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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BulletVI on August 13, 2010, 01:29:04 PM
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In this post i have had an idea from watching the Top Ten of Fighter Aircraft on Discovery Turbo
So lets Do An Aces High II Top Ten Fighter's :)
Score your Choice On :- Handling out of 10
Speed out of 10
Armament out of 10
Survivability out of 10
And Fear Factor Out Of 10
Below is my one and i shall total up all entry's To give a Final Top Ten :)
SuperMarine Spitfire MkVIII
Handling 8/10
Speed 7/10
Armament 7/10
Survivability 6/10
Fear Factor 8/10
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The Mighty B25C Mitchell Bomber
Handling 0.5/10
Speed 0.7/10
Armament 1/10
Survivability 0.0/10
Fear Factor 0.1/10
:D
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Supermarine Spitfire IX
Handling 8/10
Speed 7/10
Armament 7/10
Survivability 7/10 (This cannot simply mean physical toughness...it has to include evasiveness caused by maneuverability in appropriately skilled hands)
Fear Factor 8/10 (Everyone screams on 200 when they see Spits..it must be scary, right?)
Changeup
Hawker Hurricane IIc
Handling 9/10
Speed 5/10
Armament 9/10
Survivability 7/10
Fear Factor 7/10
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Bf109K4
Handling 6/10
Speed 10/10
Armament 8/10
Survivability 10/10
Fear Factor 10/10
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:banana:
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:banana:
:headscratch: :headscratch: Would help to have some text :lol :rofl :D
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:banana:
Dork
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo82/bzavasnik/rollerbananadone.gif)
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:headscratch: :headscratch: Would help to have some text :lol :rofl :D
Why? This is about as constructive as "Who are the best sticks".
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P38G
Handling Yes
Speed meh
Armament yes
Survivability rarely
Fear Factor scares me every time I'm in it.
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Why? This is about as constructive as "Who are the best sticks".
It juast a nice way to see how and what eatch of us rate as our best Aircraft in Ace's its for fun :)
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F4U-4
Handling 8/10
Speed 10/10
Armament 8/10
Survivability 10/10
Fear Factor 10/10
/thread
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P38G
Handling Yes
Speed meh
Armament yes
Survivability rarely
Fear Factor scares me every time I'm in it.
So thats an 8/10 for Handling. 6/10 for speed, 9/10 for armament, Survivability 6/10, Fear Factor 30/10 :lol
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A6M5B
Handling 10 out of 10
Speed 10 out of 10
Armament 10 out of 10
Survivability 10 out of 10
Fear Factor 10 Out Of 10
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P38G
Handling Yes
Speed meh
Armament yes
Survivability rarely
Fear Factor scares me every time I'm in it.
Just the way it should be. :D
I was just thinking P-39D
Handling no
Speed no
armmament meh
survivability :rofl
fear factor scaes me every time I'm in it.
:)
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F4U1-A
Handling: 9
Speed: 8
Armament:7
Survivability:8
Fear Factor: 8
Probably low, but my 2 cents. If there is only one opponent, I would argue the 1A is a tough bird to beat. The greatest weakness I think it has is it's slow acceleration.
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F4U1-A
Handling: 9
Speed: 8
Armament:7
Survivability:8
Fear Factor: 8
Probably low, but my 2 cents. If there is only one opponent, I would argue the 1A is a tough bird to beat. The greatest weakness I think it has is it's slow acceleration.
Yes i agree unless you dive it accelerates as fast as a milk cart :lol
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This sort of thing is silly. Everybody rates their personal favorite aircraft much higher than is justified. Simply looking at the numbers posted thus far demonstrates this.
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This sort of thing is silly. Everybody rates their personal favorite aircraft much higher than is justified. Simply looking at the numbers posted thus far demonstrates this.
Sure, but you can have some fun with it :)
Karnak-Mosquito
Handling 10/10
Speed 10/10
Armament 15/10
Survivability 10/10
Fear Factor 10/10
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This sort of thing is silly. Everybody rates their personal favorite aircraft much higher than is justified. Simply looking at the numbers posted thus far demonstrates this.
Yes but i do hope for honesty and if i believe that a post is made for fun like the one above i wont use it. My score for the Spit 8 is how i rate it others can rate it differently if they wish :)
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A6M2-5b
Handling 10/10
Speed 3/10
Arament 6/10
Survivability 0.5/10
Fear Factor 3/10 Which makes it that much more deadly.. :devil :devil :devil
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A6M5b
Handling 10/10
Speed 3/10
Arament 6/10
Survivability 0.5/10
Fear Factor 3/10 Which makes it that much more deadly.. :devil :devil :devil
Fixed for accuracy
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I think it's interesting that people are rating 6x.50cals so highly for armament. Not that I think they are inadequate but 7/10 is probably a little too high. I'd give that loadout a 5/10. It's not bad at all but it's not great either.
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Ar 234
Handling: 4
Speed: 8
Armament: 7
Survivability: 10
Fear factor: 1 (people seem to think that i can shoot the from the front so they run!)
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P-39Q
handling 5
Speed 6
Armament 6
Survivability 8.5 (can see with oil hit and is pretty tough also small target)
Fear factor 4 but that can make it more deadly
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P-38J
Handling: 10/10
Speed: 7.5/10
Armament: 10/10
Survivability: 10/10
Fear factor: 10/10
Sexiness: 100/100
ack-ack
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Why? This is about as constructive as "Who are the best sticks".
no doubt about it :aok
is it not time once again for a whos the best thread, that one has not been up for a few weeks.
ba bla bla whatever
froger
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P-47N
Handling: 6/10
Speed: 8.5/10
Armament: 9/10
Survivability: 10/10
Fear factor: 5/10
Sexiness: 1/100 :rofl
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FW-190D
Handling: 7/10
Speed: 9/10
Armament: 10/10
Survivability: 10/10
Fear factor: 10/10
Sexiness: 100/100
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Fear factor: 1 (people seem to think that i can shoot the from the front so they run!)
