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Title: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 20, 2013, 07:10:57 PM
I'm going to have to get one of these Hennessy Velociraptors.

Maybe two.

Or ten.

Possibly 50.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlsI05o_Mro
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 20, 2013, 08:20:59 PM
"for $70 grand out the door"


Looks like fun if your the kind that can afford to use $100 bills to light your cigars
I cant possibly think of a worse investment for your money though.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 20, 2013, 10:32:31 PM
Lolz 70k.... I just bought a 07 duramax and it would stomp that truck out.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 20, 2013, 10:41:30 PM
Lolz 70k.... I just bought a 07 duramax and it would stomp that truck out.

Would you like to put that to the test?


Chevy's are nice, but they cant beat a Velociraptor.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: WEZEL on August 20, 2013, 10:44:58 PM
Do it yourself for cheaper, Henesse uses a Roush charger and store bought parts, just need to get the tune for the pcm and I have that  :noid

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350610.msg4634366.html#msg4634366
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zacherof on August 20, 2013, 11:07:19 PM
Would you like to put that to the test?


Chevy's are nice, but they cant beat a Velociraptor.
Lol That's funny!!!!! :rofl
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 20, 2013, 11:19:26 PM
Lol That's funny!!!!! :rofl


Go ahead and get a Silverado 2500 and do everything the guy did in the video, then go get your Duramax sponsored by multiple companies in rally races and then go get multiple TORC wins, just like the Raptor has.


I'll be waiting.


Oh wait.

https://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#fp=ba3d8d8d0319feec&q=Duramax+rally+trucks&safe=off
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zacherof on August 20, 2013, 11:27:50 PM
Im just a born and raised Chevy guy.
Although I love modded out Gt stAngs :D
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 20, 2013, 11:30:55 PM
the raptors are pretty impressive trucks right from the factory. there's not really a lot that needs to be done to these at all. performance-wise, it's probably the best pickup out there right now.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 20, 2013, 11:32:08 PM
Im just a born and raised Chevy guy.
Although I love modded out Gt stAngs :D


 you don't need to mod a stang these days to hammer just about anything out there....short of a vette, or euro stuff that costs much more...... :aok
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 20, 2013, 11:45:49 PM
Im just a born and raised Chevy guy.
Although I love modded out Gt stAngs :D


Stock GT500 Super Snakes have about 660 Horsepower while ZL1/ZR1's have about 580-630.

Ford is pretty much beating the crap out of the competition these days.



Too bad Dodge fell way behind. The new Chargers/Challengers suck it harder than the Camaro and Corvette.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: saggs on August 21, 2013, 03:47:08 AM
All I know is John Hennessey be crazy.  

The Hennessey Venom GT proves it, who else would think    "1,250 bhp in a Lotus?.... Yeaaaaa... that sounds reasonable."  

**yes, yes before the internet "experts jump all over me, I know that there is very little 'Lotus' left when Hennessey is done with it.**


I'd guess it's an ego or bragging rights thing for him, since he can now say they build a production car that will destroy any European supercar.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 07:51:43 AM
Stock GT500 Super Snakes have about 660 Horsepower while ZL1/ZR1's have about 580-630.

Ford is pretty much beating the crap out of the competition these days.



Too bad Dodge fell way behind. The new Chargers/Challengers suck it harder than the Camaro and Corvette.

 the gt500, and the gt500 supersnake are 2 different vehicles. the gt500 is entirely built at fords plant, and is rated at 662hp. they run 12's, and will get into the 10's with very little work. they run the road courses equal to, or better than the zl1.
 the supersnake, is an extra option on top of the gt500. for that option, it's shipped to shelby in kalifornia, and he does his thing. those i think are in the 800-900hp range.

 the camaros and corvettes don't suck. not by a long shot. the camaro is a very respectable car, that i feel chevy dropped the ball on, as they're EASILY capable of making it sooooo much better. but as they are, they are still VERY impressive, VERY good cars.
 the corvettes.....those are still in a class of their own......

 
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 07:52:49 AM
All I know is John Hennessey be crazy.  

The Hennessey Venom GT proves it, who else would think    "1,250 bhp in a Lotus?.... Yeaaaaa... that sounds reasonable."  

**yes, yes before the internet "experts jump all over me, I know that there is very little 'Lotus' left when Hennessey is done with it.**


I'd guess it's an ego or bragging rights thing for him, since he can now say they build a production car that will destroy any European supercar.

 i thought bugatti did some mods to the veyron, and outran the venom?
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: uptown on August 21, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
16 grand for 600hp? :rofl Give me 16k and I'll build you a motor with 600 horses and pocket 8 grand. A fool and his money........................ ......
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: deadstikmac on August 21, 2013, 08:38:52 AM
Thought you guys brought out the inner geek.... 10,000 rpm hard drives.... Nope a badass truck!  :x
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Reaper90 on August 21, 2013, 08:51:43 AM
Stock GT500 Super Snakes have about 660 Horsepower while ZL1/ZR1's have about 580-630.

Ford is pretty much beating the crap out of the competition these days.



Too bad Dodge fell way behind. The new Chargers/Challengers suck it harder than the Camaro and Corvette.

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

some days its just fun to come to the intardwebs and read the stupids.

Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 09:09:09 AM
16 grand for 600hp? :rofl Give me 16k and I'll build you a motor with 600 horses and pocket 8 grand. A fool and his money........................ ......

That's probably what Hennessy is doing, and if he is its a damn good way to make money.




 the camaros and corvettes don't suck. not by a long shot. the camaro is a very respectable car, that i feel chevy dropped the ball on, as they're EASILY capable of making it sooooo much better. but as they are, they are still VERY impressive, VERY good cars.
 the corvettes.....those are still in a class of their own......

 

I never said the Camaro/Corvette suck. I just said Dodge is failing much harder than Chevy.


Of course i'm a Ford/Chevy guy so I gotta have some bias towards those two brands.  :D
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zoney on August 21, 2013, 10:45:58 AM
Hey SkorpX what is it that you are currently driving?
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Reaper90 on August 21, 2013, 11:19:02 AM
I never said the Camaro/Corvette suck. I just said Dodge is failing much harder than Chevy.

Quote from: skorpx1
The new Chargers/Challengers suck it harder than the Camaro and Corvette.

ORLY?

To say "suck it harder" you're implying the Camaro and Corvette suck, but the dodge sucks more.

Look up some lap times for your Stangs. Try the C&D Lightning Lap at VIR. See what your 'lil Ponies are actually doing on a road course.

Massive HP gives the Mustangs an edge over the Camaro in a straight line. Put them on the race track and the pony is a pig, even the GT350 (maybe the GT500, I don't remember) only held off the ZL1 Camaro for a couple laps, then the Camaro started to reel it in. If it were even a 30 minute sprint race the Ford would be lapped.

Don't even mention Mustang and Corvette in the same sentence, you'll look stupid...er.

Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 11:20:56 AM
Hey SkorpX what is it that you are currently driving?

As of now, an '06 Ford Escape SUV for getting my required 30 hrs. of driving time for Drivers Ed.



ORLY?

To say "suck it harder" you're implying the Camaro and Corvette suck, but the dodge sucks more.

Look up some lap times for your Stangs. Try the C&D Lightning Lap at VIR. See what your 'lil Ponies are actually doing on a road course.

