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Title: So what is this??
Post by: EagleDNY on February 10, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
2/10/12 - 9pm or so.  Knight CV 105 approaching a bish base, bombers incoming.  I look to see who is in charge of the CV so that we can get it turned to avoid the buffs.  Imagine my surprise at seeing this:

vDallas is in charge of the knight CV:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eagledny/6854421429/in/photostream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eagledny/6854421429/in/photostream)
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5116/ahss0.jpg)
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vDallas is a BISH!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eagledny/6854421479/in/photostream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eagledny/6854421479/in/photostream)
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4611/ahss2.jpg)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: 68ZooM on February 10, 2012, 08:37:06 PM
well i guess he was telling his squad where it was at, what is wrong with people in this game, just sickening anymore.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: EagleDNY on February 10, 2012, 08:39:25 PM
So what is the deal - you can take control of the CV and then Jump to another country and retain control???
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: The Fugitive on February 10, 2012, 08:39:48 PM
Ask DMGOD, telling people on the opposing side where a CV is is an offense and you can/will get a chat suspension for it.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: oTRALFZo on February 10, 2012, 10:02:53 PM
So what is the deal - you can take control of the CV and then Jump to another country and retain control???
I think there was a bug a while back to where if you swap countries with command of the CV, then it just remain a rogue fleet. You would be able to take command but not change the waypoints.

Wouldnt surprise me if he tried to exploit this and somehow he got caught. Given he goes far to probably wear bish cape and tights, I hardly think he jumped to knits to "help" them. If this IS the case, I hope his privs do get suspended or even banned
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: lyric1 on February 10, 2012, 11:09:07 PM
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Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: PFactorDave on February 10, 2012, 11:34:55 PM
I hope nobody is surprised.

I also hope that dweebery such as this inspires a few more v guys to abandon the vhorde.  I know there have been a few to leave lately.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 11, 2012, 01:38:09 AM
5 years and I still get surprised...what a gamer.  Its like cheating at golf...how will you ever know how good you really are?  Get much sleep after pencil-whipping someone?  lol...

I hope Skuzzy chokes him.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: DinkDink on February 11, 2012, 06:07:45 AM
   Looks like a whine to me.  :O :ahand :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :neener: :neener: :neener: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :airplane: :joystick: :old: :x :devil :cheers:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: SWrokit on February 11, 2012, 06:31:25 AM
   Looks like a whine to me.  :O :ahand :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :neener: :neener: :neener: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :airplane: :joystick: :old: :x :devil :cheers:

No Whine.  Just goes to show you what a what a bunch a crap he is, and yet he has the balls to call one of my squaddies..........amazinhunk!!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: ozrocker on February 11, 2012, 07:33:10 AM
Lots of Integrity  :aok





                                                                                                                                        :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: realgood on February 11, 2012, 07:43:12 AM
    I can not touch this  to much whine in it got to get me some chesse to go with it  :D :devil :ahand :banana: :banana: :neener: :neener: :neener: :airplane: :old:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Reaper90 on February 11, 2012, 07:50:36 AM
(http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49889&stc=1&d=1044997063)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Reaper90 on February 11, 2012, 07:51:43 AM
    I can not touch this  to much whine in it got to get me some chesse to go with it  :D :devil :ahand :banana: :banana: :neener: :neener: :neener: :airplane: :old:

Really? You a big fan of cheaters and gamers, realgood?
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: JOACH1M on February 11, 2012, 07:52:31 AM
(http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49889&stc=1&d=1044997063)
+1
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: B4Buster on February 11, 2012, 08:07:01 AM
This isn't a whine at all. VDallas was able to keep control of the CV, it seems, even after he switched countries.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: realgood on February 11, 2012, 08:13:16 AM
  Ooo no just loves the whine an chesse . just fly Bish airlines keeps in good standed with all . This happlys all the time seen a week ago when a Nit took over a cv the bish had an sail it rite back to there port got sunk end of story. :ahand :cry :cry :devil :neener: :neener: :old:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Reaper90 on February 11, 2012, 08:15:55 AM
 Ooo no just loves the whine an chesse . just fly Bish airlines keeps in good standed with all . This happlys all the time seen a week ago when a Nit took over a cv the bish had an sail it rite back to there port got sunk end of story. :ahand :cry :cry :devil :neener: :neener: :old:


Started drinking early, eh?
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: B4Buster on February 11, 2012, 08:18:57 AM
 Ooo no just loves the whine an chesse . just fly Bish airlines keeps in good standed with all . This happlys all the time seen a week ago when a Nit took over a cv the bish had an sail it rite back to there port got sunk end of story. :ahand :cry :cry :devil :neener: :neener: :old:

Reply with a coherent sentence next time.

 :headscratch:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: mbailey on February 11, 2012, 08:24:56 AM


Started drinking early, eh?

 :rofl
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: realgood on February 11, 2012, 08:26:18 AM
  Like what  :furious :furious :D :devil :ahand :cry :cry :cry :headscratch: :headscratch: :banana: :banana: :banana: :neener: :neener: :neener: :P :P :x :cheers:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: TEShaw on February 11, 2012, 08:27:54 AM
 Ooo no just loves the whine an chesse . just fly Bish airlines keeps in good standed with all . This happlys all the time seen a week ago when a Nit took over a cv the bish had an sail it rite back to there port got sunk end of story. :ahand :cry :cry :devil :neener: :neener: :old:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: helbent on February 11, 2012, 08:41:39 AM
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Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: The Fugitive on February 11, 2012, 08:42:11 AM
I hope nobody is surprised.

I also hope that dweebery such as this inspires a few more v guys to abandon the vhorde.  I know there have been a few to leave lately.

What I think ultimately gets them to move on is the boring missions. They finally realize that the missions are no longer fun because it's the same thing over and over again. They move on looking for something more. I've seen a number of them who were VERY vocal on the BBS defending the horde style of play move on and become decent cartoon pilots looking for action in more than just the everyday base roll.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: TEShaw on February 11, 2012, 08:51:00 AM
 Ooo no just loves the whine an chesse . just fly Bish airlines keeps in good standed with all . This happlys all the time seen a week ago when a Nit took over a cv the bish had an sail it rite back to there port got sunk end of story. :ahand :cry :cry :devil :neener: :neener: :old:

The 'Ooo' suggests more a sensuous pleasure rather than surprise or emphasis.

There's an attractive symetry to ' . '.

I kind of like 'happlys'; it suggests an imposed haplessness.

'all the time seen a week ago'  ...awake all the time?  ...couldn't stop looking?

'when a Nit took over a cv the bish had' [sic] (the bish had already took over?)

'there port' adds a kind of whimsical charm to direction finding.  ..."I went to there corner to buy some candy and got lost before returning to my there house."  etc.

The 'sunk end of story' ...I prefer the happier uplifting end of story.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: helbent on February 11, 2012, 08:51:41 AM
What I think ultimately gets them to move on is the boring missions. They finally realize that the missions are no longer fun because it's the same thing over and over again. They move on looking for something more. I've seen a number of them who were VERY vocal on the BBS defending the horde style of play move on and become decent cartoon pilots looking for action in more than just the everyday base roll.

Again, please define insanity for me?  How long will this take?  Or is ignorance a 10 year bliss?
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: DMGOD on February 11, 2012, 08:55:23 AM
Ask DMGOD, telling people on the opposing side where a CV is is an offense and you can/will get a chat suspension for it.

Yup it is definitely cheating and 100% not tolerated by htc. If proof is shown he should get a chat ban


 
So everyone understands HTC's position. If you change sides to find and kill a country's CV or if you announce your countries CV position just to grief your own country, If HTC finds or is given proof about it.

You will at a minimum be muted for 1 week.

HiTech


Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: RTHolmes on February 11, 2012, 09:21:47 AM
nice catch eagle :aok

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Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: BushLT1 on February 11, 2012, 09:39:55 AM
Well seen this few weeks ago. Guy was rook but had control of bish cv. Think its a bug.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: wil3ur on February 11, 2012, 10:03:11 AM
That's a bit more than just switchINg sides to give away a position...  That's exploiting a bug in the game.  If he can game his score to something suitably low enough, take control of a CV, then hop sides and remain in command, he'll know exactly what course it will remain on.  This is much much more than blabbing on 200 or sending a PM, and I think deserves a LOT more than a chat suspension.


Though stuff like this, I know HTC tends to frown on having aired publicly on the boards... so I'd be careful myself.   :bolt:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 11, 2012, 10:13:07 AM
   Looks like a whine to me.  :O :ahand :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :neener: :neener: :neener: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :airplane: :joystick: :old: :x :devil :cheers:

Im guessing that is because you have 5 posts
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Reaper90 on February 11, 2012, 10:59:03 AM
Im guessing that is because you have 5 posts

Judging by his avatar and his obsession with emoticons, I'd say:

He's probably vTarded,
He's 10, maybe 11 years old,
and worst of all, vDallas is probably his idol because he knows how to put people "in their place" on private vox.

 :joystick:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: 1Boner on February 11, 2012, 11:52:24 AM
I can't understand why I'm not surprised at this.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Flench on February 11, 2012, 12:09:16 PM
I can't understand why I'm not surprised at this.

Same , lol .
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: jimbo71 on February 11, 2012, 12:11:56 PM
The church of davidwales does not condone this type of behavior.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: perdue3 on February 11, 2012, 12:14:54 PM
It is a CV. Who cares?
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Daddkev on February 11, 2012, 12:22:35 PM
 :bhead :bhead :bhead stupid stupid stupid! :bhead :bhead :bhead
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Shuffler on February 12, 2012, 12:32:58 PM
I saw this last night too. You should post it in the bug section.


Send copy direct to HiTech.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 12, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
i have a stupid question........

now i will start with the clarifying statement that i do not like or care for vDumbllass, so let us not get things confused.

but did he actually use his control over the cv to his benefit? did he have control and then switch sides to join the rest of the vTards and the bug in the game just left it under his command? what im saying is its a bug right? so did he do it with exploitation and dweebish malice in mind or did he just switch and the bug itself is making him appear to be a villain in this?
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: oTRALFZo on February 12, 2012, 01:19:13 PM
i have a stupid question........

now i will start with the clarifying statement that i do not like or care for vDumbllass, so let us not get things confused.

but did he actually use his control over the cv to his benefit? did  have control and then switch sides to join the rest of the vTards and the bug in the game just left it under his command? what im saying is its a bug right? so did he do it with exploitation and dweebish malice in mind or did he just switch and the bug itself is making him appear to be a villain in this?

Its a bug that was known a while back that I know of. What used to be the case was when you hopped countries, it wouldn't show anyone in command. If the release of the patch just kept the name of who had command after the country switch...I dunno.

VDallas just switching in general to take command of a nit CV by his credability is for no other reason but to be a spoiled brat and grief others. How this guy even has lasted this long in this game with all he does is beyond me
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Dragon on February 12, 2012, 01:31:34 PM
vCheat confirmed.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: chaser on February 12, 2012, 04:41:52 PM
FWIW I tried this offline and when you switch countries while in command of a CV you cannot change its course or even see it on the map or in the clipboard list of CV's. So I don't think he was able to move it or see it's location but instead it still just showed him to be in command while he really couldn't do anything witht he CV. Not that I care for the guy or any of his squad, but I'm just saying.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: wil3ur on February 12, 2012, 05:07:07 PM
If you are ranked #1 and were to do this, you could position it on a set course where you know it's going to be.  Then switch countries and go and bomb it.  Because you're Rank #1, you would know that nobody could get command of the CV from you, and it's as good as locked in position.

