equipped with massive radials attached to a very small amount of airplane, they do not seem to suffer from torque to the extent that 109-Ks, Spit14s, Tempests or other high-powered monsters do. For whatever reason. :rolleyes:
Rather hard for me to believe in the context of this thread that P-38J fliers would want to flame me for pointing out that it is mostly a high-quality pilot base that leads to the success the stats are showing, rather than inherent superiority of the plane itself. :devil
it's the combination.
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Do I have to repost the gunsight that was created specially for them to use? Why is it they are the only ones that are able to use a gunsight that tells them exactly where to lead and shoot? Is that not concrete proof enough? Or the deal with torpedos. Last night in the Mid-War arena I overheard two SAPP players on the radio talking about bombing a town with torpedos, why can they do that and us normal players cannot? Again, need anymore proof there is a bias going on here?
Sure, you can deny it all you want but I think I've layed out a pretty good argument full of proof and facts, which you have not produced yourself to counter any of mine. This just goes to show that you guys have something to hide.
I am not denying that as a Member of SAPP we are privvy to things others are not. There are some amazing minds in that group with a passion for this game and the aircraft they love. The residue of this (again) is a vast library of tried and true tactics along with some custom downloads which are used to enhance the abilities to which the P-38 can be utilized, all within the acceptable limits of "fair play" in the game.
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B4Buster tsk tsk
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Sounds like people just dont know how to fight the 38 because they've never fought in the 38. I'm not saying its an easy plane to kill givin the fact there is a good stick driving it. I'm just saying there's a way to get the better of every plane and every pilot flying that place. Screaming perk it... May make them a little less likely to be seen in numbers but the guys who know how to fly em, are still going to fly em, and you're still going to die... not knowing how to beat them.
What it really sounds like is you got your butt handed to you multiple times by someone in a 38 and you think it's the plane not the pilot. While the 38 is a sweet ride, its not invicible especially against some of the other planes in the MWA.
If you find your rear getting handed to you over and over again you should do one of two things. Watch and learn... Or grab a ride that's comparable in flight characteristics and work them... While you're watching and learning.
At the end of the day crying does no good to better your ability. In this game or anything else for that matter.
Edit: Oh and if its a troll so be it... But what was written goes for anyone who has a problem with a different plane they think should be perked or what have you.
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Get it INto your head, budd. The SAPP guys are not freakin' gods. Go fly a Lightning and see how difficult it is. I still can't kill a Spitfire VIII on a regular basis and I fly the Lightning on a regular basis...
You just might feel the wrath of the "Consortium of Twelve". Especially "The Grand Exalted Ruler."
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You just might feel the wrath of the "Consortium of Twelve". Especially "The Grand Exalted Ruler."
Crap.
I guess that thunder, lightning and blazing rain didn't come from just anywhere when I posted that message...
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Crap.
I guess that thunder, lightning and blazing rain didn't come from just anywhere when I posted that message...
You're wound tighter than a Timex at it's limit.
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perking the 38 would do nothing .your talking about guys thats been playing this game for years and flying the 38 so there not using them . they dont even care about landing there kills .they run out of ammo or gas they auger there plane and reup.but what would happen the newer guys that would like to learn the plane .they would be limited.and the funny thing is they fly low side country's and when they fly knights everyone's there best buddy .and what are we talking about here a couple guys throwing a wrench in there undefended base taking. :noid
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they dont even care about landing there kills .they run out of ammo or gas they auger there plane and reup.
We've been known to do that with a full tank of gas and 0 bullets fired :aok
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they run out of ammo or gas they auger there plane and reup.
Well all the WTGs and namecalling on 200 gets old after every flight.
BTW, learn how to spell and use punctuation, I have a headache now.
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Did he just say skuzzy smells like a troll?
You weren't supposed to catch that... U du4n p38 n00b!!!!!!!11!!!1!one!!eleven!!!!
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Pj is a bichin LATE war arena ride, imagine how a good 38 stick does with it in MW (alas, there are so few fights in there it's hard to tell)
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I think I slapped ISpy's spit with my 38 around one too many times :aok
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. they dont even care about landing there kills .
BAH!! Shuffler cares!!! He's a showoff!!! :devil
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Someone mention Torps on the town? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/38drop.jpg)
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You're wound tighter than a Timex at it's limit.
lol what??
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Someone mention Torps on the town? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/38drop.jpg)
The mastermind behind the whole cult himself, you can tell it's Corky's plane by the small intakes. This is a good piece of evidence. You give SAPP a bad name Corky
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We had our mechanics take care of ISPY. You won't be hearing from him again.