Massive HP gives the Mustangs an edge over the Camaro in a straight line. Put them on the race track and the pony is a pig, even the GT350 (maybe the GT500, I don't remember) only held off the ZL1 Camaro for a couple laps, then the Camaro started to reel it in. If it were even a 30 minute sprint race the Ford would be lapped.

Don't even mention Mustang and Corvette in the same sentence, you'll look stupid...er.



Sprint races aren't circuits, Sir Genius.

You cant get "lapped" in a sprint.


I see that I got all the Chevy guys butthurt here, and I love it.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Reaper90 on August 21, 2013, 01:31:48 PM
As of now, an '06 Ford Escape SUV for getting my required 30 hrs. of driving time for Drivers Ed.



Sprint races aren't circuits, Sir Genius.

You cant get "lapped" in a sprint.


I see that I got all the Chevy guys butthurt here, and I love it.

WTF is a circuit? A sprint race is generally a road course race less than an hour long. An endurance race is generally 1.5 hour or longer. At least all of the racing organizations I've raced with structure it that way. Pro series like World Challenge and Grand Am are the same.

And I've lapped plenty of cars 30 min in sprint races.

You suffer from rectal cranial insertion disorder, kid.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 21, 2013, 01:36:16 PM
Go ahead and get a Silverado 2500 and do everything the guy did in the video, then go get your Duramax sponsored by multiple companies in rally races and then go get multiple TORC wins, just like the Raptor has.


I'll be waiting.


Oh wait.

https://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#fp=ba3d8d8d0319feec&q=Duramax+rally+trucks&safe=off
lol all he did in a video was go around a few muddy corners and floor it. The dyno run wasn't even all that impressive. If I'm paying pretty much 70k I want truck that can put atleast 600 rwhp down. Paid 17k for my truck and put EFI live tuning with exhaust and lift pump and I'm putting down ~470 rwhp and ~850tq. THats with stock turbo, tranny, intake, and engine components.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 21, 2013, 01:41:19 PM
3-6 mpg = fail  :rofl
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 21, 2013, 01:42:32 PM
3-6 mpg = fail  :rofl
bring up another point.


I'm also getting 18.63 in a 3/4 ton  :cool:
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zacherof on August 21, 2013, 02:01:54 PM
MEh. im just happy it will only cost 5 grand to fix my K5 blazer :banana:
which is better than a bronco :neener:
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 02:40:01 PM
That's probably what Hennessy is doing, and if he is its a damn good way to make money.



I never said the Camaro/Corvette suck. I just said Dodge is failing much harder than Chevy.


Of course i'm a Ford/Chevy guy so I gotta have some bias towards those two brands.  :D

 the point i was making, is that chevy's not sucking. nor is dodge for that matter.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 02:42:18 PM
ORLY?

To say "suck it harder" you're implying the Camaro and Corvette suck, but the dodge sucks more.

Look up some lap times for your Stangs. Try the C&D Lightning Lap at VIR. See what your 'lil Ponies are actually doing on a road course.

Massive HP gives the Mustangs an edge over the Camaro in a straight line. Put them on the race track and the pony is a pig, even the GT350 (maybe the GT500, I don't remember) only held off the ZL1 Camaro for a couple laps, then the Camaro started to reel it in. If it were even a 30 minute sprint race the Ford would be lapped.

Don't even mention Mustang and Corvette in the same sentence, you'll look stupid...er.



 look up revan racings mustang runs. their bone stock gt500 pretty much pummeled a modified zl1.  :aok
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
MEh. im just happy it will only cost 5 grand to fix my K5 blazer :banana:
which is better than a bronco :neener:

 this i agree with. never liked broncos.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Slate on August 21, 2013, 03:15:41 PM
  My 2 cents on diesels...... 

 GM dealer mechanic so I'm somewhat biased going in. That said GM's Duramax is indeed mostly designed by Isuzu in partnership with GM. It is the quietest smoothest diesel I've encountered and there is special programming for emergency vehicles to squeeze out even more performance. Mated with an Allison trans it's tough to beat on reliability.
    Ford has had many problems with it's diesel designs and change them frequently. I hear good things about the new ones but the 6.0 had problems.
    Dodge of course uses a Cummins Diesel that is well proven and a torque monster but horsepower was never the goal. Just don't order at a Drive Through without shutting off the engine.  :D Dodge's weak point I believe is their trans and needs to be beefed up to match the Cummins.

   We all argue about whose better but all these trucks are running the roads every day and Mechanics like me will never run out of work on them.   :aok  

   Don't get me started on Toyota and the way they deceived the public on reliability.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 03:38:06 PM
lol all he did in a video was go around a few muddy corners and floor it. The dyno run wasn't even all that impressive. If I'm paying pretty much 70k I want truck that can put atleast 600 rwhp down. Paid 17k for my truck and put EFI live tuning with exhaust and lift pump and I'm putting down ~470 rwhp and ~850tq. THats with stock turbo, tranny, intake, and engine components.

Did you pay for it or did mommy and daddy pay for it, just like your other cars?

If you wanna see a real Rally Raptor look no further.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-stgwIz84g

In this one Andy McMillin has modified his Raptor to take on the Baja 500. Cant run anything stock on that track or you'll screw over your truck faster than throwing it into a lake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUolnTdZTH0



I still have yet to see a Chevy or Dodge in any kind of off-road rally races - as for MPG that doesn't matter when you're out having fun in the mud. Not to mention the Raptor wasn't made to be efficient, it was made to be powerful.



MEh. im just happy it will only cost 5 grand to fix my K5 blazer :banana:
which is better than a bronco :neener:

I doubt anyone here really liked the Bronco. I'd take a Blazer over the Bronco any day.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Reaper90 on August 21, 2013, 03:44:14 PM
look up revan racings mustang runs. their bone stock gt500 pretty much pummeled a modified zl1.  :aok

you back on drag racing?
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 03:51:38 PM
 My 2 cents on diesels...... 

 GM dealer mechanic so I'm somewhat biased going in. That said GM's Duramax is indeed mostly designed by Isuzu in partnership with GM. It is the quietest smoothest diesel I've encountered and there is special programming for emergency vehicles to squeeze out even more performance. Mated with an Allison trans it's tough to beat on reliability.
    Ford has had many problems with it's diesel designs and change them frequently. I hear good things about the new ones but the 6.0 had problems.
    Dodge of course uses a Cummins Diesel that is well proven and a torque monster but horsepower was never the goal. Just don't order at a Drive Through without shutting off the engine.  :D Dodge's weak point I believe is their trans and needs to be beefed up to match the Cummins.

   We all argue about whose better but all these trucks are running the roads every day and Mechanics like me will never run out of work on them.   :aok  

   Don't get me started on Toyota and the way they deceived the public on reliability.

 the only diesels ford used that i liked were the 7.3's. but i don't think those were fords.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 03:52:40 PM
you back on drag racing?


 nosir.

 homestead raceway.

 randy pobst took a zl around laguna, then a shelby. the shelby outlapped the zl there too.

 it's about 50-50, on roadcourses that the shelby can take the zl. it handles well enough(although not as well as the zl) that if it's not in front, all its driver needs is a good straight run to get out front...then it handles well enough to stay there.....but admittedly it needs that straight run.

 what will be really interesting, is when they go to independent rear.

 and i'm not bashing the chevys.....i like em all, as all of you guys should know already.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Dragon on August 21, 2013, 03:52:54 PM


<---gets the popcorn, waits for first purse swing..........      :x
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 03:54:36 PM

<---gets the popcorn, waits for first purse swing..........      :x


You spoke up so you're the first contestant, my good sir.


