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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BowHTR on April 03, 2012, 08:43:28 PM
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Tell us what you really think of the DEVILS=v=BRIGADE.
I believe the DEVILS=v=BRIGADE is a group of players that join together for the enjoyment of WWII Aviation and ground warfare.
Lets the whines/flames commence...
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Honestly there the best squad in the game. The own The Few who was previously the best.
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They pad my score very nicely
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They are dedicated to creating a target rich environment. I approve. :salute
:devil
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bot boys :old:
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bot boys :old:
SYNTAX ERROR
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The survival of the AH world depends on them.
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They know how to work together to capture bases........and that is just about it. :salute
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We should all aspire to play the game as they do :aok
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We should all aspire to play the game as they do :aok
FB
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http://devilsvbrigade.forumshome.com/t16-vtard-haters
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I couldn't play the game the way they do, it would bore me to tears but that is entirely their choice. Except for a certain PM warrior, I don't have a problem with any of them.
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Tell us what you really think of the DEVILS=v=BRIGADE.
No.
But, I think lowly of people who ask internet folk questions like that.
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Don't think I ever fought a vDude 1v1, or if I did , it wasn't exciting enough for me to remember.
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They're just nifty.
<----hands CorkyJr the crack pipe back. :banana:
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No.
But, I think lowly of people who ask internet folk questions like that.
I think lowly of those who reply to topics with a reply that is not positive.
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I think lowly of those who reply to topics with a reply that is not positive.
I positivley believe that for the safety of those around you; you guys should never ever attempt to reproduce.
Positive enough
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I think lowly of those who reply to topics with a reply that is not positive.
So unless we agree with you, our opinion isn't valid? :headscratch:
I'm just saying. I don't want to comment on a topic like this, they are immature. But my previous statement applies anywhere.
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Tell us what you really think of the DEVILS=v=BRIGADE.
I believe the DEVILS=v=BRIGADE is a group of players that join together for the enjoyment of WWII Aviation and ground warfare.
Lets the whines/flames commence...
They provide me with an endless amount of targets, and although they dont put up much of a fight, they will rarely run. They usually stay over a target till they die or capture a base. Personally, most of them seem like nice guys, save for their fearless leader who has more than once PM'd me with profanity laced tirades. Its been a while since thats happend so maybe he has calmed down a bit. I really dont understand the enjoyment they get out of playing the way they do, but whatever....i enjoy flying into their hordes and seeing how many i can get.
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So unless we agree with you, our opinion isn't valid? :headscratch:
I'm just saying. I don't want to comment on a topic like this, they are immature. But my previous statement applies anywhere.
Why post if it isn't in a positive manner? When you were raised I'm sure your parents told you that if you don't have anything nice to say they don't say anything at all.
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Why post if it isn't in a positive manner? When you were raised I'm sure your parents told you that if you don't have anything nice to say they don't say anything at all.
Why did you ask if you didn't want a response? I find it hard to believe that the squad is so insecure that they need others to tell them how wonderful they are. It is just a game after all.
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He is more of an attention who-re then i am... :rofl
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Why did you ask if you didn't want a response? I find it hard to believe that the squad is so insecure that they need others to tell them how wonderful they are. It is just a game after all.
The topic was created out of sarcasm. I could really care less what you think about us. However we don't talk trash about anyone and their squad. I enjoy reading the bashings and all the posts about how the brigade failed to do something. The topic was purely sarcasm. Yes, it is a game. But why do people let a game get to them so much? Why do people let one squad get to them? I think it is quite funny. It does get annoying that there is almost no truth to 90% of the posts about us tho.
So just for the record hypotheses, how much do you like us? You can do it on a scale of 1-10 if you want.
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He is more of an attention who-re then i am... :rofl
Yeah I am. I'm gonna go start another thread. Will you follow me and post in that one too?
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Yeah I am. I'm gonna go start another thread. Will you follow me and post in that one too?
yes, please do! start a thread in honor of me... :banana:
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yes, please do! start a thread in honor of me... :banana:
Your my role model
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The topic was created out of sarcasm. I could really care less what you think about us. However we don't talk trash about anyone and their squad. I enjoy reading the bashings and all the posts about how the brigade failed to do something. The topic was purely sarcasm. Yes, it is a game. But why do people let a game get to them so much? Why do people let one squad get to them? I think it is quite funny. It does get annoying that there is almost no truth to 90% of the posts about us tho.
So just for the record hypotheses, how much do you like us? You can do it on a scale of 1-10 if you want.
Ahh, so responding with sarcasm in return was the wrong thing to do? :)
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:noid :noid :noid :noid Its the Cops.....lol :noid :noid :noid
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Ahh, so responding with sarcasm in return was the wrong thing to do? :)
Guppy, be can't have sarcasm. This is a serious topic. This is not for child's play. Peoples online life are at risk.
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:noid :noid :noid :noid Its the Cops.....lol :noid :noid :noid
Good call dads, where are they? :noid :noid :noid
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well considering that hitech is tired of personal attacks. I would rather not risk getting a time off from bb. their 15 bucks if they want to go after buildings then go for it. what I find really funny is how some of the people that post how they hate hordes, routinely fly not with them but they stay close to them, now that I find funny.
semp
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Why post if it isn't in a positive manner? When you were raised I'm sure your parents told you that if you don't have anything nice to say they don't say anything at all.
:rock
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Semp, its ok. We know that Dallas is your FPH.
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This has See Rule #4 written all over it and maybe even a closure due to seeing the types of posted responses. That said, I've flown on all sides (with various shades or whatever), with a lot of groups and they all have their own different styles period. I say, whatever works for them is fine for them, let them do it. Salute to those who lead the squads (whomever they are) for gathering a group of individuals up from around the world to get on this game and have fun, and sometimes even form strong bonds of friendships that last lengthy times. Do what you do with your $14.95 and let the rest fall off your back. If you don't like particular gameplay, there is always other arenas and activities or just a simple alt f4 could suffice.
Come try the Aces High Extreme Air Racing League on Tuesday nights. We fly solo or as squads of up to 6. Just another example of some fun to be had on this game.
:cheers: :salute :old: :bolt:
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If they're having fun, good for them. Aside from an isolated incident that was very minor, my contact with individual members of the V's has been positive. They seem like a friendly bunch.
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I don't see why there would be any See rule #4. Everyone is minding their own and behaving. It is just a conversation piece. Nothing for anyone to get all up tight about.
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This has See Rule #4 written all over it and maybe even a closure due to seeing the types of posted responses. That said, I've flown on all sides (with various shades or whatever), with a lot of groups and they all have their own different styles period. I say, whatever works for them is fine for them, let them do it. Salute to those who lead the squads (whomever they are) for gathering a group of individuals up from around the world to get on this game and have fun, and sometimes even form strong bonds of friendships that last lengthy times. Do what you do with your $14.95 and let the rest fall off your back. If you don't like particular gameplay, there is always other arenas and activities or just a simple alt f4 could suffice.
Come try the Aces High Extreme Air Racing League on Tuesday nights. We fly solo or as squads of up to 6. Just another example of some fun to be had on this game.
:cheers: :salute :old: :bolt:
:salute
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Semp, its ok. We know that Dallas is your FPH.
I dont have his name tatood on my arm like you do.
semp
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I dont have his name tatood on my arm like you do.
semp
Ohh, its not tattooed on my arm either. It may or may not be tattooed elsewhere on my body though.
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Trooper please don't tell me you got that vDALLAS tramp stamp you were saying would look so cool. I mean it's ok that I have one that reads 'horde' but that's from a different game.
Hopefully I'll be able to get some pictures posted of the heavy cruiser getting done across my belly. I need a really tough sounding caption for it like 'master of land mode' or 'town gun counter'. Something along those lines.
Any suggestions?
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Any suggestions?