It's tough being a SAPP'er at times. Take tonight for instance, I was low and slow and was going to duck under the water and pickup on a 109s tail as I came up. Well I had loaded the 20mm_kit and the 30mm_kit but forgot the Amphib_pak. ==
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ispy, i read your first 2 paragraphs about the 38j and almost died laughing. the accusations that SAPP members do "God-like things" is FARRRR from true...look at my stats last tour, im in SAPP, but i suck in the 38;im not doing this "god-like" stuff you describe "all" members of SAPP doing. also, some players in MW (like AKAK) have been playing for a damn long time, and flown the P38 for a good amount of that time in the (for the most part) same arena. nothing wrong with being good in a plane. the first 2 paragraphs sounded like you tryin to get us for cheating because we out fly some "uber" planes, which is far from true for some (maybe most) of us. The 38j does not need a perk in the MWP arena, if you know its weakness use it to your advantage. i know 2 of em, not sayin though since we all do "God-like things" in them.
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I do "God-like" things in every plane.....Thanks HTC..SAPP really appreciates it
ispy, i read your first 2 paragraphs about the 38j and almost died laughing. the accusations that SAPP members do "God-like things" is FARRRR from true...look at my stats last tour, im in SAPP, but i suck in the 38;im not doing this "god-like" stuff you describe "all" members of SAPP doing. also, some players in MW (like AKAK) have been playing for a damn long time, and flown the P38 for a good amount of that time in the (for the most part) same arena. nothing wrong with being good in a plane. the first 2 paragraphs sounded like you tryin to get us for cheating because we out fly some "uber" planes, which is far from true for some (maybe most) of us. The 38j does not need a perk in the MWP arena, if you know its weakness use it to your advantage. i know 2 of em, not sayin though since we all do "God-like things" in them.
You have to be a member for a certain amount of time before you get these abilities :aok
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I do "God-like" things in every plane.....Thanks HTC..SAPP really appreciates it
You have to be a member for a certain amount of time before you get these abilities :aok
:rofl maybe im missin somethin when i see you fly banshee
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WHO IS ISPY?
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WHO IS ISPY?
The brain behind Operation Perk The P-38J!
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Does Dubya fly Aces High? Seems like his style...
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perking the 38 would do nothing .your talking about guys thats been playing this game for years and flying the 38 so there not using them . they dont even care about landing there kills .they run out of ammo or gas they auger there plane and reup.but what would happen the newer guys that would like to learn the plane .they would be limited.and the funny thing is they fly low side country's and when they fly knights everyone's there best buddy .and what are we talking about here a couple guys throwing a wrench in there undefended base taking. :noid
i always land.
it's just a question of how large of an area my landing parts cover. or how deep they sink. :rofl
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:rofl maybe im missin somethin when i see you fly banshee
:noid
yeah...you're missing me fly period :aok
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The brain behind Operation Perk The P-38J!
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Not sure about the brain part....
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I just find it strange that it's only those in SAPP that are able to make shots in a vertical zoom climb from d1.2 out and kill with just a single 20mm round. Or why is it only that SAPP players are able to out turn planes that are well known to be better maneuvering planes like the Hurricane IIc, A6M5, Seafire, Spitfire 9, Spitfire 8 and the P-51B (which hands down in real life was far better than the P-38 ever was, which was recently shown on that Great Planes on the Military Channel). Not to mention that any of the Luftwaffe aircraft were far superior with the exception of the Stuka and maybe the Bf 110C-4. The others blow the P-38 out of the water but that's not the case here for certain players, which proves that SAPP players get specially 'tuned' P-38Js and the Luftwaffe fighters are extremely under modeled. I just watched last week on my Wings of the Luftwaffe DVD how easily a Bf109 could out maneuver in both the vertical and horizontal against a P-38 and basically thought they were nothing more than flying targets. But that's not how it is in here. Need any more facts or proof?
You should probably stay away from quoting the Military Channel. No way do they give all the planes the right credit. The P-51B was not "hands down" better than the P-38 at anything. Its all about the pilot. 25% Plane - 75% Pilot
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No one ever complains about the 38G. I must be doing something wrong :(
You do everything wrong.......
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Someone tell me Ispy is joking. :huh
OK Ill tell you.. HES JOKING.
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That's just silly. Why would you believe something like that? It's not like some of those guys are running around the boards with special HTC bestowed tags under their names :noid
Im so mad that my 38 has been besmirched. I may start both engines from now on.............
