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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Blinder on May 13, 2014, 05:05:37 AM
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Ok all you aviation buffs and gurus. Let's start a new weekly segment to test and sharpen your aviation knowledge. Anyone can identify a B-52 or a P-51 so let's dig deep and try to guess some of these really strange birds. I'll kick this off with an easy one.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10308560_10203822288467254_5760491249620777419_n.jpg)
Name that Plane! :headscratch:
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:uhoh
Can I get a clue? :headscratch:
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Ok all you aviation buffs and gurus. Let's start a new weekly segment to test and sharpen your aviation knowledge. Anyone can identify a B-52 or a P-51 so let's dig deep and try to guess some of these really strange birds. I'll kick this off with an easy one.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10308560_10203822288467254_5760491249620777419_n.jpg)
Name that Plane! :headscratch:
If it's ugly and weird it's Russian. (Ilyushin Il-40, 1950s)
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Pigs on the Wing prototype, Snoutmiser -1 (S-1)
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If it's ugly and weird it's Russian. (Ilyushin Il-40, 1950s)
YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!!
The Ilyushin Il-40 (NATO reporting name: Brawny) was a two-seat Soviet jet-engined armored ground-attack aircraft. The first prototype flew in 1953 and was very successful except when it fired its guns, as their combustion gasses disturbed the airflow into the engines and caused them to flameout or hiccup. Remedying this problem took over a year and involved the radical change of moving the engine air intakes all the way to the very front of the aircraft and repositioning the guns from the tip of the nose to the bottom of the fuselage, just behind the nose wheel. The aircraft, now resembling a double-barreled shotgun from the front, was ordered into production in 1955. Only five production aircraft had been completed before the entire program was canceled in early 1956 when the VVS discarded its close air support doctrine in favor of tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefield.
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Let's try another one. This one may be a little harder.
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10339749_10203822288867264_3870369130019018851_n.jpg)
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Tupolev SB-2, served in the Spanish Civil War. There was a Republican airfield in my hometown, still visit the bunkers from time to time :salute
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Tupolev SB-2, served in the Spanish Civil War. There was a Republican airfield in my hometown, still visit the bunkers from time to time :salute
There is no fooling you aircraft connoisseurs! Correct! This pic is actually of the original Tupolev ANT-40, also known by its service name Tupolev SB (Russian: Скоростной бомбардировщик – Skorostnoi Bombardirovschik – "high speed bomber"), and development co-name TsAGI-40, was a high speed twin-engined three-seat monoplane bomber, first flown in 1934.The design was very advanced, but lacked refinement, much to the dismay of crews and maintenance personnel – and of Stalin, who pointed out that "there are no trivialities in aviation". Numerically the most important bomber in the world in the late 1930s, the SB was the first modern stressed-skin aircraft produced in quantity in the Soviet Union and probably the most formidable bomber of the mid-1930s. Many versions saw extensive action in Spain, the Republic of China, Mongolia, Finland and at the beginning of the War against Germany in 1941. It was also used in various duties in civil variants, as trainers and in many secondary roles. Successful in the Spanish Civil War because it outpaced most fighters, the aircraft was obsolete by 1941. By June 1941, 94% of bombers in the Red Army air force (VVS RKKA) were SBs.
Well done sir!
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How about this one?
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1795715_10203822232025843_5110913774148066537_n.jpg)
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It's a weird version of the XB-43 Jetmaster!
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Ok all you aviation buffs and gurus. Let's start a new weekly segment to test and sharpen your aviation knowledge. Anyone can identify a B-52 or a P-51 so let's dig deep and try to guess some of these really strange birds. I'll kick this off with an easy one.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10308560_10203822288467254_5760491249620777419_n.jpg)
Name that Plane! :headscratch:
That looks like something you'd see on Felix the Cat back when I was a kid. :lol
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It's a weird version of the XB-43 Jetmaster!
Boy this is a tough crowd to stump! Excellent!
So how about this one?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10289988_10203822233345876_5833292823900656384_n.jpg)
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BAC TSR-2 :old:
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This one
(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/9/1/3/0681319.jpg)
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Yakovlev Yak-36 :old:
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Yakovlev Yak-36 :old:
It's no fun playing with you! :noid What if the poster who finds the plane's name gets to post the new one?
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It's no fun playing with you! :noid What if the poster who finds the plane's name gets to post the new one?
No problem... here we go:
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/raetsel1_zps4ddf7dba.jpg)
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By all means! Take over!
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Focke Wolf GL18 somebody else can post one I'm at work....
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:aok
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Focke Wolf GL18 somebody else can post one I'm at work....
Ok. Let's keep this rolling.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10172738_10203822232705860_3908131299147673455_n.jpg)
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XB-46!
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(http://s22.postimg.org/ezlza9gcx/224545.jpg)
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YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!!
The Ilyushin Il-40 (NATO reporting name: Brawny) was a two-seat Soviet jet-engined armored ground-attack aircraft. The first prototype flew in 1953 and was very successful except when it fired its guns, as their combustion gasses disturbed the airflow into the engines and caused them to flameout or hiccup. Remedying this problem took over a year and involved the radical change of moving the engine air intakes all the way to the very front of the aircraft and repositioning the guns from the tip of the nose to the bottom of the fuselage, just behind the nose wheel. The aircraft, now resembling a double-barreled shotgun from the front, was ordered into production in 1955. Only five production aircraft had been completed before the entire program was canceled in early 1956 when the VVS discarded its close air support doctrine in favor of tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefield.
I find your definition of 'very successful' either interesting or sarcastic. ;)
Oh ... and Fw 191.
(http://airdic.com/UserFiles/tomcat/1(437)(2).jpg)
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Too easy, I pass :devil
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Too easy, I pass :devil
This one is just for you! :P
(http://s21.postimg.org/uc07nz7qf/IMG_20140514_005822.jpg)
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Now that one I have never seen before :)
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Xav's look like a Redbull Flugtag competitor pic de-colorized. :D
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It's a design by M. Shukanov (or A. J. Tento, depends on the sorce) during the late 1950s, in the russian quest for circular-shaped aircraft. Shukanov finally succeeded in making a close equivalent to the american Avrocar...and I guess they stopped right there after seeing the astronomic performance :rofl
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I find your definition of 'very successful' either interesting or sarcastic. ;)
Oh ... and Fw 191.
(http://airdic.com/UserFiles/tomcat/1(437)(2).jpg)
Miles M35/39
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Ok let's keep it rolling.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10367189_10203825768634256_3938521176618460381_n.jpg)
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(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/boatplane.jpg)
Believe it or not, this plane actually flew. :)
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(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/boatplane.jpg)
Believe it, this plane actually flew straight to the bottom of the lake. :)
fixed that for ya!
LOL no idea. Looking at it, it looks like I have a better chance throwing of my overweight son into orbit. With my bad left arm.
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(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/boatplane.jpg)
Believe it or not, this plane actually flew. :)
Too easy!
Caproni Ca.60
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Next
(http://www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/0/9/9/1288990.jpg)
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Ok let's keep it rolling.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10367189_10203825768634256_3938521176618460381_n.jpg)
PL-12, it was in thunderdome, at the end. Neat plane.
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This one?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74588540/whatisthis.jpg)
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One of the most beautiful aircraft ever made. The de Havilland Swallow. Basically a jet 163.
Now lemme see...
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(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/hmm.jpg)
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(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/6/9/5/1971596.jpg) ?
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It's a weird version of the XB-43 Jetmaster!
I thought it was Mothra .
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(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/6/9/5/1971596.jpg) ?
Could it be a Stab something or other :devil
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(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/6/9/5/1971596.jpg) ?
Saab 210 Lilldraken :rock
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1613871_10203825700952564_8878080400283292204_n.jpg)
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Republic XF-84H
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(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/buck_rogers_001_zpsabe71199.jpg)
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(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/buck_rogers_001_zpsabe71199.jpg)
Convair XF-92.
Easy sauce plane here.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/F-4B_VMFA-314_1968.jpg)
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(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/hmm.jpg)
Too difficult? Even for our Finnish members (hint)?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/hmm.jpg)
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Convair XF-92.
Easy sauce plane here.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/F-4B_VMFA-314_1968.jpg)
F-4B Phantom II. You have to be a 13 year old girl not to know that one.
(http://jpcolliat.free.fr/trident/images/so9000_02.jpg)
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Ok, I figured you'd post the Guppy sooner or later.
It's probably too easy as well.
It's funny looking at the old planes wondering what they were thinking
with some that were built.
:cheers: Oz
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SNCASO Trident
Now this:
(http://www.iaf.org.il/Sip_Storage/FILES/3/640X387/44263.jpg)
(Should be trivial)
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Convair XF-92.
Easy sauce plane here.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/F-4B_VMFA-314_1968.jpg)
Swing and a miss!
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SNCASO Trident
Now this:
(http://www.iaf.org.il/Sip_Storage/FILES/3/640X387/44263.jpg)
(Should be trivial)
Yes it is. IAI F-21 Kfir
This one should be just as easy.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10367696_10203822229905790_8903294584036456050_n.jpg)
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bearcat?
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Yes it is. IAI F-21 Kfir
This one should be just as easy.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10367696_10203822229905790_8903294584036456050_n.jpg)
Curtiss XBTC.... Another failed Curtiss program....
Name this....
Famous, fast and pretty easy to name... One of Kurt Tank's admitted inspirations..
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/10257626_10203563536426008_2425377431311577111_o.jpg)
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Hughes Racer, H-1
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This one may be tough. But I doubt it with the database in the craniums of this gaming crowd! :salute
(http://rdougwicker.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/img_3661.jpg)
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This one may be tough. But I doubt it with the database in the craniums of this gaming crowd! :salute
(http://rdougwicker.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/img_3661.jpg)
McDonnell 119/220....
