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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: skorpx1 on April 06, 2013, 07:23:17 PM
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Well at about 4:15 PM today someone killed themselves in my area.
What's so special about this? Oh, nothing really, other than the fact that this is the 5th suicide within a 14 month period.
What is up with people just deciding to kill themselves recently? Is this a big issue in other parts of the country, or is the area I live in a special case? I don't think there's a suicide rate as high as the area I live in throughout the neighboring states.
Oh and to top it off, every single suicide that's happened here has been someone under the age of 18.
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Alot of times young people lack the sense of perspective to prevent suicide, things often appear to be much worse than they are.
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Of course I have no idea about this specific case. But in general, any cumulation of suicides in a given area can in turn trigger other sucides, in some cases even showning some 'epidemic' like qualities. This is especially true in young people, which are quick at following the 'example' of their peers.
That's one reason why the media here is very reluctant in publishing anything about juvenile suicide cases.
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Check to see how many of these young people were medicating due to depression and/or anxiety. Some of the drugs used to combat these emotional malaise have very unfortunate side effects regarding suicide. Thats my guess. Either that or the grunge music is still having its Cobain effect.
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Check to see how many of these young people were medicating due to depression and/or anxiety. Some of the drugs used to combat these emotional malaise have very unfortunate side effects regarding suicide. Thats my guess. Either that or the grunge music is still having its Cobain effect.
Grunge music died out a while ago, it was cool for maybe a few months in 2011, but not it's kind of gone. I don't think music is doing anything with kids and suicide much these days. More likely the fact that a lot of kids just want attention that they never get because they just need it all, and killing themselves gives them the spotlight for maybe two weeks.
The only (slightly) reasonable suicide is the 3rd one that happened in late October, the kid had terrible parents that would beat him and usually left him to starve and die. Nobody went to help anyways, and if I would have known the kid i'd probably help.
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What is up with people just deciding to kill themselves recently? Is this a big issue in other parts of the country, or is the area I live in a special case? I don't think there's a suicide rate as high as the area I live in throughout the neighboring states.
Suicide isn't soley the realm of the young - 22 US ex-veterans kill themselves every day - 70% of those are over 50
Tronsky
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One of the rules of the internet is "when one sees a lion, one must jump in the car." In a a nut shell, if someone starts bullying the others will follow. Cyber bullying has become a real problem. The biggest cause of the problem in my opinion is facebook. Everyone wants to have 2,000 friends on facebook to seem popular but don't really know half the people on the list. My brother is one of these kids, however he will deny it. I didn't make my facebook profile until about three months after I was out of high school, even then it was only to keep in touch with my squadies outside the game. Keeping in touch with high school friends was just a plus. As of right now I have about 50 friends on facebook, I don't need anymore than that. For me it's about the quality, when someone starts harassing me on facebook I know it's a joke or I've done something to deserve it. The problem with kids today is that they all "friend" people that they've passed in the hallway once, and when jokes (or mildly harsh words) go around things quickly escalate out of control.
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I knew a girl who committed suicide last year by walking out in front of a train. She was only 17, but had a medical problem that caused her to have depression due to chemical imbalances in her brain.
However, she was like the fifth person to commit suicide in the preceeding year (at that time) to kill themselves by walking in front of a train in the greater Pittsburgh area.
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My nephew committed suicide just over a decade ago. Since then I have followed the issue and paid attention to it. The single most common thread through most suicides anymore is psychotropic medicines, such as Ritalin, Prozac, etc.
What the medical community has come to learn is that there is a very strong association in withdrawals from these 'mind altering' medications and violent thoughts and behaviour to include suicide. In fact, pay attention to TV commercials for these types of medicines. They tend to be 60-second commercials and over half of the commercial will be used to identify potential side effects, and virtually all of them mention violence or suicide.
