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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ariansworld on April 09, 2009, 05:06:43 PM
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I am looking for a miata, I would like to trade my ar15 for one. Anyone have an older one for sale or know someone who does?
PM me with details pls.
Arian
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Most chicks drive em, you'd have to ask em.
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Most chicks drive em, you'd have to ask em.
Theres plenty of dudes that drive them.
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If you want a tiny, fun little roadster, get an M3. Miatas should come stock with a lipstick holder instead of a cigarette lighter. Only guys I've ever seen in them are wearing white pants and Hawaiian shirts.
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I am looking for a miata, I would like to trade my ar15 for one. Anyone have an older one for sale or know someone who does?
PM me with details pls.
Arian
The older ones are actually cool if you put a V-8 in it. Ford 5.0s drop in with only some modifications to the k-member. Somebody even puts in Chevy LS6 motors. They fit under the stock hood. Otherwise, it is a girl's car. You have to trade in your jewels to buy one.
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My Dad has a vette Z06 and a miata. The miata is more fun to drive around town, the vette is better on long trips. He finally dropped a supercharger into the miata though, and it makes a big difference. The miata handles extremely well and now it has a surprising amount of power.
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The only opinion that matters about the car is the one of the person behind the wheel. People that buy cars based on how other people will see them are spineless schmucks.
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Not sure about trading an AR15 for a vehicle but I guess it's worth a shot. Check Craigslist, autotrader, your local paper, etc. for used vehicles. Good luck.
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Dad has an 2008 Miata MX5 - damn thing is a rocket that corners better then any car I've seen. Kinda like a British roadster. I got a hot wife, so I don't care about my balls when driving that thing.
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drove a mkI once - great steering, balance and ride, brilliant fun. adding a blower is the way to go, couple of good kits out there and the engine is strong enough :aok best conversion has to be the 240hp honda S2000 engine, but thats pricey.
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The older ones are actually cool if you put a V-8 in it. Ford 5.0s drop in with only some modifications to the k-member. Somebody even puts in Chevy LS6 motors. They fit under the stock hood. Otherwise, it is a girl's car. You have to trade in your jewels to buy one.
had a customer that added a turbo, and an intercooler.......his ran 11.9's street legal.
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This is obviously a troll. Trading a rainbow brigade vehicle like a Miata for an evil black gun?
(not a very funny troll, but slightly amusing)
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This is obviously a troll. Trading a rainbow brigade vehicle like a Miata for an evil black gun?
(not a very funny troll, but slightly amusing)
dude....there's nothing wrong with the miatas. they're quick, handle like slot cars, and stop excellent.
do like someone else mentioned, and drop a 5.0L into one, and ya have a monster.
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I've always thought that the Miata looked like a roller skate.
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drove a mkI once - great steering, balance and ride, brilliant fun. adding a blower is the way to go, couple of good kits out there and the engine is strong enough :aok best conversion has to be the 240hp honda S2000 engine, but thats pricey.
Miata's handle beautifully, but they're definitely not for "real men" who define themselves by their engine displacement and how much rubber they can lay down.
BTW We S2K guys have to agree unanimously by vote before we sell that motor to Infidels. :D
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had a customer that added a turbo, and an intercooler.......his ran 11.9's street legal.
That's a freakin' fast Miata. The only reason I'd prefer a V8 over that setup is the sound. I think loud 4 cylinder engines sound like crap. The exception is the Subaru Boxer motor. Those sound very cool and turbo-ed can make gobs of power. Hmmm, now that would be a way cooler motor swap than the S2000 IMO. I am actually planning (when $ allows) to do a stroked V8 1st generation Miata. The STi motor tuned up to about 500hp would be a nice alternative. Hearing the rush of the turbo inhaling and the blow-off valve popping was wicked on my WRX. Adding another 200 HP and dropping 1000 pounds would make one fun ride. And a nice coffin. :devil
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I think loud 4 cylinder engines sound like crap.
Surly you're not including my 9K screaming banshee? ;)
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(http://image.automobilemag.com/f/features/news/6673837/0602_volkswagen_scirocco_445.jpg)
Volkswagen Scirocco 16V MKII
Get one of these instead......
It's German, it's faster, handles better, looks better and you get to keep your testicles..
Probably a better chance at survival in a serious accident as well..
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As soon as I saw this thread topic I knew everyone was going to say that the Miata is a girl's car.
Funny that the curves of the Miata remind me of the Spitfire. :devil
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If you need a small car, yet want to keep your dignity, perhaps one of these will suffice...
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/chevrolet-chevette-10.jpg)
(http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/01/champ.jpg)
(http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/02-hagerty-yugo.jpg)
(http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/08/0824_uglycars/image/3pinto.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Renault5-Le_Car.jpg)
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Ok, you may have give up partial masculinity if you drive this one only because it's French..
Also, I'd think you would be more likely to get one of these for the price of your AR15..
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As soon as I saw this thread topic I knew everyone was going to say that the Miata is a girl's car.
Funny that the curves of the Miata remind me of the Spitfire. :devil
It's all subjective, but I don't understand the swooning over the "beauty" of the Spitfire. It is a decent looking plane except for those wings.
They remind me of Kathy Bates in the hot tub scene in About Schmidt. I so wish I never saw that.
LeCar... :rofl
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For your viewing pleasure............
(http://www.hunniesheavenlyhaven.com/thehaven/images/kbates.jpg)
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Sounds like you want a drivers car.
Skip all this crap and get the ultimate driving machine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_New_Class#2002_.282-door.29
(http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/1974_BMW_2002_Turbo_Front_Spoiler_and_Panasports_1.jpg)
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Well balanced, high power to weight, excellent visibility, cheap and simple to work on. It can carry an extra engine in its own trunk. You can lift the entire motor out by hand. Performance parts have been made for decades and can be found cheap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_ewZ4oHMIs
Oh yea, it'll go strait too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-YX-p9xDaU
Who said they didn't like the sound of a blown 4 cylinder?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGscg6Zl8rA&feature=related
Bottom line, for a fraction of the cost you could have one of these turning laps around a Mazda or any of the newer small 2 door sports cars. They don't call it the ultimate driving machine for nothing, I've never driven a car that is more user friendly, easy and fun to drive. The driver's position and visibility alone put it literally head and shoulders above anything in its class.