Now replace rank #1 with anything up to around rank #50 and you can be fairly certain no one with a higher rank will be on the other team to kick you off.

I'm not condoning it, merely pointing out there is a very real way of using this exploit to your advantage.  Knowing what I know about the v's and the bish and the pilot in question, I can only assume this is exactly what he was doing.

Pathetic   :aok  :rofl
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 12, 2012, 05:49:23 PM
i guess my requested point of proof would be, does anyone know if he or the vTards attacked the cv immediately or really soon after he switched. this would have to be done very soon after his switching otherwise his prior knowledge is of diminishing value to him, the likely hood of circumstances changing before he could exploit those circumstances would continue to grow with every passing minute he delayed. his rank is 144...that leaves 143 potential people that could have taken control of the cv, not including possible enemies who could have spotted and sunk the cv, if he did not immediately act upon the information as it was when he switched sides.

so if anyone can show that he destroyed the cv, or took part in its destruction, shortly after switching sides then i would say yes, it was an intentional exploitation of the circumstances and would be disgustingly gamey. but without this type of showing of proof i would say that the only recourse is to stop pointing fingers and making accusations and send the pic's to htc and ask them to fix the bug.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: oTRALFZo on February 12, 2012, 06:46:07 PM
i guess my requested point of proof would be, does anyone know if he or the vTards attacked the cv immediately or really soon after he switched. this would have to be done very soon after his switching otherwise his prior knowledge is of diminishing value to him, the likely hood of circumstances changing before he could exploit those circumstances would continue to grow with every passing minute he delayed. his rank is 144...that leaves 143 potential people that could have taken control of the cv, not including possible enemies who could have spotted and sunk the cv, if he did not immediately act upon the information as it was when he switched sides.

so if anyone can show that he destroyed the cv, or took part in its destruction, shortly after switching sides then i would say yes, it was an intentional exploitation of the circumstances and would be disgustingly gamey. but without this type of showing of proof i would say that the only recourse is to stop pointing fingers and making accusations and send the pic's to htc and ask them to fix the bug.
You dont have to sink the cv to grief others. The bug in the game is that when you swap countries, the cv that was in command of the guy who switches cannot be controlled from the course..regardless of rank.

These guys are constantly exploiting bugs with CVs. Putting them in sectors where bugs make ppl disco when the enter a sector or parking them across the maps while others get chat banned for this type of behavior
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: EagleDNY on February 12, 2012, 06:54:14 PM
i guess my requested point of proof would be, does anyone know if he or the vTards attacked the cv immediately or really soon after he switched. this would have to be done very soon after his switching otherwise his prior knowledge is of diminishing value to him, the likely hood of circumstances changing before he could exploit those circumstances would continue to grow with every passing minute he delayed. his rank is 144...that leaves 143 potential people that could have taken control of the cv, not including possible enemies who could have spotted and sunk the cv, if he did not immediately act upon the information as it was when he switched sides.

so if anyone can show that he destroyed the cv, or took part in its destruction, shortly after switching sides then i would say yes, it was an intentional exploitation of the circumstances and would be disgustingly gamey. but without this type of showing of proof i would say that the only recourse is to stop pointing fingers and making accusations and send the pic's to htc and ask them to fix the bug.

The CV was bombed and destroyed shortly thereafter.  I do not know who got it, but it was bish bombers that got it.  I know this because when I logged back on shortly after posting the original pics, the CV had respawned back across the map. 
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: dalllas71 on February 12, 2012, 11:22:17 PM
This thread was brought to my attention by a couple of my squaddies and I'll address this once.

To start with, a simple look at the same pics provided will clearly illustrate that at the time some of you saw the ghost I was logged on as a Bishop. Therefore, there's no possible way that I could be control of some other country's CV even if I needed to.

Sorry to be a story killer but I haven't logged on as a Nit for close to three years and that's just how it is. Further, when you're in charge of one of the top squads in AH II you can't very well bail, for at least 12 hours, just to switch countries to hold on to some silly CV.

In other words, do business executives generally go to the office supply to pick up printer ink and highlighters?

Doesn't make much sense, does it?

Deep breaths everybody ... on three ... one ... two ...   

Hope all is well.

vDALLAS
Commanding Officer
DEVILS =v= BRIGADE   
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Butcher on February 12, 2012, 11:24:49 PM
So dallas is caught doing what his squad normally does?
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: guncrasher on February 12, 2012, 11:33:04 PM
This thread was brought to my attention by a couple of my squaddies and I'll address this once.

To start with, a simple look at the same pics provided will clearly illustrate that at the time some of you saw the ghost I was logged on as a Bishop. Therefore, there's no possible way that I could be control of some other country's CV even if I needed to.

Sorry to be a story killer but I haven't logged on as a Nit for close to three years and that's just how it is. Further, when you're in charge of one of the top squads in AH II you can't very well bail, for at least 12 hours, just to switch countries to hold on to some silly CV.

In other words, do business executives generally go to the office supply to pick up printer ink and highlighters?

Doesn't make much sense, does it?

Deep breaths everybody ... on three ... one ... two ...  

Hope all is well.

vDALLAS
Commanding Officer
DEVILS =v= BRIGADE  

vdallas sorry to tell you but I personally saw you as a knight when you guys were trying to switch countries.  you were in the same base I was.

edit: perhaps you forgot how many people on local told you to go back to bishop.


semp
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Vulcan on February 12, 2012, 11:33:44 PM
Pretty sad, I always feel sad for people that have to game the game like this. You wonder how bad they must have it in real life to feel the need to do this in a virtual world.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: PFactorDave on February 12, 2012, 11:51:41 PM
Further, when you're in charge of one of the top squads in AH II

That's the part where I started laughing...   :rofl
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Dragon on February 13, 2012, 07:10:00 AM
That's the part where I started laughing...   :rofl

 :rofl
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 13, 2012, 07:20:55 AM
Top squads in AH?  I suppose if you had mind control over 300 to 400 3rd graders, they could kick the pizz out of a handful of pro football players but that doesn't make them good.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Masherbrum on February 13, 2012, 07:42:12 AM
Further, when you're in charge of one of the top squads in AH II you can't very well bail, for at least 12 hours, just to switch countries to hold on to some silly CV.

Doesn't make much sense, does it?

vDALLAS
Commanding Officer
DEVILS =v= BRIGADE

You are right.   What you say, does not make sense.   You are far from a good player, far from being in "a top squad" and you need to pad your scores with shenanigans like this.   You always have.   The fact people see you worthy as a Squadron C.O., speaks for their lack of character judgement.   

Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: kilo2 on February 13, 2012, 07:50:02 AM
BURN THE WITCH!

I agree with perd it is not a big deal.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: lulu on February 13, 2012, 08:55:43 AM
This is a good case.

Are we really sure that the picture was not manipolate to show vDallas name?

Is It a case mounted by enemy intelligence or is It only a true vDallas toejam action?

Is this a case for  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiLXCCMHjfE


 :D

Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: wil3ur on February 13, 2012, 09:06:48 AM


Further, when you're in charge of one of the top squads in AH II you can't very well bail, for at least 12 hours, just to switch countries to hold on to some silly CV.

 

This comment was based on numbers and altitude...   :rofl
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: JOACH1M on February 13, 2012, 09:07:38 AM
That's the part where I started laughing...   :rofl
Me too  :lol
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: 1Boner on February 13, 2012, 10:31:42 AM
To start with, a simple look at the same pics provided will clearly illustrate that at the time some of you saw the ghost I was logged on as a Bishop.


Ghost?? 

What does that mean???

Is it some sort of glitch?

Ghost??
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Shuffler on February 13, 2012, 10:34:57 AM

Ghost?? 

What does that mean???

Is it some sort of glitch?

Ghost??

A ghost is an apparition full of hot air. Fitting :)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Flench on February 13, 2012, 11:43:51 AM
Top squads in AH?  I suppose if you had mind control over 300 to 400 3rd graders, they could kick the pizz out of a handful of pro football players but that doesn't make them good.

LOL !
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 13, 2012, 11:49:04 AM

Ghost?? 

What does that mean???

Is it some sort of glitch?

Ghost??

That is v-speak for "crap! I got caught with poo pants and I'm 40 miles from a laundry mat...gotta think of some babbling BS fast!"
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: lulu on February 13, 2012, 11:51:25 AM
No Perry Meson needs more ... it was  a toejam (happens) thing    :lol  :rofl

 :aok


 :salute
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Butcher on February 13, 2012, 11:53:31 AM
Top squads in AH?  I suppose if you had mind control over 300 to 400 3rd graders, they could kick the pizz out of a handful of pro football players but that doesn't make them good.

Quoted forever :)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Bruv119 on February 13, 2012, 11:57:01 AM
as for the KN guys that kind of "it doesn't matter attitude" is what got Germany into deep dudu.   Would you cross the road if you saw an old granny getting mugged?  

This is a case of un-sporting conduct by a villainous chief and should be dealt with forthwith!!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: hitech on February 13, 2012, 12:01:33 PM
I tested the issue. It works correctly if you change countries while in command it will kick you out of command.

But I did find out how it happened and it will be fixed with the next host update.

The bug has been in existence since the CV stuff was written, I'm surprised it has not surfaced until now.

HiTech
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Shuffler on February 13, 2012, 12:27:16 PM
If you change countries while in command it will kick you out of command.

But I did find out how it happened and it will be fixed with the next host update.

HiTech

Great HT thanks!!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Rob52240 on February 13, 2012, 12:48:34 PM
So it wasn't a conspiracy?

love muffines...
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Butcher on February 13, 2012, 12:52:15 PM
So it wasn't a conspiracy?

love muffines...

You fail to understand this has been noted before, hence why we point fingers first - for most of us this isn't the first time dealing with Dallas.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: 321BAR on February 13, 2012, 12:53:09 PM
and the witch hunt ends :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Daddkev on February 13, 2012, 01:01:39 PM
 :noid :noid :noid +1 :noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Rob52240 on February 13, 2012, 01:10:24 PM
You fail to understand this has been noted before, hence why we point fingers first - for most of us this isn't the first time dealing with Dallas.


And you fail to understand that we don't cheat.  You also have a habit of talking toejam at every opportunity.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 13, 2012, 02:03:35 PM
I tested the issue. It works correctly if you change countries while in command it will kick you out of command.

But I did find out how it happened and it will be fixed with the next host update.

The bug has been in existence since the CV stuff was written, I'm surprised it has not surfaced until now.

HiTech

Did the bug allow control of the CV or just that the image of the player's name appear in the command box?  I suppose that could also be none of Changeup's business...
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Shuffler on February 13, 2012, 02:06:31 PM
Did the bug allow control of the CV or just that the image of the player's name appear in the command box?

I do not think having "control" was ever the issue. Another persons ability to take ownership was at issue. That meant the cv was locked into whatever course the previous individual had set.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 13, 2012, 02:08:12 PM
I do not thing having "control" was ever the issue. Another persons ability to take ownership was at issue. That meant the cv was locked into whatever course the previous individual had set.

Isn't locked the same as control?  I really don't know is why I'm asking.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: 1Boner on February 13, 2012, 02:43:51 PM
Did the bug allow control of the CV or just that the image of the player's name appear in the command box?  I suppose that could also be none of Changeup's business...