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FowH_M1Jp3Q/T-HftPsU0nI/AAAAAAABYko/GG6GuBHyBFU/s1600/McDonnell119-04.jpg)
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Excellent! How bout this one?
(http://www.dmairfield.com/airplanes/32_402/images/1938_France_Field_19.jpg)
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Excellent! How bout this one?
(http://www.dmairfield.com/airplanes/32_402/images/1938_France_Field_19.jpg)
That's a Bellanca C-27C Airbus.
Developed alongside this....
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Bellanca_XSE-2.jpg/1280px-Bellanca_XSE-2.jpg)
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Too difficult? Even for our Finnish members (hint)?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/hmm.jpg)
VL Saaski II
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(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/f640/qiom2qc6bw18f6tfg.jpg)
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Martin 187 Baltimore
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Yes, also referred to as RAF A-30
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and how about this one?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dgkKmSaYgn8/UVahazJyRdI/AAAAAAAABBo/vFSkETvjJZs/s640/DDR+Die-152+pic2.jpg)
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:headscratch: stumped
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and how about this one?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dgkKmSaYgn8/UVahazJyRdI/AAAAAAAABBo/vFSkETvjJZs/s640/DDR+Die-152+pic2.jpg)
Convair YB-60
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Convair YB-60
Hey! I finally stumped everybody on one! Yeah for me!
Sorry. The correct answer is the Baade 152.
The Baade 152 also known as Dresden 152, VL-DDR 152 or simply 152 was the first German jet passenger airliner. It was built and tested in Dresden (East Germany) between 1956 and 1961, but failed to enter service. The "152" represents the final development in the Junkers aircraft family which ended with the "development planes" (Entwicklungsflugzeug - EF).
Try this one next.
(http://www.unrealaircraft.com/classics/images/T167467.jpg)
:airplane:
(http://s018.radikal.ru/i516/1405/6e/a901393bdbb5.jpg)
:airplane:
(http://nsa09.casimages.com/img/2009/09/12/090912074305356054.jpg)
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Bristol Brabazon
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Bristol Brabazon
Excellent! :aok
How bout this one?
(http://www.impdb.org/images/thumb/7/7d/DASFLAMANT_BA.jpg/500px-DASFLAMANT_BA.jpg)
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Dassault Flamant
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The diversity of horrible ideas in aviation is awesome! A big reason I'm an airplane geek.
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Dassault Flamant
Hazaaaah! :aok
and this one?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/1904141_10203940387779663_2815762198900901682_n.jpg)
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Grumman XF10F Jaguar
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Grumman XF10F Jaguar
yeah buddy! :rock
and this one?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4VXrkZe4WmU/TIfsco0ZGLI/AAAAAAAAInw/giqqquR0LNw/s1600/Brewster+XA-32.jpg)
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Seems you've changed your rules about this thread. ;)
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FFVS J-22
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Brewster XA-32
(position of the horizontal stab changed later significantly)
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Seems you've changed your rules about this thread. ;)
No one else seems interested in posting pics. I'm simply keeping it going.
So how about this one?
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10268617_10203941404685085_4573046691018071365_n.jpg)
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No one else seems interested in posting pics. I'm simply keeping it going.
So how about this one?
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10268617_10203941404685085_4573046691018071365_n.jpg)
<buzzer> Oh I'm sorry. Time's up. This one is the Piper PA-7 Skycoupe. We were looking for Piper Skycoupe. :cool:
I'll make the next one super easy.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10305511_10203978900302452_6103220167012392713_n.jpg)
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Ki-15
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Ki-15
Excellent! And this one?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/1526140_10203987174149293_6802774484844535894_n.jpg)
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(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXtF2pqUB_R4u_sVuW_ll60bfax2bkn11XS0V21G3sHhtoBzEosjHUwez)
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Vultee P-66 Vanguard
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Vultee P-66 Vanguard
Yup. Next one.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10370998_10203987219430425_2865346534166590421_n.jpg)
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IL-18
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Boeing C-97 Stratofreighter
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Boeing C-97 Stratofreighter
This is a C-97
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Boeing_KC-97L_Stratofreighter_Zeppelinheim_USAF.jpg)
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IL-18
You are correct! The Ilyushin Il-18 was a Soviet four-engined airliner designed and built by Ilyushin immediately after World War II. Although the aircraft itself was successful, its Shvetsov ASh-73TK engines were too unreliable for civilian use and were further needed to equip the Tupolev Tu-4 bomber, so it was cancelled in 1948.
Not to be confused with the 1957 aircraft of the same manufacturer and designation.
Next one.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10436682_10203987195669831_5101463805298739257_n.jpg)
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ME263
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(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/d0nwaters/HellDiver_zpsed88bcaf.jpg) (http://s665.photobucket.com/user/d0nwaters/media/HellDiver_zpsed88bcaf.jpg.html)
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ME263
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Me 263 is technically incorrect. The image is actually a Junkers Ju-248 but since they are one and the same with time being the only separation factor you get the points! Kudos! :aok
Slate that is far too easy. It's the last plane my grandfather flew before he left the Navy in 47. A Curtiss SB2C Helldiver. I do believe it's a dash five at that too given the single piece of glass on the pilot's slider.
Ok. How about this one?
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10303363_10204005328523141_5615205977073683406_n.jpg)
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(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/d0nwaters/HellDiver_zpsed88bcaf.jpg) (http://s665.photobucket.com/user/d0nwaters/media/HellDiver_zpsed88bcaf.jpg.html)
SoB 2nd CLass.
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Sud-Est Grognard.
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Sud-Est Grognard.
Outstanding! :aok
Next up:
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10453326_10204005329843174_8916676068109737830_n.jpg)
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YC-15
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Another view
(http://www.air-and-space.com/20090529%20Edwards/BL2_8216%20YC-15%20N15TC%20front%20F-105D%2061-0146%20left%20side%20F-104C%2056-0860%20rear%20l.jpg)
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I just told you. That's the YC-15 at Edwards.
Can somebody put the next one up. This is a pain on my phone. :(
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I just told you. That's the YC-15 at Edwards.
Can somebody put the next one up. This is a pain on my phone. :(
That wasn't me and yes you are correct! The YC-15.
Here is a harder one.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10455072_10204006374389287_7020411577363118267_n.jpg)
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I dub thee Eric.
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French SE-1010
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French SE-1010
Correct! Very impressive! :rock
Next one.
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10376059_10204032263396496_8452202999417143377_n.jpg)
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Fairchild XC-120 :D
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Fairchild XC-120 :D
No stumping you! :aok
Next!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10402889_10204032263316494_1828973116730505511_n.jpg)
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C-102 Jetliner
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C-102 Jetliner
Ouch! Well done.
How bout this one?
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10429838_10204032263276493_2765844963429610805_n.jpg)
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Armstrong Whitworth Apollo
Gotta go eat dinner now. :D
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Armstrong Whitworth Apollo
Gotta go eat dinner now. :D
The man knows his obscure aircraft! :rock
Here is another one.
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10399436_10204032615005286_611059165446117878_n.jpg?oh=0006e805e57a9c2d0057436be47f94d7&oe=54257889)
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Short Sturgeon
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Short Sturgeon
Aren't most of these proctologists?
Oh wait, you said STurgeon......
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Short Sturgeon
and the awesomeness continues! :salute
next one.
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10363330_10204034394689777_3812099471953160578_n.jpg)
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Piper Cherokee 140
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Piper Cherokee 140
Incorrect. :D
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Incorrect.
I'm thinking a Musketeer or a Sundowner.
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Navion
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Musketeer, Sundowner and Navion are incorrect. :D
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Grumman Tiger?
Rob
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Grumman Tiger?
Rob
Good guess! But Grumman Tiger is incorrect. :D
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Cthulhu? .... Wmaker? .... Bueller .... Bueller? .... Bueller? C'mon, where are my plane naming stars at? This is an easy one. :headscratch:
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Not much to work with from that crappy picture. It looks somewhat like a Beech Debonair, but if it is, it's been abandoned and has a family of racoons living in it. :)
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Not much to work with from that crappy picture. It looks somewhat like a Beech Debonair, but if it is, it's been abandoned and has a family of racoons living in it. :)
Beech Debonair is incorrect. :D
It's not a crappy picture. It is a challengeing picture. And with your expertise, I had to take it up a notch. I'll give you a hint. Very few were made and it's a collaboration between two airplane manufacturers while being marketed under the banner of just one of them. We had one based here at KTHV for several years. They are neat little planes.
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Well then, she looks "ERCO" in the nose.
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Aha! She's a Mooney M10 Cadet. A collaborative project.
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Aha! She's a Mooney M10 Cadet. A collaborative project.
Now that is frackin' outstanding! Try this one. :aok
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/1512584_10204034434610775_4713119126650402423_n.jpg)
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Consolidated XP4Y
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Ed. "Corregidor"
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Consolidated XP4Y
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Ed. "Corregidor"
Nicely done. :aok
Next.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10447088_10204034434410770_4062927292804881169_n.jpg)
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Christian Eagle
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Christian Eagle
Actually it is an Aviat Christen Eagle II .... but close enough for our purposes. Well done! :salute
Next up. One of my personal favorites. I want one!
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10410100_10204057832355704_3796257719385999929_n.jpg)
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That's a Swift
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That's a Swift
It most certainly is! We have a Super Swift based here at KTHV. It is a darling little silver bird. Some people in the clique call it the "Poor Man's Mustang."
Next up.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10342953_10204057055216276_3332292832139961144_n.jpg)
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Pacer Float plane.