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As soon as I saw this thread topic I knew everyone was going to say that the Miata is a girl's car.
This thread was guaranteed to bring out rampant masculine insecurity. :rolleyes: If you define yourself by what you drive, then you're a pathetic shallow person. :D Reminds me of a friend who said he'd never be caught dead in a pink shirt. I explained to him that women would love it, and besides, a real man isn't afraid of a color.
Sounds like you want a drivers car.
Skip all this crap and get the ultimate driving machine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_New_Class#2002_.282-door.29
(http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/1974_BMW_2002_Turbo_Front_Spoiler_and_Panasports_1.jpg)
This guy knows his rides. :aok 2002's were great, but frankly I'd rather have an M3. I have a "driver's car". It rewards skill, and punishes stupidity severely. :uhoh
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If you're into that type of car why not a Honda S2000. Never seen a Miata with a V8 transplant before.BS till I see it :rolleyes:
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t115/BRYAN786/2005-Racing-Honda-S2000.jpg)
NO MODs
(http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q407/Willz_Ink/Honda%20S2000/2007_Honda_S2000_TypeS.jpg)
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Surly you're not including my 9K screaming banshee? ;)
Only if you don't have a fart can and whale-tail spoiler on it.
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Only if you don't have a fart can and whale-tail spoiler on it.
You left out the "underglow" lighting and the 3 foot woofers designed to crack the welds in the car sitting beside you. Nope, no riceboy crap in my garage. I have a '91 CRX as well. Original owner, 260K+ miles, lowered but otherwise externally stock. Amazingly reliable considering how I've treated it for 18 years. Actually easier to drive fast than the S2K.
To be honest though, I am close to dropping a B18C5 in the CRX. Would that make me a Riceboy, or just a suicidal middle-aged man? :D
If you're into that type of car why not a Honda S2000. Never seen a Miata with a V8 transplant before.BS till I see it :rolleyes:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn263/pgh_micko08/Honda-S2000.jpg)
BTW, that's not a stock S2K. Looks like a Mugen front bumper.
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If you need a small car, yet want to keep your dignity, perhaps one of these will suffice...
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/chevrolet-chevette-10.jpg)
(http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/01/champ.jpg)
(http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/02-hagerty-yugo.jpg)
(http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/08/0824_uglycars/image/3pinto.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Renault5-Le_Car.jpg)
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Ok, you may have give up partial masculinity if you drive this one only because it's French..
Also, I'd think you would be more likely to get one of these for the price of your AR15..
knew a guy that had an 8.5 second chevette, one with a 9 second pinto
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knew a guy that had an 8.5 second chevette, one with a 9 second pinto
The old Renault 5 Turbo was certainly no slouch either. And it was a factory car.
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Ok, you may have give up partial masculinity if you drive this one only because it's French..
Hey, I'm kind of a francophile myself, and the Citroens with hydraulic suspensions are simply awesome to drive. My step-father used to have a '72 DS. I still miss it sometimes. Its best gas mileage was at around 85mph, reflecting the speed limit of French highways.(http://www.autoevolution.com/images/news/jay-leno-escapes-traffic-jam-with-citroen-ds-4004_2.jpg)
How did a country with a reputation for womanizing ever become a threat to masculinity? I'll never understand...
Oh, and lastly, psychologists have fairly conclusive evidence that low self-esteem correlates with high-horsepower cars. Which car owner's have the best self-esteem? Mini-van drivers. :lol
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Hey, I'm kind of a francophile myself, and the Citroens with hydraulic suspensions are simply awesome to drive. My step-father used to have a '72 DS. I still miss it sometimes. Its best gas mileage was at around 85mph, reflecting the speed limit of French highways.(http://www.autoevolution.com/images/news/jay-leno-escapes-traffic-jam-with-citroen-ds-4004_2.jpg)
How did a country with a reputation for womanizing ever become a threat to masculinity? I'll never understand...
Oh, and lastly, psychologists have fairly conclusive evidence that low self-esteem correlates with high-horsepower cars. Which car owner's have the best self-esteem? Mini-van drivers. :lol
Never could get over watching one of those things lie down when you shut it off. :D
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The old Renault 5 Turbo was certainly no slouch either. And it was a factory car.
b ut it was only a Renault. :D
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Theres plenty of dudes that drive them.
The two types of dudes drive the Miata. Those that are gay and those that drive their girlfriend's car.
ack-ack
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The two types of dudes drive the Miata. Those that are gay and those that drive their girlfriend's car.
ack-ack
and those that've dropped v-8 into em, those that put big arsed turbos on em, and then spend their weekends at the track hammering mustangs and camaros. :D
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Never seen a Miata with a V8 transplant before.BS till I see it :rolleyes:
http://www.monstermiata.com/
[edit]oops, that was the Canuckistan link. Here we go.
Dad's on his second Miata, and two other friends of mine also drive them, although one did admittedly give it to his daughter (he's an OTR driver, no need for a car atm). It must suck to be short and have a small noodle- all kinds of fun cars you aren't secure enough to drive.
Another interesting swap, although I think it was a one-off, was done by Racing Beat a number of years back- IIRC, they swapped a 13B TT into an early Miata. I'm a recovering rotorhead, so an American V8 swap is almost heresy, but I have to admit, either would be a great deal of fun.
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It must suck to be short and have a small noodle- all kinds of fun cars you aren't secure enough to drive.
Or to be a normal sized human who doesn't want to have to fold himself up like an accordion to drive a skateboard with a weedwhacker motor.
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Or to be a normal sized human who doesn't want to have to fold himself up like an accordion to drive a skateboard with a weedwhacker motor.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<< is 6'2, and fits in them perfectly fine.