Dosage, length of use, etc are extremely important. My nephew would be 30 right now. He was first prescribed Prozac when he was 5 years old! Back then it was the wonder drug. Seemed to cure everything and was handed out like candy. What they have learned since is that for children prescribed this (and similar drugs): 1) if prescribed for X period of time 2) below a certain age, suicide is almost 100%, either successful or attempted. Based on this kind of data they are much, much, much more careful about prescriptions, warning signs, etc. My nephew was one of tens of thousands who served at ground zero for the learning curve.
Final thought, this is clearly not related to all cases. Just an informed observation. In fact, you would be amazed at how many of these mass public shootings involved young people either on or in withdrawals from these types of drugs. Again, it does not answer every action but amazing at how many cases are linked.
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They are teaching it in school now.. The whole hate humanity, hate self thing.. Humans are a virus, etc etc..
Death love, is the new Fetish! It is intentional, and it's working..
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Suicide isn't soley the realm of the young - 22 US ex-veterans kill themselves every day - 70% of those are over 50
Tronsky
This is true aprox 18-25 US Veterans commit suicide daily. I'm not sure what an ex-veteran is though Tronski.
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They are teaching it in school now.. The whole hate humanity, hate self thing.. Humans are a virus, etc etc..
Death love, is the new Fetish! It is intentional, and it's working..
I'd love to know all about these teachings of hatred in school. Please, tell me more about it while I go get my tinfoil hat.
Cyber bullying has become a real problem. The biggest cause of the problem in my opinion is facebook. Everyone wants to have 2,000 friends on facebook to seem popular but don't really know half the people on the list.
This latest suicide wasn't related to bullying, but more of psychological issues. Bullying is a problem in these days with all of the resources available to those that feel the need to pick on others.
Suicide isn't soley the realm of the young - 22 US ex-veterans kill themselves every day - 70% of those are over 50
Tronsky
I know suicide isn't only with younger people but all of the recent suicides have been done with people under the age of 18. There are a lot of veterans that commit suicide and that is also an issue.
I just wish people would realize they can go get some help for this and that they don't have to suffer.
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Lusche is right, suicide does tend to follow 'epidemic' trends. In my experience, the people and reasons don't have to be connected, but it seems the 'news' of so and so committing suicide perpetuates suicidal thoughts in others. If that is the case, clearly young people are more susceptible than most well adjusted adults. Obviously, smaller areas seem to have this phenomenon occur more than larger ones.
The best thing people can do, imo, is talk openly about it. It's my contention that if the families and communities affected by suicide would do so, the true selfish nature of the act would be more apparent to those considering it. It truly is the single most selfish thing a person can do, and is almost universally the hardest death for loved ones to deal with. The natural reaction for most family members is to not talk about it though. The shame most family members feel turns to anger and usually sticks around - leaving an unusually complicated grieving process.
I would like to think that even extremely depressed folks would at least pause if they considered what they're about to put their family through, but that's probably overly optimistic and asking for rational thought from the irrational.
God bless the families that deal with this. :pray
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Where do you live? Not saying there is a geo/demographic link in this case, but there may be...
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Where do you live? Not saying there is a geo/demographic link in this case, but there may be...
I live in Wisconsin. Hardly anything ever happens in my area, so I don't think there is any sort of link.
Hell, the county I live in is the highest for suicide rates in all of Wisconsin.
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my gf's therapist committed suicide 3 weeks ago. he had battled depression for years. that only tells you that nobody is immune.
semp
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my gf's therapist committed suicide 3 weeks ago. he had battled depression for years. that only tells you that nobody is immune.
semp
Of all the people that could commit suicide, I would have thought therapists would be one of the last.
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but had a medical problem that caused her to have depression due to chemical imbalances in her brain.
However, she was like the fifth person to commit suicide in the preceeding year (at that time) to kill themselves by walking in front of a train in the greater Pittsburgh area.
:noid ... :furious ... Get off the Drugs! they are not the cure! I would look at the social situation, and personal sense of worth and value! Drugs will help avoid the problem in the short term, counseling and positive life experience "could" dig them out of their mental hole.