Well... Tri-Piper Pacer Float.
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This is off the hat and based on the general sense I get from the photo: Fleet Canuck 80?
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Tri-Pacer Floatplane is incorrect. :D
And Wmaker, I have no idea what you are talking about. :huh
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Either a Cessna 120 or 140.
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Either a Cessna 120 or 140.
Both are incorrect. :D
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Some of these I think he cobbles together himself out of old garage door parts, and then poses his grandma in front of it in a flying cap to help sell the photo. :)
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Some of these I think he cobbles together himself out of old garage door parts, and then poses his grandma in front of it in a flying cap to help sell the photo. :)
Awwwww! Don't be sore. You just need to learn your general aviation genre the same way you know your military and commercial aviation.
And for the record, old garage door parts is incorrect. :D
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Taylorcraft
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Taylorcraft
Good guess! But an acceptable answer will require a model to go with that make. And though it looks like a Taylorcraft, this particular float-plane was manufactured by one of their industry rivals. :D
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Luscombe 8. :rock
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Luscombe 8. :rock
Luscombe 8 is incorrect. :D
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In the name of diversity...
(http://www.histaviation.com/Bf_162_V2_from_below_314x253.jpg)
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In the name of diversity...
(http://www.histaviation.com/Bf_162_V2_from_below_314x253.jpg)
Messerschmitt Bf 162 Jaguar. Now guess mine. Which apparently is infinitely harder. I thought it would be cheese. I guess working at an airport on weekends I see more of these general aviation planes so I figure them for commonplace.
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You lucky dog :O
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Looks like an early Piper PA-12... They were approved for floats.
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Looks like an early Piper PA-12... They were approved for floats.
Piper PA-12 is incorrect. :D
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Awwwww! Don't be sore. You just need to learn your general aviation genre the same way you know your military and commercial aviation.
And for the record, old garage door parts is incorrect. :D
I think I see what this thread was intended to be from the start now. :cool:
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Piper PA-12 is incorrect. :D
Stinson 108
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Stinson 108
The 108 has a double wing brace.
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It most certainly is! We have a Super Swift based here at KTHV. It is a darling little silver bird. Some people in the clique call it the "Poor Man's Mustang."
Next up.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10342953_10204057055216276_3332292832139961144_n.jpg)
Aeronca Sedan?
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Aeronca 15AC Sedan
Now this one:
(http://img1.jetphotos.net:8080/img/1/1/6/9/71232_1350926961.jpg)
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Aeronca 15AC Sedan
(http://img1.jetphotos.net:8080/img/1/1/6/9/71232_1350926961.jpg)
Specifically, a Aeronca S15AC Sedan located in Peru....... LOLOL Found it the image here:
http://www.laahs.com/threads/240-Floatplanes-over-Peru?s=29b21c100eeafc1d977ef7d1df3e81ca (http://www.laahs.com/threads/240-Floatplanes-over-Peru?s=29b21c100eeafc1d977ef7d1df3e81ca)
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IAI-201 Arava, I built a paper kit of it some years ago. My dog liked it very much! :old: So much in fact that she ate it...
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IAI-201 Arava, I built a paper kit of it some years ago. My dog liked it very much! :old: So much in fact that she ate it...
Correct :-)
Somebody made a paper kit for it??? In IAF we called it "flying boiler"
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I think I see what this thread was intended to be from the start now. :cool:
I'm not sure what you see. But I see a thread entitled "Name that Plane." Not, "name only the military planes we already know." It can and should be an opportunity to expand your aeronautical knowledge into all facets of the industry.
I'm all about mixing it up and having fun in the process. So keep those guesses coming. As you can clearly see, eventually, someone steps forward with the correct answers. So if Xavier or any other player does not post a new picture I will exercise the option, as the thread starter, to keep it going. So here is the next one:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10383544_10204068312457700_2574043563386630230_n.jpg)
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Vought V 507 TFX entry... Lost to the Grumman F-14.
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Vought V 507 TFX entry... Lost to the Grumman F-14.
Excellent! How bout this one?
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10460461_10204066973904237_2990405963145405506_n.jpg)
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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Sorry that you feel that way but that is not my intent.
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/spiderman_zps53f0d7af.png)
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Boeing 908
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Boeing 908
Tag. You're it. :)
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Boeing 908
See what I mean. The man is on frackin' fire! :rock
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/image1_zpseoqzajgh.jpg)
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/image1_zpseoqzajgh.jpg)
It's a tough one but I believe it is a Loughead F-1 Flying Boat.
Keeping with the same theme ... how bout this one?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10371926_10204078063141461_1425352445013557184_n.jpg)
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I smell pasta! :old:
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I smell pasta! :old:
No. It's not Italian as far as I can figure. ;)
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Do 12
Never mind, it's a be-2
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Do 12
Never mind, it's a be-2
Outstanding! I was just about to ask you to look at the tail. That is a dead giveaway against the Do 12 guess. You are correct it is a Beriev MRB-2 / Be-2! Well done. :salute You sir, have the conn. Please post the next picture if you wish, or challenge someone else to post.
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Yeah, at initial glance, I thought it was a Do 12, then I thought "what the hell is up with the tail"?
This might throw some people:
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/spyww2/ki76/ki76-4.jpg)
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Ki-76
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Ki-76
Well done sir. Your go if you wish.
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Let's roll! :airplane:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10441421_10204066973944238_6322778740077594216_n.jpg)
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Ryan XF2R 'Dark Shark'
Thought it was some bizarre P-51 conversion at first, but the ventral doors gave it away eventually.
Someone else can have a go though.
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(http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/spyww2/iar37-i.jpg)
România Trăiască
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IAR-37
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Hazaaaah! :rock Pancake Bird! I know its a super easy one but had to post it.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10339719_10203822230305800_1197725008479925170_n.jpg)
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XP-67
Total squirrel. Where I first learned about Dutch Roll
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XP-67
Yuppers! I got another one.
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10398043_10204068312617704_7099503967790053127_n.jpg)
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Armstrong Whitworth A.W.27
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Armstrong Whitworth A.W.27
Boy! I'm glad you knew it cuz I had no clue. Just found the pic whilst surfing. :D
Anyone know what this one is?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10385278_10204068312817709_8137317201428956709_n.jpg)
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Handley Page 42
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(http://www.abpic.co.uk/images/images/1031280M.jpg)
Sorry not trying to butt in but when looking up the H-P 42 came across this a/c.
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Not a problem. :) That's a Marathon.
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Not a problem. :) That's a Marathon.
Lemme try and stump ya'll with this one. :headscratch:
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10380322_10204057832315703_3646863153905609513_n.jpg)
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Air Tractor 502... an obvious ag aircraft, but not an obvious aircraft.
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Super easy, but I worked on this bird and it does look pretty cool.
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-06-19-09-23-21-1_zpsgnkajfyb.png)
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Trivial General Dynamics F-16XL
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Trivial General Dynamics F-16XL
Yep. You know the composite layup for the skins is like an inch and a quarter thick at the root. XL was really heavy. I remember the rollout, a big affair with local media types. The radar wasn't installed yet, so the moment the tow bar was disconnected from the nose strut, the plane promptly sat back on it's tail. Too funny. They had two shop guys hang on the nose to pull it back down so the tow bar could be reattached before pictures were taken.
Here's a little known factoid explaining why that thing was ever built in the first place. Here's the design team. Three middle-aged men and a 20-something kid who just happened to be the youngest son of the CEO of the corporation. You figure it out
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Scamp_team1-1_zpsgvy1zykh.jpg)
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Moving on... an old favorite.
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/ugly_zpsvqysydzd.jpg)
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Jesus guys. This ain't that hard. (That's a hint by the way ;) )
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Jesus' airplane! :cool:
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Jesus' airplane! :cool:
Believe it or not, you're getting warmer..... :D
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Believe it or not, you're getting warmer..... :D
Actually I think my Lord and Savior could do much better than the worst plane ever made.
That is the infamous Christmas Bullet. Also known as the Cantilever Aero Bullet. At least Cuthbert Mills got to go and see Jesus not too far into the thing's maiden flight.
Here's a dandy.
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10462775_10204057832275702_7636805686929665133_n.jpg)
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Actually I think my Lord and Savior could do much better than the worst plane ever made.
That is the infamous Christmas Bullet. Also known as the Cantilever Aero Bullet. At least Cuthbert Mills got to go and see Jesus not too far into the thing's maiden flight.
Here's a dandy.
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10462775_10204057832275702_7636805686929665133_n.jpg)
WTG Blinder. The man was a total Charlatan.
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WTG Blinder. The man was a total Charlatan.
I agree. The shameful thing is that the over-educated bum got away with it.
I've learned a good amount of early aviation from listening to stories from my grandfather (WWII pilot pictured below) which were handed down from his father (a WWI pilot).
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/18044_1285695592090_4572671_n.jpg)
Note: This picture is NOT part of the game. Far too easy to identify this fine Grumman machine.
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Ok gents, I'll give you a hint. The rainbow plane is not an American model. It is European. That should narrow your search a bit. :banana:
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Actually I think my Lord and Savior could do much better than the worst plane ever made.
That is the infamous Christmas Bullet. Also known as the Cantilever Aero Bullet. At least Cuthbert Mills got to go and see Jesus not too far into the thing's maiden flight.
Here's a dandy.
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10462775_10204057832275702_7636805686929665133_n.jpg)
MY-103
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MY-103
Correct! The Mylius My-103 Mistral! :salute Feel free to post the next pic. If you opt to pass then I will post one tomorrow if no one else volunteers an image.