Very good question.

Mine is: If according to this dallas guy, he hasn't logged on to the Nits for 3 years, has his name been there for 3 years??

How would his name get put in command of a Nit CV if he hasn't been on that team lately??

Very confusing.............. :headscratch:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Ardy123 on February 13, 2012, 02:49:23 PM
Top squads in AH?  I suppose if you had mind control over 300 to 400 3rd graders, they could kick the pizz out of a handful of pro football players but that doesn't make them good.

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: lulu on February 13, 2012, 02:51:24 PM
"I tested the issue. It works correctly if you change countries while in command it will kick you out of command.

But I did find out how it happened and it will be fixed with the next host update.

The bug has been in existence since the CV stuff was written, I'm surprised it has not surfaced until now.

HiTech"

So I was near the true. This was a conspiracy made by enemy intelligence ...

 :salute
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Butcher on February 13, 2012, 03:00:49 PM
Very good question.

Mine is: If according to this dallas guy, he hasn't logged on to the Nits for 3 years, has his name been there for 3 years??

How would his name get put in command of a Nit CV if he hasn't been on that team lately??

Very confusing.............. :headscratch:

It's easy as switching countries to command the CV. Log out for 12 hours and log back to switch countries back then give some random jibberish on BBS when caught.

/Not the first time

Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: wil3ur on February 13, 2012, 09:10:15 PM
I could think of a couple possibilities, but I'm unwilling to check, because that would be time and effort...  but I could possibly see taking 'control' of a CV, if you have a timer for the sink to coincide with it's respawn back to an enemy port (if there was a capture).  At which point it would momentarily exist on both sides...  You commanding would then somehow 'ghost' onto the other side...  there's probably a couple other ways the code could be futzed to do it, but that seems logical, and possibly breakable.  It would still take an extreme coincidence, or someone with a stopwatch to reproduce.


 :noid
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 13, 2012, 09:40:54 PM
I could think of a couple possibilities, but I'm unwilling to check, because that would be time and effort...  but I could possibly see taking 'control' of a CV, if you have a timer for the sink to coincide with it's respawn back to an enemy port (if there was a capture).  At which point it would momentarily exist on both sides...  You commanding would then somehow 'ghost' onto the other side...  there's probably a couple other ways the code could be futzed to do it, but that seems logical, and possibly breakable.  It would still take an extreme coincidence, or someone with a stopwatch to reproduce.


 :noid

But Semp said he actually spoke to him as a nit. 
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Rob52240 on February 13, 2012, 10:20:37 PM
But Semp said he actually spoke to him as a nit. 

Semp is out of his mind.  As usual.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Daddkev on February 13, 2012, 10:37:53 PM
 :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 13, 2012, 10:50:06 PM
Semp is out of his mind.  As usual.

He is out of his mind, that is true. But others saw him too...just saying
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: MajWoody on February 13, 2012, 11:24:03 PM
What a pathetic squad led by a pathetic liar, and loser.  :aok
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Rob52240 on February 13, 2012, 11:38:08 PM
did everyone ignore what HiTech wrote about this?  or is this just another assumption / unsupported allegation thread as usual?
 
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: SmokinLoon on February 13, 2012, 11:41:18 PM
It is no surprise that it happened.  It certainly is no surprise as to who exploited the bug.  I'm really glad HTC is correcting the bug in the next patch.

time to close this chapter.   :aok
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: MajWoody on February 13, 2012, 11:54:24 PM
 

This is a case of un-sporting conduct by a villainous chief and should be dealt with forthwith!!

+1 :aok
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: MajWoody on February 14, 2012, 12:03:03 AM
did everyone ignore what HiTech wrote about this?  or is this just another assumption / unsupported allegation thread as usual?
 

It is supported by screenshots as well as those who saw vDOLTAS, and spoke to him as a knit.  :ahand
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Rob52240 on February 14, 2012, 01:23:14 AM
It is supported by screenshots as well as those who saw vDOLTAS, and spoke to him as a knit.  :ahand

You're a diddlying idiot.  None of us have been nits.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: wil3ur on February 14, 2012, 01:30:33 AM
You're an uplifting idiot.  None of us have been nits.

 :salute
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: viking73 on February 14, 2012, 03:29:16 AM
Just saw it again tonight and reported it with screenshots to Skuzzy. Same thing. Funny thing is i don't recall him being a knight. Now have to be for 12 hrs.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: oTRALFZo on February 14, 2012, 03:42:00 AM
did everyone ignore what HiTech wrote about this?  or is this just another assumption / unsupported allegation thread as usual?
 

Yes clearly. It stated that there is/was a bug in the system and didnt go into "what really happend" in this case.

Him saying he hasnt switched in years is just jibberish. There has been plenty of times seeing him in different country rosters but he lay idle for some time, and this time was put in screenshots. Not that country swapping is a crime..but why lie about it?

Wish you guys in the squad would come to terms with his lameness. I see it be fitting that one stands up for their CO, but trust me if you see other sides of the story you would be disapointed too.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Butcher on February 14, 2012, 07:14:55 AM
I will be the first to say I have to defend the vtards, I seen a knight in command of a Rook CV tonight when I logged in, he hasn't been a rook and I am quite sure of it, i checked roster and he was still a knight, however he commanded a rook CV for a minute or so until the roster was fully up.

There might be some truth to the bug, then again who knows.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 14, 2012, 07:16:58 AM
I will be the first to say I have to defend the vtards, I seen a knight in command of a Rook CV tonight when I logged in, he hasn't been a rook and I am quite sure of it, i checked roster and he was still a knight, however he commanded a rook CV for a minute or so until the roster was fully up.

There might be some truth to the bug, then again who knows.

Did you speak to him?  Does he also command one of the best squads in AH?  I mean if all the cool kids are doing it...
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Butcher on February 14, 2012, 07:19:32 AM
Did you speak to him?  Does he also command one of the best squads in AH?  I mean if all the cool kids are doing it...

LOL...................
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: 321BAR on February 14, 2012, 08:03:33 AM
and the witch hunt ends :rolleyes:
the witch hunt continues :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: remy1dog on February 14, 2012, 08:22:12 AM
Likes how people get on here and points fingers like a bunch of first graders. Yet they call the defendent 3rd graders, what class. Grow the "F" up..
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 14, 2012, 08:24:29 AM
Likes how people get on here and points fingers like a bunch of first graders. Yet they call the defendent 3rd graders, what class. Grow the "F" up..

Shhhh....the adults are talking.  Get back to that gameboy.

(the grow the F up comment smacks of class BTW, lol)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: remy1dog on February 14, 2012, 09:16:05 AM
Shhhh....the adults are talking.  Get back to that gameboy.

(the grow the F up comment smacks of class BTW, lol)
Changeup up you are right, shouldn't have inculed the "F" bomb cussing only shows ignorance.
 Just ruffles my feathers when somebody points out a splinter in someones eye and they have a log in theres..
 At least i have a gameboy na na nana!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 14, 2012, 09:22:44 AM
Changeup up you are right, shouldn't have inculed the "F" bomb cussing only shows ignorance.
 Just ruffles my feathers when somebody points out a splinter in someones eye and they have a log in theres..
 At least i have a gameboy na na nana!

Perhaps it's a criticism of style of play more so than a character assessment.  Either way, working loopholes instead of playing the game the way it's designed is 3rd grade lazy.  No log here...I just call it like I see it in the game.  80 people who purposely use sheer numbers to survive hoarding a base is akin to the herd mentality.  I don't mind attempting to be the leopard, believe me.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 14, 2012, 09:58:16 AM
80 people who purposely use sheer numbers to survive hoarding a base is akin to the herd mentality. 

but wasnt that the entire allied strategy aginst Germany durring WWII?


 :neener: :neener: :neener:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 14, 2012, 10:03:44 AM
but wasnt that the entire allied strategy aginst Germany durring WWII?


 :neener: :neener: :neener:

Yes bu the allies had skill and they had superior logistics, equipment and training.  Imagine hoardes of Grizz's, Corky's, Levi's, <insert any uber pilots name here> against a collection of two weekers....at a certain point the air war went real bad for the swastika boys.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Shuffler on February 14, 2012, 10:06:06 AM
Three of the 80th were fighting some folks at an enemy base for some time. Next thing we know there is a huge influx of friendlies. Seems we were at a base scheduled to be taken.

Kind of wierd being at a base with lots of targets and all of a sudden poof. Green all around. lol
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Guppy35 on February 14, 2012, 10:07:17 AM
but wasnt that the entire allied strategy aginst Germany durring WWII?


 :neener: :neener: :neener:

LOL it was  the German strategy too, until the other guys built up their hordes bigger. :aok
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 14, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
LOL it was  the German strategy too, until the other guys built up their hordes bigger. :aok

course the germans didnt have the vTARD option of running and attacking another undefended base at that point.....they had to ride out the storm.....  :ahand
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 14, 2012, 10:19:34 AM
LOL it was  the German strategy too, until the other guys built up their hordes bigger. :aok

The Germans should have known the hoard mentality doesn't work when they hoarded Great Britain in 1940-41 and lost.  vDallas's grandpa must have been Herman Goering....Dallas Goering.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Ardy123 on February 14, 2012, 01:05:01 PM
lol.. hording has been the 'default' military strategy since day one doesn't mean it makes a sporting environment though (Remember folks, AH is a game...). As for BoB-vtard link, well having radar that has a range greater than 5 miles makes a huge difference, just ask the English, they'll tell ya how chain-home saved their arse.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: cattb on February 14, 2012, 03:28:38 PM
This thread was brought to my attention by a couple of my squaddies and I'll address this once.

To start with, a simple look at the same pics provided will clearly illustrate that at the time some of you saw the ghost I was logged on as a Bishop. Therefore, there's no possible way that I could be control of some other country's CV even if I needed to.

Sorry to be a story killer but I haven't logged on as a Nit for close to three years and that's just how it is. Further, when you're in charge of one of the top squads in AH II you can't very well bail, for at least 12 hours, just to switch countries to hold on to some silly CV.

In other words, do business executives generally go to the office supply to pick up printer ink and highlighters?

Doesn't make much sense, does it?

Deep breaths everybody ... on three ... one ... two ...   

Hope all is well.

vDALLAS
Commanding Officer
DEVILS =v= BRIGADE   




 :banana: :banana: :banana:









Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Bruv119 on February 14, 2012, 03:30:59 PM
course the germans didnt have the vTARD option of running and attacking another undefended base at that point.....they had to ride out the storm.....  :ahand

err yes they did, they attacked Russia  and over extended themselves,  then got attacked by 3 sides!!!

shame Hitler couldn't come to the forum and whine about it.    :D
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: DMGOD on February 14, 2012, 05:21:28 PM
Further, when you're in charge of one of the top squads in AH II .





vDALLAS
Commanding Officer
DEVILS =v= BRIGADE  

funny I didn't know that being ranked 39th, 38th, 69th & 44th ( their squad rank past 4 months ) made you a top squad.
2nd i wouldn't be bragging too much
your squad has 31 members has logged 507:29:51 hours and only has 1493 total kills 1369 deaths
even funnier is vtards fighter kills 531 out of 1158 sorties and 565 deaths.