(Just imagine the glove as a purse instead)

(http://www.headlineasia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hit-in-the-face.jpg)
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: whiteman on August 21, 2013, 04:14:46 PM
I still have yet to see a Chevy or Dodge in any kind of off-road rally races - as for MPG that doesn't matter when you're out having fun in the mud. Not to mention the Raptor wasn't made to be efficient, it was made to be powerful.

How hard are you looking, like are you looking at all?
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 04:20:25 PM
How hard are you looking, like are you looking at all?

I googled it, didn't turn up any results for a true rally race truck. All I got was the power they produced and the models you can get.



Also, if you like big trucks then check this one out - 2014 Ford Tremor.
http://cars.chicagotribune.com/fuel-efficient/news/chi-2014-ford-f150-tremor-20130815
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: whiteman on August 21, 2013, 04:32:49 PM
I googled it, didn't turn up any results for a true rally race truck. All I got was the power they produced and the models you can get.



Also, if you like big trucks then check this one out - 2014 Ford Tremor.
http://cars.chicagotribune.com/fuel-efficient/news/chi-2014-ford-f150-tremor-20130815

Baja 500 Trophy Truck category had everything. Or are you looking for modified trucks bought off showroom floors? If so just look up prerunners, seen a couple of these in my area.

(http://images.off-roadweb.com/features/0402or_10z+2002_Chevrolet_Silverado_Prerunner+Front_Driver_Side_View.jpg)
(http://image.off-roadweb.com/f/9382573+w750+st0/0705or_01_z+2006_chevy_silverado_prerunner+front_angle.jpg)
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 04:36:13 PM
Baja 500 Trophy Truck category had everything. Or are you looking for modified trucks bought off showroom floors? If so just look up prerunners, seen a couple of these in my area.

(http://images.off-roadweb.com/features/0402or_10z+2002_Chevrolet_Silverado_Prerunner+Front_Driver_Side_View.jpg)
(http://image.off-roadweb.com/f/9382573+w750+st0/0705or_01_z+2006_chevy_silverado_prerunner+front_angle.jpg)



I was looking more towards modified. You cant bring a stock truck to a Baja 500, let alone any true rally race. You'll end up killing that truck quite fast.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: whiteman on August 21, 2013, 04:38:40 PM


I was looking more towards modified. You cant bring a stock truck to a Baja 500, let alone any true rally race. You'll end up killing that truck quite fast.


There are plenty of Chevy and even GMC trucks running offroad events. One of many

(http://image.trucktrend.com/f/features/news/2009/16619737+w640/163_news090128_00l+robby_gordon_chevy_silverado+side_view.jpg)
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 04:40:47 PM
There are plenty of Chevy and even GMC trucks running offroad events. One of many

(http://image.trucktrend.com/f/features/news/2009/16619737+w640/163_news090128_00l+robby_gordon_chevy_silverado+side_view.jpg)

Aren't Chevy/GMC the same thing but with different names? Kind of like Lincoln/Mercury?
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: whiteman on August 21, 2013, 04:43:38 PM
Aren't Chevy/GMC the same thing but with different names? Kind of like Lincoln/Mercury?

GMC's are nicer and generally you just see Chevy badged trophy trucks
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: morfiend on August 21, 2013, 04:47:52 PM


 what will be really interesting, is when they go to independent rear.

  


 Cap, IIRC ford tried an independent rearend in the Tbird in the late 80's. I think it was a BMW design but I could be wrong. I drove both the turbo and V8 versions,which were fox platforms. While they didn't make big power the turbo version was much better,I suspect because of the reduced weight over the front.

  Personally I think they need to move the motor back and use an IRS,close to a 50/50 weight as they can get,then the stangs will be "interesting"!



    
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 05:28:09 PM
Aren't Chevy/GMC the same thing but with different names? Kind of like Lincoln/Mercury?

 lincoln and mercury are not the same.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 05:32:31 PM
lincoln and mercury are not the same.

Meant to say Lincon/Ford.

:o
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 05:33:50 PM

 Cap, IIRC ford tried an independent rearend in the Tbird in the late 80's. I think it was a BMW design but I could be wrong. I drove both the turbo and V8 versions,which were fox platforms. While they didn't make big power the turbo version was much better,I suspect because of the reduced weight over the front.

  Personally I think they need to move the motor back and use an IRS,close to a 50/50 weight as they can get,then the stangs will be "interesting"!



    

 they did. it sucked. it sucked big time. it sucked so bad, that saying it sucked is an understatement.

 they're apparently trying it again. supposedly the 2015 is supposed to be irs. i'm almost suspecting it's gonna be based on an aston, as some of fords little cars have aston looking noses.......
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 05:35:13 PM
Meant to say Lincon/Ford.

:o
lincoln and ford are not the same.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Reaper90 on August 21, 2013, 05:36:04 PM
nosir.

 homestead raceway.

 randy pobst took a zl around laguna, then a shelby. the shelby outlapped the zl there too.

 it's about 50-50, on roadcourses that the shelby can take the zl. it handles well enough(although not as well as the zl) that if it's not in front, all its driver needs is a good straight run to get out front...then it handles well enough to stay there.....but admittedly it needs that straight run.

 what will be really interesting, is when they go to independent rear.

 and i'm not bashing the chevys.....i like em all, as all of you guys should know already.

Yes, I remember that. I actually posted that vid a while back when one of these discussions came up. IIRC Pobst commented that the Stang was faster than the Camaro... for about 1-2 laps. Then the Stang started suffering bad from brake fade, and the ZL1 was rock solid, lap after lap. If it was a whole race and not a single lap shoot-out for best time, The ZL1 would pass the Mustang on lap 3 or 4, and never look back.

I'm still trying to figure out WTF Skorp was talking about with "circuits." He talking about electrical crap? Hmmm.... maybe when he finishes learning to drive, he'll enlighten us.  :rofl

Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Reaper90 on August 21, 2013, 05:45:02 PM
lincoln and ford are not the same.

Mercury and Ford are a lot closer.....Lincoln is a lux brand, and different across the model lines.

Like Caddy is GM but not a chevy in different clothes.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
lincoln and ford are not the same.

You sure?

I'm not saying this is cant be a coincidence or anything buuuuuuuuut....


This
(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2007/08/20/15/16/2007_ford_f-150_fx2-pic-51724.jpeg)

Looks exactly like this.
(http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/10_copy_28.jpg)
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: whiteman on August 21, 2013, 05:50:05 PM
You sure?

I'm not saying this is cant be a coincidence or anything buuuuuuuuut....


This
(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2007/08/20/15/16/2007_ford_f-150_fx2-pic-51724.jpeg)

Looks exactly like this.
(http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/10_copy_28.jpg)

1 bad idea isn't the rule
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Reaper90 on August 21, 2013, 05:56:24 PM
trucks are a different story..... there is no Ford version of a Lincoln Town Car, but the LTD and Mercury Marquis are the same animal, just one has stripes and the other spots.