lolz
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Me-262
Handling 8/10
Speed 10/10
Armament 10/10
Survivability 10/10
Fear Factor 10/10
Sex Appeal 100/100
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no doubt about it :aok
is it not time once again for a whos the best thread, that one has not been up for a few weeks.
ba bla bla whatever
froger
Oh small, slimy, green friend....you are that poster aren't you? Just trollin on through another thread? lmao :noid
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N1K2-J
Handling 8/10
Speed 4/10
Armament 10/10
Survivability 6.5/10
Fear Factor 8/10
Sexier than P-38 factor 20/10
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C47A
0
0
0
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10000
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Spitfire Mk XIV
Handling 8/10
Speed 9/10
Armament 9/10
Survivability 10/10
Fear Factor 4/10
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Spitfire Mk XIV
Handling 8/10
lol
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mosquito
Handling - 6/10
Speed - 9/10
Armament - 11/10
Survivability - 5/10
FF - ? scare me or scare the enemy?
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F4U-4
Handling-9/10
Speed-9/10
Armament-7/10
Survivability-8/10
Fear Factor-9/10
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P-47 M
Handling 9/10
Speed 10/10
Armament 10/10
Survivability 10/10
Fear Factor 10/10
Sexy 10/10
Now who wouldn't think this bird is sexy?
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/game%20stuff%20and%20other/LtPaulCDawsonLittleRockAR63rdFighterSquadronP-47M44-21175UN-ZThisacwaspaintedtorepresentColZemkesacasseeninthephotoattheexhibitioninParis-1.jpg)
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FW-190D
Handling: 7/10
Speed: 9/10
Armament: 10/10
Survivability: 10/10
Fear factor: 10/10
Sexiness: 100/100
I dont know why anyone in their right mind would fly a 190 D9
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P-47 M
Handling 9/10
Speed 10/10
Armament 10/10
Survivability 10/10
Fear Factor 10/10
Sexy 10/10
Now who wouldn't think this bird is sexy?
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/game%20stuff%20and%20other/LtPaulCDawsonLittleRockAR63rdFighterSquadronP-47M44-21175UN-ZThisacwaspaintedtorepresentColZemkesacasseeninthephotoattheexhibitioninParis-1.jpg)
The only people that would possibly give a jug a 10 out of 10 for sexiness would also give this a 10 for sexiness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXlWsBhFvis
They both look about the same. the plane probably handles better though :D
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The only people that would possibly give a jug a 10 out of 10 for sexiness would also give this a 10 for sexiness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXlWsBhFvis
They both look about the same. the plane probably handles better though :D
lol
now thats just wrong! lol
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Why? This is about as constructive as "Who are the best sticks".
Or what is your favorite ride? I agree it's too subjective to be of any real use...
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The only people that would possibly give a jug a 10 out of 10 for sexiness would also give this a 10 for sexiness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXlWsBhFvis
They both look about the same. the plane probably handles better though :D
THAT JUST TOTAL WRONG ( Throw UP ) BUT I GIVE HER 10/10 FOR EFFORT :lol :rofl :rofl :rofl
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P-38J
Handling: 10/10
Speed: 7.5/10
Armament: 10/10
Survivability: 10/10
Fear factor: 10/10
Sexiness: 100/100
ack-ack
Fear factor 10? Thats the plane I always go after first, unless your in it and my cockpit isn't pressurized.
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F4U-4
Handling-9/10
Speed-9/10
Armament-7/10
Survivability-8/10
Fear Factor-9/10
Bro....handling 9/10? Ummm, you da man but..but....but.......but
Changeup
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The only people that would possibly give a jug a 10 out of 10 for sexiness would also give this a 10 for sexiness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXlWsBhFvis
They both look about the same. the plane probably handles better though :D
Dear God....I ran outside and kicked my dog after I watched that. That has reached a new level of wrongness.
Changeup
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F4U-4
Handling 8/10
Speed 10/10
Armament 8/10
Survivability 10/10
Fear Factor 10/10
/thread
I agree, most historians agree that this was the best fighter of the War.
RealDeal
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I agree, most historians agree that this was the best fighter of the War.
RealDeal
They do?
ack-ack
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The only people that would possibly give a jug a 10 out of 10 for sexiness would also give this a 10 for sexiness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXlWsBhFvis
They both look about the same. the plane probably handles better though :D
OMG! why did I look! whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyy
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They do?
ack-ack
They do
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IMO no plane deserves a 10/10 fear factor. The pilot determines that.
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They do
I believe Hartmann and Bong would disagree.
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They do?
ack-ack
OK you are right but here
Euroope
1939-August 1940 the WW2 fighter was the Me bf 109 e , August 1940-1943 The Spitfire/ Fw190. 1943- 1945 P-51B and D versions Mustang :)
Pacific
1942 - 1943 ( late ) A6m Zero except 1942-1943 was shared closely by the Mk8 Spit. Then 1943-1945 F4U Corsair :)
These are what i believe to be the best for these time's in the different theatre's All though the Russian front is tricky as the i16 was only out classed by the 109's speed and later Russian aircraft where better as time got by. ( If a Russian Player can help please DO :) )
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I believe Hartmann and Bong would disagree.
LOL There is no doubt they were very successful pilots. I would maintain they would have been successful in any aircraft they were assigned. I have spent many hours at the Chino airport in CA where many warbirds are flown and have talked with many the guys who fly them and they all basically say the same thing. Anyways, I dont have a dog in the fight, Im just reporting what I've heard from those who fly warbirds. Im just a GA pilot what do I know?
RealDeal
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Ummm, because you're a pilot doe.....nvm that.
I believe the proof is in the pudding and not in what some long winded historian has to say about it. Besides that the stats show that the F6F had the best K/D ratio of any aircraft in the war if I remember correctly. Why wouldn't that plane be considered the best in the war?
Most American historians would tell you the P51D was the best fighter. But I truely believe that would not be so true had the mustang pilots ran into the top German aces in the early part of the war.