Yup you guys are definitely a top squad
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: PFactorDave on February 14, 2012, 05:37:50 PM
funny I didn't know that being ranked 39th, 38th, 69th & 44th ( their squad rank past 4 months ) made you a top squad.
2nd i wouldn't be bragging too much
your squad has 31 members has logged 507:29:51 hours and only has 1493 total kills 1369 deaths
even funnier is vtards fighter kills 531 out of 1158 sorties and 565 deaths.

Yup you guys are definitely a top squad

 :rofl

Heck, I've got over 200 fighter kills this tour on my own.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Seanaldinho on February 14, 2012, 07:18:04 PM
funny I didn't know that being ranked 39th, 38th, 69th & 44th ( their squad rank past 4 months ) made you a top squad.
2nd i wouldn't be bragging too much
your squad has 31 members has logged 507:29:51 hours and only has 1493 total kills 1369 deaths
even funnier is vtards fighter kills 531 out of 1158 sorties and 565 deaths.

Yup you guys are definitely a top squad

Zing, nuff said.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 14, 2012, 07:20:18 PM
err yes they did, they attacked Russia  and over extended themselves,  then got attacked by 3 sides!!!

shame Hitler couldn't come to the forum and whine about it.    :D

Russia wasn't an undefended base...it was an initially POORLY defended base.  Then, Hitler pizzed them off...woe be unto them.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 14, 2012, 07:31:35 PM
Russia wasn't an undefended base...it was an initially POORLY defended base.  Then, Hitler pizzed them off...woe be unto them.

undefended is definitely not what the situation was.....the germans actually attacked the horde if you think on it, they went in out numbered over 10 to one and in some places over 50 to one. but tactics and technology prove worth more than a horde....only mother nature stopped germany.....had the winter been mild or hell even normal or had the rains and spring floods been reasonable, then the world may look upon a very different map today.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: oTRALFZo on February 14, 2012, 08:00:56 PM
FOOLS!!!
Everyone knows that the Russians won the war after Stalin ordered that the first guy to get shot down up a goon and flood the map room :x
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 14, 2012, 08:03:55 PM
funny I didn't know that being ranked 39th, 38th, 69th & 44th ( their squad rank past 4 months ) made you a top squad.
2nd i wouldn't be bragging too much
your squad has 31 members has logged 507:29:51 hours and only has 1493 total kills 1369 deaths
even funnier is vtards fighter kills 531 out of 1158 sorties and 565 deaths.

Yup you guys are definitely a top squad

Oh my
 :rofl :lol
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: 321BAR on February 14, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
undefended is definitely not what the situation was.....the germans actually attacked the horde if you think on it, they went in out numbered over 10 to one and in some places over 50 to one. but tactics and technology prove worth more than a horde....only mother nature stopped germany.....had the winter been mild or hell even normal or had the rains and spring floods been reasonable, then the world may look upon a very different map today.
i wouldnt go as far as to say that. ive read up that russia was attacked completely by surprise. forces were spread out and like u said not as tactically proficient as the germans. the blitzkreig into russia left a wake of death for the russians. by the time the battle line was at moscow, stalingrad, and leningrad, those numbers you said were still inaccurate but they were still outnumbered by 5:1 to 7:1 but suffered 1/10 of the casualties. you must remember that the german 6th army needed 900 tons of supplies per day and the german airforce at the time approx could only bring 100 tons per day for the battle. those german tactics also were their downfall. supply lines were too stretched out. even on a normal day (need to find the source for this again) the german air supply runs could only potentially bring 114 tons per day which was 12% of what they needed to fight fully.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Ardy123 on February 14, 2012, 10:40:28 PM
i wouldnt go as far as to say that. ive read up that russia was attacked completely by surprise. forces were spread out and like u said not as tactically proficient as the germans. the blitzkreig into russia left a wake of death for the russians. by the time the battle line was at moscow, stalingrad, and leningrad, those numbers you said were still inaccurate but they were still outnumbered by 5:1 to 7:1 but suffered 1/10 of the casualties. you must remember that the german 6th army needed 900 tons of supplies per day and the german airforce at the time approx could only bring 100 tons per day for the battle. those german tactics also were their downfall. supply lines were too stretched out. even on a normal day (need to find the source for this again) the german air supply runs could only potentially bring 114 tons per day which was 12% of what they needed to fight fully.

yeah, I think someone else stated earlier, they were doomed from the get go, any protracted war was going to not favor them. The numbers were not favorable, ~100 mil. Russians + ~100 Americans + 60 mil English vs ~60 mil Germans... Their megalomaniac delusional leader led them down a delusional path of self destruction, and well, that's what they ended up with.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: wil3ur on February 14, 2012, 10:59:47 PM
funny I didn't know that being ranked 39th, 38th, 69th & 44th ( their squad rank past 4 months ) made you a top squad.
2nd i wouldn't be bragging too much
your squad has 31 members has logged 507:29:51 hours and only has 1493 total kills 1369 deaths
even funnier is vtards fighter kills 531 out of 1158 sorties and 565 deaths.

Yup you guys are definitely a top squad

Is DMGOD channeling Lusche?  Where is the snail?!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: MajWoody on February 14, 2012, 11:09:24 PM
You're a uplifting idiot.  None of us have been nits.
Never said you were a knit cupcake. But your "commanding officer" was.
Now run along.
That is all.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: phatzo on February 14, 2012, 11:43:52 PM
(http://img0.etsystatic.com/il_fullxfull.263269852.jpg)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 15, 2012, 12:23:59 AM
undefended is definitely not what the situation was.....the germans actually attacked the horde if you think on it, they went in out numbered over 10 to one and in some places over 50 to one. but tactics and technology prove worth more than a horde....only mother nature stopped germany.....had the winter been mild or hell even normal or had the rains and spring floods been reasonable, then the world may look upon a very different map today.

Figure this one:

Hitler stops at France...just stops.  Negotiates with GB.  Reloads, rearms and refits in say, 5 years.  Keeps the French happy and starts his rhetoric in France...recruits about 500K French and fortifies the French coast even more during those 5 years.  Finishes the jet age aircraft and, God forbid, the nuke.  Now, its 1946.

THEN, he goes into Russia...and straight up invades GB.

Thank God the man wasn't patient.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: viking73 on February 15, 2012, 01:05:14 AM
I'll admit the Devil's Brigade run good missions. But doesn't matter who it is, it's not right. If a knight is doing it take a screenshot and report him also. It's a known bug and they are doing it on purpose. if you forget to leave command before you change, tough. Thing is I know vDallas wasn't a knight because I just had control of that cv to make some changes.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Rob52240 on February 15, 2012, 01:21:05 AM
Just keep patting yourselves on the back guys.....
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: matt on February 15, 2012, 01:36:41 AM
So what is the deal - you can take control of the CV and then Jump to another country and retain control???
:noid
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 15, 2012, 06:37:14 AM
Just keep patting yourselves on the back guys.....


I'm not sure what's worse....that he continues to find new ways to embarrass your squad or that he has such control over his minions that they blindly defend his actions?
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: TEShaw on February 15, 2012, 08:21:47 AM
STOP RUINING THIS HILARIOUS THREAD WITH WW II HISTORY!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 15, 2012, 08:25:09 AM
STOP RUINING THIS HILARIOUS THREAD WITH WW II HISTORY!

It makes for excellent historically-relevant FAILS that highlight the in-game FAILS of vDallas.  Hilarity will ensue.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Rob52240 on February 15, 2012, 10:21:44 AM
I think it's funny that so many assume that a glitch in the game must be the same as cheating. 

Like when I posted the glitch of myself camping a spawn hanger.  Several tanks spawned in and shot friendlies before blowing my vehicle underground.  I was accused by many of cheating.

Some even feel the need to actually lie about being there, and pass off more lies as facts, like any of us being knights, and then lies about speaking to us as knights on green text.

I feel bad for you people.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: DMGOD on February 15, 2012, 10:57:32 AM
Glitches aren't the problem.  Exploiting them to ur advantage is.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Rob52240 on February 15, 2012, 11:02:50 AM
You're assuming it was done on purpose in the first place.  I reported it to skuzzy when I saw the the thread and forwarded it to dallas who called skuzzy.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 15, 2012, 11:24:26 AM
Figure this one:

Hitler stops at France...just stops.  Negotiates with GB.  Reloads, rearms and refits in say, 5 years.  Keeps the French happy and starts his rhetoric in France...recruits about 500K French and fortifies the French coast even more during those 5 years.  Finishes the jet age aircraft and, God forbid, the nuke.  Now, its 1946.

THEN, he goes into Russia...and straight up invades GB.

Thank God the man wasn't patient.

Ahh but Germany did not have the time to wait until all of this was ready before invading Russia. Stalin had every intention of using poland as a jumping point into Europe once his military was stable enough. every action he took preceding the war with germany bears this out. the steady methodical build up of their western front, the invasion of Nordic regions etc etc...all of these actions could only serve one purpose, to surround Germany's eastern flank and give Russia multiple locations for launching an invasion of Europe.

aside from that, it would have taken far more than 5 years to quell the french dissidents..Hitlers only move after he invaded poland was to invade France the jump directly to the utter and total destruction of GB. his mistake was employing only a half hearted and non committed action to accomplishing this endeavour. without GB as a platform to launch from it would have taken USA at least 6 years to enter the war in full effective force. this 6 years could have then been used to destroy the western half of Russia, use that enormous mountain range as a natural wall against counter attack from the Russians living on the other side....the side that Japan was to invade and provoke as much as possible as per the pact between Germany and Japan.

there is probably a million possible scenario's that would have all ended the war better for Germany. but they were not to be..

I, being half German, despise that Germany lost the war, especially as badly as they did, not truly to its enemies, but to the utter incompetence of its leaders....

BUT! without pause or hesitation let me be first to say that the machine that was called "The NAZI Party" needed to die a death that would ensure that it would never rise its monstrous head again. its death needed to be so overwhelming so devastating to those that practiced it that it would serve as a lesson to the entire world that it is a fruitless and barren tree who's seeds should never again be sewn in any society.

so it is what it is....i am hateful of the facts, but i acknowledge that it is how it should be....
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: TEShaw on February 15, 2012, 01:12:53 PM


...there is probably a million possible scenario's that would have all ended the war better for Germany. but they were not to be..

I, being half German, despise that Germany lost the war, especially as badly as they did, not truly to its enemies, but to the utter incompetence of its leaders....

BUT! without pause or hesitation let me be first to say that...

so it is what it is....i am hateful of the facts, but i acknowledge that it is how it should be....

see above for full quote

OK, I'll concede this quasi-historical stuff is hilarious too.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 15, 2012, 01:17:27 PM
see above for full quote

OK, I'll concede this quasi-historical stuff is hilarious too.

glad i could be of some amusement   :rofl :aok :rofl
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Nathan60 on February 15, 2012, 01:22:54 PM
You're assuming it was done on purpose in the first place.  I reported it to skuzzy when I saw the the thread and forwarded it to dallas who called skuzzy.


So  AFTER Dallas got busted you forward Skuczzy and give  Dallas a heads  up thta he needs to call skuzzy? To beg leniency? Maybe tell Skuzzy he did it for his new tv show? A Cheat is a cheat (http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/2/23/The_Cheat_Character_Video.PNG/180px-The_Cheat_Character_Video.PNG)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Shuffler on February 15, 2012, 01:25:49 PM
Gernany's biggest mistake..... bombing Pearl Harbor. It infuriated the Australians.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 15, 2012, 01:36:40 PM
Gernany's biggest mistake..... bombing Pearl Harbor. It infuriated the Australians.