Sad/difficult situation no matter how you look at it. :pray
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Of all the people that could commit suicide, I would have thought therapists would be one of the last.
here's another one for you. my gf has been dealing with alcoholism for 25+ years. she's doing good now, thank god. but a 20% of all the therapists at the rehab place have had problems with drugs and alcohol themselves.
they are human, just like the rest of us.
semp
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here's another one for you. my gf has been dealing with alcoholism for 25+ years. she's doing good now, thank god. but a 20% of all the therapists at the rehab place have had problems with drugs and alcohol themselves.
they are human, just like the rest of us.
semp
I'm not surprised that they've had problems themselves, a lot of people who have had problems that work in rehab used to be a drug addict/depression effected and got help and was "cured" of the issue. I know a chiropractor that had chronic depression for 5 years and almost killed himself, but went for help and now he's helping people with their physical body state.
It is true, we are all human, but sometimes I just wish we all weren't filled with flaws.
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:noid ... :furious ... Get off the Drugs! they are not the cure! I would look at the social situation, and personal sense of worth and value! Drugs will help avoid the problem in the short term, counseling and positive life experience "could" dig them out of their mental hole.
Sad/difficult situation no matter how you look at it. :pray
medication is combined with therapy. as for your get off the drugs comment, well keep it to yourself. you arent anybody's doctor here. some of us need medication and your "expert" opinion is just plain stupid.
I have a chemical imbalance and have battled with depression since I was a kid. I didnt ask for help until I was in my late 30's. If i had sought helped my life would have been different and probably would not have attempted to kill myself. my first attempt was at 13 and my last was about 13 years ago. medication didnt "cure" me but it sure did help live a better life. also educating myself about what was "wrong" with me helped.
and just so you know, this condition passes on from generation to generation. my father is like me, just like my kids are. the only difference is that my kids are getting help now instead of when they are in their 30's or 40's like me.
semp
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medication is combined with therapy. as for your get off the drugs comment, well keep it to yourself. you arent anybody's doctor here. some of us need medication and your "expert" opinion is just plain stupid.
I have a chemical imbalance and have battled with depression since I was a kid. I didnt ask for help until I was in my late 30's. If i had sought helped my life would have been different and probably would not have attempted to kill myself. my first attempt was at 13 and my last was about 13 years ago. medication didnt "cure" me but it sure did help live a better life. also educating myself about what was "wrong" with me helped.
and just so you know, this condition passes on from generation to generation. my father is like me, just like my kids are. the only difference is that my kids are getting help now instead of when they are in their 30's or 40's like me.
semp
well glad you never accomplished it, I have been there many times, but my kids have always been my reason not to.
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I live in Wisconsin. Hardly anything ever happens in my area, so I don't think there is any sort of link.
Hell, the county I live in is the highest for suicide rates in all of Wisconsin.
Sounds like the message is "get out of there".
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Sounds like the message is "get out of there".
I'd love to...
But i'm only 16.
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One of the best books I've ever read:
I Don't Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression by Terrence Real
This is a book for all men, don't let the subtitle put you off. There is a lot to learn in this book for everybody, women too, and especially for those who don't "get along" with their father (figure.)
A good friend of mine (therapist) likes to use an analogy of a septic tank to life's problems. Something like this: by about 12-13yrs old your septic tank is nearly full, if during the next 6-8yrs that septic tank is only added to and isn't cleaned out (partially) from time to time, take a guess what happens. That $*&# usually presents itself in the forms of temporary escape(s,) i.e. substance abuse or compulsive behavior.
Re: the book take what you like, leave what you don't, but trust me on one thing, you don't want anxiety/depression/oc behaviors as a result of not cleaning out that tank (therapy) from time to time.
If one has inherited a disorder, medication may be necessary but is usually only successful in combination with therapy. We all have this metaphorical septic tank that stuff has been crammed in.
One last thing, a lot in that septic tank is the result of loss, grieving is the only way to deal with loss. Real MEN do cry, 30yr old+ children abuse substances, etc.