But this thread is about the top 10 "AH2" planes. Not the same as real life.
You give the P51s and 38s their high octane fuel and the replys on here would be quite different i think. Present in game flight models does not relate to real life in different times in history. But what do I know, I just live in a van down by the river.
Has anyone even mentioned the 262?
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Bullet I have to disagree with the F4U, not down playing the F4U, but many said the Ki-100 matched it, and IMHO, if the circumstances weren't in favor of the allies, the Ki-100 would have been better then all F4U's, accept maybe the 4, if JP wasn't limited to using inferior materials, and low octane fuel, I think that in fair conditions, the 100 would beat the 4U
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Fixed for accuracy
I was noting it was the A6M2 and A6M5b but whatever floats your boat :cheers:
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lol
That's only if you know how to fly it :old:
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That's only if you know how to fly it :old:
And this is exactly the point why you can't rate it 8/10 in handling. If you have a plane that requires lots of experience to utilize it's strengths and keep it from sliding down tail first, you can't give it a good handling rating. ;)
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(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/ArmyJB&W2/Ki-84-38.jpg)
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Ummm, because you're a pilot doe.....nvm that.
I believe the proof is in the pudding and not in what some long winded historian has to say about it. Besides that the stats show that the F6F had the best K/D ratio of any aircraft in the war if I remember correctly. Why wouldn't that plane be considered the best in the war?
Most American historians would tell you the P51D was the best fighter. But I truely believe that would not be so true had the mustang pilots ran into the top German aces in the early part of the war.
But this thread is about the top 10 "AH2" planes. Not the same as real life.
You give the P51s and 38s their high octane fuel and the replys on here would be quite different i think. Present in game flight models does not relate the real life in different times in history. But what do I know, I just live in a van down by the river.
Luftwaffe pilots wore underwear with an S on their chests or something?
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Bullet I have to disagree with the F4U, not down playing the F4U, but many said the Ki-100 matched it, and IMHO, if the circumstances weren't in favor of the allies, the Ki-100 would have been better then all F4U's, accept maybe the 4, if JP wasn't limited to using inferior materials, and low octane fuel, I think that in fair conditions, the 100 would beat the 4U
READ the title of this thread. The KI-100 is not in the game. :rolleyes:
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Pacific
1942 - 1943 ( late ) A6m Zero except 1942-1943 was shared closely by the Mk8 Spit. Then 1943-1945 F4U Corsair :)
The impact of the Spitfire in the PTO was far less than its impact in the ETO and that time frame 1942-1943, at least for the Allies, it was planes like the Wildcat, P-40 and P-38. Overall in the PTO, it would have to be the Hellcat with the P-38 behind it.
ack-ack
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Luftwaffe pilots wore underwear with an S on their chests or something?
No. It was a big E. EXPERIENCED in combat. Bombers did more to destroy the Luftwaffe than allied fighter pilots.
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I have not been lucky or Honored enough to talk to a lot of ww2 pilots, the one thing that I can say is pretty much every thing I have read or heard was the P-38/ mossie/ P-51 was the "best" ww2 plane, then the spit.
my favorite in the R/W has always been the P-40
I would rate it P-40 in game like
handling 5-10
speed 6-10
armament 5-10
survivability 5-10
fear factor 3-10
sexyness 10-10
my favorite in Game is the hurri2C
handling 9-10
speed 4-10
armament 9-10
survivability 6-10
fear factor 10-10
sexyness 0-10
uglyness 10-10
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And this is exactly the point why you can't rate it 8/10 in handling. If you have a plane that requires lots of experience to utilize it's strengths and keep it from sliding down tail first, you can't give it a good handling rating. ;)
I would you say you need "a lot of experience", but you need to do some reading about it on how it performs to be able to fly it successful.
On the contrary it might be just my point of view.
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DMGOD
Handling 10/10
Speed 10/10
Armament 10/10
Survivability 10/10
Fear Factor 10/10
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DMGOD
Handling 10/10
Speed 10/10
Armament 10/10
Survivability 10/10
Fear Factor 10/10
:rofl you're being too hard on yourself. Your wife puts your speed at 15/10 :neener:
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lol my wife?! oh I'm way too smart to get married sir
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I-16
Handling 3/10
Speed 2/10
Arament 1/10
Survivability 4/10
Fear Factor 0/10
Teh perfect plane for teh challenge of a lifetime.
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I-16
Handling 3/10
Speed 2/10
Arament 1/10
Survivability 4/10
Fear Factor 0/10
Teh perfect plane for teh challenge of a lifetime.
:headscratch:
you must be being facetious :headscratch:
hopefully you are
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:headscratch:
you must be being facetious :headscratch:
hopefully you are
Indeed, although I do fly it often enough to know that Fear factor should probably be negative ans survivability is probably closer to zero. I like flying it, though, gives me a challenge.
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I-16
Arament 1/10
Next time in hangar, select the Type 28 loadout, not 24 or 29 ;)
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OK OK OK O K EVERYONE STOP IT THIS IS A THREAD TO DETERMINE WHICH OF THE AIRCRAFT YOU HAVE FLOWN IN ACE'S HIGH II IS THE BEST IN YOUR MIND. FORGET REAL LIFE THIS IS BASED ON THE GAME AND THUS AFTER A TIME I SHALL TAKE AN AVERAGE OF ALL THOUGHT'S AND MAKE A COMPLETE TOP TEN THAT AT ANY GIVEN TIME CAN CHANGE DUE TO OPINION.
THIS IS OPEN TO ALL EXPERIENCED PLAYER'S AND NEW PLAYER'S IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IF HITECH AND HIS TEAM HAVE GOT THE FLIGHT MODEL RIGHT OR WRONG ITS WHAT YOU THINK IS THE BEST IN GAME NOT REAL LIFE
thankyou
BulletVI
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OK OK OK O K EVERYONE STOP IT THIS IS A THREAD TO DETERMINE WHICH OF THE AIRCRAFT YOU HAVE FLOWN IN ACE'S HIGH II IS THE BEST IN YOUR MIND. FORGET REAL LIFE THIS IS BASED ON THE GAME AND THUS AFTER A TIME I SHALL TAKE AN AVERAGE OF ALL THOUGHT'S AND MAKE A COMPLETE TOP TEN THAT AT ANY GIVEN TIME CAN CHANGE DUE TO OPINION.