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Anyone who believes SAPP have anything other than good skills, seriously needs their head testing - they are simply that good!!
(nice stinky bait - what is that tug on the side of my mouth I feel? lol)
Wurzel
OK I will tell you the trick.. We use our blowup dolls illegally. Helium in Fifi for lift or tie a rock around her ankle for extra fast braking power.
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Im going with Shuffler posting with a shade.... :D Sound like his humor to me....
Funniest dang post ive seen in a long time....
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Nope its not Shuff. He cant spell torpedo........
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The key point to remember here is that P38 pilots do it better.
What 'it' is, we're not sure, but we do it better :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/4741.jpg)
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Great screenshot Corky! A great way to end Operation Perk The P-38J, another successful SAPP operation.
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Nope its not Shuff. He cant spell torpedo........
Hmnmmmm its one of you sapp's....
I dont think AKAK can be that funny.... mabye its you Silat yaaaa its LEW....... he done it..
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:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Do I have to repost the gunsight that was created specially for them to use? Why is it they are the only ones that are able to use a gunsight that tells them exactly where to lead and shoot? Is that not concrete proof enough? Or the deal with torpedos. Last night in the Mid-War arena I overheard two SAPP players on the radio talking about bombing a town with torpedos, why can they do that and us normal players cannot? Again, need anymore proof there is a bias going on here?
Sure, you can deny it all you want but I think I've layed out a pretty good argument full of proof and facts, which you have not produced yourself to counter any of mine. This just goes to show that you guys have something to hide.
Wow! Full of proof and facts and everything. It must be good.
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Do I have to repost the gunsight that was created specially for them to use? Why is it they are the only ones that are able to use a gunsight that tells them exactly where to lead and shoot? Is that not concrete proof enough? Or the deal with torpedos. Last night in the Mid-War arena I overheard two SAPP players on the radio talking about bombing a town with torpedos, why can they do that and us normal players cannot? Again, need anymore proof there is a bias going on here?
Sure, you can deny it all you want but I think I've layed out a pretty good argument full of proof and facts, which you have not produced yourself to counter any of mine. This just goes to show that you guys have something to hide.
lolz that is teh FUNAY.
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lolz that is teh FUNAY.
and to think someone said this about me...
Hmnmmmm its one of you sapp's....
I dont think AKAK can be that funny....
you and any other BKs are more than welcome to join us in our BBQ this weekend when we cook up some of the fish we caught this week.
:D
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This was classic :)
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I'm not going to read all these posts. Dude the 38 is a good plane in the right hands. I've tried several times and I can't fly the damn thing. I've almost, repeat almost asked for help on how to fly them. My simple solution is that I don't. Please don't bash the SAPP guys for knowing how to fly there plane and with good wingman tactics. I've run into them and even gotten some good advice on how I could have fight them better in the future. Don't flame them. Just go up there and beat em. Learn from your mistakes. I knew in LW I was going to get picked or shot down, but if you give up you'll never learn. Plus they won't respect you. Pawz and one of his buddies which I think is still learning the P38, were flying high alt cap. Pawz shot me down when I got on his buddy and I immediately reupped and went back. I came co alt and co e with Pawz. I had very close firing solutions on him and after a good tussle he got me. He offered me advice that so far has worked for me. I after i got pwned he respected the fight. I respected his skills and he paid me off with good advice. I still may not be able to shoot him down but i'll be a little bit more experienced thanks to a SAPP pilot who likes a good fight. <S> to all SAPP pilots.
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I'm not going to read all these posts. Dude the 38 is a good plane in the right hands. I've tried several times and I can't fly the damn thing. I've almost, repeat almost asked for help on how to fly them. My simple solution is that I don't. Please don't bash the SAPP guys for knowing how to fly there plane and with good wingman tactics. I've run into them and even gotten some good advice on how I could have fight them better in the future. Don't flame them. Just go up there and beat em. Learn from your mistakes. I knew in LW I was going to get picked or shot down, but if you give up you'll never learn. Plus they won't respect you. Pawz and one of his buddies which I think is still learning the P38, were flying high alt cap. Pawz shot me down when I got on his buddy and I immediately reupped and went back. I came co alt and co e with Pawz. I had very close firing solutions on him and after a good tussle he got me. He offered me advice that so far has worked for me. I after i got pwned he respected the fight. I respected his skills and he paid me off with good advice. I still may not be able to shoot him down but i'll be a little bit more experienced thanks to a SAPP pilot who likes a good fight. <S> to all SAPP pilots.