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Step 1
Get a shade acct and be sure not to tell your CO in fear of you getting 50 lashes for being a traitor. Then dedicate some time defending agianst them ( month or so )
Step 2
Come back and tell us what you think.
During this time, look for the Dora on the outskirts of the horde and attack it. I can bet when your on his six that you will be utterly baffled at the stick stirring wondering if this opponent is the true genius of ACM or is he practicing to make a meringue
In all seriousness.. only people that REALLY care are the ones that are glued to this game 24/7. I just think there is soooo much more to this game than how they play it which is what I found out when I left the squad. Perhaps thats the reason of the high turnover rate within. But if your having fun...guess thats all that matters
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Trooper please don't tell me you got that vDALLAS tramp stamp you were saying would look so cool. I mean it's ok that I have one that reads 'horde' but that's from a different game.
Hopefully I'll be able to get some pictures posted of the heavy cruiser getting done across my belly. I need a really tough sounding caption for it like 'master of land mode' or 'town gun counter'. Something along those lines.
Any suggestions?
I think it looks rather good. I'll have to make an appointment with ink for the next one. Id like to get full sleeves of the honorary code for the brigade.
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Coombz that might be ok for Sarah, but I've met cats and dogs that are smarter than Corey and Trevor. In fact most cats and dogs are smarter than Corey and Trevor.
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Step 1
Get a shade acct and be sure not to tell your CO in fear of you getting 50 lashes for being a traitor. Then dedicate some time defending agianst them ( month or so )
Step 2
Come back and tell us what you think.
During this time, look for the Dora on the outskirts of the horde and attack it. I can bet when your on his six that you will be utterly baffled at the stick stirring wondering if this opponent is the true genius of ACM or is he practicing to make a meringue
In all seriousness.. only people that REALLY care are the ones that are glued to this game 24/7. I just think there is soooo much more to this game than how they play it which is what I found out when I left the squad. Perhaps thats the reason of the high turnover rate within. But if your having fun...guess thats all that matters
I think the squad has changed a lot since you left. We do more than just take bases now a days. We do enjoy taking turns signing into Dallas' name and talkin trash to everyone. See Dallas isn't an actual person. Dallas is a shade name for the entire squad. Ever notice Dallas and vbobo sound almost identical?
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Please don't start confusing me and dallas. It's bad enough when I fly as a guest with another squad and if it's my first time on their vox someone always asks "dallas did you change your name?"
As far as fighting the Dora... well I think what makes the Dora so dull is that if you're going to exploit its strenghts, it's pretty much just like these speed machines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG2OcW_Hwkg
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I think the squad has changed a lot since you left.
Nope..hasnt changed one bit
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Nope..hasnt changed one bit
You would have to fly with us to know. I would venture to say we have changed a lot in the last year. It's not so much about takin bases. We do a large varity of things.
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We do enjoy taking turns signing into Dallas' name
isn't that illegal??
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They pad my score very nicely
Yes. They provide endless opp or tunity to get many kill.
DEVILS=v=BRIGADE :salute
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AH is a society in and upon itself. The "V" guys have their place in that society.
Someone has to make up the lower 50%.
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I think v guys ought to change countries and let the bish enjoy some of the skill that makes you such a fine group of players. Honestly, share your "fun" with someone else. It's been too long for nits and rooks to enjoy it exclusively. IMHO.
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Please don't start confusing me and dallas. It's bad enough when I fly as a guest with another squad and if it's my first time on their vox someone always asks "dallas did you change your name?"
As far as fighting the Dora... well I think what makes the Dora so dull is that if you're going to exploit its strenghts, it's pretty much just like these speed machines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG2OcW_Hwkg
(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/samadamsalliance/UncleSamYou.png)
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see Rule#4 :rock :old:
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Tell us what you really think of the DEVILS=v=BRIGADE.
I believe the DEVILS=v=BRIGADE is a group of players that join together for the enjoyment of WWII Aviation and ground warfare.
Lets the whines/flames commence...
I belive spam bots work well. its something along the lines of "******VDALLAS MISSON UP**********
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I think v guys ought to change countries and let the bish enjoy some of the skill that makes you such a fine group of players. Honestly, share your "fun" with someone else. It's been too long for nits and rooks to enjoy it exclusively. IMHO.
noooooooooooooooooooooo Helbent noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo ! :uhoh
Pay no attention to what Helbent said. Just forget you even saw his post. You are needed right where you are. Don't go anywhere. Stay there. Sit. At ease. Standyby. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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noooooooooooooooooooooo Helbent noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo ! :uhoh
Pay no attention to what Helbent said. Just forget you even saw his post. You are needed right where you are. Don't go anywhere. Stay there. Sit. At ease. Standyby. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The rooks have their own V-Guys now that will lay waste to any base with their b-17's and 20 peeeeeeeeeee 51's
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The rooks have their own V-Guys now that will lay waste to any base with their b-17's and 20 peeeeeeeeeee 51's
Yeah..... and they don't bomb the tower or indestructible buildings or auger into their own bomb craters either. :rock
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Bish- vJokersChemist
Rooks- Devil Dogs
Knights- Freebirds/Jayro the Horde Master
No insults meant, just how I see the "missions planners" of each countries, the big ones.
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We do enjoy taking turns signing into Dallas' name and talkin trash to everyone.
Pretty sure that that would be a violation of the Terms of Service.
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C'mon Dave man. You don't know his statement was designed for the sole purpose to get a heated response? This whole thread is for that purpose? ;) FiveO better stick to traffic tickets because the sting operation ain't getting the bills paid.
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C'mon Dave man. You don't know his statement was designed for the sole purpose to get a heated response? This whole thread is for that purpose? ;) FiveO better stick to traffic tickets because the sting operation ain't getting the bills paid.
:rofl
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All static targets whine on BBS threads.
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C'mon Dave man. You don't know his statement was designed for the sole purpose to get a heated response?
Obviously.
I hope that my pointing out the ToS violation wasn't viewed as heated. Personally, I would agree that for the most part the vGuys aren't the biggest part of the horde problem. On the Bishops side, the Alchemists (Chuwie) are the real horde masters.
I have always believed that the base taking squads have an important place in the Aces High ecology. The base rollers are the first place of refuge for a high percentage of the brand new players. The base takers are the ones posting missions and welcoming all who wish to participate to join in on their fun. Many of you guys berating the hordes are the same guys who continually beat down new players, both in the sky and via ch200 or even worse, private message. It is only natural that a new player, who has been getting his butt handed to him repeatedly, would seek refuge in these missions. I often wonder how the game would change if the non base rolling squads went out of their way to take as many new guys under their wing as possible. What if The Muppets or The Few (or whoever) was posting up missions frequently, advertising them, filling them with new guys, and accomplishing a goal. Imagine the time a mission commander has during climbout, to talk with the guys in the mission. To answer questions. To teach another way to take bases, other then overwhelming force. The opportunity to shape the new players early in their AH career is there. Until now, the community seems to be perfectly willing to let squads like the Alchemists, or Devils Brigade, (insert whatever base rolling squad you like or dislike).
The missions give the new player a way to feel successful in this very steep learning curve game. Also, the contact with other players (many of whom are at a similar noob skill level), gives the new guys a way to make contact with other players more on their level. A way to bond with others who are like them. This also serves to make these new guys feel like they are part of something and not just additional fodder for the experten lurking over head in their K4s and LAs, or griefing them in 262s.
Ideally, these new players will spend a period of time in the base rolling squad, learning the basic mechanics of the game. Giving them just enough of a taste of success in the Aces High world that they eventually begin to seek out more. Eventually, hopefully, they realize that if they are ever going to truly become skilled pilots they are going to have to branch out and seek out training that the base rolling squad cannot or will not provide.
They hopefully discover that constantly flying in a cloud of friendly aircraft does not present the challenge and experience necessary to make significant improvement.