PROOF POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHUF IS DAVID WALES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :pray :pray :pray :pray
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: EagleDNY on February 15, 2012, 06:57:06 PM
:noid

I'm paranoid?  I would think the screenshots I posted at the top of this thread of an obvious bug or exploit pretty much speak for themselves.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion on just what was happening, just as I am entitled to mine.  IMHO somebody got busted exploiting a bug. 

I suppose it could all be a coincidence though.  The system just happened to glitch out a CV command bug, on that CV which just happened to be completing a 6 hour across the map run to a bish base, and it just happened to be a random bish (instead of say a rook) who ended up in the command slot preventing anyone else from turning the CV when bish bombers just happened to be coming along to bomb the CV before it got in range to launch the assault on A55.  Of course it just happened to be vDallas thrown into the command slot instead of any of the other 150-odd bish that just happened to be on at that time, which certainly is odd since vD assures us all that he hasn't been a knight in 3 years or so (so I guess it must be guncrashers paranoia which caused him to see vD in local as a knight).

So many odd coincidences in this game.  Adding up all the probabilities is just mind boggling.   :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch:   
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: DMGOD on February 15, 2012, 07:16:31 PM
Lol vd
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: 321BAR on February 15, 2012, 07:58:18 PM
Ahh but Germany did not have the time to wait until all of this was ready before invading Russia. Stalin had every intention of using poland as a jumping point into Europe once his military was stable enough. every action he took preceding the war with germany bears this out. the steady methodical build up of their western front, the invasion of Nordic regions etc etc...all of these actions could only serve one purpose, to surround Germany's eastern flank and give Russia multiple locations for launching an invasion of Europe.

aside from that, it would have taken far more than 5 years to quell the french dissidents..Hitlers only move after he invaded poland was to invade France the jump directly to the utter and total destruction of GB. his mistake was employing only a half hearted and non committed action to accomplishing this endeavour. without GB as a platform to launch from it would have taken USA at least 6 years to enter the war in full effective force. this 6 years could have then been used to destroy the western half of Russia, use that enormous mountain range as a natural wall against counter attack from the Russians living on the other side....the side that Japan was to invade and provoke as much as possible as per the pact between Germany and Japan.

there is probably a million possible scenario's that would have all ended the war better for Germany. but they were not to be..

I, being half German, despise that Germany lost the war, especially as badly as they did, not truly to its enemies, but to the utter incompetence of its leaders....

BUT! without pause or hesitation let me be first to say that the machine that was called "The NAZI Party" needed to die a death that would ensure that it would never rise its monstrous head again. its death needed to be so overwhelming so devastating to those that practiced it that it would serve as a lesson to the entire world that it is a fruitless and barren tree who's seeds should never again be sewn in any society.

so it is what it is....i am hateful of the facts, but i acknowledge that it is how it should be....
lets just say Command and Conquer Red Alert I would have been true if Hitler wasnt in power etc :aok
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Babalonian on February 17, 2012, 04:57:45 PM
Judging by his avatar and his obsession with emoticons, I'd say:

He's probably vTarded,
He's 10, maybe 11 years old,
and worst of all, vDallas is probably his idol because he knows how to put people "in their place" on private vox.

 :joystick:

Is that what we're calling collapsing in laughter from hyperventalating after one of his motivational lectures these days?
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: W7LPNRICK on February 17, 2012, 07:34:17 PM
 :furious Same mentality of those guys who go to a little league game, and punch out a parent on the opposing team because his son was better, or worse yet, takes a gun and shoots someone for allegedly cheating...viscous little Children! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 17, 2012, 07:42:42 PM
:furious Same mentality of those guys who go to a little league game, and punch out a parent on the opposing team because his son was better, or worse yet, takes a gun and shoots someone for allegedly cheating...viscous little Children! :rolleyes:

Only in America...
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: PFactorDave on February 17, 2012, 07:49:28 PM
Only in America...

Haven't you ever seen the riots that happen at soccer, ahem football, games all of Europe and the Middle East?  Here's the most recent one, it happened in Egypt a couple of weeks ago...

 http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-01/africa/world_africa_egypt-soccer-deaths_1_egypt-al-masry-muslim-brotherhood?_s=PM:AFRICA

Here's one in England a few years ago...

http://www.newser.com/story/27572/scottish-soccer-fans-riot-after-loss.html

It seems that sports and idiots is a worldwide problem.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 17, 2012, 07:54:45 PM
It seems that sports and idiots is a worldwide problem.

Agreed, but I have to report that in the English Football I have never heard of a gun ever being used in Football hooliganism.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 17, 2012, 07:55:48 PM
Here's one in England a few years ago...

http://www.newser.com/story/27572/scottish-soccer-fans-riot-after-loss.html

Bloody Scots
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: lyric1 on February 17, 2012, 07:56:07 PM
 
Gernany's biggest mistake..... bombing Pearl Harbor. It infuriated the Australians.
:huh
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: PFactorDave on February 17, 2012, 07:56:36 PM
You mean Scotland right?!

Article says Manchester...  That is England, is it not?
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: wil3ur on February 17, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
 :huh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIPCGyihxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIPCGyihxw)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: JOACH1M on February 17, 2012, 08:04:35 PM
Only in America...
Don't forget Liverpool  :old:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 17, 2012, 08:10:40 PM
Don't forget Liverpool  :old:

I can't see the scoucers shooting anyone, they're too busy nicking rims and putting cars on bricks.  :D
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: JOACH1M on February 17, 2012, 08:17:21 PM
I can't see the scoucers shooting anyone, they're too busy nicking rims and putting cars on bricks.  :D
And stealing tv sets and flipping cars!  :old:

Damn liverbirds have lost their mind!  :old:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 17, 2012, 08:19:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPIsTKpAoE4

 :lol
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: xbrit on February 17, 2012, 08:30:14 PM
Article says Manchester...  That is England, is it not?
But if you read the article  it did say fans of a Scottish football team that were playing in Manchester.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: PFactorDave on February 17, 2012, 08:34:24 PM
But if you read the article  it did say fans of a Scottish football team that were playing in Manchester.

Yes, this is true.  Do I need to dredge up articles about English fans rioting? 

We both know the truth of the matter, and to be honest, it isn't fair to hijack this thread that was clearly intended to ridicule, mock, and otherwise critique vDallas.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 17, 2012, 08:36:13 PM
Yes, this is true.  Do I need to dredge up articles about English fans rioting? 


I made my initial comment about Gun use. You find Gun usage in English Football between fans, I'll sign up for AcesHigh.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: PFactorDave on February 17, 2012, 08:41:32 PM
I made my initial comment about Gun use. You find Gun usage in English Football between fans, I'll sign up for AcesHigh.

Of course not, your government has decided that you are unfit to posess a firearm.  After reading about the history of "football hooliganism" just a little bit, it strikes me that perhaps they were right.  No, in England, the wackos are forced to beat and stab their victims to death.  Imagine the carnage at these riots, called football matches, if guns were available.  

The number of deaths and injuries at soccer games is astounding, soccer (football) should be banned worldwide!   :D

How many people were killed at American football riots in the last 25 years?  Or maybe professional baseball is where our troubles lie...  Nope, not really.  I would be careful pointing out the splinter in our collective eye...  There seems to be a log in your own. 

[/HiJack over]
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 17, 2012, 08:44:21 PM
Ahh but Germany did not have the time to wait until all of this was ready before invading Russia. Stalin had every intention of using poland as a jumping point into Europe once his military was stable enough. every action he took preceding the war with germany bears this out. the steady methodical build up of their western front, the invasion of Nordic regions etc etc...all of these actions could only serve one purpose, to surround Germany's eastern flank and give Russia multiple locations for launching an invasion of Europe.

aside from that, it would have taken far more than 5 years to quell the french dissidents..Hitlers only move after he invaded poland was to invade France the jump directly to the utter and total destruction of GB. his mistake was employing only a half hearted and non committed action to accomplishing this endeavour. without GB as a platform to launch from it would have taken USA at least 6 years to enter the war in full effective force. this 6 years could have then been used to destroy the western half of Russia, use that enormous mountain range as a natural wall against counter attack from the Russians living on the other side....the side that Japan was to invade and provoke as much as possible as per the pact between Germany and Japan.

there is probably a million possible scenario's that would have all ended the war better for Germany. but they were not to be..

I, being half German, despise that Germany lost the war, especially as badly as they did, not truly to its enemies, but to the utter incompetence of its leaders....

BUT! without pause or hesitation let me be first to say that the machine that was called "The NAZI Party" needed to die a death that would ensure that it would never rise its monstrous head again. its death needed to be so overwhelming so devastating to those that practiced it that it would serve as a lesson to the entire world that it is a fruitless and barren tree who's seeds should never again be sewn in any society.

so it is what it is....i am hateful of the facts, but i acknowledge that it is how it should be....

Ahh, but the ONE historical hypothetical you forgot that I DIDN'T was the peace negotiation with GB and the US.  Had he done that it would have extended the time frame on the US's buildup.  Additionally, the Russian bear wasn't on the warpath at all.  History tells us the idiot known as Stalin was caught so completely off-guard by Operation Barbarosa that German spies were actually sleeping with Stalin's wife and he didn't know it until it was too late.  Further historical evidence regarding the lack of preparedness of the Russian war machine was the sheer ineptitude of their turdy little a/c at the outset of the war with Germany.  Many of the significant German aces of WWII gained their fame flying against turd haulers flown by Russian pile its with zero ACM experience and that hadn't even bothered to grow hair in their armpits yet.  To add insult to injury, the Russians had to lend-lease aircraft from the US...the P-40's and P-39's...planes rated as disposable by the US and no match for the German "wolfpacks". Apparently, the Russian engineers weren't as good as Wmaker and couldn't design a Super Brewster from the scrap heap we lend-leased them.

So, my hypothetical trumps your hypothetical due to the realities of the war.

I too am half German/half Italian....not one other drop of anything else.  My great grandparents immigrated from Cassel and Naples respectively.  German was spoken in my mothers home growing up and Italian in my fathers.  Screw um.  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 17, 2012, 08:47:06 PM
Agreed, but I have to report that in the English Football I have never heard of a gun ever being used in Football hooliganism.

That's because they bore each other to death with stuffiness.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: PFactorDave on February 17, 2012, 08:47:23 PM
Apparently, the Russian engineers weren't as good as Wmaker and couldn't design a Super Brewster from the scrap heap we lend-leased them.


Gasp!

Do you suggest that the Aces High Brewster is over modeled?   :O  Say it isn't so!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 17, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
But if you read the article  it did say fans of a Scottish football team that were playing in Manchester.

The scots ROCK!  The ManU idiots must have started it, lol
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 17, 2012, 08:55:19 PM
Of course not, your government has decided that you are unfit to posess a firearm.  After reading about the history of "football hooliganism" just a little bit, it strikes me that perhaps they were right.  No, in England, the wackos are forced to beat and stab their victims to death.  Imagine the carnage at these riots, called football matches, if guns were available.  

The number of deaths and injuries at soccer games is astounding, soccer (football) should be banned worldwide!   :D

How many people were killed at American football riots in the last 25 years?  Or maybe professional baseball is where our troubles lie...  Nope, not really. 