GL
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We've had around 30 soldiers commit suicide at Fort Campbell within the year I been here, Base with the highest rate in the country.
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Mental problems are on the increase due to individuals inability to distinguish between reality and fiction :old:
AH is a prime example of this, those who try to achieve in this game usually end up leaving due to this problem.
The online social network which isolates individuals is also to blame, I have 400 friends on facebook for example.
In the UK you cannot discriminate against someone who is suffering from mental issues, the patients have take over the asylum.
People need to get out more :old:
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:noid ... :furious ... Get off the Drugs! they are not the cure! I would look at the social situation, and personal sense of worth and value! Drugs will help avoid the problem in the short term, counseling and positive life experience "could" dig them out of their mental hole.
Sad/difficult situation no matter how you look at it. :pray
I don't know exactly what she had (what it was called), but it was a naturally occurring imbalance that she was born with. I don't believe she was on any medication for it but was regularly seeing a therapist.
She also wasn't an outcast, quite the opposite rather. She literally had hundreds of friends from school districts around the area. Her and her twin were co-captains for the Cheer squad, when they were juniors.
I believe she had recently broken up with her boyfriend and that was the trigger for her relapse and depression.
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Whenever I hear of a suicide I recall what a suicide attempt survivor said. His chosen method was to jump off of the Golden Gate bridge. He said that as soon as he had jumped he realized everything in his life was totally fixable, except having jumped off of the bridge. He got lucky and lived.
I believe she had recently broken up with her boyfriend and that was the trigger for her relapse and depression.
That kind of event prompted the 17 year old daughter of a co-worker to jump off of the Marin Headlands. Young people, even without medication, tend to blow these things way, way out of proportion and declare bumps in life's road to be the end of life. Sadly, sometimes they act on it.
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Well at about 4:15 PM today someone killed themselves in my area.
What's so special about this? Oh, nothing really, other than the fact that this is the 5th suicide within a 14 month period.
What is up with people just deciding to kill themselves recently? Is this a big issue in other parts of the country, or is the area I live in a special case? I don't think there's a suicide rate as high as the area I live in throughout the neighboring states.
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I don't understand the logic, or perhaps the lack thereof.
How does it ever make sense to off one's self to fix life's problems.
Always seemed the selfish way out. Perhaps ONE person's issues wouldn't have to be dealt with, but it creates a whole LOT of problems for those around you that you won't have to worry about when you are gone...
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I don't understand the logic, or perhaps the lack thereof.
How does it ever make sense to off one's self to fix life's problems.
Mental illness changes the way one works through logic and what makes sense. Mental illness is real. It isn't just rational people making bad decisions.
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Mental illness changes the way one works through logic and what makes sense. Mental illness is real. It isn't just rational people making bad decisions.
I won't contest that, but half of what people call mental illness is a result of terrible parenting and could have been avoided.
Half of teen suicide is from someone not noticing or caring about the signs leading up to it.
Most attempted suicides are cries for help.
If someone really wants to take their own life, they will find a way to do it.
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Lets make it 6 suicides as of today. I was just informed that the kids father has also killed himself after his loss.
I wouldnt be surprised if this turns into a chain reaction and starts spreading.
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medication is combined with therapy. as for your get off the drugs comment, well keep it to yourself. you arent anybody's doctor here. some of us need medication and your "expert" opinion is just plain stupid.
I have a chemical imbalance and have battled with depression since I was a kid. I didnt ask for help until I was in my late 30's. If i had sought helped my life would have been different and probably would not have attempted to kill myself. my first attempt was at 13 and my last was about 13 years ago. medication didnt "cure" me but it sure did help live a better life. also educating myself about what was "wrong" with me helped.
and just so you know, this condition passes on from generation to generation. my father is like me, just like my kids are. the only difference is that my kids are getting help now instead of when they are in their 30's or 40's like me.
semp
A chemical imbalance? and what drug corrects this, is it...