Also, see Yukon Denali, Tahoe, Escalade... different flavors of the same basic thing.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Rich46yo on August 21, 2013, 06:13:49 PM
Ford trucks rock. They saved the Ford corp. Unfortunately they are so good , and popular, you cant find very good deals on them. I ended up buying a Nissan Titan. Its been a good truck, and powerful, but Nissan blows as a company. I'd have rather had a F-150.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 06:21:58 PM
Yes, I remember that. I actually posted that vid a while back when one of these discussions came up. IIRC Pobst commented that the Stang was faster than the Camaro... for about 1-2 laps. Then the Stang started suffering bad from brake fade, and the ZL1 was rock solid, lap after lap. If it was a whole race and not a single lap shoot-out for best time, The ZL1 would pass the Mustang on lap 3 or 4, and never look back.

I'm still trying to figure out WTF Skorp was talking about with "circuits." He talking about electrical crap? Hmmm.... maybe when he finishes learning to drive, he'll enlighten us.  :rofl



 i've no clue there either. i thinnk he's just planting the hook.

 pobst said a couple things about the stang. yet revan racing ran 20 minute stints down at homestead, with no problems. they were walking the zl in lap after lap, till the zl had a heatsoak problem, lost power, then it was all over. this was a zl with a bigger intercooler if i recall.

 to be honest, i'm still trying to figure out the brake fade thing on the stangs, 'cause they have the same basic brake system as the zl, 'cept they weigh about 400# less. there should be no brake fade....unless they're still using dot3 brake fluid, then it may be getting too hot........
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 06:23:10 PM
Mercury and Ford are a lot closer.....Lincoln is a lux brand, and different across the model lines.

Like Caddy is GM but not a chevy in different clothes.

 mercury was always more luxury oriented than ford. look at the couger/mustang. everyone used to think those were the same. they weren't. even the fox bodied ones had differences.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 06:23:46 PM
You sure?

I'm not saying this is cant be a coincidence or anything buuuuuuuuut....


This
(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2007/08/20/15/16/2007_ford_f-150_fx2-pic-51724.jpeg)

Looks exactly like this.
(http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/10_copy_28.jpg)

 yea, and i could go to the navigator/expedition too. but they ARE different vehicles.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: morfiend on August 21, 2013, 06:50:18 PM
Mercury and Ford are a lot closer.....Lincoln is a lux brand, and different across the model lines.

Like Caddy is GM but not a chevy in different clothes.


  That's not quite true,mercs are gone now but for a long time the only difference between a ford and merc were the details,both cars were built on the same line. Ford faimount/merc future were exactly the same car except some trim or other such nonsense.

  Maveric/comet  pinto/bobcat  mustang/capri   CrownVic,Marquis and some towncars same thing.

   You need to go back to the early 60's late 50's to find a real difference,there are a few exceptions of course but platform sharing has been going on for a long time now.

  Few realize the new smaller GM's are really opels that are rebadged and assembled here.


  YMMV.



   :salute
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 06:56:57 PM

  That's not quite true,mercs are gone now but for a long time the only difference between a ford and merc were the details,both cars were built on the same line. Ford faimount/merc future were exactly the same car except some trim or other such nonsense.

  Maveric/comet  pinto/bobcat  mustang/capri   CrownVic,Marquis and some towncars same thing.

   You need to go back to the early 60's late 50's to find a real difference,there are a few exceptions of course but platform sharing has been going on for a long time now.

  Few realize the new smaller GM's are really opels that are rebadged and assembled here.


  YMMV.



   :salute

 didn't the cadi cts's use a saab based drivetrain?
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Reaper90 on August 21, 2013, 07:20:36 PM

  That's not quite true

 :headscratch:

Quote
mercs are gone now but for a long time the only difference between a ford and merc were the details,both cars were built on the same line. Ford faimount/merc future were exactly the same car except some trim or other such nonsense.

  Maveric/comet  pinto/bobcat  mustang/capri   CrownVic,Marquis and some towncars same thing.

I don't understand what's not quite true... we're saying the same thing.

 :headscratch:



 
Quote
Few realize the new smaller GM's are really opels that are rebadged and assembled here.

The last GM North America model based on an Opel that I can recall was the Cadillac Catera from the late '90's. You're thinking Holden, GM's subsidiary in Australia. The Pontiac GTO was a rebadged Holden, and IIRC the Sigma platform (FE RWD V8 sedan) that is the basis for a lot of the current and near future GM sedan (including the Caddy CTS and new Chevy SS) originated in Australia.

I love the Aussie V8 Supercar Series.... nothing like LS powered Holden sedans with sequential gearboxes on a roadcourse....pushing a bunch of Fords out of the way   :t  ..... NASCAR could learn something from the Aussies.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Reaper90 on August 21, 2013, 07:25:48 PM
didn't the cadi cts's use a saab based drivetrain?


eeeewwww, no, yuk. What GM did to SAAB was take the Chevy Trailblazer and rebadge it as a SAAB SUV...... and try to pass it off as a SAAB. In reality it was just a Trailblazer with even uglier headlights and grill.

Truthfully, tho, I don't know about the base CTS sedan mechanicals. The CTS-V drivetrain def was not SAAB, but the base V6 could well have been.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 07:43:02 PM
Ford trucks rock. They saved the Ford corp. Unfortunately they are so good , and popular, you cant find very good deals on them. I ended up buying a Nissan Titan. Its been a good truck, and powerful, but Nissan blows as a company. I'd have rather had a F-150.

I'd like to know how Nissan "blows as a company."

They make some good cars/trucks, and I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a Fairlady 350z or a Skyline R34.


Hell. I might even go as far as getting an R35.


yea, and i could go to the navigator/expedition too. but they ARE different vehicles.

So how exactly are they different? I don't see any difference body-wise as to a few minor details. My friend's Mercury Sable is pretty much the same as a Taurus except the engine is a lot more complicated to work on - according to him.


Same body/interior but different engines?

Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: kappa on August 21, 2013, 07:45:02 PM
i've no clue there either. i thinnk he's just planting the hook.

 pobst said a couple things about the stang. yet revan racing ran 20 minute stints down at homestead, with no problems. they were walking the zl in lap after lap, till the zl had a heatsoak problem, lost power, then it was all over. this was a zl with a bigger intercooler if i recall.

 to be honest, i'm still trying to figure out the brake fade thing on the stangs, 'cause they have the same basic brake system as the zl, 'cept they weigh about 400# less. there should be no brake fade....unless they're still using dot3 brake fluid, then it may be getting too hot........

is this

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/2013-shelby-gt500-413/860621-revan-racing-2013-gt500-vs-torq-zl1-track-homestead-6-30-2012-a-3.html

the comparison you're talking about? If so that is pretty funny.. hehe Two track folk 'with a lot of track days' is giggle worthy but both cars are modded.. So that kinda opens up a whole new world..  :noid

Dot4 brake fluid is not used in production cars that I know of..

The Zl1 did 7:41 at the ring... hehe  :devil

The Z/28 is gonna be a monster for sure though.. Rumors are it beat the ZL1 by 3secs at Milford and faster at VIR as well..  They expect the Z/28 to be in the 7:30s at the ring.. Which will be the fastest bang for the buck you can find.. haha
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 21, 2013, 07:49:57 PM
Did you pay for it or did mommy and daddy pay for it, just like your other cars?