It is my hope, that squads like Devils Brigade, understand what their place really is in the ecology of the game. Accept their role, enjoying the playstyle that they have chosen. But always remembering that they should be helping the newer guys to truly grow in abilities. Whether that means providing training as the new guys seek it, or by encouraging the new guys to spread their wings and leave the nest that the horde truly is, striking out on their own in search of the training and experience that they crave.
It is also my hope that the folks who so dislike the turn towards hording that the game seems to have taken, will take this as a clarion call to adopt a few new guys. Get ahold of them before the hordes do. Teach them to fish so that they may feed themselves one day, rather the allowing them to rely on the socialist horde for their every meal.
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Very good post Dave. :aok
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My experiences with you guys: nice guys, whenever I've had fights, sometimes chatting with a few of you afterwards. I've flown on Bish and watched your squad capture a base. It's not my idea of fun, simply because the numbers are too lopsided, but it's you guys doing what you like to do.
I do wish that some of your squad would stop being the 4th or 5th person to pile onto me in a fight though.
And finally, only one person in your squad has ever been a jerk towards me. Wonder who? lol
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It is my hope, that squads like Devils Brigade, understand what their place really is in the ecology of the game. Accept their role, enjoying the playstyle that they have chosen. But always remembering that they should be helping the newer guys to truly grow in abilities. Whether that means providing training as the new guys seek it, or by encouraging the new guys to spread their wings and leave the nest that the horde truly is, striking out on their own in search of the training and experience that they crave.
It is also my hope that the folks who so dislike the turn towards hording that the game seems to have taken, will take this as a clarion call to adopt a few new guys. Get ahold of them before the hordes do. Teach them to fish so that they may feed themselves one day, rather the allowing them to rely on the socialist horde for their every meal.
Devils doesn't train players, however it's the players reality that he must choose, if he wants to attack static targets all day and pay $15 so be it, nobody will complain. However like all players you have to decide what do you want to do with your time, for example vBobo wants to check out FSO - he's more then welcome to fly with us to get a taste of FSO and a different squad setting. He might enjoy it or he might down right reject the idea.
I got tired of the typical base attacking years ago, its pretty boring really - back in the old days you took up a few 110s and N1ks and blow up a town with 6-7 guys and a goon pilot. I don't get the fun of flattening a base with over 20+, then again its suitable to some players so why not?
Some will get eager to be dogfighters, others tankers - only way to find out is to have fun and learn.
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Devils doesn't train players, however it's the players reality that he must choose, if he wants to attack static targets all day and pay $15 so be it, nobody will complain. However like all players you have to decide what do you want to do with your time
Well, I hope that you are at least partially wrong. I don't know if the Devils Brigade offers any training or not. I hope that they offer at least a little. They certainly have a fantastic jabo trainer in their ranks, Jarbo.
I agree that players must choose their reality, but we as a community could (if we really wanted to) do a lot more to guide new players away from the security blanket that the horde is and more towards the exciting world of a good dog fight.
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I do wish that some of your squad would stop being the 4th or 5th person to pile onto me in a fight though.
Honestly Mir can you expect anything diff in the MA?
Maybe I dont understand what/or why some of you dislike what they do but why put yourself in that position to be ganged by them?
I had some nice fights with Vguys the other day and yes I had to chase a few of them down but hey who doesnt run in the MA.
I stand behind them and encourage them to provide more targets more often. :rock :salute
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How many years does it take to learn the "basic mechanics" of the game? Should be enough by now, but I geuss it'll take you longer if all you do is jabo ack #9 and #13 then pile onto any upper.
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Pretty sure that that would be a violation of the Terms of Service.
rob sent me a PM stating that several people have access to other members accounts in order to eject people in case of emergencies, which i think is a no no also.
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Honestly there the best squad in the game. The own The Few who was previously the best.
I'd be careful using the term "best" so broadly. I can think of one category that the vtards are "best" in. The category of "highest odds in their favor" would belong to them. They, as a group, are good at one thing: bringing in the 30v1 horde. I've seen nothing else to the contrary.
In terms of precision or tactics outside of the horde mentality, there are a number of squads that are well tuned. The Claim Jumpers, 68th, and a number of other squads have the poise and ability, without over-whelming odds, to perform successfully a multitude of different type of missions. Some squads are smaller yet highly attuned to certain types of missions, namely fighter sweeps and other such player vs player missions.
FWIW, to the O/P, I'd put $100 on 10 of The Few vs 30 of the vTARDs in an air to air duel any day of the week. Again, don't be so quick with the tongue on "who owns who", because in terms of talent the vtards dont have it.
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Who?
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Honestly Mir can you expect anything diff in the MA?
Maybe I dont understand what/or why some of you dislike what they do but why put yourself in that position to be ganged by them?
I had some nice fights with Vguys the other day and yes I had to chase a few of them down but hey who doesnt run in the MA.
I stand behind them and encourage them to provide more targets more often. :rock :salute
I know someone who never runs from a fight...... no matter the odds :D
I have never had a issue with the Vguys, they play the way they enjoy....except the armchair generals who think they can dictate how others play......
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I like the derision that TitanMD always uses when referring to "missions" and "mission planners". The consistency is comforting.
You see, there is no "Base Capture Arena"... but there is a "Dueling Arena"...
If you want a REAL furball... i.e., you want to fly a fighter in conditions that are somewhat akin to those experienced in all theatres of war, then you'll want to fly CAP or fighter sweeps in defense of these "missions".
Alternatively, fly escort for a bomber "mission"...
Deriding the time and effort that are put into these missions, as if it is somehow to be looked down upon, is simply absurd.
Of course, on the other hand, I believe that those who decry dedicated "furballers" are equally annoying (although they have a stronger position... wanting an actual war in the main arena).
I will say that flying against the Devil's Brigade... when both the Devil Dogs and the Brigade are organized and have decent numbers... has produced the most rewarding, exciting, and intense rumbles I have experienced to date.
As far as individuals on the "v" go, I haven't really had any issues with any of them. I hear them called "vTards", but like I have said in the "Pesonel attacks" thread, I look at that less as an insult and more as the time honored tradition of nicknaming ones grudgingly respected foe.
In fact, when acolonitus called us "dTards" I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I will say one thing, however... Devil Dog missions are not just "horde concentrators" like I saw when I played on another side briefly before joining Rooks... every single one is planned out, sections are formed and formations are flown. You can cry about them on 200 all you want, or you can attempt to organize a defense that actually succeeds in stopping one. Your call.
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As to the Vguys: Yup, they're players.
This kind of struck me as interesting though:
what I find really funny is how some of the people that post how they hate hordes, routinely fly not with them but they stay close to them, now that I find funny.
I was flying Bish last tour, and I generally avoid friendly unopposed hordes. When there's opposition, I want in though. I upped toward an enemy bardar which wound up petering out by the time I got to the base, but I noticed something. The friendly horde was probably 3/4 of a sector away from me, and I realized the onesy-twosies I was running into had upped with intent to defend against the horde. They seemed to want to fight as well.
It happened by accident but I got into a couple of 'decent fights' as a lot of the horde detractors like to call them. What I'm wondering is if one might be able to find those 'decent fights' they seek in between the horde and the next base over more often because the defender types are usually looking for a fight.
*shrug* It was just something that occurred to me what with the whole 'ecosystem' theory of the game.
Wiley.
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I like the derision that TitanMD always uses when referring to "missions" and "mission planners". The consistency is comforting.
You see, there is no "Base Capture Arena"... but there is a "Dueling Arena"...
If you want a REAL furball... i.e., you want to fly a fighter in conditions that are somewhat akin to those experienced in all theatres of war, then you'll want to fly CAP or fighter sweeps in defense of these "missions".
Alternatively, fly escort for a bomber "mission"...