(http://msp291.photobucket.com/albums/ll303/IMAOZI/Signs/FukitalPill.jpg) :noid
Nothing personal...life is a little more complex than my perception. For instance, i dont act off of chemicals in my brain they are simply alien voices. :bolt:
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A chemical imbalance? and what drug corrects this, is it...
(http://msp291.photobucket.com/albums/ll303/IMAOZI/Signs/FukitalPill.jpg) :noid
Nothing personal...life is a little more complex than my perception. For instance, i dont act off of chemicals in my brain they are simply alien voices. :bolt:
well isnt that the medication that adam lanza took that morning?
semp
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i think he OD :uhoh
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I will say this once. It is nessasary to talk. I was really considering killing myself a while back, until I realized I need to grow a pair and deal with life. I was only in 4th grade with no friends so it was tough. Now all I can say without getting to into, a lot of the youth these days are generally wimps/ or they don't have a lot if caring people around them. Even 6 years ago I wanted to shoot mysel in the head. But again I opened up with people and I found out I really didn't want to die. Bottom line kids are dumb wimps :bolt:
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Well at about 4:15 PM today someone killed themselves in my area.
What's so special about this? Oh, nothing really, other than the fact that this is the 5th suicide within a 14 month period.
What is up with people just deciding to kill themselves recently? Is this a big issue in other parts of the country, or is the area I live in a special case? I don't think there's a suicide rate as high as the area I live in throughout the neighboring states.
Oh and to top it off, every single suicide that's happened here has been someone under the age of 18.
Sounds a lot like my area 2 years ago. We had 4 all within 6 months. I was friends with two of them (one of which was married to another friend of mine). All of them were young as well (Under 22).
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If life really gets that bad, don't kill yourself. Volunteer to help others somewhere in the world. So long as you have a pair of hand and/or a voice you can help others. (if you lose your hands in a tragic golfing accident and have your tounge cut out by Somali pirates, fair enough, jump.) But seriously, help others when you can't find a way to help yourself.
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That's wht I was trying to get at. Using myself as a prime example
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If anyone has ever "felt" like killing themselves enough to contemplate it, give thought as to how they would do it, come up with a method that would be better than another, then they are in need of counseling. Sure, I know, there are a lot of ppl going to say that was just a moment and they "felt" better later and that passed and they've never felt that way again...yada yada.
The question anyone in those shoes should be asked is did you do anything to help yourself heal from the damage that got them to that place where they were thinking about suicide. If said person did not, then said damage (hurt, sadness, loss) did not go away. IT GOT STUFFED IN THE SEPTIC TANK. Said person needs therapy and probably professional help to get heading down the right path. Talking with others can be productive, it can also be counter productive too, all depends on who is speaking, listening, giving advice and who is taking the advice. Psychotherapy (counseling, therapy) is not a fly by night/seat of the pants, anyone can do it kinda thing. There are professionals at it who suck, and there are great ones too. Mostly, conventional wisdom - urban legend more like, that's offered to ppl by their elders on this stuff is GARBAGE. Stuff like: "grow a pair," "toughen up," "you're a wimp," it's BS and whoever told someone that they will get "better" by these types of phrases is full of it. People don't heal from wounds by being told they are weak...
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If anyone has ever "felt" like killing themselves enough to contemplate it, give thought as to how they would do it, come up with a method that would be better than another, then they are in need of counseling. Sure, I know, there are a lot of ppl going to say that was just a moment and they "felt" better later and that passed and they've never felt that way again...yada yada.