THIS IS OPEN TO ALL EXPERIENCED PLAYER'S AND NEW PLAYER'S IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IF HITECH AND HIS TEAM HAVE GOT THE FLIGHT MODEL RIGHT OR WRONG ITS WHAT YOU THINK IS THE BEST IN GAME NOT REAL LIFE
thankyou
BulletVI
whoaa
stop yelling at me dad.....
my stats are for in game :D
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Next time in hangar, select the Type 28 loadout, not 24 or 29 ;)
I've tried them all and 120 rounds of early war 20mm ammo isn't the greatest. I guess it isn't as bad as other loadouts but still isn't the greatest. ;)
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no doubt about it :aok
is it not time once again for a whos the best thread, that one has not been up for a few weeks.
ba bla bla whatever
froger
I vote Frog best pilot :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
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my favorite in Game is the hurri2C
handling 9-10
speed 4-10
armament 9-10
survivability 6-10
fear factor 10-10
sexyness 0-10
uglyness 10-10
Lol ok ink i have to ask, if a hurric does not have 10-10 handling, what does? :angel:
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I've tried them all and 120 rounds of early war 20mm ammo isn't the greatest. I guess it isn't as bad as other loadouts but still isn't the greatest. ;)
Youngin, it's your gunnery that is the problem.
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my stats are for in game :D
Skuzzy told me these planes were REAL!!! :furious
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I've tried them all and 120 rounds of early war 20mm ammo isn't the greatest.
Fire your ground crew. I get 180 rounds all the time :aok
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The only people that would possibly give a jug a 10 out of 10 for sexiness would also give this a 10 for sexiness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXlWsBhFvis
They both look about the same. the plane probably handles better though :D
Visual Castration :confused:
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Oh small, slimy, green friend....you are that poster aren't you? Just trollin on through another thread? lmao :noid
and you are who again ?
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I vote Frog best pilot :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
<------ not so much bro
<<S>> to you sir
froger
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I can shoot down planes with 120 rounds of 20mm no prob I enjoy doing it in the I-16 and the A6M2, I'll admit my gunnery isn't the best but I'm far from spraying and praying. :joystick:
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KI84 w/ noob flying it
5
KI84 w/ average stick in it
6
KI84 w/ good stick in it
9
KI84 w/ JunkyII in it
priceless.....
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LA-7
handling--7
speed--9
armament--6
survivablility--7
fear factor-- runstangs seem to drop out of the sky at the sight of it! :bolt:
sexy?---death isn't sexy.
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LA-7
handling--7
speed--9
armament--6
survivablility--7
fear factor-- runstangs seem to drop out of the sky at the sight of it! :bolt:
sexy?---death isn't sexy.
I guess only jets and rockets are speed 10. :headscratch:
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I guess only jets and rockets are speed 10. :headscratch:
Nah!
Somebody posted that the BF109K4 was rated a 10. :headscratch:
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LA-7
handling--7
speed--9
armament--6
survivablility--7
fear factor-- runstangs seem to drop out of the sky at the sight of it! :bolt:
sexy?---death isn't sexy.
sorry boner =)
La7
handling - 8
speed - 9
armament - 9 (center firing cannon)
survivability - 9
fear factor - to any BNZ plane it is a 10+
sexy - hell yeah!!!
if it had range it would dominate the arena...if it had good ord...well that would be like finding Justine Bateman naked in my bed! I'ld never get out of it!
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Lol ok ink i have to ask, if a hurric does not have 10-10 handling, what does? :angel:
doh
Zero's, Brewster, and I am sure there are a couple more, I-16's, what's that other one....D3-A?
keep your R.G.P. hating out :D
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doh
Zero's, Brewster, and I am sure there are a couple more, I-16's, what's that other one....D3-A?
keep your rpg hating out :D
pfftttttttt...... :lol
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pfftttttttt...... :lol
:rofl
is that your head springing a leak cuz I flew around ya and popped ya one............. :x
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:rofl
is that your head springing a leak cuz I flew around ya and popped ya one............. :x
:neener:
Nah, tis an honorable death to be killed by you, but the hurrici is a 10/10 handling, this is a comparison of LW birds I presume. I mean, if you want to compare the hurric handling to WW1 aircraft it would probably be a 2/10.
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Nah, tis an honorable death to be killed by you, but the hurrici is a 10/10 handling, this is a comparison of LW birds I presume. I mean, if you want to compare the hurric handling to WW1 aircraft it would probably be a 2/10.
if we were comparing just the late war rides,I would agree, I was assuming we were comparing all the rides we have in AH.
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...well that would be like finding Justine Bateman naked in my bed! I'ld never get out of it!
You DO realize that Justin and Justine Bateman are one and the same? :D
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You DO realize that Justin and Justine Bateman are one and the same? :D
That's one way to justify your fantasy. I think Justine had a deeper voice though :D
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That's one way to justify your fantasy. I think Justine had a deeper voice though :D
AND, she's like 40
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Just to off-topic the off-topicers:
B-25H
Handling: 3/10
Speed: 3/10
Armament: 9/10
Survivability: 4/10
Fear factor: 1/10 generally, but 10/10 when you realise you've been lazy and/or stupid and allowed it to get on your 6, or into a HOing position.
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AND, she's like 40
So? She's probably younger than most of us, then. Besides, .... never mind. This is a PG board. ;)
<S>
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234
Handling is 5/10. Being it a bomber, but don't underestimate it. It can surprisingly stay on many planes' six with a notch of flaps.
Speed is 10/10 since it's a jet. IT can be caught, but if you fly smart it's pretty uncatchable.