Deriding the time and effort that are put into these missions, as if it is somehow to be looked down upon, is simply absurd.
Of course, on the other hand, I believe that those who decry dedicated "furballers" are equally annoying (although they have a stronger position... wanting an actual war in the main arena).
I will say that flying against the Devil's Brigade... when both the Devil Dogs and the Brigade are organized and have decent numbers... has produced the most rewarding, exciting, and intense rumbles I have experienced to date.
As far as individuals on the "v" go, I haven't really had any issues with any of them. I hear them called "vTards", but like I have said in the "Pesonel attacks" thread, I look at that less as an insult and more as the time honored tradition of nicknaming ones grudgingly respected foe.
In fact, when acolonitus called us "dTards" I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I will say one thing, however... Devil Dog missions are not just "horde concentrators" like I saw when I played on another side briefly before joining Rooks... every single one is planned out, sections are formed and formations are flown. You can cry about them on 200 all you want, or you can attempt to organize a defense that actually succeeds in stopping one. Your call.
:rofl
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Honestly Mir can you expect anything diff in the MA?
Maybe I dont understand what/or why some of you dislike what they do but why put yourself in that position to be ganged by them?
I'll always expect that a 4th or 5th stay out when 3 others are fighting a single con. Often it happens that way too, but certain squads and individuals don't mind being the 4th, 5th, 6th, or 7th person to take a swipe.
As to why some of us end up in those situations -- we enjoy turnfighting a couple at a time. It's challenging. What's the challenge for the 4th+ person attacking a single enemy, especially when there are other enemy cons nearby?
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I'll always expect that a 4th or 5th stay out when 3 others are fighting a single con. Often it happens that way too, but certain squads and individuals don't mind being the 4th, 5th, 6th, or 7th person to take a swipe.
As to why some of us end up in those situations -- we enjoy turnfighting a couple at a time. It's challenging. What's the challenge for the 4th+ person attacking a single enemy, especially when there are other enemy cons nearby?
I understand this because its how I look at it but when I know the odds are not in my favor anymore its time to BnZ those 5 cons trying to gang you.
You have to look at it how those that are of low skill level they dont know how to get a kill, sometimes ppl feel this is the only way of making said kills.
It will never change.
Adapt and Own. :salute
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You would have to fly with us to know. I would venture to say we have changed a lot in the last year. It's not so much about takin bases. We do a large varity of things.
yes thyir sycronized bailing has gotten better, and have started to use things other than poy's and lancs, still run and bail at the 1st sign of trouble well the guys in charge of this Tard kart of a squad while they run in thier Run190s the poor low level vtards act as bait while Dallas trieds to pick but usually ends up running for his life after 1 pass.
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Obviously.
I hope that my pointing out the ToS violation wasn't viewed as heated. Personally, I would agree that for the most part the vGuys aren't the biggest part of the horde problem. On the Bishops side, the Alchemists (Chuwie) are the real horde masters.
I have always believed that the base taking squads have an important place in the Aces High ecology. The base rollers are the first place of refuge for a high percentage of the brand new players. The base takers are the ones posting missions and welcoming all who wish to participate to join in on their fun. Many of you guys berating the hordes are the same guys who continually beat down new players, both in the sky and via ch200 or even worse, private message. It is only natural that a new player, who has been getting his butt handed to him repeatedly, would seek refuge in these missions. I often wonder how the game would change if the non base rolling squads went out of their way to take as many new guys under their wing as possible. What if The Muppets or The Few (or whoever) was posting up missions frequently, advertising them, filling them with new guys, and accomplishing a goal. Imagine the time a mission commander has during climbout, to talk with the guys in the mission. To answer questions. To teach another way to take bases, other then overwhelming force. The opportunity to shape the new players early in their AH career is there. Until now, the community seems to be perfectly willing to let squads like the Alchemists, or Devils Brigade, (insert whatever base rolling squad you like or dislike).
The missions give the new player a way to feel successful in this very steep learning curve game. Also, the contact with other players (many of whom are at a similar noob skill level), gives the new guys a way to make contact with other players more on their level. A way to bond with others who are like them. This also serves to make these new guys feel like they are part of something and not just additional fodder for the experten lurking over head in their K4s and LAs, or griefing them in 262s.
Ideally, these new players will spend a period of time in the base rolling squad, learning the basic mechanics of the game. Giving them just enough of a taste of success in the Aces High world that they eventually begin to seek out more. Eventually, hopefully, they realize that if they are ever going to truly become skilled pilots they are going to have to branch out and seek out training that the base rolling squad cannot or will not provide.
They hopefully discover that constantly flying in a cloud of friendly aircraft does not present the challenge and experience necessary to make significant improvement.
It is my hope, that squads like Devils Brigade, understand what their place really is in the ecology of the game. Accept their role, enjoying the playstyle that they have chosen. But always remembering that they should be helping the newer guys to truly grow in abilities. Whether that means providing training as the new guys seek it, or by encouraging the new guys to spread their wings and leave the nest that the horde truly is, striking out on their own in search of the training and experience that they crave.
It is also my hope that the folks who so dislike the turn towards hording that the game seems to have taken, will take this as a clarion call to adopt a few new guys. Get ahold of them before the hordes do. Teach them to fish so that they may feed themselves one day, rather the allowing them to rely on the socialist horde for their every meal.
Great Post :aok
We take the heat for all of the spur of the moment chewie missions. I don't agree with how he operates, but i dont bash him for what he does. Will i join no, but will I encourage the other members to join? Yes. We have some members that strive off of the "base taking" mentality. So i encourage those that do to join up in those missions. We also have others that love to dogfight, runs GVs, and some that have a passion for Bombers.
We don't always do missions for the capture of a base. We very often enjoy doing fighter sweeps or GV runs. There's a few times we will even do bomber raids. It doesn't matter what we do, someone will complain about us either: hording, taking an undefended base, or running.
We occasionally do fighter sweeps in D3A1's which is a blast. However we get bashed for "ganging" or "hording" cause it wasn't a 1v1 fight. We have a video of that, all everyone saw was a bunch of "horders". We also have a video of 2 members stealing a base with one wirb trying to figure out what was going on. There is a video of that also, but it was taken as "taking an undefended base".
As far as training goes, we do offer it. We offer it in many different ways. We have a hand full of members that are really dedicated and good at what they know how to do. However a lot of our members have something to offer as training. We have a few members that are good fighter sticks that would take someone under their wing in a heart beat to show them the basics of flying and ACM. We also have a few that excel in Dive Bombing that would do the same for anyone who need some help placing bombs on target.
But i wont sit here and tell you that all of members are good at everything. Cause they are not. Do i have faith in them to accomplish any and every goal, YES. We have members that strive to to have a good time and be better within the community of the squad and those around them. For some of our members this is their get away from real life. When they have issues with real life, they come to AH for their fix. This is where they get away from reality and get to be that fighter pilot for a couple hours. The problem is that we have people in the AH Community that want to try and bash people for what they have a good time doing. The mains ones that do so, are fully engulfed into AH, and i don't expect them to fully understand why our squad works together for a common goal, no matter what the goal is.
So yes, we get bashed for everything we do. We get blamed for every poor tactic that occurs on the Bishop Country. We get the blame for every runner in a dogfight, every person that misses their target, every person that augers into an object or the ground, and for every player that is unskilled.. But we have fun trying to accomplish a goal that may be taking a base or running supplies to a base that was just porked.
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I realized the ones I was running into had upped with intent to defend against the horde. They seemed to want to fight as well.
Wiley.
That is usually what I did to use the horde to my advantage. Go to the sector over where defenders and goon hunters are upping from. Nothing like catching a low-n-slow 262 just after take off looking for goons chuck yeager style !