If you wanna see a real Rally Raptor look no further.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-stgwIz84g

In this one Andy McMillin has modified his Raptor to take on the Baja 500. Cant run anything stock on that track or you'll screw over your truck faster than throwing it into a lake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
lol what exactly had been paid by my mom and dad?  I had 2 old cop cars bought at auction price. Sold them! Bought an f150 for 7500 that I saved up and from selling the cop cars. I just bought this 07 by selling the f150 for 13000 and selling my snowmobile for 4500. Tyvm

And you think I'm going to rally a diesel? Lmao ohkay tard, take that truck to a drag strip or a self pull and see where a true truck comes in to play.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 07:57:57 PM
lol what exactly had been paid by my mom and dad?  I had 2 old cop cars bought at auction price. Sold them! Bought an f150 for 7500 that I saved up and from selling the cop cars. I just bought this 07 by selling the f150 for 13000 and selling my snowmobile for 4500. Tyvm

And you think I'm going to rally a diesel? Lmao ohkay tard, take that truck to a drag strip or a self pull and see where a true truck comes in to play.


So you had a good 5 grand to throw out on 2 cop cars? Possible, but I saw an alien last week. He tried to steal my cookie jar.


You say you also got 13k out of an '07 F150?

Bull. They didn't even go for 13k at the dealership brand-spankin-new. KBB says that at perfect condition with low mileage the F-150 would go for 8.8k max at a dealership. No way anyone was retarded enough to give you 13k for an '07 F150.

http://www.kbb.com/ford/f150-regular-cab/2007-ford-f150-regular-cab/xl-pickup-2d-8-ft/?condition=excellent&vehicleid=349449&intent=buy-used&options=4161516%7ctrue%7c4161544%7ctrue%7c4161546%7ctrue&pricetype=retail


Btw rallying in a diesel isn't the worst thing you can do. Having much more torque/power will help a hell of alot more than not having it in the mud and sand.

Have you ever watched a rally race? People do bring diesels to them.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Nashorn on August 21, 2013, 07:59:50 PM
skorpx1, diesels are not as good for rallies as gasoline engines, they rev to slow, and move way to much weight to the front end
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 08:00:54 PM
skorpx1, diesels are not as good for rallies as gasoline engines, they rev to slow, and move way to much weight to the front end

That doesn't stop people from bringing them in.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Nashorn on August 21, 2013, 08:02:20 PM
I have never seen a diesel at a rally race tbh
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 08:04:58 PM
I have never seen a diesel at a rally race tbh

Well let me do you a favor and find one for you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjA179_h_i0
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Nashorn on August 21, 2013, 08:09:36 PM
http://youtu.be/_UftFugurcE (http://youtu.be/_UftFugurcE) driver is a friend of a friend, footage from the Canadian rally championship last year, all I saw in your vid was a truck in the desert doing nothing
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 08:11:42 PM
http://youtu.be/_UftFugurcE (http://youtu.be/_UftFugurcE) driver is a friend of a friend, footage from the Canadian rally championship last year, all I saw in your vid was a truck in the desert doing nothing

The video was to show that diesel rally trucks exist.


It doesn't make much sense to build a diesel rally truck and then never use it in a real rally, unless you like throwing away well over 300k for  no apparent reason.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: whiteman on August 21, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
That truck is the furthest thing from a ralley or off road racer. Maybe use it to pull one but that's about it.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 21, 2013, 08:33:34 PM
Not only do they race diesels, they win with them.

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/jan2010/bw20100119_565428.htm
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1085012_audi-e-tron-quattro-diesel-hybrid-race-car-wins-le-mans-24-hours-race

Now excuse me I have to jump into my MB C320 CDI 4matic for a 550km drive to work  :rock
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 09:03:53 PM

eeeewwww, no, yuk. What GM did to SAAB was take the Chevy Trailblazer and rebadge it as a SAAB SUV...... and try to pass it off as a SAAB. In reality it was just a Trailblazer with even uglier headlights and grill.

Truthfully, tho, I don't know about the base CTS sedan mechanicals. The CTS-V drivetrain def was not SAAB, but the base V6 could well have been.
i knew the "V" wasn't saab based. the 6 banger i think was. it sure as #%$^% wasn't a gm engine in that heap o trash.......
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 21, 2013, 09:06:42 PM
I'd like to know how Nissan "blows as a company."

They make some good cars/trucks, and I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a Fairlady 350z or a Skyline R34.


Hell. I might even go as far as getting an R35.


So how exactly are they different? I don't see any difference body-wise as to a few minor details. My friend's Mercury Sable is pretty much the same as a Taurus except the engine is a lot more complicated to work on - according to him.


Same body/interior but different engines?



 naviguesser has totally different suspension. different interior appointments, which are(to the best of my knowledge...i could be wrong..) mostly not interchangeable......

 taurus has a more "spartan" if that's the right word......interior. i think some of the stuff's interchangeable.......not sure there though.

 nissan altimas. if they smell moisture, they rust like an old chevy.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: morfiend on August 21, 2013, 09:17:17 PM
 My mistake Reaper,I quoted the wrong post!


  I'm not sure of the name but it's a Saturn model and it's a rebadged opel.


 Ford built the crown vic/marquis and the last of the towncars nearby,I worked at the plant years ago.



   :salute
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: saggs on August 21, 2013, 09:52:57 PM
i thought bugatti did some mods to the veyron, and outran the venom?

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/hennessey-venom-gt-top-speed-265mph-2013-04-03

The Veyron SuperSport hit 268 over a 4+ mile run.

The Venom GT hit 265.7 in under 2 miles.

However because production versions of the Veyron SS are electronically limited to 258, the Venom now holds the record for production cars.  Even though it's a technicality it is a moot point as the Venom had a much shorter run.  If you watch the video of the Venom record run;  the driver missed a shift and still hit 267... and when he lifted because he was out of room it was still pulling hard.  I've no doubt that if Hennessey had access to the same 5 mile straight that Bugatti does the Venom would hit 280 with ease.

Also the Venom GT now holds the record for 0-300kph acceleration @ 13.63s

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/hennessey-venom-gt-world-record-0-300kmh-2013-01-14

The difference is all in the power/weight and the Venom GT is much, much lighter.

Veyron SS:  1,200bhp - 4,052lbs. = 1hp/3.37 lbs

Venom GT:  1,244bhp - 2,743lbs.  = 1hp/2.2 lbs.

The Venom GT doesn't have the luxury and sophistication of the Veyron, but it is a speed monster.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 21, 2013, 09:56:07 PM
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/hennessey-venom-gt-top-speed-265mph-2013-04-03

The Veyron SuperSport hit 268 over a 4+ mile run.

The Venom GT hit 265.7 in under 2 miles.

However because production versions of the Veyron SS are electronically limited to 258, the Venom now holds the record for production cars.  Even though it's a technicality it is a moot point as the Venom had a much shorter run.  If you watch the video of the Venom record run;  the driver missed a shift and still hit 267... and when he lifted because he was out of room it was still pulling hard.  I've no doubt that if Hennessey had access to the same 5 mile straight that Bugatti does the Venom would hit 280 with ease.

Also the Venom GT now holds the record for 0-300kph acceleration @ 13.63s

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/hennessey-venom-gt-world-record-0-300kmh-2013-01-14

The difference is all in the power/weight and the Venom GT is much, much lighter.

Veyron SS:  1,200bhp - 4,052lbs. = 1hp/3.37 lbs

Venom GT:  1,244bhp - 2,743lbs.  = 1hp/2.2 lbs.