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<< is 6'2, and fits in them perfectly fine.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<< is 6'4", 250 pounds and feels like Andre the Giant getting in and out of his girlfriends Escort.
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6'2", 215# I understand liking some room, but there's a difference between a car being too small, and claiming it's only driven by women or homosexuals.
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(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p185/pxdig/the-mazda-miata-demotivational.jpg)
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(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p185/pxdig/the-mazda-miata-demotivational.jpg)
Is the driver that guy from Great Planes and Showdown? :confused:
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<< is 6'4", 250 pounds and feels like Andre the Giant getting in and out of his girlfriends Escort.
i'm only 165 or so........but it's still very easy to get in and out of em. i never had trouble in mom's escort when i was young...she had an 86, and i don't have trouble in her protege now...it's a 94. roomwise, i have more trouble in a crown vic than anything. for as big as they are, the frakkin roof is LOW inside.
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Never seen a Miata with a V8 transplant before.BS till I see it :rolleyes:
Here is one website that might interest you. There are quite a few companies that do this.
http://www.v8roadsters.com/Home/
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http://www.monstermiata.com/
[edit]oops, that was the Canuckistan link. Here we go.
Dad's on his second Miata, and two other friends of mine also drive them, although one did admittedly give it to his daughter (he's an OTR driver, no need for a car atm). It must suck to be short and have a small noodle- all kinds of fun cars you aren't secure enough to drive.
Another interesting swap, although I think it was a one-off, was done by Racing Beat a number of years back- IIRC, they swapped a 13B TT into an early Miata. I'm a recovering rotorhead, so an American V8 swap is almost heresy, but I have to admit, either would be a great deal of fun.
Well Im wrong. 4k for the kit. Didnt see anything on the motor, or transmission, or rear end, or roll cage. Hate to see someone take a roll in 1 of those. Just MO. :rofl I live in a rural area filled mostly of Suv's and pickups. But a friend had 1. First 4cylinder rear wheel drive I'd ever driven. Im just not a Mazada guy I guess. I did have an Acura Integra once.Only person I know around here that has 1 anymore is a british guy on my road, Ironic . To each his own.
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A WHOLE lotta compensating going on in this thread. ;)
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:lol Not compensating, it's just fun to have a fast car. The easiest way to do that is get the smallest, lightest car and put the most powerful engine that fits in it. Or you could drop even more money on a new Corvette and watch the little Miata blow by you. :O
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If they'd had the sense to put a rotary in it in the first place... but I digress.
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You don not have to be gay to have a miata. Where I work they had one, I drove it I absolutely like how the car handled. The clutch did not have a lot of play and I couldnt stall the darn thing. It is definantly A LOT better than a bunch of the other sports cars that I have driven at work. Audi's volkswagons and various other cars. The reason that I dont like the audis or volkswagons is that they are very tempermental if you have a manual tranny it it. Plus the repair bill is outrageous. I do happen to like the jetta tdi in a 6 speed. But I will not be going to buy one of those. I just simply want a madza miata.
Arian
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:lol Not compensating, it's just fun to have a fast car. The easiest way to do that is get the smallest, lightest car and put the most powerful engine that fits in it. Or you could drop even more money on a new Corvette and watch the little Miata blow by you. :O
My car does 164, I agree. I mean the Miata bashing.
If I wanted to go even faster, I'd buy an Elise or maybe an Atom.
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Never seen a Miata with a V8 transplant before.BS till I see it :rolleyes:
They've been doing it since they first appeared in 89. Also, I've seen one "Shogun" which is a Ford Festiva with a Taurus SHO engine. It was fast! Last I heard the Shogun's got as high as 425hp for rwd. It makes the most of the engine, for the lightweight chassis though.
The Monster Miatas are not only not worth it, they force the owner to replace the entire drivetrain. To do the conversion yourself, IIRC you'll need a 90-96 Cougar/T-Bird IRS, T-5 trans, beefier springs and a larger front anti-roll bar.
My buddy in HS (grad. in 91) had an Omni GLH. He easily beat every car he raced.
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They've been doing it since they first appeared in 89. Also, I've seen one "Shogun" which is a Ford Festiva with a Taurus SHO engine. It was fast! Last I heard the Shogun's got as high as 425hp for rwd. It makes the most of the engine, for the lightweight chassis though.
The Monster Miatas are not only not worth it, they force the owner to replace the entire drivetrain. To do the conversion yourself, IIRC you'll need a 90-96 Cougar/T-Bird IRS, T-5 trans, beefier springs and a larger front anti-roll bar.
My buddy in HS (grad. in 91) had an Omni GLH. He easily beat every car he raced.
Not to mention it would understeer like a mother.
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I am looking for a miata, I would like to trade my ar15 for one. Anyone have an older one for sale or know someone who does?
PM me with details pls.
Arian
The entry price for a decent Miata is about $2k, and even then it would take work to get it presentable in public.
Your AR-15 would have to be pretty high-level to get that, with plenty of bells and whistles. Tac rails, collapsible stock, laser site, M203, mags and a hardcase with Gor-Tex rifle sock, at the least.
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I found a miata in the bulletion board. I am calling up tomorrow and asking if they will trade for it.
I dont care If it requires some work, because that could be experience under my belt. I am mechanically enclined, so fixing a car would not be a problem for me.
But any how I am hoping they will trade for it and will go and look at it and test drive it maybe.
Arian
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M203,
Are those legal? :huh
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My car does 164, I agree. I mean the Miata bashing.
If I wanted to go even faster, I'd buy an Elise or maybe an Atom.
my 89 mustang topped 150 easily. dunno how fast i was going. the speedo stopped at 140..and i wrapped the needle around to hit 0 again....that was at 5400rpm in 5th gear with 3.73;s, and she was still pulling when i lifted.
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I agree.