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I have no problems with Brigade. Keep on coming fellas, I enjoy the fighting and the chaos that a large enemy force provides. Ground, sea and air you know the Pigs will be there if you come to the Knights front. :aok
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Back when I played, I enjoyed attacking thier raids. I have several fun memories of single-handedly attacking their horde. There was this one player, I think vaugering, who every time I'd attack their horde, I seemed to first kill him...
EDIT: Some of their member's antics were not appreciated though. Hiding CVs, general idiotic behavior, etc... but I reserve that more on a case-by-case, individual basis.
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Yeah..... and they don't bomb the tower or indestructible buildings or auger into their own bomb craters either. :rock
and why dont we have endless threads about them, they do the same thing? Funny, bish missions called a hordes and rook missions called teamwork :bhead.......btw, I have been on many V missions and never heard anyone call out "I HAVE THE TOWER", but that will be my 1st target from now on, thanks :salute
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Post enough public jabo missions and you will see ords landing on all manner of things that they shouldn't be.
I'll confess that I have augered while divebombing. Actually I've probably augered in every way possible including during a climb. When I was a total noob and learning how to fly bombers, I'd hit that indestructable hanger on purpose most of the time.
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<S> Devils Brigade.
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and why dont we have endless threads about them, they do the same thing? Funny, bish missions called a hordes and rook missions called teamwork :bhead.......btw, I have been on many V missions and never heard anyone call out "I HAVE THE TOWER", but that will be my 1st target from now on, thanks :salute
I just got back from the MA. I already got the tower. :joystick:
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I have always believed that the base taking squads have an important place in the Aces High ecology. The base rollers are the first place of refuge for a high percentage of the brand new players. The base takers are the ones posting missions and welcoming all who wish to participate to join in on their fun...The missions give the new player a way to feel successful in this very steep learning curve game. Also, the contact with other players (many of whom are at a similar noob skill level), gives the new guys a way to make contact with other players more on their level....Ideally, these new players will spend a period of time in the base rolling squad, learning the basic mechanics of the game. Giving them just enough of a taste of success in the Aces High world that they eventually begin to seek out more. Eventually, hopefully, they realize that if they are ever going to truly become skilled pilots they are going to have to branch out and seek out training that the base rolling squad cannot or will not provide.
What Dave has said here is quite accurate, and precisely my experience, as I used to be a vTard when I first joined AH. I was looking to learn the mechanics of the game and they were the first guys to invite me aboard (vDogfite, right before vDallas took over) and teach me those basic things related to shutting down and capturing bases.
Beyond that, there was little more to learn from them, because of the narrow focus on base takes. This is what is perceived by the community as a lack of interest in “getting better” as others have put it here. In their own eyes, they are “good enough” if they close and capture bases. Keep in mind that is all they care about. They aren’t really looking for a fight – the easier the target, the better. However, they do occasionally start protracted fights, but this is the result of a failed mission, not a success for them. The desire to fight air-to-air, survive the mission and RTB is not stressed (by the officers I flew with, or especially vDallas), so it is not on the priorities list of things to learn. Believe me, I had many conversations about just this subject with vDallas and other squaddies. They briefly showed interest, allowed me to hold several training/practice sessions focused on wing tactics, attended by 3-5 guys for a short time, but the doctrines we practiced were never really used because they didn’t fit into "the mission profiles". Personally, I became discouraged by seeing my squad-mates die so frequently and in so large numbers. I was also disappointed by the lack of interest in improving this and focusing on surviving missions in addition to just flattening and capturing bases. Eventually, I felt I was being asked to be a member of a suicide squad where individual player growth didn’t matter much. So, I left.
I am sharing this not as an insult to the vSquad – but rather to make an important point: the vSquad is what it is, and it is not likely to change -- so stop complaining about them! I couldn’t change the culture from within, and you will not change the culture from the outside, no matter how much you complain, berate and laugh at them. They will only continue to interpret that as success.
To vTrooper: I know you draw some satisfaction by making your “enemies” complain about you. That is why you started this thread. You actually stated this as your goal in another thread about the Brigade. Sadly, many people do judge their success in this community by how much they are disliked. What I think you need to understand is that the vBrigade is not really as “hated” as you’d perhaps like it to be. I’ve flown with and against you, for all three chess pieces, for 3 squads and seen many sides of the equation. It is my conclusion that the vGuys are more "disrespected" (hence, mocked) than "hated". This is because most players realize that horde base-takes are usually unstoppable with the current game mechanics, and they only require large numbers with very limited skill sets to be “successful”. The fact that the Devil’s Brigade prides itself on reaching such a low rung of "success" in AH (while also dying in mass to do so) and that you also see this derision as a sign of success, is what really makes you a topic people like to poke at.
I don’t think that hordes are really good for the game (and could be reduced with aircraft-per-base limitations), but I do agree that the AH ecology needs its prey and its predators alike. In that sense, under the current game design, the vSquad serves a purpose: they’re the pack animals, a herd continuously roaming the AH landscape “feeding” on base after base -- largely unstoppable due to their numbers. But, they in turn feed the predators, who get to cull the herd of their weak and their lame. (Hmmm… I may have to save that line as a response to my next PM from “You shot down vDallas”. :))
At any rate, I respectfully suggest we let the Brigade play the game how they wish. Laugh at their methods if you must. But, ultimately, you get to decide for yourself if you want to be a predator or if you want to be the prey.
<S> Brigade
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I flew with VDallas and the Devils several years ago, it was a lot of fun. They are very mission oriented, stick together and have a good time. I got no problems with them. :aok
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I flew with VDallas and the Devils several years ago, it was a lot of fun. They are very mission oriented, stick together and have a good time. I got no problems with them. :aok
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Yaahh Double post !! :old:
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OK, I'll admit I jumped the gun and placed my anger towards the vDudes when my real problem is with the folks on my side that won't up to meet the challenge. I too was once a vDallas groupie. Except everyone called us OREOS :o I got tired of getting my butt kicked by the likes of BluKitty, SkyRock, Shawk, BearKats, Lynx and all the rest. Decided to learn how to dogfight and beat these guys by myself. Still working on that part, but here I am 3 or 4 years later having forgot what it's like to be a noob around here.
So having said that, I will respect the vDudes right to play the game anyway they see fit, from here on out. :salute
It always helps to read all the different opinions being posted in order to get a clear perspective on things. :)
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Like i have told others, the Brigade has changed a lot since a lot of yall were members. It has some in the past 2-3 months and it still is changing. The squad in a whole is moving to a more rounded style of play. We do a lot more than take bases nowadays.
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Like i have told others, the Brigade has changed a lot since a lot of yall were members. It has some in the past 2-3 months and it still is changing. The squad in a whole is moving to a more rounded style of play. We do a lot more than take bases nowadays.
Personally, I haven't seen anything to support your claims of "change". In fact, in a recent PM exchange with vDallas (after shooting him down, in a 30+ plane horde, of course) he essentially told me: "We got the base. That's all we focus on. Losses don't matter to us." I'm pretty sure I was in flight at the time of our PM exchange. Would you like the film? You and he may want to get on the same page before making claims for your squad on the forum.
I'm still left wondering, though, if you actually read what I posted. I more-or-less defended (or at least explained) what you guys do. Did you notice Uptown's change of tone at all?
It may be that you're still trolling for the derision on this forum that you said in your other thread (and on your own forum) you base some measure of "success" on.
Either way, good luck to you and the squad with that.
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Personally, I haven't seen anything to support your claims of "change". In fact, in a recent PM exchange with vDallas (after shooting him down, in a 30+ plane horde, of course) he essentially told me: "We got the base. That's all we focus on. Losses don't matter to us." I'm pretty sure I was in flight at the time of our PM exchange. Would you like the film? You and he may want to get on the same page before making claims for your squad on the forum.