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Here goes, the first plane my step-dad built in our shop at the house:
(http://planesandchoppers.com.s3.amazonaws.com/123.jpg)
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Moving on... an old favorite.
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/ugly_zpsvqysydzd.jpg)
Hmmm looks kind of like a #9 footprint smoothing... or a Stanley jointing plane!
:neener:
:salute
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Rutan Long EZ?
-C+
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Rutan Long EZ?
-C+
Correct!
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(http://i.imgur.com/KPM0edk.jpg) (http://imgur.com/KPM0edk)
Could be easy...
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Vultee XA-41
Try this:
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/PSX_20140626_105743_zps0ifszmqh.jpg)
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He 111 :headscratch:?
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He 111 :headscratch:?
After going thru the dryer a few times? Afraid not. :)
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hint: a celestial body is in the title
this puppy also had 6 37mm m4 cannons and flew from 1941-44 as an X-plane
(http://i.imgur.com/vVT84An.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/vVT84An.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/vVT84An.jpg)
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Caproni CA.313
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hint: a celestial body is in the title
this puppy also had 6 37mm m4 cannons and flew from 1941-44 as an X-plane
(http://i.imgur.com/vVT84An.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/vVT84An.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/vVT84An.jpg)
Blinder put the XP-67 up a few days ago. :huh. BTW, this pig would have flown even worse if they actually had installed all those heavy 37's.
So is anybody going to tell me what that is?
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Caproni CA.313
No, afraid not Gray.
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That's a tough one.
Not a German design?
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That's a tough one.
Not a German design?
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No, it's not a German design. :)
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Looks like a Siebel FH 104 with the later Si 204 style canopy.
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Looks like a Siebel FH 104 with the later Si 204 style canopy.
Afraid not. Actually, I'm kinda messing with you guys. The Luftwaffe paint scheme is bogus. ;)
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Looks like a Percival design.
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No, it's not a German design. :)
LOL, during the early hours I cross eyedly read this wrong! :lol
I read that it was a German design. Stupid me! :lol
The plane, Aero Ae-45S Super. Pretty plane! Czechs have built quite a few nice looking planes.
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"Actually, I'm kinda messing with you guys. The Luftwaffe paint scheme is bogus. "
Ok, so it is a post war design. I did go through all Czech designs as well but not post war models, but to me it looked like an early Messerschmitt design -which it partly is.
I was pretty sure the engines were aircooled Argus 410s or 411s but those are probably Walther Minors.
Nice one. :salute
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LOL, during the early hours I cross eyedly read this wrong! :lol
I read that it was a German design. Stupid me! :lol
The plane, Aero Ae-45S Super. Pretty plane! Czechs have built quite a few nice looking planes.
WTG. Yeah the AE-45 is a cool looking plane. (BTW I converted the color photo I found over to B&W just to add to the confusion :devil)
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WTG. Yeah the AE-45 is a cool looking plane. (BTW I converted the color photo I found over to B&W just to add to the confusion :devil)
:rofl :aok
I suspected a Czech design, but limited myself to WW2 era as well. You really got me there :devil
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Moving on...
(If you look closely you can actually see a mini 2cmex inside )
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-06-27-09-37-31-1_zpsjuetbwfl.png)
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Moving on...
(If you look closely you can actually see a mini 2cmex inside )
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-06-27-09-37-31-1_zpsjuetbwfl.png)
Oh that's clever! Normally I see RVs painted up like P-51s or P-40s here at KTHV but I've never seen a Rand KR-1 painted up like a Japanese fighter before. This is nice. :aok
Here's an easy peesy one. :D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10464031_10204165717452764_429950867794023739_n.jpg?oh=e82dcc73da527f8ba77f592d39164427&oe=5426888A&__gda__=1412342965_e8637497f2c7eac061d614b1fa1dd3ea)
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TU-128
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TU-128
See. Told ya it was easy. :aok
Here. Try another one.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10513385_10204165738573292_1691079508574830112_n.jpg)
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Couzinet 101
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Couzinet 101
Very good. :aok Tag! You're it!
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Let's go in a different direction...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-01-09-22-51_zpsir2d0rqm.png)
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Let's go in a different direction...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-01-09-22-51_zpsir2d0rqm.png)
That would be the Chinese CAIC Z-10. :D
How bout this one?
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10489874_10204193027335494_1351623083015104654_n.jpg)
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That would be the Chinese CAIC Z-10. :D
How bout this one?
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10489874_10204193027335494_1351623083015104654_n.jpg)
Bristol 173 Belvedere :old:
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Bristol 173 Belvedere :old:
Correct! :aok Your turn danny. Give us a good one!
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OK, probably too easy but:
(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu108/metallldan/whassis.jpg) (http://s638.photobucket.com/user/metallldan/media/whassis.jpg.html)
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OK, probably too easy but:
(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu108/metallldan/whassis.jpg) (http://s638.photobucket.com/user/metallldan/media/whassis.jpg.html)
Martin-Baker MB-5 :banana:
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Martin-Baker MB-5 :banana:
Hacker! :old:
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(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/14a_zps4f1647f7.jpg) (http://s1114.photobucket.com/user/rwrk2/media/14a_zps4f1647f7.jpg.html)
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Hacker! :old:
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/angrybanana_zps6a88cb9f.gif) (http://s1114.photobucket.com/user/rwrk2/media/angrybanana_zps6a88cb9f.gif.html)
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OK, probably too easy but:
(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu108/metallldan/whassis.jpg) (http://s638.photobucket.com/user/metallldan/media/whassis.jpg.html)
Hawker Weather Disturbance
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Well I don't know nearly as much about this stuff as you guys do but I do want to see this thread keep going, so hang on a sec while I pull something out of my arse here...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t7djcl2eh5ri7q3/itsgotwingsandmaybeanenginetoo.jpg
Note that link might not be good in a month or so.
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nrshida's is the Miles M.30 X-Minor. It was an early attempt at a blended wing design.
Mar's is an early production MiG-21 variant. It may be an early Soviet A or perhaps a Vietnamese F-13. The recessed green cone and bubble canopy suggests its the later.
How about this one?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10417813_10204217855596185_3224492801735520180_n.jpg)
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nrshida's is the Miles M.30 X-Minor. It was an early attempt at a blended wing design.
Oh he's good. (http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/notworthy.gif)
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Oh he's good. (http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/notworthy.gif)
You flatter me sir. :salute
I would have answered much sooner but I spent the week in western Michigan cycling the local trails and combing the beaches of the big lake. Twas quite a nice vacation. :cool:
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(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/b61b/uowramycbabt8n3fg.jpg)
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Well I don't know nearly as much about this stuff as you guys do but I do want to see this thread keep going, so hang on a sec while I pull something out of my arse here...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t7djcl2eh5ri7q3/itsgotwingsandmaybeanenginetoo.jpg
Note that link might not be good in a month or so.
This is the prototype Shenyang J-8.... Two engines.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/J-8_fighter.jpg/1024px-J-8_fighter.jpg)
Developed into this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Shenyang_J-8.JPEG)
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nrshida's is the Miles M.30 X-Minor. It was an early attempt at a blended wing design.
Mar's is an early production MiG-21 variant. It may be an early Soviet A or perhaps a Vietnamese F-13. The recessed green cone and bubble canopy suggests its the later.
How about this one?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10417813_10204217855596185_3224492801735520180_n.jpg)
CBY-3
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(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/b61b/uowramycbabt8n3fg.jpg)
Avro F?
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(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/b61b/uowramycbabt8n3fg.jpg)
"Only when Geoffrey and Nigel finished their homemade aeroplane and started the engine for the first time did they realize with horror that they had forgotten to include a door in their design". :old:
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Avro F?
Correct!
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Psst... hey Widewing... when you post a picture you have to make sure when you right click then click save picture as it doesn't give it away.
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"Only when Geoffrey and Nigel finished their homemade aeroplane and started the engine for the first time did they realize with horror that they had forgotten to include a door in their design". :old:
:lol
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Psst... hey Widewing... when you post a picture you have to make sure when you right click then click save picture as it doesn't give it away.
I forgot about that on this one.... Stupid me....
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Psst... hey Widewing... when you post a picture you have to make sure when you right click then click save picture as it doesn't give it away.
Yeah, Lusche busted me once that way. So the next rare Sturmgeschütz picture I put up was renamed "happyfluffybunny.jpg". Damn sneaky Germans. :lol
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This is the prototype Shenyang J-8.... Two engines.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/J-8_fighter.jpg/1024px-J-8_fighter.jpg)
Developed into this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Shenyang_J-8.JPEG)
Bingo! :aok
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Psst... hey Widewing... when you post a picture you have to make sure when you right click then click save picture as it doesn't give it away.
Only cheaters do that. :devil
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If no one has any objections. Let's have a-go at this fine machine.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10533745_10204217855716188_865443835041948970_n.jpg)
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Vought VS-326
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-08-18-50-13-1_zpshfjpfbbs.png)
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(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/d603/1vlv5n0643l8lkwfg.jpg)
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Vought VS-326
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-08-18-50-13-1_zpshfjpfbbs.png)
Stipa-Caproni
(http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Stipa-Caproni-replica-2.jpg)
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(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/d603/1vlv5n0643l8lkwfg.jpg)
Vultee V-11
Feel free to post the next picture. Im just a guesser :aok
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Try this dorky thing:(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Doak_VZ-4_Fort_Eustis_VA_22.04.04R.jpg)
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-> Doak_VZ-4_Fort_Eustis_VA_22.04.04R.jpg
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Vultee V-11
Feel free to post the next picture. Im just a guesser :aok
It's not a V-11....
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GAH!