You dont have to be gay to drive a Miata........
but it helps. :rofl
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my 89 mustang topped 150 easily. dunno how fast i was going. the speedo stopped at 140..and i wrapped the needle around to hit 0 again....that was at 5400rpm in 5th gear with 3.73;s, and she was still pulling when i lifted.
Stock? If so, I call BS. My Dad drove 5.0 mustangs for a living (Calif Hwy Patrol) and every model of the 5.0 mustang from 1987 through 1993 simply ran out of pull at around 140. He said the 1991 was probably the fastest because they started adding more smog equipment, leading to a HP derating to 220 (from 225) in 1993.
But 150 in a stock 1989 mustang... nonsense. A stang of that era would need somewhere around 300hp to touch 150.
On top of that, I raced a 199x mustang in my 1998 trans-am back in early 1998, and above 120 there was simply no comparison. Starting from 80 with the stang driver working the gears and me simply leaving it in 5th (an overdrive gear hehe) the stang wheezed it's way up to 130ish around the time I passed 140 even though I didn't downshift or anything. I let up as I passed 150 (all the car mags tested my car up to a measured 159) but the mustang never even came close to 140.
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Stock? If so, I call BS. My Dad drove 5.0 mustangs for a living (Calif Hwy Patrol) and every model of the 5.0 mustang from 1987 through 1993 simply ran out of pull at around 140. He said the 1991 was probably the fastest because they started adding more smog equipment, leading to a HP derating to 220 (from 225) in 1993.
But 150 in a stock 1989 mustang... nonsense. A stang of that era would need somewhere around 300hp to touch 150.
On top of that, I raced a 199x mustang in my 1998 trans-am back in early 1998, and above 120 there was simply no comparison. Starting from 80 with the stang driver working the gears and me simply leaving it in 5th (an overdrive gear hehe) the stang wheezed it's way up to 130ish around the time I passed 140 even though I didn't downshift or anything. I let up as I passed 150 (all the car mags tested my car up to a measured 159) but the mustang never even came close to 140.
never said she was stock. :devil
did you ever see a stock mustang run 12.20's? i did some things to her.......they're listed in another thread here i think.
almost forgot.....98 trans am....didn't that have the corvette motor in it? or was it the standard 350? or the buick turbo v6?
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I found a miata in the bulletion board. I am calling up tomorrow and asking if they will trade for it.
I dont care If it requires some work, because that could be experience under my belt. I am mechanically enclined, so fixing a car would not be a problem for me.
But any how I am hoping they will trade for it and will go and look at it and test drive it maybe.
Arian
Understand, this is NOT an easy car to "work on." There is little to no room regardless of what work you want to do to it. This is the biggest problem with Miata's.
If you are dead set on getting a Miata, I strongly suggest you replace the clutch disc, pressure plate, throwout bearing and pilot bearing at the same time. It will be an all day job. Bolts will be frozen, cramped work area, etc. If you know someone with good Pneumatic tools, drive it to their house first and spray the f**k out of it with PB Blaster for two days prior. I helped a buddy do this a few years back. It takes all day and is still not easy on a lift.
People shouldn't be shocked at the "chick car" jokes. It is all they are, jokes. I may have joked, but I know quite a bit of info on the Miata.
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Not to mention it would understeer like a mother.
Not exactly. It would add weight using the 5.0 Ford in the neighborhood of 100 lbs on the front end. Not insignificant but hardly crippling. The T5 trans and 8.8" rear would add more but also shift the weight more to the rear. With the 5.0/T-5/8.8 swap, the weight distribution ends up at 53/47 front to rear. With the aluminum Chevy V8, it would be even better. Unless you decided on adding a centrifugal blower to the mix. If your willing to "alter" the rear floorpan, you could get a custom built remote mount turbo from STS and lay down strips of fire like in Back To The Future. :devil
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Understand, this is NOT an easy car to "work on." There is little to no room regardless of what work you want to do to it. This is the biggest problem with Miata's.
If you are dead set on getting a Miata, I strongly suggest you replace the clutch disc, pressure plate, throwout bearing and pilot bearing at the same time. It will be an all day job. Bolts will be frozen, cramped work area, etc. If you know someone with good Pneumatic tools, drive it to their house first and spray the f**k out of it with PB Blaster for two days prior. I helped a buddy do this a few years back. It takes all day and is still not easy on a lift.
People shouldn't be shocked at the "chick car" jokes. It is all they are, jokes. I may have joked, but I know quite a bit of info on the Miata.
forget pb blaster.
freeze off. napa sells it. i don't use anything else to break loose stubborn nuts or bolts now. it's never let me down.
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forget pb blaster.
freeze off. napa sells it. i don't use anything else to break loose stubborn nuts or bolts now. it's never let me down.
Regardless, "spray the f**k out of it" are the words to be remembered here. :rock
Now you're forcing me to piss of my wife and go buy this stuff to see how it is. :devil
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Not exactly. It would add weight using the 5.0 Ford in the neighborhood of 100 lbs on the front end. Not insignificant but hardly crippling. The T5 trans and 8.8" rear would add more but also shift the weight more to the rear. With the 5.0/T-5/8.8 swap, the weight distribution ends up at 53/47 front to rear. With the aluminum Chevy V8, it would be even better. Unless you decided on adding a centrifugal blower to the mix. If your willing to "alter" the rear floorpan, you could get a custom built remote mount turbo from STS and lay down strips of fire like in Back To The Future. :devil
That's not bad. I'd expected a lot more than 100lbs increase. Reminded me of the guys who used to shoehorn Prelude H22's into CRX's. Had to carry $200 worth of groceries in the back just so the rear tires would touch the ground. :lol
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Regardless, "spray the f**k out of it" are the words to be remembered here. :rock
Now you're forcing me to piss of my wife and go buy this stuff to see how it is. :devil
lolol.......sorry dude....... :devil
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That's not bad. I'd expected a lot more than 100lbs increase. Reminded me of the guys who used to shoehorn Prelude H22's into CRX's. Had to carry $200 worth of groceries in the back just so the rear tires would touch the ground. :lol
The site I referenced earlier in this thread makes a tubular k-member which shaves 10 lbs off the front (They also make a version without motor mounts, so you can drop in any engine you want). If you went with aluminum coil-overs, tubular control arms and aftermarket brakes, you could save even more weight. The turbo 4 route is an option, if that's your bag. One of those JDM-spec EVO motors and a monster turbo would work pretty well. I like the idea of the Subaru flat 4, but it may be even wider than a V8.