Armament is 8/10. 2 20mm rear mounted guns are deadly if you practice.
Survivability 10/10. It's fast.
Fear Factor 50/10 when I'm in it.
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^ I can attest to that. I have seen too many reds run for cover with Spikes in that 234. :lol
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No. It was a big E. EXPERIENCED in combat. Bombers did more to destroy the Luftwaffe than allied fighter pilots.
Gonna have to go with Rino here. Regardless of which side they flew for, the general consensus among the WW2 pilots was there were stages a pilot went through from newb, to vet to the 'twitch' where their effectiveness in combat went down and the risks they took were greater. More time in combat did not mean better. Look at photos of Boelcke and Von Richtofen at the beginning and end of their combat lives. Von Richtofen was more then likely a victim of too much time in combat, breaking his own rules. Photos of Merseilles show much the same
Those that survived were the exceptions to the rule and in many ways products of where they flew.
Credit the war of attrition on all fronts, mixed with the experienced RAF and USAAF pilots and their numbers and the LW guys didn't have much of a chance. The bombers were the bait, the fighters cleared the air
Respect those LW guys who survived all those combat hours and the luck/skill needed to do so. Don't make em supermen as they weren't. Given the same role an RAF pilot, USAAF Pilot, Russian pilot, Japanese or whoever would have accomplished the same things had they been forced to fly never ending combat without a break.
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P-51B
handeling: 5/10
speed: 7/10
armament: 5/10
survivability: 3/10-8/10 (depends on how good of a tour I'm having)
fear factor: 3/10 (Nothing is really 'feared' in AH, since pilot skill level greatly varies. I go into a fight respecting, but never fearing my opponent. If anything, the Tiger comes closest to actually creating any kind of fear by simple presence on the battle field. I've seen good tankers shy away from areas of the map where tiger drivers are active)
110G2
handeling: 7/10
speed: 4/10
armament: 10/10
survivability: 2/10
fear factor: 10/10 (if nothing else, that gun package creates fear whenever one is within D1000 of your 6)
And I think guppy's example of the WWI aces is a good one. They were great pilots, but too much time in combat took its toll on them.
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FW-190-D9
Handling- 3/10
Speed- 10/10
Armament-8/10
Survivability- 10/10
Fear factor-10/10
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IT would be cool if someone made a video of aces high planes that was like one of those top 10 shows. It could be based on a poll and numbers of kills per death or something like that.
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I think it's interesting that people are rating 6x.50cals so highly for armament. Not that I think they are inadequate but 7/10 is probably a little too high. I'd give that loadout a 5/10. It's not bad at all but it's not great either.
"Armament" doesn't mean pure firepower, in which case, yes, the Ma Deuce is only average. The quality also includes ballistics, muzzle-velocity, etc. When you consider the Brownings are about as close to point-and-click weaponry as you have in the game, then yes, they ARE that good.
Compare the German cannon where they may be more powerful, but hitting anything requires prayer and sacrificing a couple sheep.
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Saxman, the Mg151/20's aren't as terrible as people seem to feel. They just take some adjustment time. Oh sure, they're not really up to hitting a D800 target, but the .50's aren't world beaters at that range either. At the furthest, I can hit a manuvering target at D600, and a non manuvering target at D800 with a little luck.
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Saxman, the Mg151/20's aren't as terrible as people seem to feel. They just take some adjustment time. Oh sure, they're not really up to hitting a D800 target, but the .50's aren't world beaters at that range either. At the furthest, I can hit a manuvering target at D600, and a non manuvering target at D800 with a little luck.
The guns on German planes are a little tougher to use than the M2, mostly in part due to the lower muzzle velocity of the German guns and they cannot 'reach out and touch you' at the ranges the M2 can. Last night took out 2 P-51s that both came screaming down on me for the bounce, got both on the overshoot, one at 800 yards and the 2nd at 1000yards. The only thing that prevents more kills at that those ranges with the M2 isn't the gun itself, it's the gunnery skill of the pilot that is the limiting factor.
ack-ack
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Ki-67 Hiryu
Handling = 10
speed = 10
Armament = 10
Survivability = 10
Fear factor = 33.333
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IT would be cool if someone made a video of aces high planes that was like one of those top 10 shows. It could be based on a poll and numbers of kills per death or something like that.
Problem being is that the perk rides would take top dog...looking at the stats the 262 and Tempest have the highest K/D's in at 6. Then the 163 is at 4, the rest are the F4U's around 2, etc.
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While that is true Ack-Ack, I'm simply saying that the M2 isn't the buzz saw it is at D200. While it is entirely capable of killing at those ranges, its still not as hard hitting as it would be at D350.
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While that is true Ack-Ack, I'm simply saying that the M2 isn't the buzz saw it is at D200. While it is entirely capable of killing at those ranges, its still not as hard hitting as it would be at D350.
An M2 isn't a buzz saw at D200? There is hardly a plane in the game that could survive a concentrated burst (hitting at convergence) of .50 calibers at 200 yards. A P-38 will just shred things at that close range and that's just 4x .50 cals and imagine the getting hit by 8x .50 cals from a Thunderbolt.
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While that is true Ack-Ack, I'm simply saying that the M2 isn't the buzz saw it is at D200. While it is entirely capable of killing at those ranges, its still not as hard hitting as it would be at D350.
You really need to stop posting for a bit and read some books. You are truly looking incompetent right now.
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Masherbrum, all I'm saying is that the U.S. .50 isn't a deathstar lazer. I love the browning, its a great gun with great balistics and stopping power, but its not like it makes the Mg151 look like a pile of crap either.
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I'd have to agree with AckAck here on gunnery skill Vs guns...there are guys here that can make you wonder what the heck just happened after they take you down with a hurri or spit 1......it all comes down to your convergence and hitting at it, if all your bullets hit at the convergence point it is going to be devistating ...most of the the time guys aren't hitting at their convergence setting...you must also bear in mind that just because you see D400 doesn't mean you are hitting at that (if this is your convergence) the con could be anywhere between D201 and D599.