Stipa-Caproni-replica-2.jpg
and THEN
Doak_VZ-4_Fort_Eustis_VA_22.04.04R.jpg
Grrr
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It's not a V-11....
Nope, it's a V-12.
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Kick start! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-transport030.gif)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10404073_10204249482346834_4142097603598474054_n.jpg)
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IL-54
:cheers:
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GAH!
Stipa-Caproni-replica-2.jpg
Grrr
The Stipa-Caproni was an answer, not a "name that plane"... GAH!
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IL-54
:cheers:
No cigar for you. :(
That's an Alekseev Type 150 (or OKB-1 150 if you prefer)
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The Stipa-Caproni was an answer, not a "name that plane"... GAH!
Widewing was responding to a "gimme" that I threw out there. Every connoisseur of bizarre aircraft knows the Stipa-Caproni. ;)
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaand hows about dis one? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused013.gif)
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10488076_10204249481946824_5658393101841612937_n.jpg)
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand hows about dis one? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused013.gif)
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10488076_10204249481946824_5658393101841612937_n.jpg)
Boulton Paul P-119
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Boulton Paul P-119
Excellent! And how bout this one? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-bounce012.gif)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10385407_10204165838175782_3020927877557894710_n.jpg)
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Excellent! And how bout this one? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-bounce012.gif)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10385407_10204165838175782_3020927877557894710_n.jpg)
Technically, the BP 119 was a mock-up only. Was never built.
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Excellent! And how bout this one? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-bounce012.gif)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10385407_10204165838175782_3020927877557894710_n.jpg)
Loire-Nieuport 161
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Loire-Nieuport 161
Looking good! :aok And here is another!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/1623553_10204217855676187_4441063220326334845_n.jpg)
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Edo XOSE-1
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Edo XOSE-1
Now we're rolling again! I'd love to have one of these bad boys! What a conversation piece as you taxi up to the local FBO for some 100 low lead, eh?
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10500446_10204217856076197_6350905389260032532_n.jpg)
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Now we're rolling again! I'd love to have one of these bad boys! What a conversation piece as you taxi up to the local FBO for some 100 low lead, eh?
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10500446_10204217856076197_6350905389260032532_n.jpg)
Bell XFM-1 (later YFM-1) Airacuda.
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(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/1570/fiywky9bpl4lgeefg.jpg)
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Culver Cadet
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Culver Cadet
Close... Close enough. Culver TDC-2 (based upon the Mooney designed Cadet airframe).
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Speaking of the Airacuda, my now deceased friend (and former Flying Tiger) Erik Shilling flew the YFM-1 Airacuda, and thought it an electrical nightmare.
He also flew the Curtiss YP-37A, which conspired to kill him.
Here's a period video with both...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDs0SANU3lM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDs0SANU3lM)
Here's Erik's story of flying these too, on one of my old webpages...
http://planesandpilotsofww2.webs.com/Prototypes.html (http://planesandpilotsofww2.webs.com/Prototypes.html)
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Close... Close enough. Culver TDC-2 (based upon the Mooney designed Cadet airframe).
Yeah, the Navy aircraft right?
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Yeah, the Navy aircraft right?
Yep, a radio controlled drone, with a full functional cockpit.
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Just read the Airacuda write-up. The fire control setup with gyro-stabilized guns is pretty cool, but powering EVERYTHING full time with the APU? Insane. :uhoh
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Let's try this one...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-17-12-06-41-1_zpscf5gx0x7.png)
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I didn't know the makers of the Family Truckster also built airplanes.
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Let's try this one...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-17-12-06-41-1_zpscf5gx0x7.png)
That is an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet.
Ugly ugly ugly!!! Here is a much prettier plane. :D
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/l/t1.0-9/10511075_10204249481666817_7711272313345817018_n.jpg)
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That is an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet.
Ugly ugly ugly!!! Here is a much prettier plane. :D
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/l/t1.0-9/10511075_10204249481666817_7711272313345817018_n.jpg)
Boulton P.9
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Boulton P.9
Oh yeah! Here we go! :rock
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10487607_10204249481986825_938466257250304426_n.jpg)
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Oh yeah! Here we go! :rock
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10487607_10204249481986825_938466257250304426_n.jpg)
Blohm & Voss not sure which model tho :headscratch:
Ha139 maybe?
Ha 139B/Umbau? Just guessing cause of the large glass nose.
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(http://horten.greyfalcon.us/pictures/2.jpg)
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Focke-Wulfe 147 Schauplatzmodell
a.k.a. "theater model."
:devil
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(http://horten.greyfalcon.us/pictures/2.jpg)
it's obviously the fictional BV-38 Flying Wing from Raiders.
http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_Wing (http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_Wing)
try this one.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10174895_10204249481626816_2280098633830542026_n.jpg)
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it's obviously the fictional BV-38 Flying Wing from Raiders.
http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_Wing (http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_Wing)
try this one.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10174895_10204249481626816_2280098633830542026_n.jpg)
Boulton Paul P.120.
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Okay, this one may be a bit tricky...
In this photo, we see an AVG Tomahawk (H81-3, a unique hybrid built exclusively for the Chinese, using serial numbers taken from a Brit Tomahawk contract).
The question is... Can you name the other plane in the photo (to the left and behind the Tomahawk)?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/10547372_10204262038056490_5417637115596140307_o.jpg)
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Ryan STM-2E
-C+
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(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/FLOOB1/jjj_zps8ba28dc2.jpg)
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1959 Cadillac Eldorado?
I mean, Clint Eastwood did drive one, right?
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Since we're moving into the imaginary :rolleyes: ... here ya go:
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-19-21-32-46-1_zpsqfsusghs.png)
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Ryan STM-2E
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Excellent! The Chinese bought 48 of them to train pilots...
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Since we're moving into the imaginary :rolleyes: ... here ya go:
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-19-21-32-46-1_zpsqfsusghs.png)
The con ride from a few years ago...
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Since we're moving into the imaginary :rolleyes: ... here ya go:
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-19-21-32-46-1_zpsqfsusghs.png)
It's a shark with a freeking laser beam on it's head! :O
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C'mon people! Throw me a frickin' bone over here! (http://www.buddy-icons.info/img/smile/93.gif)
And let's keep in real.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10524718_10204284054571118_2801066406633861108_n.jpg)
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Sukhoi T49
-C+
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How about this?
(http://i.imgur.com/Pn3HFoJ.jpg)
-C+
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SU-1
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Correct!
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-21-20-48-52_zpsrcjzr0qh.png)
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-21-20-48-52_zpsrcjzr0qh.png)
Ah the German markings were throwing me off. This is a Loire 130 French flying boat. But I can't tell if its the M or the CI variant.
How bout this one?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10534727_10204284054851125_4015927645852896557_n.jpg?oh=eda582e0df8910e85f30616543c97a92&oe=5452886A&__gda__=1414035221_0feb770b8f976263c375c535c11abd1f)
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La-250
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-22-20-05-56_zps31rei9qa.png)
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-22-20-05-56_zps31rei9qa.png)
Looks like the FMA IA.37 Ala Delta built by the Argentinians back in the 1950s to me. :D
Here's a nice one.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10543622_10204284055011129_602862121696213585_n.jpg)
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Sukhoi P-1
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(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/FLOOB1/namesit_zps4b9345a1.jpg~original)
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Moisant Biplane (yeah, that's metal)
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-24-00-42-27-1_zpsfrivtixa.png)
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-24-00-42-27-1_zpsfrivtixa.png)
Kawanishi K-12 Sakura or Cherry Blossom (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool18.gif)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10500575_10204284055531142_6085664980096366927_n.jpg)
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SNCASO SO.4000
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-24-17-50-23_zpsapwg5hga.png)
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-24-17-50-23_zpsapwg5hga.png)
Supermarine Spitfire. Shizzle, now it's my go again. At last :banana:
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If it helps, that thing is even more bizarre looking from the side. :D
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-24-17-50-23_zpsapwg5hga.png)
Ah! An oldie but a greenhouse looking goodie! The splendid Lawrence-Lewis Aeroplane Company and their B-2 Flying Boat. Nicely done!
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10303469_10204284055931152_4254696984895388957_n.jpg)
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Leduc 022
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-25-15-51-32-1_zpsvm9svnpx.png)
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That is J.D. Blaney behind the controls of his Tractor Monoplane or Low Centre of Gravity Monoplane circa 1911.
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10423830_10204284088051955_5951904732159996994_n.jpg)
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That is J.D. Blaney behind the controls of his Tractor Monoplane or Low Centre of Gravity Monoplane circa 1911.
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10423830_10204284088051955_5951904732159996994_n.jpg)
Looks like a a B29 and an AR234 got together...
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Looks Russian. IL-22?
(http://s1.gigaimg.com/avaxhome/b1/d3/001ed3b1_medium.jpeg)
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Looks Russian. IL-22?
(http://s1.gigaimg.com/avaxhome/b1/d3/001ed3b1_medium.jpeg)
correct Yankee67! you're up! :aok
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(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130605091239/xenonauts/images/b/b5/Mig32.jpg)
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(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130605091239/xenonauts/images/b/b5/Mig32.jpg)
MiG-25 Foxbat?
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MiG-25 Foxbat?
I think you have to add 6 to the designation.
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Not a foxbat
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He didn't say it's a Foxbat. He said it's a, hang on... 25 + 6 = 31 ... , Foxhound.
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-28-13-43-59-1_zpsys1geovl.png)
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Looks like this:
(http://www.americancombatplanes.com/images/29-14n.jpg)
XF-103 Thunderwarrior?
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Looks like this:
(http://www.americancombatplanes.com/images/29-14n.jpg)
XF-103 Thunderwarrior?