A bait less hook catches one more. :aok
pst Choker, read the last 2 pages.
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I've tried several times and I can't fly the damn thing.
Sheese...the 38s, at least as they compare to the other rides in MW, is next to the spit in terms of easy mode play. Damned, I'm sure htc has modified the thing since I last played, I didn't much care for it for years, but this latest foray in AH I am really enjoying it. Something is different about it. Its simply easier to work with than it used to be.
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funny thing I hardly ever see a p38 in early war. hurri2 is #1
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Sheese...the 38s, at least as they compare to the other rides in MW, is next to the spit in terms of easy mode play. Damned, I'm sure htc has modified the thing since I last played, I didn't much care for it for years, but this latest foray in AH I am really enjoying it. Something is different about it. Its simply easier to work with than it used to be.
Not joking here... Maybe everyone around you sucks. I take little breaks here and there but come back god awful, and yet somehow I manage to kill a couple. I haven't got any better, so the skill level of everyone else has to be going down.
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funny thing I hardly ever see a p38 in early war. hurri2 is #1
Just to venture a guess I'd say that's because the 38J isn't in EW and the G is perked. :)
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Just to venture a guess I'd say that's because the 38J isn't in EW and the G is perked. :)
It's more like it's hard to find a fight in EW since most that play in there do nothing but milk run undefended bases. Other day I saw 15 in EW, figured I'd drop in and up a G and have some fun. Turns out I was the only player in a fighter, everyone else was in a GV or buff hitting undefended bases.
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and to think someone said this about me...
you and any other BKs are more than welcome to join us in our BBQ this weekend when we cook up some of the fish we caught this week.
:D
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I think it would be easy to get a few together in there. :devil
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Sheese...the 38s, at least as they compare to the other rides in MW, is next to the spit in terms of easy mode play.
tossin a bit more bait out thereare ya? :rofl
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Just to venture a guess I'd say that's because the 38J isn't in EW and the G is perked. :)
that and gettin ho'd by an ew hotard sucks. :aok
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Votes this thread as MOAT Winnah 2009...or at least till Skuzzy beats it down with a whup stick :aok
Yup ... but it will never surpass the BK MOAT ... :D
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True. BK MOAT and WOOWOO should be enshrined at The Smithsonian.
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and to think someone said this about me...
you and any other BKs are more than welcome to join us in our BBQ this weekend when we cook up some of the fish we caught this week.
:D
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Ill bring the beer.
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It's more like it's hard to find a fight in EW since most that play in there do nothing but milk run undefended bases. Other day I saw 15 in EW, figured I'd drop in and up a G and have some fun. Turns out I was the only player in a fighter, everyone else was in a GV or buff hitting undefended bases.
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Been there done that too. Although once they all upped at once to fight. Fought all five of them together for a few minutes before they got me. Then one has the audacity to tell me what I did wrong. :D
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Been there done that too. Although once they all upped at once to fight. Fought all five of them together for a few minutes before they got me. Then one has the audacity to tell me what I did wrong. :D
:rofl no..... not the mighty Kuhn T. You should have upped a D3A. I flew against 6 of them there without receiving as much as a ping, got 2 of them and pinged the heck outta the rest. I tried to rtb when outta ammo and they chased me all the way back while blasting me on the all channel. One guy augered diving on me when his 109 comressed right at my base. I was laughing so hard I screwed up the landing and didn't land the kills. That was sometime ago and I haven't been back. It could and was a fun place to fight about a year ago. Heck Lusche was playing alot in the arena back then. Now the place is like taking a handful of Benedryl. It would be fun to have a EW night once a week. It most likely would turn into a Hurri fest though.
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We could probably even drag Levia-Elf out for a good old BBQ. Even she has her weaknesses.
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:rofl no..... not the mighty Kuhn T. You should have upped a D3A. I flew against 6 of them there without receiving as much as a ping, got 2 of them and pinged the heck outta the rest. I tried to rtb when outta ammo and they chased me all the way back while blasting me on the all channel. I guy augered diving on me when his 109 comressed right at my base. I was laughing so hard I screwed up the landing and didn't land the kills. That was sometime ago and I haven't been back. I could and was a fun place to fight about a year ago. Heck Lusche was playing alot in the arena back then. Now the place is like taking a handful of Benedryl. It would be fun to have a EW night once a week. It most likely would turn into a Hurri fest though.
Thats Kuhn T Hall to you BigplayT. I agree the EW was fun at one time and the Hurri2s were abundant. That one night a week thing could work with the right people.