The Venom GT doesn't have the luxury and sophistication of the Veyron, but it is a speed monster.

You'd have to be one hell of a crazy bastard to get into a car and fly down a 5 mile track at 280 MPH.

The Veyron would be so much better if it wasn't built for luxury and more for performance.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 22, 2013, 11:10:36 AM

So you had a good 5 grand to throw out on 2 cop cars? Possible, but I saw an alien last week. He tried to steal my cookie jar.


You say you also got 13k out of an '07 F150?

Bull. They didn't even go for 13k at the dealership brand-spankin-new. KBB says that at perfect condition with low mileage the F-150 would go for 8.8k max at a dealership. No way anyone was retarded enough to give you 13k for an '07 F150.

http://www.kbb.com/ford/f150-regular-cab/2007-ford-f150-regular-cab/xl-pickup-2d-8-ft/?condition=excellent&vehicleid=349449&intent=buy-used&options=4161516%7ctrue%7c4161544%7ctrue%7c4161546%7ctrue&pricetype=retail


Btw rallying in a diesel isn't the worst thing you can do. Having much more torque/power will help a hell of alot more than not having it in the mud and sand.

Have you ever watched a rally race? People do bring diesels to them.
who said I had 5 in cop cars!? Lmao bought the black 98 for 600$ painted it my self and sold it to a friend of mine for 2500 1 year later bought my white one  (2006) for 2300 and sold it for 3500. Bought my 04 f150 and sold it for profit sold my snomobile and got my 07 truck off a family friend for a good deal I couldn't pass up.

Only car given to me was a 02 f250 7.3 that sank and was totaled out. Never was given a car after that.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 22, 2013, 11:40:47 AM
who said I had 5 in cop cars!? Lmao bought the black 98 for 600$ painted it my self and sold it to a friend of mine for 2500 1 year later bought my white one  (2006) for 2300 and sold it for 3500. Bought my 04 f150 and sold it for profit sold my snomobile and got my 07 truck off a family friend for a good deal I couldn't pass up.

Only car given to me was a 02 f250 7.3 that sank and was totaled out. Never was given a car after that.

Now your story has gone to total BS. 13k for an '04 F150 is horsecrap. You wouldn't even get that out of a 2010 model. The best you could get out of an '04 F150 is about 5-7k, in perfect condition with low miles.


What about the cost of insurance on those cop cars? It had to be at least 4k a year for the '06 model and 2k for the '98. What about gas and maintenance? I bet that costed quite a bit too. About 1-3k a year depending on how you drive.


Who payed for insurance on all of those cars? Had to be expensive. I know that you cant possibly be making 20 bucks an hour on a part time job to pay for all of that.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: whiteman on August 22, 2013, 12:18:36 PM
Now your story has gone to total BS. 13k for an '04 F150 is horsecrap. You wouldn't even get that out of a 2010 model. The best you could get out of an '04 F150 is about 5-7k, in perfect condition with low miles.


What about the cost of insurance on those cop cars? It had to be at least 4k a year for the '06 model and 2k for the '98. What about gas and maintenance? I bet that costed quite a bit too. About 1-3k a year depending on how you drive.


Who payed for insurance on all of those cars? Had to be expensive. I know that you cant possibly be making 20 bucks an hour on a part time job to pay for all of that.

speaking of people paying for others stuff, how you plan on getting that R35?
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 22, 2013, 12:22:02 PM
speaking of people paying for others stuff, how you plan on getting that R35?

Where did I say that I was going to get an R35?

I said I could if I wanted to. I never said when nor how.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 22, 2013, 01:53:32 PM
Now your story has gone to total BS. 13k for an '04 F150 is horsecrap. You wouldn't even get that out of a 2010 model. The best you could get out of an '04 F150 is about 5-7k, in perfect condition with low miles.


What about the cost of insurance on those cop cars? It had to be at least 4k a year for the '06 model and 2k for the '98. What about gas and maintenance? I bet that costed quite a bit too. About 1-3k a year depending on how you drive.


Who payed for insurance on all of those cars? Had to be expensive. I know that you cant possibly be making 20 bucks an hour on a part time job to pay for all of that.

 didn't take long to find a 2010 f150 for well over what you think it can't get. you need to look before you speak.

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/3961720035.html
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 22, 2013, 01:58:48 PM
didn't take long to find a 2010 f150 for well over what you think it can't get. you need to look before you speak.

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/3961720035.html

Is that what he's getting or is that what he's asking?

Lets check KBB.



Right here, yes you would get 13k for a used 2010 pickup but that's only at low mileage, high quality and very few problems. Not easy to come by if you're in the northern half of the U.S. where cars rust a lot faster than those down in the lower half.

http://www.kbb.com/ford/f150-regular-cab/2010-ford-f150-regular-cab/xl-pickup-2d-8-ft/?condition=excellent&vehicleid=349433&intent=buy-used&pricetype=private-party
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Nashorn on August 22, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
Blue book value or black book or whatever is not anything to go by, once you have bought enough cars you will understand, I have found that cars are almost always listed higher than BB value, and if someone I was selling my car to said I was charging to much because BB said so I would tell them to Gtfo
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: kappa on August 22, 2013, 03:26:00 PM
Blue book value or black book or whatever is not anything to go by, once you have bought enough cars you will understand, I have found that cars are almost always listed higher than BB value, and if someone I was selling my car to said I was charging to much because BB said so I would tell them to Gtfo

Or you could explain to him that black book offers an excellent reference point but the numbers there represent wholesale/trade in values and not retail values..
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 22, 2013, 03:37:04 PM
Blue book value or black book or whatever is not anything to go by, once you have bought enough cars you will understand, I have found that cars are almost always listed higher than BB value, and if someone I was selling my car to said I was charging to much because BB said so I would tell them to Gtfo

 this. i was told i was asking way too much when i sold my s10. i told them to pound sand. i got my asking price. i was told the same thing with my mystique, my 79f150, and my 68 mustang. yet not a single one of them had a clue.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Nashorn on August 22, 2013, 03:49:12 PM
Or you could explain to him that black book offers an excellent reference point but the numbers there represent wholesale/trade in values and not retail values..
I did not mean for it to be mean or rude, I am just slightly jaded, as I only buy RHD vehicles, and a lot of 16 year olds have come to tire kick and they have absolutely no clue what they are buying, IE when I went to sell my 92 Skyline GTR, with a stroker kit a large single turbo and a brand new top end,  the kid came back at my 17 000 dollar asking price saying he talked to someone and they told him GTR's are only worth 10, which is true if your buying it straight from the auction house in japan, but not so much for a 600hp well cared for monster, so car price is determined by many different variables skorpx1, I apologise if it came off as being rude

and as for CAP1, with the above GTR, I ended up getting luck and finding 2 people who wanted it very bad, so I ended up getting 20 grand when all was said and done, its all about finding people who know and appreciate a perfect car
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 23, 2013, 03:13:59 PM
Woah lol 04 lariat ccsb with every option under a 100k? Well worth 15k check kbb.


PLPD only cost 60$ a year for the police cars buddy.

Prob spent 1800-2k on gas. I did my own oil changes so that was cheap and easy.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 23, 2013, 03:15:51 PM
I also have a thing called a job, maybe one day you will have one and you will understand where money comes from for things like this.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 23, 2013, 03:55:17 PM
Woah lol 04 lariat ccsb with every option under a 100k? Well worth 15k check kbb.