Yep, from the Golden Era of Jets. :aok
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Not a foxhound. it's a mig32 foxtrot, kind of disappointed in you plane spotters.
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So now we just make up planes and let people guess?
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So now we just make up planes and let people guess?
It comes from some game called "Xenonauts", no doubt popular with Generation Duh. It's a highly advanced version of the deadly Mig-28 featured in Top Gun. You know the dreaded Soviet aircraft that can dogfight while carrying 1500lb Exocet missiles underwing.
Frankly I never thought it was a Mig-31. I figured it was either Darth Vader's golf cart, or an evolutionary offspring of the Flying Sub from "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea"
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Not a foxhound. it's a mig32 foxtrot, kind of disappointed in you plane spotters.
I see what you did there ;)
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We can go in that direction too. Heck, we already had the wildly popular and state of the art Blohm & Voss model 38 a few pages ago. Here is one of my personal childhood favorites. I would so own one of these bad boys!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10410122_10204387533518027_3062599971446353176_n.jpg)
Look at me! I'm Rick Hunter! :rock
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It comes from some game called "Xenonauts", no doubt popular with Generation Duh. It's a highly advanced version of the deadly Mig-28 featured in Top Gun. You know the dreaded Soviet aircraft that can dogfight while carrying 1500lb Exocet missiles underwing.
Frankly I never thought it was a Mig-31. I figured it was either Darth Vader's golf cart, or an evolutionary offspring of the Flying Sub from "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea"
Makes sense.
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We can go in that direction too. Heck, we already had the wildly popular and state of the art Blohm & Voss model 38 a few pages ago. Here is one of my personal childhood favorites. I would so own one of these bad boys!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10410122_10204387533518027_3062599971446353176_n.jpg)
Look at me! I'm Rick Hunter! :rock
I prefer the real Valkyrie. From MY childhood.
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-28-19-25-09-1_zpsxu1wvf4o.png)
Only downside is, it doesn't turn into a toaster, or a vacuum cleaner.
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I prefer the real Valkyrie. From MY childhood.
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-28-19-25-09-1_zpsxu1wvf4o.png)
You do know the XB-70 was the inspiration for the name of the VF-1 even as the Eagle and Tomcat were the basis for it's creation. Still, ya gotta admit, in Jolly Roger livery and in full battle mech mode the VF-1 is one badass fighter! :aok
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You do know the XB-70 was the inspiration for the name of the VF-1 even as the Eagle and Tomcat were the basis for it's creation. Still, ya gotta admit, in Jolly Roger livery and in full battle mech mode the VF-1 is one badass fighter! :aok
Dude, I grew up on Jonny Quest, back when Race Bannon could just shoot people on Friday nights, and they didn't get back up. Imagine that.
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Dude, I grew up on Jonny Quest, back when Race Bannon could just shoot people on Friday nights, and they didn't get back up. Imagine that.
Right then! Well be a lamb and give us a new aeroplane to have a guess at! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-transport006.gif)
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Here's an easy one. I definitely like the setting.
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-28-20-07-37-1_zpsaeir1i70.png)
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Wrong again, it has nothing to do with the fictitious mig 28.
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Here's an easy one. I definitely like the setting.
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-28-20-07-37-1_zpsaeir1i70.png)
Easy. Its the Mirage200ELA (Extremley Low Altitude) fighter.
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Wrong again, it has nothing to do with the fictitious mig 28.
Yes it has: They are both called MiG:s and they are both fictional.
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Here's an easy one.
(http://johnnyjet.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Plane-bathroom-610x457.jpg)
If you don't get this you're a discredit to autistic plane spotters everywhere.
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Vacadoodoo XIX?
-C+
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Boeing 747
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Easy. Its the Mirage200ELA (Extremley Low Altitude) fighter.
:aok :lol
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Head%20on_zpsrx8uajmr.jpg)
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Oh I'd know those squared off nacelles anywhere! That's a Curtiss-Wright XF-87 Blackhawk! :rock I love that plane, man!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10525676_10204284054491116_2634833497186309778_n.jpg)
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XF-90
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(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/WHAT.jpg)
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XF-90
Model for the Blackhawk comic.
(http://www.aviation-history.com/lockheed/xf90-10.jpg)
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XF-90
Yep.... I published an XF-90 article in Flight Journal, around August of 2002.... Warren Bodie supplied the photos and wrote a sidebar... Long time ago..
I found it copied here... http://www.456fis.org/LOCKHEED_XF-90.htm (http://www.456fis.org/LOCKHEED_XF-90.htm)
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Yep.... I published an XF-90 article in Flight Journal, around August of 2002.... Warren Bodie supplied the photos and wrote a sidebar... Long time ago..
I found it copied here... http://www.456fis.org/LOCKHEED_XF-90.htm (http://www.456fis.org/LOCKHEED_XF-90.htm)
Thanks, WW, very nice article. I remember building Aurora's kit. Never knew anything about the plane, though.
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Yep.... I published an XF-90 article in Flight Journal, around August of 2002.... Warren Bodie supplied the photos and wrote a sidebar... Long time ago..
I found it copied here... http://www.456fis.org/LOCKHEED_XF-90.htm (http://www.456fis.org/LOCKHEED_XF-90.htm)
Indeed WW, great article. :aok. Do you have any additional info on the articulated tail?
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Of course - without cheating... any guesses?
(http://goo.gl/2IjFln)
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Of course - without cheating... any guesses?
(http://goo.gl/2IjFln)
YF-17. Some of us don't need to cheat. :D
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-30-15-09-13_zpsalc1fsrm.png)
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-07-30-15-09-13_zpsalc1fsrm.png)
AHRLAC - Advanced High Performance Reconnaissance Light Aircraft
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nobody guessed Wmaker's little French monoplane?
C'mon aviation junkies! I wanna know what the heck that thing is! :(
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nobody guessed Wmaker's little French monoplane?
C'mon aviation junkies! I wanna know what the heck that thing is! :(
Will do, but it may take a while. I'll even do it without Tineye. :rolleyes:
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nobody guessed Wmaker's little French monoplane?
C'mon aviation junkies! I wanna know what the heck that thing is! :(
Well. Nobody got my little Finnish biplane... Not even the Finns! :uhoh
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(https://navypilotoverseas.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/6107455384_a800d7c8c1_b.jpg?w=950)
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(https://navypilotoverseas.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/6107455384_a800d7c8c1_b.jpg?w=950)
That's a North American AJ Savage.
Now somebody guess that little French monoplane please. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angelic001.gif)
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Well. Nobody got my little Finnish biplane... Not even the Finns! :uhoh
It wasn't a VL Saaski II? I haven't followed the thread since I posted that in May.
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Well. Nobody got my little Finnish biplane... Not even the Finns! :uhoh
I've missed maaaany posts in this thread. Could you post a direct link?
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Too difficult? Even for our Finnish members (hint)?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/hmm.jpg)
Here it is.
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Ok. Pressing forward.
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10505619_10204284055331137_2102151664686732077_n.jpg?oh=13c08dc06c87b632b33920d9a55f681f&oe=54451B4E)
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I've missed maaaany posts in this thread. Could you post a direct link?
Yeah Aspen got it. A Sääski II named "Mĺsen" (The Seagull). It was the mount of female aviation pioneer Gidsken Jacobsen in the early 1930's.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/hmm.jpg)
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Ok. Pressing forward.
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10505619_10204284055331137_2102151664686732077_n.jpg?oh=13c08dc06c87b632b33920d9a55f681f&oe=54451B4E)
Nord 1500 Griffon
An experimental Ramjet aircraft.
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-08-05-12-39-21-1_zpsb1faj1wk.png)
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Geebus. I thought maybe a early training aircraft from Corsair but I'm stumped. Engine cowling is definitely pre/early war... And the rear seating position makes me think it's a racing or speed variant...
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Geebus. I thought maybe a early training aircraft from Corsair but I'm stumped. Engine cowling is definitely pre/early war... And the rear seating position makes me think it's a racing or speed variant...
It looks like a Bellanca 28-90 "Flash" to me. But I could be wrong. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think005.gif)
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It looks like a Bellanca 28-90 "Flash" to me. But I could be wrong. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think005.gif)
It's the Bellanca. :aok Ain't that thing just hideous?
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It's the Bellanca. :aok Ain't that thing just hideous?
Yes Bellanca, despite being Italian, made some real ugly airplanes that would give the French a good run.
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Ok - I'll try a weird one for you guys... hint - look at the tail
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--cIx6bKp5--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18ca5794uajofjpg.jpg)
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Northrop HL-10
"We can rebuild him". ;) (the M2-F2 predecessor)
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Yes Bellanca, despite being Italian, made some real ugly airplanes that would give the French a good run.
Bellanca actually moved to the US in 1911. This particular plane was likely built about 10 minutes from my house in Delaware. I had relatives that worked there. There's a group here trying to restore the original hangar at that facility and make it a museum.
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Bellanca actually moved to the US in 1911. This particular plane was likely built about 10 minutes from my house in Delaware. I had relatives that worked there. There's a group here trying to restore the original hangar at that facility and make it a museum.
Yeah, it was intended for export to Spain to participate in the civil war there, but it didn't make it in time.
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-08-08-14-07-08-1_zps2ctjeubh.png)
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Northrop HL-10
"We can rebuild him". ;) (the M2-F2 predecessor)
Good catch 'the six million dollar man' Mr. Steve Austin (not the WWE wrestler). I made a Tesca model of it in 1977 when I was younger. I came across it from the NASA website and remembered the intro to TSMDM and the model I made. They don't make shows like that any more ;)
Ok - this one... hint, it was part of an early trophy race from the 1920's
(http://www.airrace.com/images/1922%20S%2051.jpg)
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That's an Italian SEAI S.51 from the Schneider Trophy races.