I can't take your post seriously. Exageration bordering on storytelling.. You'll be telling me the Americans cracked the enigma code next.  :bolt:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 17, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
Gasp!

Do you suggest that the Aces High Brewster is over modeled?   :O  Say it isn't so!

Shhhh....its a secret.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 17, 2012, 09:05:04 PM
Shhhh....its a secret.
It was the added weight (of the Armor plating around the Pilot) that the Finns added that made it turn so well  :banana:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 17, 2012, 11:43:18 PM
Ahh, but the ONE historical hypothetical you forgot that I DIDN'T was the peace negotiation with GB and the US.  Had he done that it would have extended the time frame on the US's buildup.  Additionally, the Russian bear wasn't on the warpath at all.  History tells us the idiot known as Stalin was caught so completely off-guard by Operation Barbarosa that German spies were actually sleeping with Stalin's wife and he didn't know it until it was too late.  Further historical evidence regarding the lack of preparedness of the Russian war machine was the sheer ineptitude of their turdy little a/c at the outset of the war with Germany.  Many of the significant German aces of WWII gained their fame flying against turd haulers flown by Russian pile its with zero ACM experience and that hadn't even bothered to grow hair in their armpits yet.  To add insult to injury, the Russians had to lend-lease aircraft from the US...the P-40's and P-39's...planes rated as disposable by the US and no match for the German "wolfpacks". Apparently, the Russian engineers weren't as good as Wmaker and couldn't design a Super Brewster from the scrap heap we lend-leased them.

So, my hypothetical trumps your hypothetical due to the realities of the war.

I too am half German/half Italian....not one other drop of anything else.  My great grandparents immigrated from Cassel and Naples respectively.  German was spoken in my mothers home growing up and Italian in my fathers.  Screw um.  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl



hahaha some good points....but i will counter your points tomorrow sometime. too late tonight and im beat! so until then....
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Oldman731 on February 18, 2012, 01:07:02 AM
I can't take your post seriously. Exageration bordering on storytelling.. You'll be telling me the Americans cracked the enigma code next.


Ah.  Another Englishman who never saw "U-571."

We pity you for your ignorance.

- oldman
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Zoney on February 18, 2012, 09:33:15 AM
That's because they bore each other to death with stuffiness.

I'm sorry, I know it empowers the sterotypes to continue unabated, but that cracked me up!

Changeup, ya trogladite.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 18, 2012, 10:08:04 AM

Ah.  Another Englishman who never saw "U-571."

We pity you for your ignorance.

- oldman
:lol Best Troll Evar! ^  :lol
(I'm so easy)




Screenwriter admitted that U-571 distorted history.
"It was a distortion, a mercenary decision to create this parallel history in order to drive the movie for an American audience."

I'm guessing you may be of the 'Movies are real' fraternity

The first capture of a Naval Enigma machine from a U-boat was made on the 9th of May 1941, by HMS Bulldog of the Royal Navy. The U-boat was U-110.
In 1942, U-559 was seized, capturing additional Enigma codebooks. Captured codebooks provided vital knowlage to the British cryptographers of the code-breaking centre at Bletchley Park.
The real U-571, was sunk on the 28th of January 1944, west of Ireland by the Aussies.

 :old:  :neener:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: wil3ur on February 18, 2012, 10:09:37 AM
I can't wait to see the real movie filmed with real active duty navy seals on real missions in theatres soon!

 :aok
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: DMGOD on February 18, 2012, 11:15:46 AM
Not sure if it was a "ghost" but I could have sworn I saw vd piloting that boat in the trailor

(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb414/noelle1231/vdallas-1.jpg)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Oldman731 on February 18, 2012, 12:10:44 PM
I'm guessing you may be of the 'Movies are real' fraternity


Well, you know, if it's in the movies or on TV, it has to be true.

That's how I found out that the Americans won the Battle of Pearl Harbor.

- oldman (it was a pretty close thing, though)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: wil3ur on February 18, 2012, 12:14:22 PM


That's how I found out that the Americans won the Battle of Pearl Harbor.


I have a scan of a newspaper somewhere at work we did from December 8th, 1941 with the headline:

US WINS BATTLE OF PEARL HARBOR

It talks how we are in control of the air and waterways around Hawaii, the Japanese were pushed back, and the 'American Stukka' the SBD will wreak havoc on the Japanese fleets. Having 70 years hindsight it's a funny article.  The day after Pearl Harbor it was probably very comforting to read.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: lyric1 on February 18, 2012, 02:04:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIPCGyihxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIPCGyihxw)
I was puzzled by the Australian comment. Very familiar with Bluto though.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: nrshida on February 18, 2012, 02:33:50 PM
Of course not, your government has decided that you are unfit to posess a firearm.

Most policemen don't carry a firearm in Britain either. The government decided they were unfit also.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 18, 2012, 03:05:19 PM
I'm sorry, I know it empowers the sterotypes to continue unabated, but that cracked me up!

Changeup, ya trogladite.
Hehe
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: SHawk on February 18, 2012, 03:22:39 PM
vDallas is the Chad Knaus of Aces High. Only difference is Chad actually has skills :aok
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Rob52240 on February 18, 2012, 03:51:53 PM
I disagree, I think he is more like the Fort Worth of Aces High.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 18, 2012, 04:21:26 PM
Ahh, but the ONE historical hypothetical you forgot that I DIDN'T was the peace negotiation with GB and the US.  Had he done that it would have extended the time frame on the US's buildup.  Additionally, the Russian bear wasn't on the warpath at all.  History tells us the idiot known as Stalin was caught so completely off-guard by Operation Barbarosa that German spies were actually sleeping with Stalin's wife and he didn't know it until it was too late. could you show proof of this? i have never heard it before  Further historical evidence regarding the lack of preparedness of the Russian war machine was the sheer ineptitude of their turdy little a/c at the outset of the war with Germany. completely inaccurate when viewed with the light of supported documentation of the russian deployment of 170 plus divissions in the area Many of the significant German aces of WWII gained their fame flying against turd haulers flown by Russian pile its with zero ACM experience and that hadn't even bothered to grow hair in their armpits yet. russia never based its combat effectiveness on quality, it has always been of the mind that you should charge the enemy with overwhelming force until they run out of bullets then defeat them with your reserves To add insult to injury, the Russians had to lend-lease aircraft from the US...the P-40's and P-39's...planes rated as disposable by the US and no match for the German "wolfpacks". they took free stuff, they needed to close the gap in technology cause they were finding that the loses suffered in their previous strategy were too great. additionally the wanted to do as they have always done take and copy the tech of others.

So, my hypothetical trumps your hypothetical due to the realities of the war. niether your hype nor your realities stand up to a reasonable challenge


ok Changeup im awake and ready.......

first, the peace agreement between US and GB was a worthless document if the US did not have a staging area in the ET. our bombers could not cross the Atlantic, our ships would have no safe harbors and we would have had no place to build up on that side of the world. with out the constant bombing to delay and interfere with the German production of its war machine then the time that the US was delayed in entering the war from the Asiatic side of Europe (assuming they eventually defeated Japan and then managed to get China's or Russia's permission to occupy then cross through their lands with entire armies) how big do you think the German military machine would have been? (especially when they were facing only one enemy front? a landing anywhere in Europe would have been impossible, so only the eastern front could be assailed) with the tech advantage and the open pilfering of all of Europe's resources unhindered would have given them the ability to build up to a size that would quickly become unsurmountable by a third party military force.

second Russia had every intentions of pulling a sneak punch on Germany as early as late 38 early 39...as can be shown by their negotiations with the United Kingdom, France, Poland, and Romania to establish an alliance against Nazi Germany. The negotiations failed when the Soviet Union insisted that Poland and Romania give Soviet troops transit rights through their territory as part of a collective security agreement. The failure of those negotiations led the Soviet Union to conclude the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact with Nazi Germany on 23 August. yes its WiKi but its correct so deal with it!  :neener:

the Russian bear was most definitely on the war path, they were aggressors in the conflicts that would become WWII European Theater! they invaded Poland on 17 September 1939 then invaded Finland on 30 November 1939. thy spent most of 40 building up in what could only be viewed in a attack profile, not a defensive one.

now read this paper, very interesting read actually....give you a different perspective on the world situation.. http://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html (http://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html)

oh and for some additional support for the claims in the page above try this link http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n3p40_Michaels.html (http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n3p40_Michaels.html)

your ball.....what you got???? hahaha  :neener:

P.S. just so the world at large understands, alot of the informational sites that you will find this anti-public school opinion stuff in is on sites that may (not all support, some just tell it from the other side of the fence without promotion or twisting of events) support either Germany at large or the nationalist theme of government.

none of the papers i posted are politically undertoned or tainted, but others on the sites may be. i am not in any fashion a NAZI or a NAZI sympathizer, i am just into knowing as much truth with as little propaganda as possible, i find that the only way to accomplish this is to look on both sides of the fence while balancing upon the top. the papers letters and speeches sited as references within the articles exist as well as the events that transpired, this is the factual side of things, what truths or conclusions you as a person draw from the information is purely up to you as an intelligent and sentient being capable of thinking for yourself.

let few men tell you what to think......let NO MAN tell you how to think!!!!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Oldman731 on February 18, 2012, 10:49:43 PM
second Russia had every intentions of pulling a sneak punch on Germany as early as late 38 early 39...as can be shown by their negotiations with the United Kingdom, France, Poland, and Romania to establish an alliance against Nazi Germany. The negotiations failed when the Soviet Union insisted that Poland and Romania give Soviet troops transit rights through their territory as part of a collective security agreement. The failure of those negotiations led the Soviet Union to conclude the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact with Nazi Germany on 23 August. yes its WiKi but its correct so deal with it!  :neener:

the Russian bear was most definitely on the war path, they were aggressors in the conflicts that would become WWII European Theater! they invaded Poland on 17 September 1939 then invaded Finland on 30 November 1939. thy spent most of 40 building up in what could only be viewed in a attack profile, not a defensive one.


If you have the opportunity, read Isaac Deutscher's biography of Stalin.  Deutscher was an admitted Trotskyite (one of the world's best 3-volume bios) and so an obvious enemy of Stalin.  His bias is thus no worse than neutral.  From Stalin's perspective, Germany was a centuries-old aggressor, obviously coming on again with Hitler and his "Mein Kampf" proclamations about Lebensraum.  Stalin used the purges to get rid of anyone with possible anti-Stalin sympathies; he attacked Finland to improve his Baltic position, as with his occupation of the Baltic countries and the eastern portion of Poland.  He was improving his defensive position as much as possible while he attempted to re-arm a country devastated by revolution, civil war and social "readjustment." 

There is absolutely no evidence (unless you are a Rudel fan) that Russia was preparing to invade the west in 1941 - or even in the foreseeable future.  Stalin had too many problems already.

- oldman
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 19, 2012, 01:40:27 AM

If you have the opportunity, read Isaac Deutscher's biography of Stalin.  Deutscher was an admitted Trotskyite (one of the world's best 3-volume bios) and so an obvious enemy of Stalin.  His bias is thus no worse than neutral.  From Stalin's perspective, Germany was a centuries-old aggressor, obviously coming on again with Hitler and his "Mein Kampf" proclamations about Lebensraum.  Stalin used the purges to get rid of anyone with possible anti-Stalin sympathies; he attacked Finland to improve his Baltic position, as with his occupation of the Baltic countries and the eastern portion of Poland.  He was improving his defensive position as much as possible while he attempted to re-arm a country devastated by revolution, civil war and social "readjustment."  