The first V8 Miata I saw was in the very late '90s. You could see the long tube headers and big oil pan underneath. He was going for the Japanese "Shelby Cobra" look. Blue with white stripes, Halibrands and even the dual fans in the grill. It looked and sounded wicked and ever since, I have been thinking of building one.
Of course it won't be cheap when all is said and done. But it will be scary fast and I won't have to wear a hat and dark glasses when driving it in public. If you wanted to do it on the cheap, you probably could build it for less than a brand new one.
As for the OP, it seems unlikely that the typical Miata owner would be interested in an assault rifle. But I wish you luck.
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never said she was stock. :devil
did you ever see a stock mustang run 12.20's? i did some things to her.......they're listed in another thread here i think.
almost forgot.....98 trans am....didn't that have the corvette motor in it? or was it the standard 350? or the buick turbo v6?
The 1998 was the first year the f-body got the aluminum vette LS1. Rated at 305hp but most guys are getting 300ish at the wheels, so it's actually putting out more like 340. Mine has 136000 miles and still pulls great, doesn't burn a drop of oil either.
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Sports Car International says the miata is the 10th best sports car of all time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Car_International_Top_Sports_Cars), and so the no 1 of the "affordable" ones I might say.
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Teh mazda miata listed with ferrari's and Porsche's, WTF is this ???????????
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It's an opinion poll of a magazine's editors. Take a break from posting emoticons and use your brain for a second, genius.
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It's an opinion poll of a magazine's editors. Take a break from posting emoticons and use your brain for a second, genius.
:rofl
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But 150 in a stock 1989 mustang... nonsense. A stang of that era would need somewhere around 300hp to touch 150.
Here's the first paragraph from a Car & Driver test.
The perennial Ford-Chevy battle continues with a 225-bhp GT vs a 220-bhp IROC-Z
The black Camaro was a distant speck as it came off the wall-of-death banking at Ohio's Transportation Research Center. Its size grew with the approaching whoosh of air; this wasn't a car driving past so much as an aircraft buzzing our small group. The whoosh became WHOOSH as the Camaro approached as fast as something in Col Kadafi's worst nightmare, then disappeared. Only the timing lights in front of us could testify that the Camaro was ever there, its appearance was so brief. The result: 149.20 mph. Only a few minutes before, the 1987 Mustang GT had recorded 148.10 mph. The musclecars have grown up.
/hijack
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back in the 70,s my brother inlaw forced a 351 into a mazda rx-3 (this was for drag racing purposes ) That thing was really fast although there is too much water under the bridge to remember any times.
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Back to the OP, I have the Jap version, a '94 limited edition (500) imported into the UK, lowered RSR springs, adjustable GAB shocks. Cheapo top down motoring, great fun. :salute
(http://roadster-register.com/garage/garage.php?mode=view_gallery_item&type=garage_mod&image_id=1579)
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Miata a womans car?..Hardly.It's an enthusiast's car,a true sports car that handles a race track with little or no modification.
I would rather save some and buy an Elise(Lotus) though.
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Here's the first paragraph from a Car & Driver test.
The perennial Ford-Chevy battle continues with a 225-bhp GT vs a 220-bhp IROC-Z
The black Camaro was a distant speck as it came off the wall-of-death banking at Ohio's Transportation Research Center. Its size grew with the approaching whoosh of air; this wasn't a car driving past so much as an aircraft buzzing our small group. The whoosh became WHOOSH as the Camaro approached as fast as something in Col Kadafi's worst nightmare, then disappeared. Only the timing lights in front of us could testify that the Camaro was ever there, its appearance was so brief. The result: 149.20 mph. Only a few minutes before, the 1987 Mustang GT had recorded 148.10 mph. The musclecars have grown up.
/hijack
and let us not forget.......ford did that with a 5.0L, whilst the iroc used a 5.7L.
anyone remember what iroc stood for? :noid
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Miata a womans car?..Hardly.It's an enthusiast's car,a true sports car that handles a race track with little or no modification.
I would rather save some and buy an Elise(Lotus) though.
see....the problem here, is that the majority of those that are critisizing the miata have never driven on.
i had that customer with the turbocharged one......i had a friend that had a stock one. these things handle like slot cars. the engines pull right up to 6500rpm, easily. the trannys shift smooth as glass. they stop excellent. to buy a used one is cheap now......what more could one ask for?
that said, i still won't give up my v8's. :aok
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The perennial Ford-Chevy battle continues with a 225-bhp GT vs a 220-bhp IROC-Z
225bhp from 5.0l :rofl
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and let us not forget.......ford did that with a 5.0L, whilst the iroc used a 5.7L.
anyone remember what iroc stood for? :noid
International Race of Champions.
IIRC, one of those rags tested a Vette and a Mustang GT around 89 or 90 and the Vette lost.
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225bhp from 5.0l :rofl
better than 220 from a 5.7, eh? :rofl
remember........todays mustang...........5.4L shelbyized 600+ hp :aok
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225bhp from 5.0l :rofl
They had to rebuild their engine programs after the OPEC crisis. Also, they had to test the consumers to find out if wasting R & D in Engine Development was worth it. Then someone named John Plant in 1993 started SVT.
Let it be known, Ford never truly appreciated what they had with Cosworth. They tried a few times, but just never allowed Cosworth to do the engine designs themselves.
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International Race of Champions.