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Yup ... but it will never surpass the BK MOAT ... :D
Hehe...it was our inspiration. :D
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Thats Kuhn T Hall to you BigplayT. I agree the EW was fun at one time and the Hurri2s were abundant. That one night a week thing could work with the right people.
It would most likely work for a few days or even a couple of weeks but the lack of a really true EW plane set will eventually cause most to lose interest. Hopefully, with the Brewster teaser Pyro gave us, hopefully the EW plane set will start getting addressed.
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I'm hoping theres one or two more comperable A/C coming in with the Brewster (I-16? Gladiator?) that we aren't hearing about. The EW can be a blast the once a year you actually find a good fight in there. Its nothing but a perk farm now.
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1 night a week in there.... possibly TT night.
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It would most likely work for a few days or even a couple of weeks but the lack of a really true EW plane set will eventually cause most to lose interest. Hopefully, with the Brewster teaser Pyro gave us, hopefully the EW plane set will start getting addressed.
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Is that pessimistic optimism? :D
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1 night a week in there.... possibly TT night.
Now thats a good idea. TT's flaws outweigh it's positives in my book. Unless its a SAPP night I'll usually look in the MW or AvA for some good fights.
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Is that pessimistic optimism? :D
Or artificial realism? :rofl
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speaking of EW on tuesdays there was almost 30 in there this week .so i dropped in . funny thing still no dar bar
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It would most likely work for a few days or even a couple of weeks but the lack of a really true EW plane set will eventually cause most to lose interest. Hopefully, with the Brewster teaser Pyro gave us, hopefully the EW plane set will start getting addressed.
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your right we would need a few needed planes to spice up the arena. A Ki-43 would be a blast as well as a few other rides.
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speaking of EW on tuesdays there was almost 30 in there this week .so i dropped in . funny thing still no dar bar
I've seen that too. No fields or bases flashing either. Wonder what they're doing.
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I've seen that too. No fields or bases flashing either. Wonder what they're doing.
we could fix that........
if we had a SAPP night in there, we could split ourselve evenly, and have fun.
the other thing we could do, is to find the low nuymbers side, and wreak havock against the guys milk runnin.......we could easily follow them base to base. :devil
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Not since we got called too often on the overmodeled P-38G and it got castrated.
Actually no it didn't, they just said it was. Way to go HT. The scotch must have been good. famous Grouse?
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38 G still very viable even with more weight.
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38 G still very viable even with more weight.
Quiet you.
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Come on... use your head or we will :)
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Did you read the fine print?
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We could probably even drag Levia-Elf out for a good old BBQ. Even she has her weaknesses.
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"She" used to be a pretty good 38 stick back in the day too :)
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Did you read the fine print?
No... thought it was a line with personal problem lol.....
but it says . . .
"Actually no it didn't, they just said it was. Way to go HT. The scotch must have been good. famous Grouse?"
:aok
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I've seen that too. No fields or bases flashing either. Wonder what they're doing.
Reach-arounds ?
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We could probably even drag Levia-Elf out for a good old BBQ. Even she has her weaknesses.
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I'm sure Lev will look really funny in his green tights elven flight suit.
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g267/carolineryder/peter_pan2_1.jpg)
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I'm sure Lev will look really funny in his green tights elven flight suit.
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g267/carolineryder/peter_pan2_1.jpg)
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:rofl actually it looks like bipolar
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lol too bad we are not still doing pics on Nilsen.... I'd have to use this one to make some like I did for that thread....
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/Shuff_photos/neilsen_Image.gif)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/Shuff_photos/Happy.jpg)
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True. BK MOAT and WOOWOO should be enshrined at The Smithsonian.
LOL THOSE were the days.
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It's more like it's hard to find a fight in EW since most that play in there do nothing but milk run undefended bases. Other day I saw 15 in EW, figured I'd drop in and up a G and have some fun. Turns out I was the only player in a fighter, everyone else was in a GV or buff hitting undefended bases.
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I've been spending alot of time in the EW lately.
My mission? To ruin the fun.
Most of my time is spent in the tower waiting for a dar bar or a base to flash.
It usually doesn't take too long.
Most of the times the bases I find flashing are the ones with NO players on that side!
I change to that side and the fun begins.
There were 5 or 6 guys in a squad that were attacking rooks (i think) the other nite.
Of course there were no rooks on!
So I switched and proceeded to thwart their evil plans.
I actually received a PM from one of them asking me to "please leave us alone" !!
I love the EW now.
Theres actually some pretty nice guys in there, but most are somewhat misguided.