Now, anybody gonna tell me what that is I posted?
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That's an Italian SEAI S.51 from the Schneider Trophy races.
Now, anybody gonna tell me what that is I posted?
I know this plane. In my second year at Embry-Riddle I did a report on Piaggio Aero. This is Giovanni Pegna's light sport Rondine, circa 1923.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10561650_10204478718837603_775162611732882201_n.jpg?oh=9ae981fb418b73905f879d4823280bb9&oe=547E41E9&__gda__=1416479696_2b375a0064f37260791a8fe5cc682148)
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-08-05-12-39-21-1_zpsb1faj1wk.png)
What a horribly designed plane to need three spars to hold the main wings on, and a spar to hold the horizontal stabilizers on.
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What a horribly designed plane to need three spars to hold the main wings on, and a spar to hold the horizontal stabilizers on.
This was a common design practice. The wing and stab are not a cantilever design, thus the external bracing. Keep in mind that the early Bf 109s had externally braced horizontal stabilizers well into the early 1940s.
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This was a common design practice. The wing and stab are not a cantilever design, thus the external bracing. Keep in mind that the early Bf 109s had externally braced horizontal stabilizers well into the early 1940s.
Alright, if you have time, post some pictures of these commonly designed aircraft that require 4 external braces to keep the main wing and tail attached to the fuselage.
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(http://shropweb.com/photo/DSCF0006_cropped.JPG)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Piper-Pawnee-G-BFRY.jpg)
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Look at all those wires on the a/c that held the World speed record (709 km/h) for awhile.
(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/5/9/1889954.jpg)
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External bracing was a common design practice well into the 1930s for military aircraft, and still used today on light civil aircraft....
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r278/wacoaso/scan0013-8.jpg)
(http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/CA/Airfields_CA_SanDiego_N_htm_m5057c907.jpg)
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/aww2/a12/a12-5.jpg)
(http://www.air-and-space.com/20060521%20Chino/DSC_6014%20P-26%20N3378G%2033-123%20right%20side%20in%20flight%20Steve%20Hinton%20l.jpg)
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A handful of aircraft so horribly designed that they needed the parasitic drag of external bracing just to fly. Good show ol' Chap.
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A handful of aircraft so horribly designed that they needed the parasitic drag of external bracing just to fly. Good show ol' Chap.
Until the development of stressed skin structures there was no alternative. You are faulting the designers for not having invented a new construction method.
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The agro-plane? It was designed far after stressed skin.
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And is saves weight. As long as the planes are small and the speed is moderate its better to have a light construction w external bracing. Almost all light aircraft have it.
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The agro-plane? It was designed far after stressed skin.
Weight is the issue there. The drag difference isn't very much at low speeds, but the weight difference is marked.
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A handful of aircraft so horribly designed that they needed the parasitic drag of external bracing just to fly. Good show ol' Chap.
My lord you're an insufferable one, aren't you? You get proven wrong and you immediately have an insult ready for the evidence shown to you?
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My lord you're an insufferable one, aren't you? You get proven wrong and you immediately have an insult ready for the evidence shown to you?
I have been on these message boards since 1999. You have shown yourself to be a pathological liar. Do not comment on any of my posts, lest I reference some of yours.
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I have been on these message boards since 1999. You have shown yourself to be a pathological liar. Do not comment on any of my posts, lest I reference some of yours.
Feel free. I know my past, as do most of the boards. I also know my present, and my future. A pathological liar? That's a hell of a jump. What do you ACTUALLY know of me? Anything? I doubt it. Stop being so rude, not just to me, but to all of the individuals here. That response to Widewing was particularly uncalled for.
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I have been on these message boards since 1999. You have shown yourself to be a pathological liar. Do not comment on any of my posts, lest I reference some of yours.
You have only been here a year. :eek:
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I have been on these message boards since 1999. You have shown yourself to be a pathological liar. Do not comment on any of my posts, lest I reference some of yours.
You've been on the board since 1999? I have been a structural engineer with Lockheed since 1978. How about if I comment on YOUR idiotic post?? Prior to the availability of high strength aluminum alloys (typically 24xx series ), and the evolution of semi-monocoque designs, external bracing was often the only way to handle wing bending moments. And even for some modern low speed applications (say a crop duster), the addition strength and rigidity it offers may still be preferable to the additional airframe weight required to eliminate the bracing.
There are some very knowledgeable guys on this forum, so before you start spewing some half-baked BS, rest assured that some of them (Karnak & Widewing come to mind) will take you to the mat face first. :rolleyes:
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A handful of aircraft so horribly designed that they needed the parasitic drag of external bracing just to fly. Good show ol' Chap.
All of these planes designers made a decision of structural spar weight versus drag I would guess. Not a bad design at that moment in time. Material advances and new spar technology including advances in calculation methods would eliminate those today with the exception of the ag plane where is strength trumps drag on this specialty plane(Note the mirror).
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All of these planes designers made a decision of structural spar weight versus drag I would guess. Not a bad design at that moment in time. Material advances and new spar technology including advances in calculation methods would eliminate those today with the exception of the ag plane where is strength trumps drag on this specialty plane(Note the mirror).
In many cases, it's not just the weight of the wing spars Randy, but that of the upper wing skins as well. Being in compression, they're often thicker than the lower wing skins in a monocoque or semi-monocoque design to avoid bucking issues.
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Ok. Moving forward again. :rofl
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10561650_10204478718837603_775162611732882201_n.jpg?oh=9ae981fb418b73905f879d4823280bb9&oe=547E41E9&__gda__=1416479696_2b375a0064f37260791a8fe5cc682148)
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Ok. Moving forward again. :rofl
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10561650_10204478718837603_775162611732882201_n.jpg?oh=9ae981fb418b73905f879d4823280bb9&oe=547E41E9&__gda__=1416479696_2b375a0064f37260791a8fe5cc682148)
I'm working on it. For a moment I thought it might be Glen Curtiss' flying AMC Pacer from 1932. :)
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You've been on the board since 1999? I have been a structural engineer with Lockheed since 1978. How about if I comment on YOUR idiotic post?? Prior to the availability of high strength aluminum alloys (typically 24xx series ), and the evolution of semi-monocoque designs, external bracing was often the only way to handle wing bending moments. And even for some modern low speed applications (say a crop duster), the addition strength and rigidity it offers may still be preferable to the additional airframe weight required to eliminate the bracing.
There are some very knowledgeable guys on this forum, so before you start spewing some half-baked BS, rest assured that some of them (Karnak & Widewing come to mind) will take you to the mat face first. :rolleyes:
I deal with aluminum on a daily basis. Apparently you don't know about its age-hardening qualities. At the moment, I am trying my best to repair and document an aluminum (6000 series) storage tank that continually cracks, even from the heat of a grinding wheel. Send your structural engineering degree back to the college you went to, maybe they will refund your money owing to the lack of education you received.
D.B.
B.S Biology/U of L.
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I have truly enjoyed this thread, up to the last day or so.
Thanks to all who have contributed their time and knowledge to such a fascinating subject such as aviation history.
DaveBB,
Thanks for taking what was a good thread and turning it into something wasted. I can't help but wonder if that doesn't sum up you in general.
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I deal with aluminum on a daily basis. Apparently you don't know about its age-hardening qualities. At the moment, I am trying my best to repair and document an aluminum (6000 series) storage tank that continually cracks, even from the heat of a grinding wheel. Send your structural engineering degree back to the college you went to, maybe they will refund your money owing to the lack of education you received.
D.B.
B.S Biology/U of L.
6000 series is alloyed with both silicon and magnesium and was intended to be precipitation hardened. Your grinding wheel is possibly causing localized hardness. You're probably chasing your own cracks.
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I have truly enjoyed this thread, up to the last day or so.
Thanks to all who have contributed their time and knowledge to such a fascinating subject such as aviation history.
DaveBB,
Thanks for taking what was a good thread and turning it into something wasted. I can't help but wonder if that doesn't sum up you in general.
Maybe you should have checked out the threads called "Name that plane" that were prevalent for about 10 years.
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Ok. Moving forward again. :rofl
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10561650_10204478718837603_775162611732882201_n.jpg?oh=9ae981fb418b73905f879d4823280bb9&oe=547E41E9&__gda__=1416479696_2b375a0064f37260791a8fe5cc682148)
SFCA Maillet 21. A tourist flying French plane.
Now... What the heck is this?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/huh.jpg)
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I deal with aluminum on a daily basis. Apparently you don't know about its age-hardening qualities. At the moment, I am trying my best to repair and document an aluminum (6000 series) storage tank that continually cracks, even from the heat of a grinding wheel. Send your structural engineering degree back to the college you went to, maybe they will refund your money owing to the lack of education you received.
D.B.
B.S Biology/U of L.
If I want weldability, or cheap rims for a car, I'll go with 6000 series. We typically stick with 7075 for strength, though I did work with a big 2219 hand forging once on a launcher. (we waited months for Alcoa to get that thing to us, only to see the NC end mill skip a command and turn it into scrap, but I digress).
For your nonsense, I'll stick with the cheaper 5000 series stuff they make lawn furniture out of so we can all sit back and have a good laugh at your BS. In BIOLOGY no less. :rofl
Btw, 5000 series would also be less susceptible to all that heat your generating with that grinder, but undoubtedly you learned that back when you were growing all those aluminum cultures in petri dishes in school. :rofl
Go away kid, you're bothering us.
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Just as a side note. The Wonder Woman episode Flight to Oblivion used the Martin Marietta X-24B as its super secret plane the bad guys were after. I thought the Martin Marietta X-24B had been posted here but could not find it listed.