There is absolutely no evidence (unless you are a Rudel fan) that Russia was preparing to invade the west in 1941 - or even in the foreseeable future.  Stalin had too many problems already.

- oldman

ahhh but stalins released speeches and other papers dispute your statements above. they show plenty of proof of a likely aggressive move by Russia later in that summer. additionally if you look at the way stalins forces had been deployed prior to germanies invasion, you will see that they made no tactically defensive sense, but if you were planning to attack outward with them (first strike) then their deployment made perfect sense by the combat doctrines of the day.

but this is also why i say dont pick a side, instead sit upon the fence and see where the dogs truly fertilize the yards  :D


oh and i screwed up my own previous quote it should have been:

let few men tell you what to think about......let NO MAN tell you how to think about it!!!!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Vulcan on February 19, 2012, 03:05:44 AM
:lol Best Troll Evar! ^  :lol
(I'm so easy)




Screenwriter admitted that U-571 distorted history.
"It was a distortion, a mercenary decision to create this parallel history in order to drive the movie for an American audience."

I'm guessing you may be of the 'Movies are real' fraternity

The first capture of a Naval Enigma machine from a U-boat was made on the 9th of May 1941, by HMS Bulldog of the Royal Navy. The U-boat was U-110.
In 1942, U-559 was seized, capturing additional Enigma codebooks. Captured codebooks provided vital knowlage to the British cryptographers of the code-breaking centre at Bletchley Park.
The real U-571, was sunk on the 28th of January 1944, west of Ireland by the Aussies.

 :old:  :neener:

Whatever you do don't mention how the somali warlords defeated the USA in Mogadishu... it really seems to get the yanks going ;)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Tom5572 on February 19, 2012, 03:20:50 AM
Whatever you do don't mention how the somali warlords defeated the USA in Mogadishu... it really seems to get the yanks going ;)

Was it the Warlords or the CinC?
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: VonMessa on February 19, 2012, 04:25:24 AM
Was it the Warlords or the CinC?

 :devil
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Rich52 on February 19, 2012, 09:56:39 AM
Whatever you do don't mention how the somali warlords defeated the USA in Mogadishu... it really seems to get the yanks going ;)

Its hard to call it "defeated" when we didnt want it in the first place, kilt about 1,000 for every one we lost, and then just said "frack it" and left them to complete their own genocide. It was a good lesson even for the liberals about the United nations however, if they ever get smart enough to learn about it. Good ole
United Nations Security Council Resolution 837.

Then again how many libs allow their kids to join the military? Billy Klinton, another great military mind.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Slade on February 19, 2012, 12:15:35 PM
Quote
you can take control of the CV and then Jump to another country and retain control???

This has been discussed.  All the CV related exploits for country jumpers.  One suggestion was to not allow someone who has newly jumped country to take control of a CV for 24 hours.  

In one case in point, one was jumping country and leading CVs on sure course to destruction, i.e. coordinated CV stealing and bomber hits (no turning etc.) via originating squadies in bombers and the like.  A few times in succession.

+1 to remedying CV exploits!!!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Reaper90 on February 19, 2012, 12:49:48 PM
Whatever you do don't mention how the somali warlords defeated the USA in Mogadishu... it really seems to get the yanks going ;)

And this statement is another good example of how ignorance and stupidity will forever be part of humanity.

Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: hotard on February 19, 2012, 01:08:52 PM
as for the KN guys that kind of "it doesn't matter attitude" is what got Germany into deep dudu.   Would you cross the road if you saw an old granny getting mugged?  

This is a case of un-sporting conduct by a villainous chief and should be dealt with forthwith!!

Perd is in a tough spot on this one since one of his squaddies, DerJude to be specific  does the same thing on a regular basis. He will switch sides.. in search of cheap perk rides, but while doing that has a regular habbit of taking control of bish cv's and heading them straight for distruction. So far as I know he doesn't broadcast the cv's location, but then again he doesn't have to as he sends it on a course guarenteed to get it spotted and sunk.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Vulcan on February 19, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
And this statement is another good example of how ignorance and stupidity will forever be part of humanity.



Excuse me? I'm quite well informed on the subject - I know lots of somali taxi drivers you know.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: kilo2 on February 19, 2012, 01:33:27 PM
Perd is in a tough spot on this one since one of his squaddies, DerJude to be specific  does the same thing on a regular basis. He will switch sides.. in search of cheap perk rides, but while doing that has a regular habbit of taking control of bish cv's and heading them straight for distruction. So far as I know he doesn't broadcast the cv's location, but then again he doesn't have to as he sends it on a course guarenteed to get it spotted and sunk.

God forbid they get used for combat.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: hotard on February 19, 2012, 01:40:23 PM
God forbid they get used for combat.

Heck yes use them for combat.. but neither you nor I are stupid enough not to realize when a CV is being mis-handled either through ignorance or complicity.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Reaper90 on February 19, 2012, 02:34:41 PM
Excuse me? I'm quite well informed on the subject - I know lots of somali taxi drivers you know.

uhhhh, OK.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 19, 2012, 02:45:17 PM
uhhhh, OK.

Meanwhile...
http://www.wimp.com/pizzaindia/
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Reaper90 on February 19, 2012, 04:07:43 PM
Meanwhile...
http://www.wimp.com/pizzaindia/

Meh. Pizza Hut got nothing on the Warriors of Goja.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nJUckdRKtEM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nJUckdRKtEM)

 :bolt:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Der Jude on February 21, 2012, 06:38:23 AM
Perd is in a tough spot on this one since one of his squaddies, DerJude to be specific  does the same thing on a regular basis. He will switch sides.. in search of cheap perk rides, but while doing that has a regular habbit of taking control of bish cv's and heading them straight for distruction. So far as I know he doesn't broadcast the cv's location, but then again he doesn't have to as he sends it on a course guarenteed to get it spotted and sunk.

Dear Aces High participants,

According to Hitechs rules of the game, he with the highest rank controls the CV. Speculate all you want about what I'm thinking because it doesnt matter as long as this rule is in place. It's just cartoons anyway, but people get soooo mad about it. I'm all about "der kampf", the fight. I could care less about bases, patriotism, your six, Rule #6, and CV's. MA is just practice for events to me. So I'll continue to do what I want with them if rank allows it, and theres not a thing you all can do about it.

Sincerely, Hauptmann Jude :banana:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Guppy35 on February 21, 2012, 09:28:25 AM
Dear Aces High participants,

According to Hitechs rules of the game, he with the highest rank controls the CV. Speculate all you want about what I'm thinking because it doesnt matter as long as this rule is in place. It's just cartoons anyway, but people get soooo mad about it. I'm all about "der kampf", the fight. I could care less about bases, patriotism, your six, Rule #6, and CV's. MA is just practice for events to me. So I'll continue to do what I want with them if rank allows it, and theres not a thing you all can do about it.

Sincerely, Hauptmann Jude :banana:

Hate to say it, but if that's what you are doing with CVs, you aren't all about the fight.  Anything but all about the fight.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Google on February 21, 2012, 10:12:21 AM
I like pickle chips..

Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: 1Boner on February 21, 2012, 10:35:53 AM
Dear Aces High participants,

According to Hitechs rules of the game, he with the highest rank controls the CV. Speculate all you want about what I'm thinking because it doesnt matter as long as this rule is in place. It's just cartoons anyway, but people get soooo mad about it. I'm all about "der kampf", the fight. I could care less about bases, patriotism, your six, Rule #6, and CV's. MA is just practice for events to me. So I'll continue to do what I want with them if rank allows it, and theres not a thing you all can do about it.

Sincerely, Hauptmann Jude :banana:

Good reason for implementing the "you must be ON the CV to have control of the CV" rule.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 21, 2012, 11:09:36 AM
Dear Aces High participants,

According to Hitechs rules of the game, he with the highest rank controls the CV. Speculate all you want about what I'm thinking because it doesnt matter as long as this rule is in place. It's just cartoons anyway, but people get soooo mad about it. I'm all about "der kampf", the fight. I could care less about bases, patriotism, your six, Rule #6, and CV's. MA is just practice for events to me. So I'll continue to do what I want with them if rank allows it, and theres not a thing you all can do about it.

Sincerely, Hauptmann Jude :banana:

Good reason for proper parenting...This child needed to be whipped.  Petulant child routine much? :rofl
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: kilo2 on February 21, 2012, 01:15:24 PM
Hate to say it, but if that's what you are doing with CVs, you aren't all about the fight.  Anything but all about the fight.

Do tell what you mean. Taking cvs out of hiding to a base is not about the fight?

Your aces high view is skewed.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Guppy35 on February 21, 2012, 01:35:24 PM
His message seemed clear.  I do what I want with little thought to anyone else.

If he truly means his goal is about the fight then say it.  He could easily have said that if he controls a CV he will bring it to a spot in hopes of creating a fight. 

Of course that is not what he said and you and I both know it.

Nothing skewed about my view  :aok
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: kilo2 on February 21, 2012, 01:49:13 PM
His message seemed clear.  I do what I want with little thought to anyone else.

If he truly means his goal is about the fight then say it.  He could easily have said that if he controls a CV he will bring it to a spot in hopes of creating a fight.  

Of course that is not what he said and you and I both know it.

Nothing skewed about my view  :aok

Well honesty is the best policy. I do what I want in game I am sure you do as well.

The incident that led to this line of discussion was what I just described. Jude drove the cv from hiding to a fight.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Shuffler on February 21, 2012, 04:26:40 PM
Well honesty is the best policy. I do what I want in game I am sure you do as well.

The incident that led to this line of discussion was what I just described. Jude drove the cv from hiding to a fight.

Was he on the Cv fighting?  Most will take a dim view of everything derjude does because of his poor outlook in the arena. It would be interesting to know if he was on the cv fighting or off somewhere spewing his crap.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: kilo2 on February 21, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Was he on the Cv fighting?  Most will take a dim view of everything derjude does because of his poor outlook in the arena. It would be interesting to know if he was on the cv fighting or off somewhere spewing his crap.

I don't know.

Some of you take stuff in game entirely too seriously.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: waystin2 on February 21, 2012, 05:18:29 PM
Was he on the Cv fighting?  Most will take a dim view of everything derjude does because of his poor outlook in the arena. It would be interesting to know if he was on the cv fighting or off somewhere spewing his crap.

DING DING   :aok
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: perdue3 on February 21, 2012, 06:03:38 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFyQH8-FHeSMH-Uv0-eEEn6Z9X6_-u6cQ9BR8oeDQn_CdTIySz)

(http://w23.indonetwork.co.id/pdimage/94/1607594_wetfloor.jpg)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Der Jude on February 21, 2012, 06:06:51 PM
i was there. got some good kills on bombers because of the boat. yup :banana:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Melvin on February 21, 2012, 06:10:13 PM
i was there. got some good kills on bombers because of the boat. yup :banana:

What's all this now?

A CAP over the CV?

LUDICROUS!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: perdue3 on February 21, 2012, 06:50:53 PM
Let me clear it up for those who are confused.

CV = mobile furball
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Shuffler on February 21, 2012, 08:40:19 PM
I don't know.