I'm still left wondering, though, if you actually read what I posted. I more-or-less defended (or at least explained) what you guys do. Did you notice Uptown's change of tone at all?
It may be that you're still trolling for the derision on this forum that you said in your other thread (and on your own forum) you base some measure of "success" on.
Either way, good luck to you and the squad with that.
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Once again you are judging the squad off of one member. You only see what you want to see. You don't see what really goes on with the squad.
Yes i do find it funny that some many people hate us. I think is very funny that someone can get so frustrated about something that goes on in a game.
Lets stop beating the ol same dead horse here.
Why do i need film? would it make you feel better if i watched it and saw that you judged an entire squad off of one person?
I don't need to be on the same page as him. All of our members bring something different to the table. Dallas enjoys taking bases. So we take bases from time to time.
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I think the real question is WHY would anyone have a problem with the vTards? They die just like everyone else, they just do it together. I will always be perplexed as to why they are all so willing to die while their fearless leader lands his perch kills while directing traffic. Seems to me leadership has a two word definition: FOLLOW ME...I don't see that happening much there but I'm not in that squad so I get to continue to be perplexed and slightly amused at the sheep led to slaughter.
So, vGuys, do your thing...and remember, its ok to complain UP the chain...you just can't complain down, lol. (credit: Saving Private Ryan and words to live by in both the military and the biz world)
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Once again you are judging the squad off of one member. You only see what you want to see. You don't see what really goes on with the squad.
Yes i do find it funny that some many people hate us. I think is very funny that someone can get so frustrated about something that goes on in a game.
Lets stop beating the ol same dead horse here.
Why do i need film? would it make you feel better if i watched it and saw that you judged an entire squad off of one person?
I don't need to be on the same page as him. All of our members bring something different to the table. Dallas enjoys taking bases. So we take bases from time to time.
I offered the film for YOUR benefit, not mine. It seems you don't care that what vDallas says about your squad contradicts what you say. So, I'll leave it at that.
I also said I don't think your squad is hated (try reading above). I said you are not respected, because horde base takes are considered easy by many in the community. Unfortunately, this is all based on what you are SEEN doing (taking bases in large hordes), not what you claim to be doing that nobody else can see.
Lastly, I am not judging you. I am stating my perspective on how you are viewed by the community. Remember, YOU started this post with "Tell us what you really think of the DEVILS=v=BRIGADE."
You dragged the dead horse into the yard and handed out the bats, sir.
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I understand this because its how I look at it but when I know the odds are not in my favor anymore its time to BnZ those 5 cons trying to gang you.
You have to look at it how those that are of low skill level they dont know how to get a kill, sometimes ppl feel this is the only way of making said kills.
It will never change.
Adapt and Own. :salute
Doc, understand some of us have been doing this a heckuva lot longer then you and we are further down the road. Our expectations have changed. Yours will too if you stick around long enough.
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<S> Devils Brigade.
I'll second that.
:salute Devils Brigade.
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I offered the film for YOUR benefit, not mine. It seems you don't care that what vDallas says about your squad contradicts what you say. So, I'll leave it at that.
I also said I don't think your squad is hated (try reading above). I said you are not respected, because horde base takes are considered easy by many in the community. Unfortunately, this is all based on what you are SEEN doing (taking bases in large hordes), not what you claim to be doing that nobody else can see.
Lastly, I am not judging you. I am stating my perspective on how you are viewed by the community. Remember, YOU started this post with "Tell us what you really think of the DEVILS=v=BRIGADE."
You dragged the dead horse into the yard and handed out the bats, sir.
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The thing is no matter what we do is bad sportsman ship or its looked bad upon. We stole a base with 2 people as 1 wirb tried to defend it and that was look as taking a undefended base. Everything we do it is frowned upon. Im just asking why? Its cause of the reputation that the squad used to have and the leader that we have. Things are changing within the squad whether anyone wants to accept it or not.
<S> Sir.
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I think most of the bad rep that you guys get is because of "you know who". There's been a few occasions when I've seen him bomb and bail just to avoid a death or 3. That kind of thing and the rude PMs that have been sent over the years just leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth. IMO a squad is made or broken by it's leadership.....
You seem to want to change your squad's image and I respect that. Lord knows it could use some good press for a change. But as long as vDallas continues to be involved I really doubt anything can change. He's just too well known for what he does.
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I think most of the bad rep that you guys get is because of "you know who". There's been a few occasions when I've seen him bomb and bail just to avoid a death or 3. That kind of thing and the rude PMs that have been sent over the years just leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth. IMO a squad is made or broken by it's leadership.....
You seem to want to change your squad's image and I respect that. Lord knows it could use some good press for a change. But as long as vDallas continues to be involved I really doubt anything can change. He's just too well known for what he does.
And, he isn't going to change.
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The only change I've seen in the vGuys over the past few months is timing their missions to coincide with Alchemist or Joker missions that are hitting another base on the same front. In this way they are able to split the defense and capture at least one of the bases.
They've also started to send bombers in first to drag down the CAP, then come in with 25K Ponies and 190s that have been spotted 2 sectors away doing nothing for 20 minutes while the bombers get to position.
As far as I can tell, they've just adapted their 'tactics' to utterly overwhelm an enemy. They realize that on any one side, there may be 10 guys who are willing to defend against the horde. Those 10 people are actually pretty skilled and can shut down a raid, but if you can split them they have a better chance of at least getting 1 base.
Not saying it's wrong; it's a great way of adapting your style of play to fit your objectives. That being said, I have way more fun shooting you guys down than trying to find a decent fight away from your missions as a bish. Unfortunately the 'map reset' objective based style of play has been spreading like cancer and it's getting harder and harder to not have the same feelings about other countries missions. I do have to give Rooks some credit, for the most part they shut down a base just to vulch, I rarely see them press a base take... though I really don't find a lot of fun in that either. :salute
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I think most of the bad rep that you guys get is because of "you know who". There's been a few occasions when I've seen him bomb and bail just to avoid a death or 3. That kind of thing and the rude PMs that have been sent over the years just leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth. IMO a squad is made or broken by it's leadership.....
You seem to want to change your squad's image and I respect that. Lord knows it could use some good press for a change. But as long as vDallas continues to be involved I really doubt anything can change. He's just too well known for what he does.
We, myself and some others within the command staff of the brigade, are approaching different playing styles for the squad. For example, tonight we haven't touched the first base, rather i have encouraged the members, about 9-12 right now, to do fighter sweeps and/or to stir things up at other bases. However there is no RTB. We are there for the fun of the fight. Yes, we were called out to help another squad take a base, in which we helped, but that was it. The Brigade is changing, it may be slow, but its still change.
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There a great bunch of guys <S> :rock
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The thing is no matter what we do is bad sportsman ship or its looked bad upon. We stole a base with 2 people as 1 wirb tried to defend it and that was look as taking a undefended base. Everything we do it is frowned upon. Im just asking why? Its cause of the reputation that the squad used to have and the leader that we have. Things are changing within the squad whether anyone wants to accept it or not.
<S> Sir.
It comes down to the old saying, "you made your bed now lie in it".
Once you choose a path you must accept that you will be remembered by the path you selected. No one can be great, mediocre, or bad all the time but which one you choose most of the time will define you as individuals and a group. Once your path is chosen and practiced for any amount of time, you can't just throw a switch and change it in other folks eyes. That takes time.
I don't care one way or the other which path you choose. I'm here to have fun and may poke at you or anyone else with a stick..... in the end it's a game.... no harm done.
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vTARDS have done a great thing for the game, ruined it with the stupid hording with the P51's and P38's. They also have trained the vJOKERS very well and do the same. Nothing wrong with hording I guess, but this is all they know how to do. I could take any one of them out in a one on one fight in ANY plane. Newbs with no brains.