IIRC, one of those rags tested a Vette and a Mustang GT around 89 or 90 and the Vette lost.
i cant see a vette losing to a mustang OR a camaro......but then the car and driver, road and track testers suck.
i was leaning towards a non-pc meaning for iroc......but i'm a little afraid to put it here........ :noid
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i cant see a vette losing to a mustang OR a camaro......but then the car and driver, road and track testers suck.
i was leaning towards a non-pc meaning for iroc......but i'm a little afraid to put it here........ :noid
Me either, the next test they did, the higher DISPLACEMENT Vette, won.
Oh, you mean "Italian..............."? :D
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and let us not forget.......ford did that with a 5.0L, whilst the iroc used a 5.7L.
anyone remember what iroc stood for? :noid
Depending on what year this article is from. Chevy put the 305 / 5.0 in the IROC until 86 or 87.
If I were going for a small displacement sport car I'd go for one of these. Beats the Miata in every aspect.
(http://www.carbodydesign.com/concept-cars/2005/10-27-pontiac-solstice-weekend-club-racer/2006%20Pontiac%20Solstice.jpg)
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Me either, the next test they did, the higher DISPLACEMENT Vette, won.
Oh, you mean "Italian..............."? :D
:rofl :rofl
yeppers.....
italian ****** out cruising. :D
funny thing was, that most of them i saw around here....were the "vinnie barberio" types. :rofl
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:rofl :rofl
yeppers.....
italian ****** out cruising. :D
funny thing was, that most of them i saw around here....were the "vinnie barberio" types. :rofl
Same here in Metro Detroit. My buddy that had the Omni GLH-S drag raced an IROC-Z for "slips". The IROC-Z lost (it wasn't even close) and my buddy "gimme all the cash on you." He made $1,200 for that race. :devil
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Same here in Metro Detroit. My buddy that had the Omni GLH-S drag raced an IROC-Z for "slips". The IROC-Z lost (it wasn't even close) and my buddy "gimme all the cash on you." He made $1,200 for that race. :devil
nice................
that;s why i NEVER race for slips. i tend to race for fun..........way back when i used to run on front street, i let my girlfriend drive..........ooooooooooo... .that dude was PISSED!!
he didn't like losing to a girl. :rofl if i recall, it was a 440 charger.........but i'm not sure, as it was over 20 years ago.
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Depending on what year this article is from. Chevy put the 305 / 5.0 in the IROC until 86 or 87.
Actually they put the 305 in IROC-Z/Z-28 cars until the end of the 3rd gens in 1992, but in 1987 the L98 350 was added to the lineup and that's what was tested in the article.
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Depending on what year this article is from. Chevy put the 305 / 5.0 in the IROC until 86 or 87.
If I were going for a small displacement sport car I'd go for one of these. Beats the Miata in every aspect.
(http://www.carbodydesign.com/concept-cars/2005/10-27-pontiac-solstice-weekend-club-racer/2006%20Pontiac%20Solstice.jpg)
They had to turbocharge that thing just to make 20 more horsepower than the 240 hp my S2K gets with the same displacement normally-aspirated.
Very impressive. :rolleyes:
If you're really serious about a small car that can trounce the big boys:
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/714/ccherofront1024x768smal.jpg) (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccherofront1024x768smal.jpg)
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Depending on what year this article is from. Chevy put the 305 / 5.0 in the IROC until 86 or 87.
If I were going for a small displacement sport car I'd go for one of these. Beats the Miata in every aspect.
(http://www.carbodydesign.com/concept-cars/2005/10-27-pontiac-solstice-weekend-club-racer/2006%20Pontiac%20Solstice.jpg)
Sorry I will not be getting a Pontiac Solstice, it is the same car as the Saturn Sky. Except for some diferent exterior looks.
I just simply dont like ether one of those. I think I will stick with trying to get a miata.
Arian
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They had to turbocharge that thing just to make 20 more horsepower than the 240 hp my S2K gets with the same displacement normally-aspirated.
Very impressive. :rolleyes:
If you're really serious about a small car that can trounce the big boys:
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/714/ccherofront1024x768smal.jpg) (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccherofront1024x768smal.jpg)
Looks like the Exige 240S if I'm not mistaken. Awesome car. Horrible color.
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I like the yellow - anything that extreme deserves a "look at me" colour :D
did S1 elises make it to the US? they are a real bargain over here at the moment :aok and a more viable alternative than the big V8 dragsters mentioned. if your considering an mx5 your probably more interested in corners than the straight bits between them...
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Looks like the Exige 240S if I'm not mistaken. Awesome car. Horrible color.
Yeah, they're incredible. Buddy of mine has one. As far as the colors go, Lotus has chosen for some reason to paint them all to look like fishing lures. :)
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I like the yellow - anything that extreme deserves a "look at me" colour :D
did S1 elises make it to the US? they are a real bargain over here at the moment :aok and a more viable alternative than the big V8 dragsters mentioned. if your considering an mx5 your probably more interested in corners than the straight bits between them...
i'll take my "big" dragsters anyday over a lotus. i've never seen a lotus on the road here in the us that looked like anything more than a kit car. to be honest, the "dragsters" can be made to handle very well, contrary to popular belief. if chevy keeps up with their norm, the camaro will already handle very well.
how much does that one pictured cost over there?
my opinion of european cars is going down the pooper VERY fast. have an A4 in the shop.....it needs a thermostat. you have to buy the entire housing. it takes 3 hours to replace.
i have a 99 beetle. it overheated because the geniuses over there put a plastic impeller on a knurled steel shaft on the waterpump. the overheat warped the cylinder head. it also melted the plastic oil deflector inside the valvecover, and the plastic windage tray. oo yea......and despite a 5 mile test drive that went perfectly, the car came back with no oil pressure. come to find out from my local vw dealer, that that is common. it seems that the melted plastic finds its way to the oil pump pickup screen.
a friend has a bmw740il. needed a surge tank. it's a common thing to break on them.
you guys can keep that poop. i'll stick to my ford/chevy/dodge v8's. :aok
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hmmm about £40,000 new with the usual options, expensive but not for a race car that you can use on the road. I was going to say theres not much faster round a track, but not if the track is 1/4 mile long and straight, or an oval. I guess it all depends on the roads and driving style, I'm not aware of a US car which is useable on typical UK roads, let alone competitive or fun on a B road.