PLPD only cost 60$ a year for the police cars buddy.

Prob spent 1800-2k on gas. I did my own oil changes so that was cheap and easy.

So now your story changes again.


Maybe once you keep your story straight i'll believe you.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 23, 2013, 07:13:11 PM
So now your story changes again.


Maybe once you keep your story straight i'll believe you.
where has the story changed? I'd love for you to show me...
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 23, 2013, 07:32:48 PM
where has the story changed? I'd love for you to show me...

First it was just a plain F-150.

Next it was an 04 F-150.

Now its an 04 F-150 with all available options + Lariat.


I seriously doubt you had a fully loaded F-150 Lariat basically handed to you at any price lower than 12k.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 23, 2013, 07:47:11 PM
First it was just a plain F-150.

Next it was an 04 F-150.

Now its an 04 F-150 with all available options + Lariat.


I seriously doubt you had a fully loaded F-150 Lariat basically handed to you at any price lower than 12k.
story never changed details were just added as you accused me for something you don't have a clue on.

(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b461/snax6/B35A1290-44E0-4506-BC25-46E6A284610F-4570-0000032F5BDA9A5D.jpg)(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b461/snax6/null_zps63125902.jpg)

Just have to find that old man who kept a nice truck and had to sell for a price that was hard to pass up.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 23, 2013, 08:05:37 PM
story never changed details were just added as you accused me for something you don't have a clue on.

(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b461/snax6/B35A1290-44E0-4506-BC25-46E6A284610F-4570-0000032F5BDA9A5D.jpg)(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b461/snax6/null_zps63125902.jpg)

Just have to find that old man who kept a nice truck and had to sell for a price that was hard to pass up.

I didn't accuse you of anything. I called BS on your story.


You still haven't told me how much you paid for a 15k truck. I'm waiting.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 23, 2013, 09:19:02 PM
I didn't accuse you of anything. I called BS on your story.


You still haven't told me how much you paid for a 15k truck. I'm waiting.
can you not read? I already said I sold that f150 and my snomobile.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: skorpx1 on August 23, 2013, 09:24:14 PM
can you not read? I already said I sold that f150 and my snomobile.

You're the one that cannot understand a simple sentence.


I'm saying that I would like to know how much you paid for that F-150. I do not believe that you paid any less than 12k for it.


Read that very slowly and over again if needed.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Masherbrum on August 23, 2013, 10:39:37 PM
You're the one that cannot understand a simple sentence.


I'm saying that I would like to know how much you paid for that F-150. I do not believe that you paid any less than 12k for it.


Read that very slowly and over again if needed.

Joachim is up here in Michigan.   We have used pickups far cheaper than one can imagine and in great shape.   You're 16 and yet you know everything about truck pricing?   Geez kid, you are spamming your own thread with incessant silliness.   I believe him as I work in the auto industry.    

You gonna trade in your Razor Scooter for a car, or just spam the hell out of this thread so much, that forget what you wanted?
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 24, 2013, 12:10:44 AM
Although the 3 valve 5.4 has bad reputation. It's a solid motor with a good trans. A well kept 04 will easily get 250k on the odometer. I'm actually mad I sold that truck... I should have kept it.
Joachim is up here in Michigan.   We have used pickups far cheaper than one can imagine and in great shape.   You're 16 and yet you know everything about truck pricing?   Geez kid, you are spamming your own thread with incessant silliness.   I believe him as I work in the auto industry.   

You gonna trade in your Razor Scooter for a car, or just spam the hell out of this thread so much, that forget what you wanted?
:)
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zacherof on August 24, 2013, 12:12:08 AM
Joachim is up here in Michigan.   We have used pickups far cheaper than one can imagine and in great shape.   You're 16 and yet you know everything about truck pricing?   Geez kid, you are spamming your own thread with incessant silliness.   I believe him as I work in the auto industry.    

You gonna trade in your Razor Scooter for a car, or just spam the hell out of this thread so much, that forget what you wanted?
was under the impression he was canadian :noid
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zoney on August 24, 2013, 01:14:42 AM
I get 16 year old morons in my Honda motorcycle store everyday, reminds me a lot of the 16 year old moron in this thread.  They know absolutely everything about everything.  They have read every article they can find, they have been on internet boards and know everything about motorcycles, especially sportbikes.  I walk them over to a 250 Honda sportbike and tell them this should be there first bike.  They look at me like I'm an idiot and proceed to tell me "No way, I need a 1000cc bike".  I tell them they are going to be paying about 800.00 a month for insurance for that bike, or 50.00 a month for the 250 I'm trying to talk to them about.  The 1000 is $14,000.00 and the 250 is $4000.00.  I get the same thing, "No way, it's going to have to be a 1000cc bike for me".  I ask them what they are riding now.  What their friends are riding now, it's always the same answer, "Nothing".  I tell them that 250 which maybe you could convince your parents to buy for you is a lot better than riding your tennis shoes.  Some of them come back, with their parents, and it looks like maybe, just maybe they might have the privilege of riding a bike.  They of course show "Mom" the 1000cc.  I show "Mom" the 250 and tell them, this is where your son should start, if you buy him the 1000cc bike, he will be dead in a week.  It's always amazing to me to see these testosterone crazed 16 to 18 year old idiots choose nothing rather than get a 250cc and go out and have a ball riding it.  Learn on it.  Live long enough to get a faster bike later.  I tell them "Girls never ever ask how big the engine is on the bike, they just want you to take them for a ride."  They have no respect.  They have no grasp of the laws of physics.  They have no clue what a 200HP, 400 pound motorcycle can do, but they know if they get one they will be a world class motorcycle roadracer in about 90 days because, "I'm just naturally talented and I can do anything and I know everything and I don't need an old mans advise like yours".  Yeah, I know, you aren't talking about bikes, your talking about trucks.  Trucks you can't afford, trucks you cant insure, trucks you couldn't handle driving on your best day.  See the parallel?

Skorpx, "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, then to open it, and remove all doubt".
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Plawranc on August 24, 2013, 03:15:40 AM
American cars are big, inconvenient and fuel hungry... in other words awesome.

Ever since I saw a classic 1967 Mustang, I have been completely in love with the Mustang series, however it has put on the pounds recently, they need to slim the modern stangs down a bit... still love the engine.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zacherof on August 24, 2013, 03:24:33 AM
American cars are big, inconvenient and fuel hungry... in other words awesome.