The question anyone in those shoes should be asked is did you do anything to help yourself heal from the damage that got them to that place where they were thinking about suicide. If said person did not, then said damage (hurt, sadness, loss) did not go away. IT GOT STUFFED IN THE SEPTIC TANK. Said person needs therapy and probably professional help to get heading down the right path. Talking with others can be productive, it can also be counter productive too, all depends on who is speaking, listening, giving advice and who is taking the advice. Psychotherapy (counseling, therapy) is not a fly by night/seat of the pants, anyone can do it kinda thing. There are professionals at it who suck, and there are great ones too. Mostly, conventional wisdom - urban legend more like, that's offered to ppl by their elders on this stuff is GARBAGE. Stuff like: "grow a pair," "toughen up," "you're a wimp," it's BS and whoever told someone that they will get "better" by these types of phrases is full of it. People don't heal from wounds by being told they are weak...
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Going to therapy is a nice way to be labeled as a nutjob for life :D
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Up a Typhoon and buy a pie it works for me :old:
I am awesome in a Typhoon :old:
Vonmessa's beard is a deity and cures all cases of uncertainty :old:
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I am starting to get a complex...
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Going to therapy is a nice way to be labeled as a nutjob for life :D
really? I bet they also make fun of people with brown hair in your country.
semp
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really? I bet they also make fun of people with brown hair in your country.
semp
Hate to tell you, but what he said is true just about anywhere you go...
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Hate to tell you, but what he said is true just about anywhere you go...
not where I live. i know lots of people that have gone to therapy, heck I know people that have been in a mental hospital due to mental disease and nobody calls them nut jobs.
except when i lived in the south, if you saw a therapist, then the horror, you were crazy. what can i say some people over there are weird.
semp
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not where I live. i know lots of people that have gone to therapy, heck I know people that have been in a mental hospital due to mental disease and nobody calls them nut jobs.
except when i lived in the south, if you saw a therapist, then the horror, you were crazy. what can i say some people over there are weird.
semp
http://www.hulu.com/watch/350669 (http://www.hulu.com/watch/350669)
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Going to therapy is a nice way to be labeled as a nutjob for life :D
The real nutjob's probably went to some therapy and told everyone to F themselves. Why do you need to tell anybody that you are in therapy? Discuss things with the therapist, not everyone else...Even if your company insurance was paying for it, none of your co-workers would know.
Labeled as a nutjob, or an actual nutjob...
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My Dad was in a looney bin and I went to visit it was like "One Flew over the cuckoos nest" :)
The people who worked there acted like the nutters, you could not tell the difference :)
Join The GFC we have therapy sessions all the time usually involving abusive word therapy :)
Pipz murdered a dancing bear with a rubber weapon of some description, he said he felt endangered because he does not have the ability to dance in any way or form :old:
The above bear issue was resolved in The GFC discussion group, but we have not begun the process of Pipz showing any remorse for his actions and lack of empathy for the bear community as a whole :old:
ps Each session is priced on a sliding scale, the first 15 minutes is free but we will need your credit cards details before assessment can take place :old:
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One of the major causes of suicides is the common belief that angst and mental breakdowns are signs of weakness and personal failure. The fact is that these conditions are the result of having been strong for too long.
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to the people here who obviously don't have any idea what they are talking about...
count your blessings and kindly shut up.
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I know the Therapy business make serious coin out of this scene :old:
Its starting in the UK :old:
Life is crap with a couple of fun bits here and there :old:
I am awesome so is AH when I an online :)
I am also King James V of the USA :rofl
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zack, your silly antics I'm sure are appreciated at certain times, and certain places. This is neither.
Take it somewhere else, please.
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My Dad was in a looney bin and I went to visit it was like "One Flew over the cuckoos nest" :)
The people who worked there acted like the nutters, you could not tell the difference :)
Join The GFC we have therapy sessions all the time usually involving abusive word therapy :)
Pipz murdered a dancing bear with a rubber weapon of some description, he said he felt endangered because he does not have the ability to dance in any way or form :old:
The above bear issue was resolved in The GFC discussion group, but we have not begun the process of Pipz showing any remorse for his actions and lack of empathy for the bear community as a whole :old:
ps Each session is priced on a sliding scale, the first 15 minutes is free but we will need your credit cards details before assessment can take place :old:
Ok I've read through this thread. And it is a serious issue.