To keep the topic
Ki61
on a good AH day 10's all round
on a bad AH day 200 all day :furious :o :uhoh :salute :cheers: :o :bolt:
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An M2 isn't a buzz saw at D200? There is hardly a plane in the game that could survive a concentrated burst (hitting at convergence) of .50 calibers at 200 yards. A P-38 will just shred things at that close range and that's just 4x .50 cals and imagine the getting hit by 8x .50 cals from a Thunderbolt.
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I agree,,,I have reset all my guns to 300 on my jugs and at that range it will rip up anything that gets in front of it,, just as well as any other gun in the game,, plus the fact that i have 3400 of them does not hurt anything either
I figured it once , if I remember correctly it puts 118 bullets out every second,, thats as much of a "lead" lazer as there is!
thats why I fly it, it can kill anything that gets in front of it! now getting something in front of it is not always so easy but if you like to b-n-z it cuts like a hot knife thru butter!
One of my other favorites is the yak 9, the 37 MM gun is great if you hit someone with it but at 37 rounds, you have to hit them pretty quick or your out of ammo!
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The zero because its cool like me :cheers:
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No Ack-Ack, you misunderstand. It is a buzzsaw at 200 yds, not at long range. Its still hard hitting, your just not going to shear the wing off a 190 with a 1/2 sec burst.
And Ack-Ack, is the lack of convergance issues one of the reasons you fly the P-38?
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No Ack-Ack, you misunderstand. It is a buzzsaw at 200 yds, not at long range. Its still hard hitting, your just not going to shear the wing off a 190 with a 1/2 sec burst.
And Ack-Ack, is the lack of convergance issues one of the reasons you fly the P-38?
Anytime you wish me to roll a D-11 or D-25 against your 190 in the DA, come talk to me. You are grossly underestimating the effectiveness of 6-8 50 cals.
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No Ack-Ack, you misunderstand. It is a buzzsaw at 200 yds, not at long range. Its still hard hitting, your just not going to shear the wing off a 190 with a 1/2 sec burst.
Of the two P-51Ds I shot down at along range last night...1st had the tail section removed with a 1 second burst of my 4x .50 calibers, the 2nd P-51D had the starboard wing completely removed at the wing root and set on fire with another 1 second burst from my 4x .50 calibers.
And Ack-Ack, is the lack of convergance issues one of the reasons you fly the P-38?
The lack of convergence on the P-38 has never had any bearing on my decision to fly the Lightning, it's just one of the benefits I enjoy when flying it.
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Hmmm, it appears I'm either overestimating the A8's structural integrity, or under estimating the .50.
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Anytime you wish me to roll a D-11 or D-25 against your 190 in the DA, come talk to me. You are grossly underestimating the effectiveness of 6-8 50 cals.
:aok You are and always shall be my ( well I wont say hero) defender of the jug!!!! my favorite ride!
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Hmmm, it appears I'm either overestimating the A8's structural integrity, or under estimating the .50.
Or both.
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Ride: Ms. Silat ( aka ch 200 lolita aka runs up me stockings aka crazy auntie S )
Handling: normaly soft occasionally rough
Speed: sometimes shes on it, you can tell when she really wants to keep going
Armament : shes got a big gun down there....but ya'll have seen the movie
www.silatchickswith*iks.com
Survivability : not good....wrap up if ya know what i mean
Sex appeal: 4.6/10 789/10 with red high heels
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A6M5B
Handling 10 out of 10
Speed 10 out of 10
Armament 10 out of 10
Survivability 10 out of 10
Fear Factor 10 Out Of 10
Fail on the survivability
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FM2
Handeling: 8/10
speed: 3/10
Armament: 5/10
Survivability: 6/10
Fear Factor: 10/10 (damn scarry flying that thing :D)
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sorry boner =)
La7
handling - 8
speed - 9
armament - 9 (center firing cannon)
survivability - 9
fear factor - to any BNZ plane it is a 10+
run factor - 10
sexy - hell yeah!!!
if it had range it would dominate the arena...if it had good ord...well that would be like finding Justine Bateman naked in my bed! I'ld never get out of it!
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P-38K
Handling = 7/10
Speed = magical
Armament = Stupendooferous
Climb = mythical
Survival = Yes
Sex apeal = Too beautiful to live...
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Too bad the 38K never saw combat. I wonder what kind of reputation the 38 mightve had if it did see combat... :noid
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F4F-4
This bird is a monster in disguise.
Handling - 9/10 This bird can really surprise a pilot in various different planes. My personal favorite is the Spit 16 pilot.
Speed 7-8/10 If flown properly.
Armament 10/10 Take the 4 gun package, magic things happen with it. Your ammo will not run out as fast with this load out, you will usually run out of fuel first.
Survivability 10/10 This bird can really take a beating and then rtb.
Fear Factor ...... ?/10 I am not sure, haven't asked the other guy.
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I dont think the P-51 mustang would be known as the "best" fighter aircraft of WWII.
I would love to see a horde of p-38's instead of Pony's.
Something so beatiful and horrible at the same time would probably tear into the very fabric of the common AHer and rip apart their fragile minds.
People across the globe would lose their sanity seeing a horde of P-38K's flying in AH.
The president accidentally sees a screenshot while searching for diet food recipes. He loses his mind and punts the nuclear football into mother russia.
Nuclear Holocaust.
Actually, now that I think about it, I kind of like the horde of pony's compared to a nuclear holocaust... :noid
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Sandwich, you forgot the P-51H. Pony still is king :neener:. Although the F4U-4 was likely the best U.S. bird that saw service.
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Sandwich, you forgot the P-51H. Pony still is king :neener:. Although the F4U-4 was likely the best U.S. bird that saw service.
P-51H? LOL!
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Damnit sandwich, now I want both the P-38K, and the P-51H.
