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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SEraider on July 06, 2009, 10:44:30 AM
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Scenario:
$5 for qualification phase.
$20 for the final 32 in the tournament.
In the tourney, 8 groups of 4 players round robin. Best 2-3 duals.
Best 2 advance.
Final 16 in knock-out stages, best 2-3
Championship round, best 3-5
Total $640
1st place $400
2nd place $240
I am saving the details for later if the community likes this idea but this would be sanctioned by HiTech. This would bring back old-sticks that are very good and give motivation for them to play again.
thoughts???
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Make it for free... Perhaps have someone donate a plaque or such to the winner, like in KoTH TOC.
Offering cash prizes will make this a less friendly event participated in for all the wrong reasons...
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Make it for free... Perhaps have someone donate a plaque or such to the winner, like in KoTH TOC.
Offering cash prizes will make this a less friendly event participated in for all the wrong reasons...
I agree.
Love the idea, and would love to participate. :aok :aok
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Offering cash prizes will make this a less friendly event participated in for all the wrong reasons...
Could not agree more.
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We need a 1 v 1 tourney badly. It's the one special event we don't have.
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I'd absolutely love a 1v1 tournament, but I don't think I agree with the cash aspect either.
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I like it. But I, too, have a feeling cash prizes would do more harm than good
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I'll hold the money, lmk when we start :D
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Hey, where'd BMathis go????
:rofl
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* mathis drunk voice
ANOTHer rOUND FOR EVERyBoddddy
sounds like a great idea ;)
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Why is the cash a bad idea??
It means an incentive for everybody to come out. If it is just the "spirit" of the game, not all stick are going to show up. In terms of bad gamesmenship, that's why there is film right?
I'll be there though. I got my $5 to qualify. :)
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With a cash prize type tournement, u get all the bad karma that comes with it. This person cheats because he warped, I want my money back. Somethings like this along with alot of other things will go wrong with it. That is why it should be free, No harm, no foul, who cares type event.
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A prize would be cool if HTC wanted to get involved and make it a bracketed tournament. Whether that be a plaque or a free month or something along those lines. Nobody should have to put up extra money though to do it. But I agree, a 1v1 dueling event is needed!
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asking for trouble
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I feel the cash is a bad idea as well. But, if you must put money up front I would suggest every sortie be filmed. This way no one can scream warp,cable puller,stick stirring and the like. The only goofy thing you can get away with is if the person disco's. That happens alot anymore with me and I imagine others as well.
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I dont like the cash aspesct of it. The reward s that you have bragging right over everyone.
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<---never mixes business with pleasure.
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But, if you must put money up front I would suggest every sortie be filmed.
Exactly.....There should be a 3 panel judge system for this.
But then again, if the consensus says no cash.........no cash. But i still feel like some of the best players would still not show because of it.
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Exactly.....There should be a 3 panel judge system for this.
AcesHigh's got Talent?
(http://media.americanidol.com/judges_host/avatars/simon_182x249.jpg)
batfink: heres this move ive been working on for a while now it goes like this...
simon cowell: BEEEP! rubbish, get him off. next.
:(
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AcesHigh's got Talent?
(http://media.americanidol.com/judges_host/avatars/simon_182x249.jpg)
batfink: heres this move ive been working on for a while now it goes like this...
simon cowell: BEEEP! rubbish, get him off. next.
:(
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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Why would the best sticks not show?
I think it would be cool to watch from the air.
No BS, no screaming foul. Just the best against the best :aok
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Why would the best sticks not show?
I think it would be cool to watch from the air.
No BS, no screaming foul. Just the best against the best :aok
That's what KOTH is. No need to get cash involved. It'll just go bad quick.
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We used to have sanctioned 2vs2 comeptitions in WBs that I always thought were alot more fun than 1v1s tended to be. Fostering teamwork and working with Pairs, as was more traditional tactics of the era.
Maybe something to consider if someone was looking for a job.
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Why would the best sticks not show?
I know several sticks that skill levels exceeded the challenge of the game and thus, no longer participates often or at all. That is sad to me. Especially those I looked up to for knowledge and as an understudy.
So if its for free, well, I just dont think they be interested as much and might not entice them to come back. In terms of pure competition, they been there-done that.
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I'd love to participate in a 1 vs 1 bracketed tourney but sorry... not going to pay to do it.
The last time I tried to participate in a dueling ladder the first person never responded and the next one took almost two weeks. By that time I had quit.
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I found mathis.........and our money(http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt86/splittiebus66/bong.jpg)
:x
anyway honestly I think we are responsible enough to do it either way. Now we need HTCs input. Skuzzy, Pyro, HTC where you at?