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vTARDS have done a great thing for the game, ruined it with the stupid hording with the P51's and P38's. They also have trained the vJOKERS very well and do the same. Nothing wrong with hording I guess, but this is all they know how to do. I could take any one of them out in a one on one fight in ANY plane. Newbs with no brains.
All 38 drivers are dweebs.
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My only big complaint is that frequently I'm talked to both on the forum and via PM as though I am the whole squad or vDALLAS instead of myself.
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My only big complaint is that frequently I'm talked to both on the forum and via PM as though I am the whole squad or vDALLAS instead of myself.
quilty by association
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My only big complaint is that frequently I'm talked to both on the forum and via PM as though I am the whole squad or vDALLAS instead of myself.
You've clearly placed yourself in that position by being such a vocal supporter of the vWay. In the case of vDallas, it is guilt by association. He is generally disliked by a very wide cross section of the AH community, for pretty good reason too. Supporting him, taints you. If you want the vSquad to get a little more respect, eject him from the squad.
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vTARDS have done a great thing for the game, ruined it with the stupid hording with the P51's and P38's. They also have trained the vJOKERS very well and do the same. Nothing wrong with hording I guess, but this is all they know how to do. I could take any one of them out in a one on one fight in ANY plane. Newbs with no brains.
And I guarantee there are many more people that could beat you in any plane one on one, but what's the point? People with attitudes such as yourself are the one's that will ruin the game. Lighten up a bit. Stepping away for the even a short amount of time really puts into perspective just how funny little squabbles on here are.
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vTARDS have done a great thing for the game, ruined it with the stupid hording with the P51's and P38's. They also have trained the vJOKERS very well and do the same. Nothing wrong with hording I guess, but this is all they know how to do. I could take any one of them out in a one on one fight in ANY plane. Newbs with no brains.
Is your two week trial over yet?
Talk of vJOKERS and vTARD P-38 hordes are like talking about the Loch Ness monster & sasquatch.
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they arent called the vJOKERS, they are Jokers Strokers. Get it right.
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they arent called the vJOKERS, they are Jokers Strokers. Get it right.
ARE NOT!
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Can't say I really "hate" the =V= guys or really anyone for that matter. Heck, at the end of the day we are all just a bunch of big kiddos flying our little cartoon airplanes around. There is enough hate to go around in the real world to let anything in a "game" be a cause for more.
I do have to agree tho that the squad is a reflection of it's leadership. If you as an individual don't agree with the leadership's style, tactics, behavior... then you have a choice. Leave and go where you can be proud to be a part of another or stay and by doing so you accept what that means for you as well. It's your choice and your $15 as they say.
While I don't agree with the =V= style of play, they certinally have a right to play that way. I do think it a bit sad however that they bask in the glory of feling they are "hated" by the community. It's one thing to be hated because you are a great squad, very dominate, very skilled, and much if not overly respected by most. Yet it is another to be hated due to poor sportsmanship, inflamitory PM's, disrepectful behavior, trolling BB posts ( like this one ) and overall questionable tactics. The =V= guys seem to fall in the second catagory and to watch them chest thump, high five and celebrate in the glory of being hated for these reasons is actually kind of sad.
But again it's your guys reputation and your $15 so roll them bases and rock on !! :rock
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I don't bask in the hatred, I thought it was cute at first but it has gotten a bit old and stale.
A lot of people take it way too far. A few people treat us like the Check 6 that they were entitled to but didn't get.
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This thread is such a waste of valuable forum space. Yawn .... you take bases, who hasn't? Yawn..... you think what you do is original lol its not YAAAWNN.....
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Is your two week trial over yet?
Talk of vJOKERS and vTARD P-38 hordes are like talking about the Loch Ness monster & sasquatch.
:rofl
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Generally I don't have a problem with most of the vGuys, just a certain few.
What bugs me is the ch. 200 warriors from that "other" bish horde squad, the vJokers, thumping their chest on that channel every time they kill a cv of ours.
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Rob
Buddy
I have always been respectful to you and your squad, but I am always respectful to everyone that plays.
You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. I was going to send you a PM but I want it here instead.
You have in the past certainly shown more respect than you have been given sir.
Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe you may have misgivings concerning the current squad you fly with and how that reflects upon you.
If that is true, and you are either incapable or unwilling to make the changes within your squad that would allow the squad to shed their poor reputation,
then I would consider changing squads.
That is what I would do.
Should you arrive at this decision, I would like to extend you an invitation to fly with myself and VMF-222.
Thank you.
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Thanks bud.
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Rob
Buddy
I have always been respectful to you and your squad, but I am always respectful to everyone that plays.
You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. I was going to send you a PM but I want it here instead.
You have in the past certainly shown more respect than you have been given sir.
Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe you may have misgivings concerning the current squad you fly with and how that reflects upon you.
If that is true, and you are either incapable or unwilling to make the changes within your squad that would allow the squad to shed their poor reputation,
then I would consider changing squads.
That is what I would do.
Should you arrive at this decision, I would like to extend you an invitation to fly with myself and VMF-222.
Thank you.
Baaahhh What does Zoney know... :neener:
Thanks bud.
umm Zoney is a person... not a Beer. :D
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I don't drink bud, I just smoke it.
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I don't drink bud, I just smoke it.
My Wife works at Budweiser :D
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I don't drink bud, I just smoke it.
smart man :aok
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I don't drink bud, I just smoke it.
:lol
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x376/wildwest15/SMILELY%20FACE%20GIF/smoking-cannabis-034.gif)
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:lol
(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/MANITOU57/MARIJUANA%20ANIMATIONS/ANIMATIONSMILEYBIGSMOKE.gif)
Your image was stolen
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I don't drink bud, I just smoke it.
OOOOooooo.... That will kill your brain cells and then you will end up flying P38's all the time.. :neener:
( settle down INK.. its just a joke... I know its not true :bolt: )
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Your image was stolen
I know just an animated smiley .... oh well have to use the .... :banana:
oh found one..... see above....^
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OOOOooooo.... That will kill your brain cells and then you will end up flying P38's all the time.. :neener:
( settle down INK.. its just a joke... I know its not true :bolt: )
why? what were we talking about :headscratch:
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huh?
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huh?
:D
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I don't drink bud, I just smoke it.
In that case, you can be my wingman. (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/smiley-dance004.gif)
What were we talking about? :headscratch:
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In that case, you can be my wingman. (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/smiley-dance004.gif)
What were we talking about? :headscratch:
chicks that's what we were talking about.....no that's not right.....oh I know....
.no wait.......
damn lost it :cry
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:rofl :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :rofl you guys are a Hoot :rofl
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Yeah bro I dig chicks....they taste like chicken. (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/2-191473-1386-t.jpg)
ya got any twinkies man?
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Yeah bro I dig chicks....they taste like chicken. (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/2-191473-1386-t.jpg)
ya got any twinkies man?
twinkies......um isn't that guys that like.......oh wait your talking about the food snack....that crap will kill ya :old:
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they arent called the vJOKERS, they are Jokers Strokers. Get it right.
Tupac is correct here... Maybe we should get all of the nicknames listed so everyone knows. :D
Devils Brigade = vTards
Jokers Jokers = Jokers Strokers, or sometimes Jokers Chokers
Rolling Thunder = In our horde squad days (far behind us thankfully) we were called Rolling Blunder
Claim Jumpers = Clam Humpers
Those are the few I can think of off hand, feel free to share others that I am missing!
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Tupac is correct here... Maybe we should get all of the nicknames listed so everyone knows. :D
Devils Brigade = vTards
Jokers Jokers = Jokers Strokers, or sometimes Jokers Chokers
Rolling Thunder = In our horde squad days (far behind us thankfully) we were called Rolling Blunder
Claim Jumpers = Clam Humpers
Those are the few I can think of off hand, feel free to share others that I am missing!