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The guns on German planes are a little tougher to use than the M2, mostly in part due to the lower muzzle velocity of the German guns and they cannot 'reach out and touch you' at the ranges the M2 can. Last night took out 2 P-51s that both came screaming down on me for the bounce, got both on the overshoot, one at 800 yards and the 2nd at 1000yards. The only thing that prevents more kills at that those ranges with the M2 isn't the gun itself, it's the gunnery skill of the pilot that is the limiting factor.
ack-ack
Thats correct, the M2 coupled with the F-86s radar ranging gunsite had an affective range of 2 miles.
RealDeal
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Hmmm, it appears I'm either overestimating the A8's structural integrity, or under estimating the .50.
I'd say it's a mix of both. The reason why a lot of players think the M2 is porked is because they are just simply not hitting at the convergence point and/or not hitting a critically vital area on the bandit. You can be the greatest virtual shot in the world that would make Marseille look like a crappy but it does no good if you place the rounds in where it does the least damage.
I'm not saying the Butcher Bird isn't a tough plane, it clearly was but some tend to get into a false notion of it being uber armored (in some minds, like the IL2) because they've run into many a pilot who really isn't all that great of a shot coupled with a lack of understanding about hitting at the convergence.
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Damnit sandwich, now I want both the P-38K, and the P-51H.
What P38K?
Fantasy birds part of the deal?
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Damnit sandwich, now I want both the P-38K, and the P-51H.
P-38K never existed and the P-51H never saw combat in any war.
ack-ack
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Plane: Fm2
Handling: Sometimes
Speed: Rare
Armament : Decent
Survivability : Surving is for wieners
Fear Factor : KEEL IT!
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Yak 9U
handling - 8
speed - 8
armament - 7
survivability - 7
fear factor - meh
sexy - girl next door-ish
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What P38K?
Fantasy birds part of the deal?
But, but, but......
How else did they go from J to L?
Explain yourself 38 dweeb! :)
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Ok, lets come to a compromise. Since we can't have a P-38K or P-51H, we'll cut them in half and see what we get. P-38K + P-51H = P-38H
Sound good to everybody?
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whatever im in
10's across the board and just like chuck norris i only die because i choose to
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Ok, lets come to a compromise. Since we can't have a P-38K or P-51H, we'll cut them in half and see what we get. P-38K + P-51H = P-38H
Sound good to everybody?
I like the way you think.
Bring on the P-38H.
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I remember killing you once bagrat. It ended with a collision on your end, but I was creeping up on your 6, slowly but surely.
And no, the P-38K never was built, but I can still want it.
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I remember killing you once bagrat. It ended with a collision on your end, but I was creeping up on your 6, slowly but surely.
And no, the P-38K never was built, but I can still want it.
ah this was a dark time when my computer was soo fast i always recieved collision damage, ive slowed it down thru means of simultaneaously streaming pron while playing AH :D
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Ok, lets come to a compromise. Since we can't have a P-38K or P-51H, we'll cut them in half and see what we get. P-38K + P-51H = P-38H
Sound good to everybody?
Best idea I've heard in a long time.
You, sir. Deserve a cookie.
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Run factor 10
"Run" factor?? :rofl
I guess someone has to perpetuate the myth.
Or mayby you were confusing the La with the P-51 or 190s or Tempests or the 47n or the-----------------
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"Run" factor?? :rofl
I guess someone has to perpetuate the myth.
Or mayby you were confusing the La with the P-51 or 190s or Tempests or the 47n or the-----------------
oh no the LA is one of the best runners, and sad to say most use it that way, but those in the "know" understand it is one of the greatest fighters in game.
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oh no the LA is one of the best runners, and sad to say most use it that way, but those in the "know" understand it is one of the greatest fighters in game.
Yep
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but those in the "know" understand it is one of the greatest fighters in game.
But "those" are far and few between.
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But "those" are far and few between.
very true, I know of maybe 5 that fly it the way it should be flown
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And what way is that? I've always just stayed fast, and used the good manuverability to get a shot. Extend far enough that I can reverse without getting ventilated, and then repeat. Never really TnB with it since theres always a niki, hurri, or some other plane that out turns me in the furball.
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very true, I know of maybe 5 that fly it the way it should be flown
I haven't seen a decent La7 stick since Shane quit.
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And what way is that?
Aggressively, good use of the vertical, and knowing how to stall fight in it is a huge plus.
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I haven't seen a decent La7 stick since Shane quit.
ack-ack
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There was time when I was pretty deadly in the La-La. I flew it almost exclusively for a year. Since Shane stopped playing, the sight of a La-7 brings laughter rather than ... "I wonder if that's Shane".
I can still open up a can of whoop bellybutton in it occasionally ... I mainly use it now for an NOE spoiler. Take off like a bat out of hell on the deck ... find the goon(s) and kill them and then come back and chew up the remaining attackers (usually 110s).
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Ok, lets come to a compromise. Since we can't have a P-38K or P-51H, we'll cut them in half and see what we get. P-38K + P-51H = P-38H
Sound good to everybody?
no objections here
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very true, I know of maybe 5 that fly it the way it should be flown
And that would be true of almost any fighter in the game.
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And what way is that? I've always just stayed fast, and used the good manuverability to get a shot. Extend far enough that I can reverse without getting ventilated, and then repeat. Never really TnB with it since theres always a niki, hurri, or some other plane that out turns me in the furball.
The LA will easily out maneuver a n1k, or hurri, it is great at knife fighting, tight scissors, get the crossing shot, if ya miss grab some speed and then climb, The LA is one of the baddest planes in game, it is a waist to just use it in the BnZ style, yes it is great for that, and if there are huge number disadvantage to ya then keep it fast, if ya don't want to die, but me I would rather fight the numbers and see exactly what the plane can do. keep it under 10 k and very few planes can touch it.
but it does not matter how great the plane is, it will only do what the pilot tells it to do, so if they don't understand ACM.....well you get me point?
And that would be true of almost any fighter in the game.
I dont know, there are at least that many who truly like to fight, but ya the MA's are full of :headscratch:
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F4F-4
Handling = 9/10
Speed = 10/10 in a dive
Armament = 4/10 or 10/10 if you know how to fly it.