Ever since I saw a classic 1967 Mustang, I have been completely in love with the Mustang series, however it has put on the pounds recently, they need to slim the modern stangs down a bit... still love the engine.
:aok
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: ink on August 24, 2013, 03:57:24 AM
I get 16 year old morons in my Honda motorcycle store everyday, reminds me a lot of the 16 year old moron in this thread.  They know absolutely everything about everything.  They have read every article they can find, they have been on internet boards and know everything about motorcycles, especially sportbikes.  I walk them over to a 250 Honda sportbike and tell them this should be there first bike.  They look at me like I'm an idiot and proceed to tell me "No way, I need a 1000cc bike".  I tell them they are going to be paying about 800.00 a month for insurance for that bike, or 50.00 a month for the 250 I'm trying to talk to them about.  The 1000 is $14,000.00 and the 250 is $4000.00.  I get the same thing, "No way, it's going to have to be a 1000cc bike for me".  I ask them what they are riding now.  What their friends are riding now, it's always the same answer, "Nothing".  I tell them that 250 which maybe you could convince your parents to buy for you is a lot better than riding your tennis shoes.  Some of them come back, with their parents, and it looks like maybe, just maybe they might have the privilege of riding a bike.  They of course show "Mom" the 1000cc.  I show "Mom" the 250 and tell them, this is where your son should start, if you buy him the 1000cc bike, he will be dead in a week.  It's always amazing to me to see these testosterone crazed 16 to 18 year old idiots choose nothing rather than get a 250cc and go out and have a ball riding it.  Learn on it.  Live long enough to get a faster bike later.  I tell them "Girls never ever ask how big the engine is on the bike, they just want you to take them for a ride."  They have no respect.  They have no grasp of the laws of physics.  They have no clue what a 200HP, 400 pound motorcycle can do, but they know if they get one they will be a world class motorcycle roadracer in about 90 days because, "I'm just naturally talented and I can do anything and I know everything and I don't need an old mans advise like yours".  Yeah, I know, you aren't talking about bikes, your talking about trucks.  Trucks you can't afford, trucks you cant insure, trucks you couldn't handle driving on your best day.  See the parallel?

Skorpx, "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, then to open it, and remove all doubt".

quoted just because it was so friggen awesome..... :ahand
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 24, 2013, 07:34:41 AM
I get 16 year old morons in my Honda motorcycle store everyday, reminds me a lot of the 16 year old moron in this thread.  They know absolutely everything about everything.  They have read every article they can find, they have been on internet boards and know everything about motorcycles, especially sportbikes.  I walk them over to a 250 Honda sportbike and tell them this should be there first bike.  They look at me like I'm an idiot and proceed to tell me "No way, I need a 1000cc bike".  I tell them they are going to be paying about 800.00 a month for insurance for that bike, or 50.00 a month for the 250 I'm trying to talk to them about.  The 1000 is $14,000.00 and the 250 is $4000.00.  I get the same thing, "No way, it's going to have to be a 1000cc bike for me".  I ask them what they are riding now.  What their friends are riding now, it's always the same answer, "Nothing".  I tell them that 250 which maybe you could convince your parents to buy for you is a lot better than riding your tennis shoes.  Some of them come back, with their parents, and it looks like maybe, just maybe they might have the privilege of riding a bike.  They of course show "Mom" the 1000cc.  I show "Mom" the 250 and tell them, this is where your son should start, if you buy him the 1000cc bike, he will be dead in a week.  It's always amazing to me to see these testosterone crazed 16 to 18 year old idiots choose nothing rather than get a 250cc and go out and have a ball riding it.  Learn on it.  Live long enough to get a faster bike later.  I tell them "Girls never ever ask how big the engine is on the bike, they just want you to take them for a ride."  They have no respect.  They have no grasp of the laws of physics.  They have no clue what a 200HP, 400 pound motorcycle can do, but they know if they get one they will be a world class motorcycle roadracer in about 90 days because, "I'm just naturally talented and I can do anything and I know everything and I don't need an old mans advise like yours".  Yeah, I know, you aren't talking about bikes, your talking about trucks.  Trucks you can't afford, trucks you cant insure, trucks you couldn't handle driving on your best day.  See the parallel?

Skorpx, "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, then to open it, and remove all doubt".

 there was a day when i knew everything about everything. then i destroyed a couple nice cars 'cause i knew so much. then i realized i didn't know nearly what i thought i knew.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 24, 2013, 07:36:02 AM
American cars are big, inconvenient and fuel hungry... in other words awesome.

Ever since I saw a classic 1967 Mustang, I have been completely in love with the Mustang series, however it has put on the pounds recently, they need to slim the modern stangs down a bit... still love the engine.

 funny thing about how heavy current mustangs are? they're STILL faster/quicker then their 60's counterparts.......and they're still the lighter than their competition.......
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Nashorn on August 24, 2013, 06:18:01 PM
I think he may have been talking about how the new mustangs are a bit "fat" compared to the old ones
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 24, 2013, 08:12:31 PM
I think he may have been talking about how the new mustangs are a bit "fat" compared to the old ones

 oohh...that they are. they're VERY much larger, and heavier. but then.......they're VERY much faster/quicker too. trust me...i know.  :aok :devil
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zacherof on August 24, 2013, 11:22:13 PM
oohh...that they are. they're VERY much larger, and heavier. but then.......they're VERY much faster/quicker too. trust me...i know.  :aok :devil
And a bit sexier :joystick:
I mean sheesh

Now if we could get Chevy to give a decent Malibu....
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Nashorn on August 25, 2013, 12:50:48 AM
And a bit sexier :joystick:
I mean sheesh

Now if we could get Chevy to give a decent Malibu....
If you want a good 4 door sedan, go German or Japanese, its the way it always has been, and from the looks of American concept cars, that's the way it shall stay  :lol
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: kappa on August 25, 2013, 02:52:59 AM
saw one of these on the road the other day.. very secksie!

http://www.teslamotors.com/models
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zacherof on August 25, 2013, 08:49:42 PM
If you want a good 4 door sedan, go German or Japanese, its the way it always has been, and from the looks of American concept cars, that's the way it shall stay  :lol
Well the old malibu was sexy now its like meh
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 26, 2013, 12:02:07 PM
And a bit sexier :joystick:
I mean sheesh

Now if we could get Chevy to give a decent Malibu....

 i thought chevy was gonna import a v8 version of the malibu, mainly for pd's.....but also a special edition for civilians too? or was that the impala?
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Bino on August 26, 2013, 12:23:49 PM

Why settle for a mundane cast-iron lump of a truck when you could drive a piece of automotive artistry crafted by Lamborghini....

(http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2010/08/1988LamborghiniLM002_01_700.jpg)
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zacherof on August 26, 2013, 12:29:21 PM
i thought chevy was gonna import a v8 version of the malibu, mainly for pd's.....but also a special edition for civilians too? or was that the impala?

I have no clue. but ill take a V8 in either one :airplane:
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zoney on August 26, 2013, 12:29:33 PM
Why settle for a mundane cast-iron lump of a truck when you could drive a piece of automotive artistry crafted by Lamborghini....

(http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2010/08/1988LamborghiniLM002_01_700.jpg)


It's a V12.  It's Italian.  It's unbelievable.  I drove one of these, about 30 feet, moving it for a friend that owned a shop that was about to change the oil.  It was a long time ago, 20 years maybe and I can still feel that V12 light up and remember what that did to my heartrate.  I then got in my 1971 Triump Spitfire 1500cc 4 cylinder and drove happily home.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Nashorn on August 26, 2013, 01:39:27 PM
nothing like a Lambo V12, an acquaintance of mine let me take his diablo around the block after I let him drive my skyline, and it was the coolest thing ever haha, too bad he didn't take me up on my offer to trade cars  :rofl
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: CAP1 on August 26, 2013, 10:05:58 PM
I have no clue. but ill take a V8 in either one :airplane:

 i think they should bring back the impala ss. i also think they should make an AWD version of it, as that would put a SERIOUS hurting on the audi/bmw AWD's.
Title: Re: Velociraptor Anybody?
Post by: Zacherof on August 26, 2013, 10:21:22 PM
i think they should bring back the impala ss. i also think they should make an AWD version of it, as that would put a SERIOUS hurting on the audi/bmw AWD's.
oh hell yeah.