Top Gum. :D
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Top Gum. :D
The Few = The Many
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Loose sweetheart
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LOL didn't know that word was a no no, my bad.
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Not so fresh feeling zoney? :bolt:
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Loose sweetheart
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LOL didn't know that word was a no no, my bad.
It occurs to me that duece is a common euphemism for poo... Which adds a whole new meaning to Loose Duece... :rofl
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Yes a loose deuce should not be confused with a turtle head.
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Yes a loose deuce should not be confused with a turtle head.
Of course not, two totally different conditions.
My Grandmother (God rest her soul), if one of us grandkids farted would ask if we had a worm hanging out of our butt. I was a little older before I understood what she was asking. :rofl
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Like i have told others, the Brigade has changed a lot since a lot of yall were members. It has some in the past 2-3 months and it still is changing. The squad in a whole is moving to a more rounded style of play. We do a lot more than take bases nowadays.
no, you havent. some of your players that decided to actually fight either got kicked out or left because they didnt just want to be like zombies dying by the hundreds. I talk to some of the vtards and there are some that are really good at the game. but I just shake my head when i kill them so easily when in a "mission".
It is no secret that when vdallas calls people to "rally" he expects people to follow or else gets kicked out. we know that because I have spoken to many who either got tired or got kicked out for refusing to just dumb bomb die get another plane, over and over.
semp
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no, you havent. some of your players that decided to actually fight either got kicked out or left because they didnt just want to be like zombies dying by the hundreds. I talk to some of the vtards and there are some that are really good at the game. but I just shake my head when i kill them so easily when in a "mission".
It is no secret that when vdallas calls people to "rally" he expects people to follow or else gets kicked out. we know that because I have spoken to many who either got tired or got kicked out for refusing to just dumb bomb die get another plane, over and over.
semp
Once again, you don't see the change. you only see what you want to see. The people you are talking to are already gone, so how do they know if it is changing? I'm telling you the squad is changing. you don't have to accept that, but we are. Our primary role will still be taking bases, but we will do a lot of other things. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about something you have no idea about. Go and ask any of the current members that fly on a regular basis and see if there is any change going on currently within the squad. You may be surprised, but doubt it. You only see and hear what you want.
<S> Semp
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Change. Hope.
Devils in 2012.
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Whats the point of joining a squad if you have no intention of flying with the squad? Or usually still fly alone?
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Anyone remember when it was the Devils Rejects and instead of "v(name)" it was "1(name)1"?
Those were the days, before the hordes, before the finger pointing.
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Whats the point of joining a squad if you have no intention of flying with the squad? Or usually still fly alone?
The Muffintops were once a 5 player mega-horde squad that only flew together when fighting each other in the DA. The squad channel lets you joke around and bs, while still doing your own thing. Nothing wrong with lone wolfing it. Also nothing wrong with flying with your squad, unless it involves dropping hangars to stifle all opposition. What is the fun of removing the fight? This seems to be the norm lately (on all sides): drop all the hangars, then you can kill the town buildings without anyone messing up your hit %. :(
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Once again, you don't see the change. you only see what you want to see. The people you are talking to are already gone, so how do they know if it is changing? I'm telling you the squad is changing. you don't have to accept that, but we are. Our primary role will still be taking bases, but we will do a lot of other things. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about something you have no idea about. Go and ask any of the current members that fly on a regular basis and see if there is any change going on currently within the squad. You may be surprised, but doubt it. You only see and hear what you want.
<S> Semp
I did, you havent changed. <S>
semp
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I didn't have an opinion one way or the other until I saw this:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,328684.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,328684.0.html)
After that, I had an understandably low opinion of vD.
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:huh :huh :huh I know 1MADDOG1.....hes in my pants! :huh :huh :huh
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I didn't have an opinion one way or the other until I saw this:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,328684.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,328684.0.html)
After that, I had an understandably low opinion of vD.
Did you read what Hitech had to say about it? It wasn't cheating.
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You haven't lived until you have experienced a vDallas rant when he vox tunes you.
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You haven't lived until you have experienced a vDallas rant when he vox tunes you.
You haven't lived until you report such things and get people muted for mutable behavior.
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You haven't lived until you have experienced a vDallas rant when he vox tunes you.
:rofl oh that's funny coming from you. :rofl
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Sad thing about it is he isn't booted from the squad as his behavior contributes to your squads image of being a bunch of sweethearts.
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According to the forum posts, Dallas belongs on trial at the Hague. Oddly he never gets muted so either it's not getting reported, or it's not happening.
If it happens, report it to the proper authorities, not the forum and your other gossip circles.
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:rofl oh that's funny coming from you. :rofl
I don't ever remember vox tuning someone to rant. PM yes. Voice, no.
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:lol oh TwinTail. I'd love to burn you right here and now about your ingame antics and why you was booted out of the 39th. But if I did Skuzzy and his ban hammer would come down on me like a ton of bricks.
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I don't ever remember vox tuning someone to rant. PM yes. Voice, no.
I don't care about what you do or don't remember. I remember your voice, plane, the port and the CV ack you kept running to. I make it a point to remember these types of players. :aok
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Did you read what Hitech had to say about it? It wasn't cheating.
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I tested the issue. It works correctly if you change countries while in command it will kick you out of command.
But I did find out how it happened and it will be fixed with the next host update.
The bug has been in existence since the CV stuff was written, I'm surprised it has not surfaced until now.
HiTech
and I have the same low opinion of people that exploit bugs as I do of people who cheat.
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OOooo...I believe I like this thread now.
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:lol oh TwinTail. I'd love to burn you right here and now about your ingame antics and why you was booted out of the 39th. But if I did Skuzzy and his ban hammer would come down on me like a ton of bricks.
Same here :lol
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:lol oh TwinTail. I'd love to burn you right here and now about your ingame antics and why you was booted out of the 39th. But if I did Skuzzy and his ban hammer would come down on me like a ton of bricks.
When was i booted from the 39th? (please include an actual source and not just exhaust that comes from your mouth) :o
Have you actually talked to TB since you returned sir?
Same here :lol
Also, Jo, i have spoken to Bone aswell and he apologized for the manner of which i was kicked out of TG and said my spot was there if i wanted it back. Still thinking about it.
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When was i booted from the 39th? (please include an actual source and not just exhaust that comes from your mouth) :o
Have you actually talked to TB since you returned sir?
Also, Jo, i have spoken to Bone aswell and he apologized for the manner of which i was kicked out of TG and said my spot was there if i wanted it back. Still thinking about it.
I have been absent for a week maybe 2...last I knew the reason why it happend wasn't very good...
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Also, Jo, i have spoken to Bone aswell and he apologized for the manner of which i was kicked out of TG and said my spot was there if i wanted it back. Still thinking about it.
Had fun flying with you the other night, certainly got to do it again :)
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birds of a feather...............
I guess kills landed in the name of popularity and cartoon skill trumps integrity for some. Disappointing but not surprising.
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birds of a feather...............
I guess kills landed in the name of popularity and cartoon skill trumps integrity for some. Disappointing but not surprising.
This is what i thought, nothing but exhaust. Cheer up and stop hating.
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Say what? I didn't catch that.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/TwinTail.jpg)
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This is what i thought, nothing but exhaust. Cheer up and stop hating.
Sometimes TT it is best to just be quiet too. Hows the quest to pass Vanscrew for the most squads in and out of going btw? :)
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Devils, hmm, a bunch of people getting together having a good time in a game.
I thought that was what its all about. If you can't have fun in a game, why play at all? I wholeheartedly support anyone who can have fun in life, life it too short to do otherwise.
IMHO
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Devils, hmm, a bunch of people getting together having a good time in a game.
I thought that was what its all about. If you can't have fun in a game, why play at all? I wholeheartedly support anyone who can have fun in life, life it too short to do otherwise.
IMHO
+1 :aok