Some of you take stuff in game entirely too seriously.

Ahh ok so you were just speculating/guessing. ok

Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: kilo2 on February 21, 2012, 08:51:39 PM
Ahh ok so you were just speculating/guessing. ok



Not on what I said, no I was not guessing. I didn't know the answer to your question. The answer came from Jude though, he was there.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Guppy35 on February 21, 2012, 09:31:37 PM
Well honesty is the best policy. I do what I want in game I am sure you do as well.

The incident that led to this line of discussion was what I just described. Jude drove the cv from hiding to a fight.

I wish he'd have just said that then.  I have no problem with that at all.  Just not that tough to say it straight.

As for doing what I want in game, sure I do, but always remembering I'm sharing the game with other folks.  It's why I asked both you and Perd if you wanted help before dropping in on your fights the other night.   I figure it's not my place to steal your fight just cause it would be an easy kill.  I figure it's common courtesy.   Because it's a game, being aware of the other players isn't such a bad deal.

DerJude presented himself as one who doesn't care one way or the other.  That's not the same thing.  Again if that's not what he wanted folks to see, saying it straight would have been the way to go.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Der Jude on February 21, 2012, 10:28:07 PM
it wouldnt matter how i said it. you and others would find something wrong with it, which i said. i dont care
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Guppy35 on February 21, 2012, 10:48:49 PM
it wouldnt matter how i said it. you and others would find something wrong with it, which i said. i dont care

If you say it straight, you say it straight.  Don't take this wrong, but you aren't that big of a deal for me to look for a reason to criticize you unless it's warranted.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Der Jude on February 22, 2012, 03:02:47 AM
yeah not sure why u keep using "straight". Not all of us went to all the English classes in high school so just deal with it. I'll just keep the boats straight into wherever I choose to put em.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: kilo2 on February 22, 2012, 03:44:01 AM
yeah not sure why u keep using "straight". Not all of us went to all the English classes in high school so just deal with it. I'll just keep the boats straight into wherever I choose to put em.
:rofl
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: VonMessa on February 22, 2012, 08:24:30 AM
Perd is in a tough spot on this one since one of his squaddies, DerJude to be specific  does the same thing on a regular basis. He will switch sides.. in search of cheap perk rides, but while doing that has a regular habbit of taking control of bish cv's and heading them straight for distruction. So far as I know he doesn't broadcast the cv's location, but then again he doesn't have to as he sends it on a course guarenteed to get it spotted and sunk.

I've seen him control CV's of every country

An obtuse and broadly generalizing phrase the meaning and outcome of which is in direct proportion to how well players are willing to defend the fleet.  If some folks do not agree on the course of the fleet and refuse to help utilize it for offense or be involved in the defense of it, then the easiest and most common cop-out is "You sent it to be destroyed".  I rarely witness anyone admitting the fact of "We failed to defend it fiercely enough"

Speculation.  Unless, of course, you can prove this with evidence to the fact

In fact, this "course" is probably used because of the following:

Here is an equation to solve for below:    y = mx + b (or, in other words, the shortest distance between two point is a straight line)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/distance.gif)
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 22, 2012, 08:29:01 AM
yeah not sure why u keep using "straight". Not all of us went to all the English classes in high school so just deal with it. I'll just keep the boats straight into wherever I choose to put em.

Take a break Jude....you don't have to be a dick everyday! lol
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Guppy35 on February 22, 2012, 08:59:02 AM
yeah not sure why u keep using "straight". Not all of us went to all the English classes in high school so just deal with it. I'll just keep the boats straight into wherever I choose to put em.

LOL someone needs a nap.  I'm sure we'll all cope Jude.  I hope the persecution complex goes away soon for ya though.  Might enjoy the game a bit more.  :aok
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: perdue3 on February 22, 2012, 09:47:56 AM
I've seen him control CV's of every country

An obtuse and broadly generalizing phrase the meaning and outcome of which is in direct proportion to how well players are willing to defend the fleet.  If some folks do not agree on the course of the fleet and refuse to help utilize it for offense or be involved in the defense of it, then the easiest and most common cop-out is "You sent it to be destroyed".  I rarely witness anyone admitting the fact of "We failed to defend it fiercely enough"

Speculation.  Unless, of course, you can prove this with evidence to the fact

In fact, this "course" is probably used because of the following:

Here is an equation to solve for below:    y = mx + b (or, in other words, the shortest distance between two point is a straight line)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/distance.gif)

Muahaha. I heart You Von.

This whole thread could be summed up by this:

Do you outrank DerJude? No.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: LCADolby on February 22, 2012, 02:03:49 PM
DerJude and CV's.

 :noid

Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Shuffler on February 22, 2012, 02:04:35 PM
Some won't be missed when they leave the game.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 22, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
It makes me laugh when pilots claim to play for nothing but "The Fight™" flying around the furball in a Me 262 picking others that are fighting, right DerJude?

ack-ack
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: kilo2 on February 22, 2012, 02:10:59 PM
Some won't be missed when they leave the game.

Yeah when do you plan to leave again?

Aces High is serious business. :banana:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: perdue3 on February 22, 2012, 03:07:48 PM
It makes me laugh when pilots claim to play for nothing but "The Fight™" flying around the furball in a Me 262 picking others that are fighting, right DerJude?

ack-ack

He is in Kommando Nowotny...I love good fights and I love even furballs. I will be less angry if a 262 picks me whist in a 1v1 than if a 51, 47, 38, etc. pick me.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 22, 2012, 03:49:24 PM
He is in Kommando Nowotny...I love good fights and I love even furballs. I will be less angry if a 262 picks me whist in a 1v1 than if a 51, 47, 38, etc. pick me.

It is just curious as to why someone who claims to "live for The Fight™" would readily fly a Me 262 on the edge of a furball and only pick those that are engaged with other bandits.  Kind of the antithesis of "living for The Fight™".


ack-ack
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: kilo2 on February 22, 2012, 04:29:56 PM
It is just curious as to why someone who claims to "live for The Fight™" would readily fly a Me 262 on the edge of a furball and only pick those that are engaged with other bandits.  Kind of the antithesis of "living for The Fight™".


ack-ack

It is not all or nothing.



Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Shuffler on February 22, 2012, 04:34:24 PM
Yeah when do you plan to leave again?

Aces High is serious business. :banana:

Have not left... and now at least 2 wont be missed.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: kilo2 on February 22, 2012, 04:40:33 PM
Have not left... and now at least 2 wont be missed.

I guess this means you won't be my facebook friend.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Melvin on February 22, 2012, 06:07:03 PM

An obtuse and broadly generalizing phrase the meaning and outcome of which is in direct proportion to how well players are willing to defend the fleet.  If some folks do not agree on the course of the fleet and refuse to help utilize it for offense or be involved in the defense of it, then the easiest and most common cop-out is "You sent it to be destroyed".  I rarely witness anyone admitting the fact of "We failed to defend it fiercely enough"



Well said.   :aok




It makes me laugh when pilots claim to play for nothing but "The Fight™" flying around the furball in a Me 262 picking others that are fighting



Interesting perspective.  :uhoh
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: SunBat on February 22, 2012, 06:37:17 PM
It makes me laugh when pilots claim to play for nothing but "The Fight™" flying around the furball in a Me 262 picking others that are fighting, right DerJude?

ack-ack

Those who buzz around over the furball with skirts bunched poised to run to ack should be loath to speak as well...  :salute
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: perdue3 on February 22, 2012, 06:41:19 PM
Have not left... and now at least 3 wont be missed.

Ah, much better.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: SunBat on February 22, 2012, 06:45:35 PM
Dear Aces High participants,

According to Hitechs rules of the game, he with the highest rank controls the CV. Speculate all you want about what I'm thinking because it doesnt matter as long as this rule is in place. It's just cartoons anyway, but people get soooo mad about it. I'm all about "der kampf", the fight. I could care less about bases, patriotism, your six, Rule #6, and CV's. MA is just practice for events to me. So I'll continue to do what I want with them if rank allows it, and theres not a thing you all can do about it.

Sincerely, Hauptmann Jude :banana:

Sounds reasonable to me.

Everyone ruins the game for somebody every time they win a little victory for themselves. You holier than thou folks always intrigue me with your moral relativism. Why is his getting the CV into a fight if even to irritate others any different than the those who shut down tank town, shoot down a goon, or fly low and slow to send someone to the tower?  
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: perdue3 on February 22, 2012, 06:50:07 PM
Sounds reasonable to me.

Everyone ruins the game for somebody every time they win a little victory for themselves. You holier than thou folks always intrigue me with your moral relativism. Why is his getting the CV into a fight if even to irritate others any different than the those who shut down tank town, shoot down a goon, or fly low and slow to send someone to the tower?  

He's sane! Had me fooled SunBat.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Changeup on February 22, 2012, 10:31:55 PM
He's sane! Had me fooled SunBat.

Hook is set.... Now, cross his eyes!
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Der Jude on February 24, 2012, 04:07:02 AM
Getting killed by my Me-262 is as close to an honorable death as any of you are gonna get. Last i checked i was in a 262 squad so guess ill be in one often. :banana: As for the persecution complex...ich bin der jude.
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Tilt on February 24, 2012, 04:51:14 AM
Stalin had every intention of using poland as a jumping point into Europe once his military was stable enough.

LOL history rewritten.......... :confused:
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Debrody on February 24, 2012, 07:11:11 AM
Get off from Der Jude.
Yes, he is jumping countries, always on the low numbers side. Just like what i did before the 12 hours bull-shizz.
Yes, he takes control over hidden CVs, sends them towards an enemy base then ups from it, creating an intense furball, what is more fun for him that augering from 15k trying to drop a VH. Just like for me.
But NO, he never sends a CV to an enemy base then switches sides only to sink it. He is no vdallas or manawoman.
If he sees a horde, YES, he will up a jet and will kill as many as he can. But for the love of the God, in an 1v1, 2v2, 5v5, he will FIGHT You instead of running to ack and coming back at 20k with 10 friends. Same what i like to do.
In the KN we were often on different fights and often had damn good fights against each other, so if someone, i might know him. He never HOs, never jumps into a 2v1 as a 3rd, he will never run from an even matchup.
Bite him hes the EVIL LMFAO   doh!

<S> Jonah
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: Der Jude on February 24, 2012, 11:07:31 AM
Get off from Der Jude.
Yes, he is jumping countries, always on the low numbers side. Just like what i did before the 12 hours bull-shizz.
Yes, he takes control over hidden CVs, sends them towards an enemy base then ups from it, creating an intense furball, what is more fun for him that augering from 15k trying to drop a VH. Just like for me.
But NO, he never sends a CV to an enemy base then switches sides only to sink it. He is no vdallas or manawoman.
If he sees a horde, YES, he will up a jet and will kill as many as he can. But for the love of the God, in an 1v1, 2v2, 5v5, he will FIGHT You instead of running to ack and coming back at 20k with 10 friends. Same what i like to do.
In the KN we were often on different fights and often had damn good fights against each other, so if someone, i might know him. He never HOs, never jumps into a 2v1 as a 3rd, he will never run from an even matchup.
Bite him hes the EVIL LMFAO   doh!

<S> Jonah

i try
Title: Re: So what is this??
Post by: W7LPNRICK on March 11, 2012, 11:01:16 AM
:devil

It's called the Clinton retreat....Hmm no oil threatened here? Screw it!  :huh