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LMAO, that's not me for another 50 years! :rofl Nice Billy
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I found mathis.........and our money(http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt86/splittiebus66/bong.jpg)
:x
anyway honestly I think we are responsible enough to do it either way. Now we need HTCs input. Skuzzy, Pyro, HTC where you at?
I thought that was Michael Phelps...
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Offering cash prizes will make this a less friendly event participated in for all the wrong reasons...
Yup. +1
I know several sticks that skill levels exceeded the challenge of the game and thus, no longer participates often or at all
Pure hogwash. Go ahead and name several sticks who no longer play because they got too good for the game.
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I logged out last nite cause I was just too damned talented :D
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Pure hogwash. Go ahead and name several sticks who no longer play because they got too good for the game.
I can't speak for any of them, but I could think of a several good sticks who don't bother anywhere near as much (if ever) with this game, and it seems like at least part of that reason is, indeed, that they've gotten too good to find what the MA has to offer "fun."
Still, I think they'd be much more likely to come back for the prospect of the 1v1 tournament in itself than for just some cash prize.
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Like I said.... hogwash.
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That's what KOTH is. No need to get cash involved. It'll just go bad quick.
Not really uptown. Koth is a giant free for all where a lot of ganging and timid flying occurs. Granted the cream will rise to the top, but a 1v1 bracketed tournament/monthly event and KOTH would be entirely different.
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thoughts???
Sign me up.
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No money. More often than annual. :aok
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Well all this talk... how about someone just take the initiative to get this organized.
Get everyone interested to sign up. Ask the bracket challengers to arrange a time between them during that week. If someone can't make it the other wins by default and advances.
Meet in the DA on the agreed day/time and dual your next opponent. Best of 3. Filmed duals. PM results to whoever is keeping the bracket. They post results with next match-ups and on to the next week.
Not sure who will get to pick the first plane but after that winners choice?
I'm in.
You're all welcome to change this if you'de like. Lets just get started.
[EDIT] I just had an idea. I could create a small random number generator that could be used to randomly assign first planes for each series of duals.
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it's funny i've been doing concentrated one on one fights at least half my overall time in aceshigh but most of the people here i meet in-game wont go to the da for some dueling...ever. If you want to fight, we can even post results if its the kudos incentive for most in this thread. Next time someone ask on 200 for some duels take them up on it, whoever they are. The complaints center around bad gameplay and poor player ethics. So when someone offers you what you want why do so many of you in the Ma and this thread decline the invitation?
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HTC is an LLC I believe. They would not allow a cash prize, sorry.
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Like I said.... hogwash.
Urchin still on your squad forum? Why don't you talk to him about how he likes the game.
How about Nomak? I seem to recall a long post of his a few years ago saying, in essence, he'd accomplished all he could.
Not that I'm even close to being one of the best sticks, but I also end up playing for about three weeks, getting bored, and quitting for three months. It's been going on for some time.
Absolutely not hogwash.
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the secret is seeing how bad you can be whilst still having fun....never gets old.
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the secret is seeing how bad you can be whilst still having fun....never gets old.
Actually, the secret is getting you and several others into the DA for a few hours, but my life decisions aren't allowing that at the moment.
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it's funny i've been doing concentrated one on one fights at least half my overall time in aceshigh but most of the people here i meet in-game wont go to the da for some dueling...ever. If you want to fight, we can even post results if its the kudos incentive for most in this thread. Next time someone ask on 200 for some duels take them up on it, whoever they are. The complaints center around bad gameplay and poor player ethics. So when someone offers you what you want why do so many of you in the Ma and this thread decline the invitation?
I've gone whenever challenged; usually after a little heated 200 exchange. I've had fun every time. Unfortunately those a few and far between.
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I've gone whenever challenged; usually after a little heated 200 exchange. I've had fun every time. Unfortunately those a few and far between.
I can't tell you how many people I've befriended because of heading into the DA after a 200/PM exchange. I'm starting to consider HOing everything in sight just to get some more appointments :D
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Bald, you should log into the DA more often if a good 1 on 1 is what you really are after at the time. Just ask on open channel there is usualy someone who wants to fight.
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the secret is seeing how bad you can be whilst still having fun....never gets old.
Or how many times you can blame your monitor settings. :D
Glad it got fixed though, just messin with ya bro.
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Like I said.... hogwash.
Steve, I know of 6 guys I regulary dualed on a 2-3x a week basis that openly told me that it is no more a challenge to them. Believe me, they were great sticks. The guys I dual now dont measure up to them in there hayday. I seen a couple post there feelings on a different website.
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If you want me to be cold blooded and own you like bighorn would, instead of taking a minute to fly around each other in circles first, lemme know raider. Or maybe you didn't mean me by 'people you duel now'. I have not been on much. :t
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When do we want to do this? No money, maybe even just for bragging rights.