Climb = 6/10
Survival = 8/10
Sex apeal = 10/10
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The LA will easily out maneuver a n1k, or hurri, it is great at knife fighting, tight scissors, get the crossing shot, if ya miss grab some speed and then climb, The LA is one of the baddest planes in game, it is a waist to just use it in the BnZ style, yes it is great for that, and if there are huge number disadvantage to ya then keep it fast, if ya don't want to die, but me I would rather fight the numbers and see exactly what the plane can do. keep it under 10 k and very few planes can touch it.
but it does not matter how great the plane is, it will only do what the pilot tells it to do, so if they don't understand ACM.....well you get me point
I dont know, there are at least that many who truly like to fight, but ya the MA's are full of :headscratch:
I hate it when you run into one of these guys that use it like this...by the time you realize they are going to fight you instead of the usual hit and run and high angle front deflection shot fight :D..you are fighting to get on an equal standing...For me that is...some of you others might not have trouble
*edit* I should add here that I don't hate it, I actually like it but hate the fact that I just merged for a HO and they are already setting for the fight....love the fight
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I hate it when you run into one of these guys that use it like this...by the time you realize they are going to fight you instead of the usual hit and run and high angle front deflection shot fight :D..you are fighting to get on an equal standing...For me that is...some of you others might not have trouble
Your right ... if you merge with an La-7 and it doesn't try to HO you, that's your first sign. Then when you look back and it's not extending at full speed ... tighten your seat belts and get your game on cause your in for a fight.
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I almost never ho unless backed into a corner, and yet I'm still not a great stick.
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I almost never ho unless backed into a corner, and yet I'm still not a great stick.
you are thinking less of yourself skillset or being humble....unless you just quit Hoing...if you have been fighting for the shot and not the HO chances are you are better then 97.764.885.578.86% of the MA
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you are thinking less of yourself skillset or being humble....unless you just quit Hoing...if you have been fighting for the shot and not the HO chances are you are better then 97.764.885.578.86% of the MA
He HO's...last time I ran into him when he was flying a La7 he went for pure HO shots.
ack-ack
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"Run" factor?? :rofl
I guess someone has to perpetuate the myth.
Or mayby you were confusing the La with the P-51 or 190s or Tempests or the 47n or the-----------------
Wasn't refering to the plane ;)
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Oh BS Ack-Ack. You jumped one of my buddies, and upon saying "oh toejam, 38s on me. Someone get this guy" I dove in and and made a pass at you. Unfortunatly I hit the windows key instead of Z, and augared into the ground. I'm probably the worst HO'er in the game, and if I do ho, I only win it by getting the golden BB. Yesterday for example, NEMESIS tried hoing my la5 in his F4U after he lost the advantage. I fired a parthian shot at 1k out and snapped his wing off.
And ink, I would probably be beaten quite easily by most people in the game with the exception of the newbs. I just don't like hoing since it does nothing to show who is the better pilot.
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Oh BS Ack-Ack. You jumped one of my buddies, and upon saying "oh toejam, 38s on me. Someone get this guy" I dove in and and made a pass at you. Unfortunatly I hit the windows key instead of Z, and augared into the ground. I'm probably the worst HO'er in the game, and if I do ho, I only win it by getting the golden BB. Yesterday for example, NEMESIS tried hoing my la5 in his F4U after he lost the advantage. I fired a parthian shot at 1k out and snapped his wing off.
And ink, I would probably be beaten quite easily by most people in the game with the exception of the newbs. I just don't like hoing since it does nothing to show who is the better pilot.
I hear ya, but I have found that usally when I merge with someone and they do not HO I know I am in for a fight, and win or lose those are the fights that are the best.
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I hear ya, but I have found that usally when I merge with someone and they do not HO I know I am in for a fight, and win or lose those are the fights that are the best.
Not in my case Ink.. I refuse to HO and the vacuum I create as a pilet could pull a bowling ball through a garden hose across the country.
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Not in my case Ink.. I refuse to HO and the vacuum I create as a pilet could pull a bowling ball through a garden hose across the country.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :salute
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:salute back atcha sir :)
sorry about the ankle bruises
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TA-152
Handling
6.7/10
Speed
9/10
Armament
10/10
Climb
8/10
Survival
6/10
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Climb in the Ta-152 sucks unless youve got some speed. I would give it a lower rating IMO.
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I have a love/hate relationship with the Ta 152's handling. On one hand it's so unstable that she'll send you tail first to your death if you look at the controls the wrong way. On the other hand that instability lets you really throw the nose out far to land some difficult shots. Sort of like designing a plane to be unstable to get the most performance, except we don't have a bunch of computers to keep it in the air.
The real Ta pilots didn't care too much for the instability though. ;)
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Climb in the Ta-152 sucks unless youve got some speed. I would give it a lower rating IMO.
Mmm, not quite. The Ta152 is golden because it has incredible range and incredible wep. 15 minutes of wep i believe, that recharges at a ratio of 2:1. Wepped Ta152 will outclimb most of the non wepped A/c in the game.
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152 is a beast.
I was going to type some other stuff but that describes it so well.
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I'd say the Ta-152 is a bit like the P-47: good down low, but out preformed by some, and exceptional up high.
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I'd say the Ta-152 is a bit like the P-47: good down low, but out preformed by some, and exceptional up high.
:rofl
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I'd say the Ta-152 is a bit like the P-47: good down low, but out preformed by some, and exceptional up high.
No.
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My most feared planes are 1: 109K4, because Grizz might be in it; 2: P-51B, because only really good sticks fly it; and 3: (any)F4U-4 that has alt on me.
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P 38L for it's slimming effect.
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P 38L for it's slimming effect.
:rofl You mean you look slim when standing next to it?
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Only when he wears his pumps and that little black dress!!!
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Well really, anything with D-Day markings should be slimming. Vertical stripes, after all. :D
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P 38L for it's slimming effect.
Mine came with a bloating effect :cry