But since I was a paramedic for 14 years I see the dark humor here. I have to confess I laughed pretty hard when I read Zacks post.
Life and death....wow what a topic. Sometimes these things reach out and smack you in the head. I can tell you that when faced with death and then acceptance of the fact....some things take a weird turn.
Many people deal with this in different ways. Humor is one of them. Its not always necessary to take "drugs". Sometimes a good laugh..even if its "politically incorrect" can give much needed perspective.
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Ok I've read through this thread. And it is a serious issue.
But since I was a paramedic for 14 years I see the dark humor here. I have to confess I laughed pretty hard when I read Zacks post.
Life and death....wow what a topic. Sometimes these things reach out and smack you in the head. I can tell you that when faced with death and then acceptance of the fact....some things take a weird turn.
Many people deal with this in different ways. Humor is one of them. Its not always necessary to take "drugs". Sometimes a good laugh..even if its "politically incorrect" can give much needed perspective.
You just said a mouthful.
Agreed 100%
As angry as Zack's post may make some, due to their feelings about someone close to them taking their own life, it completely proves my point about suicide being selfish. It may, perhaps, permanently "fix" a temporarily troubled time in someone's life, while terribly affecting those that care about them for the rest of their lives.
Funerals and grieving aren't for the benefit of the dead, they are for the living.
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I apologize for any offense caused :old:
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Of course I have no idea about this specific case. But in general, any cumulation of suicides in a given area can in turn trigger other sucides, in some cases even showning some 'epidemic' like qualities. This is especially true in young people, which are quick at following the 'example' of their peers.
That's one reason why the media here is very reluctant in publishing anything about juvenile suicide cases.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgend_suicide_incidents
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I don't understand the logic, or perhaps the lack thereof.
How does it ever make sense to off one's self to fix life's problems.
Always seemed the selfish way out. Perhaps ONE person's issues wouldn't have to be dealt with, but it creates a whole LOT of problems for those around you that you won't have to worry about when you are gone...
I've been in that place before. And the above is the reason why I could never have done it. While no one really depended on me at the time I knew that there were many who loved me and would be devastated by losing me (even if it didn't seem like it at the time). I couldn't do that to them. Unfortunately my cousin didn't see things the same way.
And ****, I wanna see what happens to the world. Things might suck right now for a lot of people but we are still moving forward as a race. I wanna see the next battery tech. I wanna see painted solar panels. I wanna see a man on Mars. And I wanna ride my motorcycle. :aok
No matter how bad things are, just know they could be worse. And know that the future is always worth seeing.
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:salute :x
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Very sad...some folks go to places that they lose themselves. They can't find their way back...lots of reasons but it reminds me to remind you guys of that old Dr Seuss line that is so true about each of us:
“Today you are You, that is truer than true. There is no one alive who is Youer than You.”
― Dr. Seuss
They were just kids books but they are relevant for adults...amazing.
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Outstanding and true :)
I am still awesome today as I was yesterday and so is AH even more so :)
Changeup is fabulous but not as much as Redbull but not much less :)
Welcome back Saki your also fabulous :old:
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Hi zack :)
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You just said a mouthful.
Agreed 100%
As angry as Zack's post may make some, due to their feelings about someone close to them taking their own life, it completely proves my point about suicide being selfish. It may, perhaps, permanently "fix" a temporarily troubled time in someone's life, while terribly affecting those that care about them for the rest of their lives.
Funerals and grieving aren't for the benefit of the dead, they are for the living.
It has gone overboard. Zack, you've entered the realm of disrespectful. The OP did not start this thread for you to go around telling ppl how great you are online. Why do you feel the need to comment in this thread about things completely unrelated to a very serious topic of SUICIDE??? Once was funny, twice raised an eyebrow, I'm no longer counting... There's a four lettered phrase I'm surprised hasn't been said yet, its' first word is shut.