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I've been spending alot of time in the EW lately.
My mission? To ruin the fun.
Most of my time is spent in the tower waiting for a dar bar or a base to flash.
Alot of the times the base I find flashing are the ones with NO players on that side!
I change to that side and the fun begins.
There were 5 or 6 guys in a squad that were attacking rooks (i think) the other nite.
Of course there were no rooks on!
So I switched and proceeded to thwart their evil plans.
I actually received a PM from one of them asking me to "please leave us alone" !!
I love the EW now.
That actually sounds like a lot of fun when the other arenas suck. I would only be satisfied if I got some angry PMs though. <cross fingers>
As far as players who play EW just to capture bases with no resistance.... it's their $15 dolllars and HTC is laughing all the way to the bank. :rofl
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That actually sounds like a lot of fun when the other arenas suck. I would only be satisfied if I got some angry PMs though. <cross fingers>
As far as players who play EW just to capture bases with no resistance.... it's their $15 dolllars and HTC is laughing all the way to the bank. :rofl
I honestly don't really care that they are doing it, it just gives me great pleasure to foil their plans.
I think I'm starting to lean toward the "Dark Side"!!
Does that make me a bad person??
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I think I'm starting to lean toward the "Dark Side"!!
Does that make me a bad person??
Heck no, we have better booze.
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I honestly don't really care that they are doing it, it just gives me great pleasure to foil their plans.
I think I'm starting to lean toward the "Dark Side"!!
Does that make me a bad person??
it depends. does not being on the dark side make you a good person? :D
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Heck no, we have better booze.
In that case, drink em up boys!!
I'm buyin!!
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Actually we get HT to to tweak our planes, lest we realease more vids of him from the last AH Con.
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=9033f6781ff45a7930804e99bb244594
:noid
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Actually we get HT to to tweak our planes, lest we realease more vids of him from the last AH Con.
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=9033f6781ff45a7930804e99bb244594
:noid
LOL!
ack-ack
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Actually we get HT to to tweak our planes, lest we realease more vids of him from the last AH Con.
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=9033f6781ff45a7930804e99bb244594
:noid
:rofl :rofl
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Actually we get HT to to tweak our planes, lest we realease more vids of him from the last AH Con.
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=9033f6781ff45a7930804e99bb244594
:noid
yo..yo...you mean someone OTHER than 71 Squadron does that? They told me it was unique to them! :cry
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Will have to go into EW and bug sprkplg and the other women... lol
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better watch that Shuffler they might invade mid war in retaliation.
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LOL Trezie!
:rofl
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better watch that Shuffler they might invade mid war in retaliation.
ummm like anyone will notice
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better watch that Shuffler they might invade mid war in retaliation.
ummm like anyone will notice
besides there are folks on the other teams... will probably confuse them.
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Clearly Ackack, Shuffler, TwinBoom,Larry and VonHoltz need to be perked not the 38 :D
:cry
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better watch that Shuffler they might invade mid war in retaliation.
And get thumped in the process...bring on the WOMEN!
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ummm like anyone will notice
besides there are folks on the other teams... will probably confuse them.
now that's funny right there I don't care who you are.
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better watch that Shuffler they might invade mid war in retaliation.
They have already tried ... it didn't quite work out the way they expected.
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Threads like this make me want to fly a twin boom.
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Threads like this make me want to fly a twin boom.
YOU should. killing a spit9 in a zeek is ok.....killing a spit9 in a38......friggin awsome, and fun! :D
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P-38J is still the top killer in the MW so far this tour. What's really funny is that the panzer and whirblewind are the only two that are close to the P-38J in the kills department.
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Post a link to where that info is. I hardly ever look at anything over on the stat pages so I am kind of lost. I found some info under my name but not MW totals.
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wow, right when I begin to think there is hope for this world. At list fish bite on a plastic bait that kind of looks like food. I guess they are smarter than the average AH player :O
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wow, right when I begin to think there is hope for this world. At list fish bite on a plastic bait that kind of looks like food. I guess they are smarter than the average AH player :O
You would have thought the image of the gunsight was a dead give away ;)
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Post a link to where that info is. I hardly ever look at anything over on the stat pages so I am kind of lost. I found some info under my name but not MW totals.
http://www2.hitechcreations.com/scores/mainscores.html
Scroll down to "Planes" and select Mid-War arena and it will show a breakdown of kills by planes.
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You would have thought the image of the gunsight was a dead give away ;)
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You know, I only need 12 hours as ruler of this planet :O