My point was that someone looking at an mx5 isnt really interested in straight line speed or ultimate grip levels, its the more tactile stuff which will entertain at lower speeds. given similar design and quality, something weighing 2 tonnes wont ever corner, brake or communicate as well as a car weighing 1 tonne.
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hmmm about £40,000 new with the usual options, expensive but not for a race car that you can use on the road. I was going to say theres not much faster round a track, but not if the track is 1/4 mile long and straight, or an oval. I guess it all depends on the roads and driving style, I'm not aware of a US car which is useable on typical UK roads, let alone competitive or fun on a B road.
My point was that someone looking at an mx5 isnt really interested in straight line speed or ultimate grip levels, its the more tactile stuff which will entertain at lower speeds. given similar design and quality, something weighing 2 tonnes wont ever corner, brake or communicate as well as a car weighing 1 tonne.
understood about the cornering.
i'd take the miata over anything british......'cept a triumph with a v8 conversion. :D
some of the british stuff might be better looking, but (and i HATE to say this) you cannot beat the japanese for reliability. combine that with the fun factor, and you have a winner.
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yeah its a shame we dont build proper mgs any more, when several japanese companies do :(
as for reliability, well things are alot better than they were but Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious still applies ;)
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even VW has worked out that its a good market to get into, I really like the look of this (will be great with the 2.0 Gti engine):
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/233454/vw_bluesport_roadster.html (http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/233454/vw_bluesport_roadster.html)
(http://www.motorauthority.com/content/thumbs/2/0/2009_volkswagen_bluesport_roadster_concept_main630-0110-630x360.jpg)
almost a 1/2 price boxster :aok
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even VW has worked out that its a good market to get into, I really like the look of this (will be great with the 2.0 Gti engine):
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/233454/vw_bluesport_roadster.html (http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/233454/vw_bluesport_roadster.html)
(http://www.motorauthority.com/content/thumbs/2/0/2009_volkswagen_bluesport_roadster_concept_main630-0110-630x360.jpg)
almost a 1/2 price boxster :aok
ya, but the 2.0L engine has that stupid plastic-impellered waterpump......
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understood about the cornering.
i'd take the miata over anything british......'cept a triumph with a v8 conversion. :D
some of the british stuff might be better looking, but (and i HATE to say this) you cannot beat the japanese for reliability. combine that with the fun factor, and you have a winner.
What's that CAP? :D I'd have to agree, but it hasn't always been that way. I had a '78 280Z that saw two engine rebuilds and several starters & alternators by 160K miles. My '91 CRX on the other hand: 260K+ miles with numerous excursions past redline. ;) No engine work, compression is fine, original starter, original alternator. Thing is practically indestructible.
I like the yellow - anything that extreme deserves a "look at me" colour :D
did S1 elises make it to the US? they are a real bargain over here at the moment :aok and a more viable alternative than the big V8 dragsters mentioned. if your considering an mx5 your probably more interested in corners than the straight bits between them...
Hey RTHolmes, do you like this color?
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8501/lotusevora.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lotusevora.jpg)
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yup i like that :aok
thats set to be a very sweet car, although its 100bhp less, and £15k more than we were hoping for :(
edit: btw I am fairly colourblind :D
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i'll take my "big" dragsters anyday over a lotus. i've never seen a lotus on the road here in the us that looked like anything more than a kit car. to be honest, the "dragsters" can be made to handle very well, contrary to popular belief. if chevy keeps up with their norm, the camaro will already handle very well.
how much does that one pictured cost over there?
my opinion of european cars is going down the pooper VERY fast. have an A4 in the shop.....it needs a thermostat. you have to buy the entire housing. it takes 3 hours to replace.
i have a 99 beetle. it overheated because the geniuses over there put a plastic impeller on a knurled steel shaft on the waterpump. the overheat warped the cylinder head. it also melted the plastic oil deflector inside the valvecover, and the plastic windage tray. oo yea......and despite a 5 mile test drive that went perfectly, the car came back with no oil pressure. come to find out from my local vw dealer, that that is common. it seems that the melted plastic finds its way to the oil pump pickup screen.
a friend has a bmw740il. needed a surge tank. it's a common thing to break on them.
you guys can keep that poop. i'll stick to my ford/chevy/dodge v8's. :aok
I work at a VW/Audi garage, the thermostat really does take 3 hours to replace. You should see how much of a pain in the arse it is to do it too.
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I work at a VW/Audi garage, the thermostat really does take 3 hours to replace. You should see how much of a pain in the arse it is to do it too.
ooooo..i wish you hadn't told me that......that a4 is my next car in the bay.
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Not all v8 dragsters are big. :aok
http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o111/65gasser/?action=view¤t=bpa960incar.flv :O
One of my favorite vids of all time. Its a notchback fox body, probably only around 600hp. 9.60 at 138. One hell of a ride.
Little off topic but I can't resist.
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Not all v8 dragsters are big. :aok
http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o111/65gasser/?action=view¤t=bpa960incar.flv :O
One of my favorite vids of all time. Its a notchback fox body, probably only around 600hp. 9.60 at 138. One hell of a ride.
Little off topic but I can't resist.
this whole thread has ben pinging on and off topic.......
when it comes down to it........the miata will be a fun car. don;t worry about what anyone says. if they're bustin your stones, it's because they're jealous.
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Not all v8 dragsters are big. :aok
http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o111/65gasser/?action=view¤t=bpa960incar.flv :O
One of my favorite vids of all time. Its a notchback fox body, probably only around 600hp. 9.60 at 138. One hell of a ride.
Little off topic but I can't resist.
that just sent chills down my spine.........quickest i ever went so far was 9.96@131....but i did it on all motor in the shop car.
dammmmm.....i gotta get back on the track!!!