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If you think I am going to start blubbering and making everyone depressed it not happening :)
Hi Redbull :banana:
Suicide don't do it, there is always tomorrow :old:
Things are always more serious when your young :old:
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If you think I am going to start blubbering and making everyone depressed it not happening :)
Hi Redbull :banana:
Suicide don't do it, there is always tomorrow :old:
Things are always more serious when your young :old:
Why so serious?
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:rofl
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Selfish...
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times_news/suicide-leads-to-deaths-in-milford/article_b011d4f3-9acd-5d95-852c-7b3ec06ff312.html (http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times_news/suicide-leads-to-deaths-in-milford/article_b011d4f3-9acd-5d95-852c-7b3ec06ff312.html)
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Skorpx, you talk about suicide a huge amount :confused:
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Well at about 4:15 PM today someone killed themselves in my area.
What's so special about this? Oh, nothing really, other than the fact that this is the 5th suicide within a 14 month period.
What is up with people just deciding to kill themselves recently? Is this a big issue in other parts of the country, or is the area I live in a special case? I don't think there's a suicide rate as high as the area I live in throughout the neighboring states.
Oh and to top it off, every single suicide that's happened here has been someone under the age of 18.
Its your area..... could be 2 things..if it was both male and female, and it was by afixia, it could be that kids are playing choked.. they take turns choking them self.... my 2nd thought..serial killer that makes scene look like suicide.. could be another BTK..I say you contact the FBI
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Could be EMO kids that get so wound up by everything as a matter of course and somehow think suicide is cool. Very very hard to disguise murder as suicide theae days
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Could be EMO kids that get so wound up by everything as a matter of course and somehow think suicide is cool. Very very hard to disguise murder as suicide theae days
True.
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Its your area..... could be 2 things..if it was both male and female, and it was by afixia, it could be that kids are playing choked.. they take turns choking them self.... my 2nd thought..serial killer that makes scene look like suicide.. could be another BTK..I say you contact the FBI
It was nothing like what you said it was, both suicides here were male and neither of them were playing that game. The kids in my area aren't stupid enough to do that to themselves.
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It was nothing like what you said it was, both suicides here were male and neither of them were playing that game. The kids in my area aren't stupid enough to do that to themselves.
Both means 2.... wtf I'm sorry I thought the title was 5th suicide... :huh. ...in that case if it was only 2 and both males, since its your neighborhood, I will say they were both secret lovers on a suicide pact.
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Both means 2.... wtf I'm sorry I thought the title was 5th suicide... :huh. ...in that case if it was only 2 and both males, since its your neighborhood, I will say they were both secret lovers on a suicide pact.
I take it you didn't read more than the OP and a few posts, so let me explain.
The kid killed himself, then his dad killed himself. The kid went because of being gay or so i'm told, and his dad went because well, he couldn't deal with it.
Please try to keep your un-educated comments to yourself.
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I take it you didn't read more than the OP and a few posts, so let me explain.
The kid killed himself, then his dad killed himself. The kid went because of being gay or so i'm told, and his dad went because well, he couldn't deal with it.
Please try to keep your un-educated comments to yourself.
WTF. I LMFAO. I only read the main topic post, thought it had all I need it to know.... wow what is funny to me is that I just mentioned the gay thing out there aimed at you but it really was a gay issue. Sad, intolerant ignorant father, but now I know it really is your area only, your community must be seriously intolerant and ignorant, just like you.
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my gf's therapist committed suicide 3 weeks ago. he had battled depression for years. that only tells you that nobody is immune.
semp
they lost a doctor two weeks ago and a PA 2 days ago to suicide. we knew all 3 of them. the PA was so beautiful, she had a fight with the husband as they worked together then she left and killed herself.
all 3 of them worked at the same hospital. all 3 of them had very successful careers.
I can understand why somebody would feel doing that, as I tried that, but on the other hand I am happy I wasnt successful as I would have missed a lot.
I used to think that life wasnt worth living 'till I figured out that we may only get one chance in this life and might as well try to work things out. after all, we are all gonna die, hopefully later than sooner.
semp