I vote for September, when all the squeekers are off to school, and all the good people are playing once again.
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No money. More often than annual. :aok
Tell the CM team :) I used to CM a weekend of (3) bracket tornaments once a month in Air Warrior. Each tornament would be a pre-announced plane model. We also did some 2v2 tornaments once in awhile.
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If you want me to be cold blooded and own you like bighorn would, instead of taking a minute to fly around each other in circles first, lemme know raider. Or maybe you didn't mean me by 'people you duel now'. I have not been on much. :t
hey, I'm up for a good challenge. I don't remember dueling you anyways so why would I refer to you? I accept your challenge. I am available tomorrow or thursday and I'm pacific time. :cool:
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Steve, I know of 6 guys I regulary dualed on a 2-3x a week basis that openly told me that it is no more a challenge to them. Believe me, they were great sticks. The guys I dual now dont measure up to them in there hayday. I seen a couple post there feelings on a different website.
really? who?
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Sort of hijack/sort of just tossing names out. I've always been interested in finding some film of Drex, Leviathan, Bighorn, and Creton. Those are the big names of the past that I've heard were "untouchable". I actually had the pleasure of working with Bighorn for 30 minutes or so when I was very new. Was aw struck by his ability.
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really? who?
I'm not big into publishing names on BBS, but hit me up online and I'll tell you.
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I'm not big into publishing names on BBS, but hit me up online and I'll tell you.
Lol puhlease. Shenanigans
I believe you may have dueled guys that had become bored with the MA but I've been around a while and have yet to run into anyone who was so skilled that they would go unchallenged in the MA. If anyone said that, they had very high, and very misplaced opinions of themselves.
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Steve some guys have lower standards of excellence (excellence enough to get bored and quit). And it's prolly hard to dissociate boredom with being unchallenged and boredom with AH being only a game. I do know that for a while back in .. 02 or so, I'd come to realize that every sortie I made, I stopped expecting any real defeats. Any single con I'd run into was going to die.
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I was considering retirement because we all know I'm so damn good. :confused:
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Lol puhlease. Shenanigans
I believe you may have dueled guys that had become bored with the MA but I've been around a while and have yet to run into anyone who was so skilled that they would go unchallenged in the MA. If anyone said that, they had very high, and very misplaced opinions of themselves.
Ouch....Not trying to piss anybody off here. Just telling you what I heard and seen. I'll let those that saw my earlier message speak for themselves. But think what you will.
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Ok, what about Levithian,bighorn, schotzi (spelling),fester, wilbuz.I've heard alot about these folks. I've encountered wilbuz and fester and know these guys are madmen behind the stick. Where are these folks now?
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Ok, what about (...) schotzi (spelling)
If you mean Schatzi; She didn't leave because game was no challenge anymore, but because of real life having a tight grip on her.
And I think she won't be angry about me when I say... she was quite far from being good enough that there was no challenge anymore. ;)
Another thing that comes to my mind: During the last few years, I have seen such a thread every once in a while. The lack of decent 1v1's, and the idea to get another event rolling. Often in the form of a dueling ladder. Sometimes It even gets rolling...just to die after a few weeks.
If there were so many vets that only left because they couldn't find any challenging fights anymore - would't it have been relatively easy for them to meet on a regular base to slug it out in a remote corner of the DA or even in the SEA?
This is a game, and any game can (and almost always will) get boring, no matter what you do.Takes more time for one than for the other. But even when having always an opponent that can give you a hard fight every time, it can get boring.
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Ouch....Not trying to piss anybody off here. Just telling you what I heard and seen. I'll let those that saw my earlier message speak for themselves. But think what you will.
Sorry raider, I'm not being clear about the shenanigans call. I'm calling shenanigans on anyone who told you they were no longer challenged in the game. I've flown against all of the past and current greats and not one of them was unbeatable. I never ran into anyone who could run the table in the MA.
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hey, I'm up for a good challenge. I don't remember dueling you anyways so why would I refer to you? I accept your challenge. I am available tomorrow or thursday and I'm pacific time. :cool:
(http://www.batfink.com/batfink.gif)
:huh
:D
:noid
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Sorry raider, I'm not being clear about the shenanigans call. I'm calling shenanigans on anyone who told you they were no longer challenged in the game. I've flown against all of the past and current greats and not one of them was unbeatable. I never ran into anyone who could run the table in the MA.
Anyone can be beaten by anyone, really. But I think it's a fair statement to claim that many vets have left or no longer fly as much because they have reached a point where the typical MA sortie no longer excites them...
The DA is a blast, but you've got to get everyone on at the same time, which is difficult to do for a sustained period due to real life and such.