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it may be a chick car but it's still cool. and u can make them really fast
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If I were going for a small displacement sport car I'd go for one of these. Beats the Miata in every aspect.
(http://www.carbodydesign.com/concept-cars/2005/10-27-pontiac-solstice-weekend-club-racer/2006%20Pontiac%20Solstice.jpg)
Too bad none of the car magazines thought so. You need to spend nearly 30k for the Solstice GXP turbo to beat the Miata, and it still lacks a usable trunk, has a truly lousy top and the build quality is inferior. Not to mention that the Miata has a more balanced and sorted chassis as well as a super-slick 6 speed.
As to those guys who refer to the Miata as a lady's car... LOLOL Trust me, very few "real men" could drive the Miata to its limits. It's owned its class in SCCA racing since it first arrived. It has been a perennial member of Car and Drivers Ten Best since 1989.
(http://images.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/images/vehicles/gallery/MX5/pho_gallery_MX5_ext10.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
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it may be a chick car but it's still cool. and u can make them really fast
Heck I can get a '94 Honda Accord to go "really fast". Now it almost takes the entire road to get it to 115, but it still gets there. Miata goes more than fast, it goes fast quickly. :D
Fun car to drive fast is a Scion TC though, until you hit 120, then it feels like you are attempting flight.
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Too bad none of the car magazines thought so. You need to spend nearly 30k for the Solstice GXP turbo to beat the Miata, and it still lacks a usable trunk, has a truly lousy top and the build quality is inferior. Not to mention that the Miata has a more balanced and sorted chassis as well as a super-slick 6 speed.
As to those guys who refer to the Miata as a lady's car... LOLOL Trust me, very few "real men" could drive the Miata to its limits. It's owned its class in SCCA racing since it first arrived. It has been a perennial member of Car and Drivers Ten Best since 1989.
(http://images.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/images/vehicles/gallery/MX5/pho_gallery_MX5_ext10.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
A family friend bought a new BMW 328i X-drive and was wondering "where he could go to stretch it's legs." I took him to an abandoned parking lot devoid of any obstructions and told him to "go for it." He wouldn't ride on the brink of drifting, although he hinted at it. I asked him if I could "give it a whirl". I had him wondering what else the car was capable of. I even cleaned the rubber off of his wheels. :devil
I went to Camp Jeep and was drifting in the provided Grand Cherokee SRT at "Road America", as was my buddy. The chap in the pace car said "we'll be going about 80mph around this course." I drifted around every corner with my wife laughing her arse in disbelief. The last straightaway to the finish line, I laid up and left a good gap to the pace car. I punched it to 135mph. The guy walked up and simply said "That was some good f**king driving!"
If I could drive for a living, I'd do it, but I'm not 5'3, 130. :salute Nothing compares to the smell of baked rubber from tires, nothing.
Again WW, I've been in the Miatas before and they just leave you "missing something". I've yet to be able to get behind the wheel of a Mazdaspeed Miata though. But, those border on $29,000.
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A family friend bought a new BMW 328i X-drive and was wondering "where he could go to stretch it's legs." I took him to an abandoned parking lot devoid of any obstructions and told him to "go for it." He wouldn't ride on the brink of drifting, although he hinted at it. I asked him if I could "give it a whirl". I had him wondering what else the car was capable of. I even cleaned the rubber off of his wheels. :devil
I went to Camp Jeep and was drifting in the provided Grand Cherokee SRT at "Road America", as was my buddy. The chap in the pace car said "we'll be going about 80mph around this course." I drifted around every corner with my wife laughing her arse in disbelief. The last straightaway to the finish line, I laid up and left a good gap to the pace car. I punched it to 135mph. The guy walked up and simply said "That was some good f**king driving!"
If I could drive for a living, I'd do it, but I'm not 5'3, 130. :salute Nothing compares to the smell of baked rubber from tires, nothing.
Again WW, I've been in the Miatas before and they just leave you "missing something". I've yet to be able to get behind the wheel of a Mazdaspeed Miata though. But, those border on $29,000.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Personally I prefer the scalpel to the sledgehammer. A truly fast car should be able to do so without all the drama. Or the noise, gas usage, or tire wear for that matter. The Miata is a scalpel. It's practically the reincarnation of the old Lotus Elan. (though I'd take Emma Peel behind the wheel over WW anyday :aok) :salute
Oh, and for the record, Miata's are quick, but the third-generation RX-7 was hands-down the fastest, scariest Mazda ever.
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I always liked the RX-7's.
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I always liked the RX-7's.
With the low seating position, the 3rd-gen always felt like I was sitting in a coffin with the lid "almost" closed. :uhoh
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With the low seating position, the 3rd-gen always felt like I was sitting in a coffin with the lid "almost" closed. :uhoh
:noid
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here;s a question?
what about the Z3?
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here;s a question?
what about the Z3?
Good car. Fast. And the M Roadster is a complete monster.
(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1960/mroadster.jpg) (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mroadster.jpg)
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The Dinan's are nice too.
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The Dinan's are nice too.
Yeah, the weakest part of the stock roadsters has got to be the rear suspension. The Dinan rear end makes a world of difference.
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Good car. Fast. And the M Roadster is a complete monster.
(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1960/mroadster.jpg) (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mroadster.jpg)
that's what i was thinking.....a buddy bought an 04.....5 spd 6 cylinder. the thing turns like it's glued to the road. it's a frakkin bullet going straight.
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that's what i was thinking.....a buddy bought an 04.....5 spd 6 cylinder. the thing turns like it's glued to the road. it's a frakkin bullet going straight.
The 2001 M Roadsters had 315hp. That's freakin' insane. :O
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We drove a 1992 Miata more than 10 years. Absolute delight. Unsurpassed responsiveness. But then the world turned to SUVs and we got tired of looking up at other vehicles' undercarriages. Sold the Miata to good friend and she's loving it. It probably will last long into classic car license plates.