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(http://www.batfink.com/batfink.gif)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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:rofl nice one Bat.
I'd be up for a 1 v 1 tournament, but i'd prefer it be free :D
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Sorry raider, I'm not being clear about the shenanigans call. I'm calling shenanigans on anyone who told you they were no longer challenged in the game. I've flown against all of the past and current greats and not one of them was unbeatable. I never ran into anyone who could run the table in the MA.
Roger, I hear ya. :salute
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(http://www.batfink.com/batfink.gif)
:huh
:D
:noid
LOL, I never knew you were batfinkv
:noid
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I have beaten and have been beaten by every person in this thread having started on equal terms. So take that. I thump my chest and your chest.
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1v1 is plain old fashiond dueling....just start a dueling ladder or something equally mundane.
Much better and more entertaining for everyone would be a 2v2 competition. I nominate YOU to pursue this idea.
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1v1 is plain old fashiond dueling....just start a dueling ladder or something equally mundane.
Much better and more entertaining for everyone would be a 2v2 competition. I nominate YOU to pursue this idea.
Any tournament ladder has to be free. It is impractical and possibly illegal to administer any cash prizes where there is an entry fee.
The details to be hashed out:
1. Schedule
2. Airframes and loadouts
3. Start positions
4. Rules of engagement.
My take? A quick start feature that puts two planes co-alt, at the same speed, nose on at 6.0k distance, restricted to staying within a dar circle. First one to die loses. One tournament/ladder for each fighter airframe.
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Any tournament ladder has to be free. It is impractical and possibly illegal to administer any cash prizes where there is an entry fee.
The details to be hashed out:
1. Schedule
2. Airframes and loadouts
3. Start positions
4. Rules of engagement.
Ok, here is the thing, someone else posted that it is a hastle to link up with others to do the tournament. You charge the sum, you LOSE it if your a no show and the other advances. Obviously, more details to make this happen. But this is why you have money involved.
Money involved raises competition and people won't flake or hold up the tourney. Unfortunately I'm in the minority with this thought. <dammit>
My take? A quick start feature that puts two planes co-alt, at the same speed, nose on at 6.0k distance, restricted to staying within a dar circle. First one to die loses. One tournament/ladder for each fighter airframe.
Excellent idea!!! +1
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Sort of hijack/sort of just tossing names out. I've always been interested in finding some film of Drex, Leviathan, Bighorn, and Creton. Those are the big names of the past that I've heard were "untouchable". I actually had the pleasure of working with Bighorn for 30 minutes or so when I was very new. Was aw struck by his ability.
Drex is off playing a fairy princess (i.e. human mage) to my knight in shining armor (i.e. human warrior tank) in World of Warcraft these days. We rarely if ever fly anymore, but I do my best to let him grab aggro on bosses and then taunt a second too late, if it's any consolation.
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Drex is off playing a fairy princess (i.e. human mage) to my knight in shining armor (i.e. human warrior tank) in World of Warcraft these days. We rarely if ever fly anymore, but I do my best to let him grab aggro on bosses and then taunt a second too late, if it's any consolation.
So that's Drex's WoW character in your avatar?
ack-ack
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So that's Drex's WoW character in your avatar?
That avatar is not nearly effeminate enough to reflect Drex's WoW character completely.
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Refer to BaldEagl's thread.
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Drex is off playing a fairy princess (i.e. human mage) to my knight in shining armor (i.e. human warrior tank) in World of Warcraft these days. We rarely if ever fly anymore, but I do my best to let him grab aggro on bosses and then taunt a second too late, if it's any consolation.
Tell Drex to L2DPS.
I use to play a Human Paladin, Alliance FTL, amirte ?
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32 man double elimination tournament (best 2 out of 3)
Total-63 matches
20 minutes a match(may not be possible)
on 8 fields (which we have)
The whole tournament one night and less than 3 hours
immmmm IN
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32 man double elimination tournament (best 2 out of 3)
Total-63 matches
20 minutes a match(may not be possible)
on 8 fields (which we have)
The whole tournament one night and less than 3 hours
immmmm IN
20 minutes only if you have a airspawn. 9k out maybe
4 man - 8 group round robin for 1st round - top 2 advance under seeding. IMO
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Now we re talking. Make it an event. Or multiple events. Time zone friendly.
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I'm in. :aok
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I would prefer attending the matches based on the times available for each pilot, a mutual time agreement per match. Some people are overseas, and it would be difficult for them to make an event based on EST or PST's. Further, an event like this is easily disrupted by the 'others' in the DA; perfect example is TanK Klub.
ex:
If I draw Vudak, he could say I'm available this Sunday 10pm est, are you? Post the results of the 2/3 and move on.