Cthulhu, I had not thought of the Skin weight. A real good point.
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Now... What the heck is this?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/huh.jpg)
Dude, that's a Fiat.
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I have truly enjoyed this thread, up to the last day or so.
Thanks to all who have contributed their time and knowledge to such a fascinating subject such as aviation history.
DaveBB,
Thanks for taking what was a good thread and turning it into something wasted. I can't help but wonder if that doesn't sum up you in general.
SIM,
Please don't let one heated sidebar ruin your experience on this thread. I started this thread to be a light-hearted and an enlightening forum for we fellow aviation enthusiast to test the boundaries of our aircraft knowledge at the basic level of airframe recognition and identification. It was my hope, which continues to be fulfilled despite the trolling, for us all the challenge and then learn from one another. The previous pages here have clearly revealed to us all just how grand and masterful the scope of manned powered flight is across both time and distance. The sheer number of airframe types produces since Orville and Wilbur first took to the skies is astronomical. I fully intend to continue posting pictures of rare and wonderful aircraft for us all to guess and learn about. And I certainly hope you all will too. Let's right this ship, so to speak, save the structural debating for a separate thread and get back to the fun of the post, research and the educated guess. Thank you.
Now GScholz guessed my French touring plane. Cthulhu guesses his pic correctly to be a Fiat ( a G91 to be exact) so now its his move to post.
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SFCA Maillet 21. A tourist flying French plane.
Now... What the heck is this?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/huh.jpg)
Interesting C of G. Must have a small engine.
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SIM,
Please don't let one heated sidebar ruin your experience on this thread. I started this thread to be a light-hearted and an enlightening forum for we fellow aviation enthusiast to test the boundaries of our aircraft knowledge at the basic level of airframe recognition and identification. It was my hope, which continues to be fulfilled despite the trolling, for us all the challenge and then learn from one another. The previous pages here have clearly revealed to us all just how grand and masterful the scope of manned powered flight is across both time and distance. The sheer number of airframe types produces since Orville and Wilbur first took to the skies is astronomical. I fully intend to continue posting pictures of rare and wonderful aircraft for us all to guess and learn about. And I certainly hope you all will too. Let's right this ship, so to speak, save the structural debating for a separate thread and get back to the fun of the post, research and the educated guess. Thank you.
Now Gscholz guessed my French touring plane. So let's take a crack at his new posted aircraft. Shall we?
Absolutely, this is a great thread. Let's keep it rolling. :aok
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Absolutely, this is a great thread. Let's keep it rolling. :aok
Your up sir. Please give us a good stumper! :x
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Absolutely, this is a great thread. Let's keep it rolling. :aok
It' a rubbish thread, I could only guess one plane :furious
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It' a rubbish thread, I could only guess one plane :furious
Not to worry. Next semester Professor Cthulhu is teaching a refresher course: Airframe Identification 101. Go ahead and sign up now before the seats fill up. I think I just might! :D
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(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/ce59/w71eg337ddqdbg6fg.jpg)
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A handful of aircraft so horribly designed that they needed the parasitic drag of external bracing just to fly. Good show ol' Chap.
Horribly designed? The first one I showed is the Hall Bulldog, designed by Bob Hall. Who was Bob Hall? He designed the Gee Bee Model Z and dominated the Cleveland air races in 1931. He designed the Bulldog for the 1932 race. Hall would go on to be the Chief Engineer at Grumman from the late 30s through the early 1970s. I suspect he wouldn't be interested in the aeronautical wisdom and critique of a biology major.
The third aircraft is the Curtiss A-12 Shrike ground attack aircraft. It entered service in 1933. In China, the A-12 proved effective against the Japanese, even downing 3 or 4 Japanese dive bombers. Some were still in service when the U.S. entered the war. When it first flew, it was considered a cutting edge design.
The bottom photo shows the Boeing P-26, aka "Peashooter". First flown in 1932, it reached squadrons in 1933. At the time, it was a world class fighter. P-26s shot down three Zeros in the Philippines.
All of the above were at the leading edge of aeronautical design in the early 1930s, a time when the great powers were still largely equipped with biplanes. To state that they were horribly designed is the defensive ranting of someone utterly ignorant of the topic, "ol chap".
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I deal with aluminum on a daily basis. Apparently you don't know about its age-hardening qualities. At the moment, I am trying my best to repair and document an aluminum (6000 series) storage tank that continually cracks, even from the heat of a grinding wheel. Send your structural engineering degree back to the college you went to, maybe they will refund your money owing to the lack of education you received.
D.B.
B.S Biology/U of L.
Most Mechanical Engineers are well versed in the properties of the various aluminum alloys.
To grind 6000 series, especially 6061, they should use a 46-H wheel and lots of light cutting oil for cooling. No water based lubes... They'll just clog the wheel.
6061 is age hardened by heat treat, as it is a precipitation hardened alloy. If you want to avoid over-aging the material, you'll need abundant cooling during grinding.
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I deal with aluminum on a daily basis. Apparently you don't know about its age-hardening qualities. At the moment, I am trying my best to repair and document an aluminum (6000 series) storage tank that continually cracks, even from the heat of a grinding wheel. Send your structural engineering degree back to the college you went to, maybe they will refund your money owing to the lack of education you received.
D.B.
B.S Biology/U of L.
Explain what a "B.S. in Biology" has to do with Aeronautical Engineering?
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I have a masters of engineering. It is NOT in aero or anything remotely linked to aero or aero materials. I stay out of that lane to prevent face palming. Dave you may want to practice this here in the quiet privacy of the internet. There are some wicked smart (best Boston accent) fellas on this forum who both do this sort of thing professionally and for a hobby.
The flying wires on the sm were a work of art. Flat and streamlined, yet able to take the loads of 400mph flight. Hell... just synching two linked engines in a time before fuel injection... those guys in the late 20s and early 30s racing the Schneider cup were on the cutting edge.
Not sure what that airplane is, but with the 190 wooden model in front of it, German?
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That's a PZL Tarpan from Poland Widewing.
From the size of that big honking spinner you no doubt were hoping we'd assume it was French. :lol
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Here's an easy one for ya...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Screenshot_2014-08-11-09-09-40_zpspgixx6eq.png)
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Not to worry. Next semester Professor Cthulhu is teaching a refresher course: Airframe Identification 101. Go ahead and sign up now before the seats fill up. I think I just might! :D
You know what really blows my mind Blinder? Some of these I've never seen, and if I have, it's been decades. But after seeing so many planes for so many years, you start to see patterns from the different manufacturers. Curtiss or Republic tails, North American cowling, etc. And it's all pretty much subconscious. It's like some dusty brain cell way back in the last row suddenly raises it's hand and shouts "I know! I know!". And I bet you these other guys are experiencing the same sensation.
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Vickers 161..... had a few minutes at work to web crawl... was designed to mount a 37mm gun firing upwards like the Schräge Musik
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Vickers 161..... had a few minutes at work to web crawl... was designed to mount a 37mm gun firing upwards like the Schräge Musik
Just imagine how the plane must have responded to firing that thing. It looks like the axis of fire passes pretty close to the centers of pressure for the two wings, but the gun is still offset to the right side of the plane. I wonder if the pilot loaded the gun with his feet. :)
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The Vickers may have been the most innovative plane of its day from the museum write up.. What a super R/C scale plane it would be.
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It's like some dusty brain cell way back in the last row suddenly raises it's hand and shouts "I know! I know!". And I bet you these other guys are experiencing the same sensation.
LOL, so well said and agreed! ;) :aok
You've got a quite a head start though for several reasons...
...I wasn't born yet when you went to work for Lockheed. :salute
Would be nice to pick your brain! :)
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Here's an easy one for ya...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Screenshot_2014-08-11-09-09-40_zpspgixx6eq.png)
Great design solution for its time.
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Ok. Great selections up there! :aok I'll get us going again.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10557427_10204284055571143_1697927269086503168_n.jpg)
Nobody had better say Saber or Fury on this one! If you do I'll be utterly disappointed!
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Ok. Great selections up there! :aok I'll get us going again.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10557427_10204284055571143_1697927269086503168_n.jpg)
Nobody had better say Saber or Fury on this one! If you do I'll be utterly disappointed!
Nord 2200, single prototype.
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Nord 2200, single prototype.
Outstanding! You got a stumper for us? It's your go Wmaker. :rock
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Outstanding! You got a stumper for us? It's your go Wmaker. :rock
Oldie but a goodie... ;)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/Waaaat.jpg)
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Fairey Seal floatplane. Sold Latvia, then annexed by Russia.
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Ok. Great selections up there! :aok I'll get us going again.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10557427_10204284055571143_1697927269086503168_n.jpg)
Nobody had better say Saber or Fury on this one! If you do I'll be utterly disappointed!
It's a Saber AND a Fury. :D
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Fairey Seal floatplane. Sold Latvia, then annexed by Russia.
Correct! WTG!
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If I recall correctly, Wmaker's twice-removed busted Fairey Seal gave me a headache the last time I went looking for it too. :frown:
Here's something that looks familiar, but maybe it's not:
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-08-14-10-53-09_zpskarganer.png)
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Here's something that looks familiar, but maybe it's not:
B-24J-15-CO, Serial No. 42-73130.
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B-24J-15-CO, Serial No. 42-73130.
- oldman
Yep, B-17 nose grafted on....
(http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/images/Hb17_24_1.jpeg)
(http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/images/Hb17_24_n.jpeg)
(http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/images/Hb17_24_2.jpeg)
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Yep, B-17 nose grafted on....
(http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/images/Hb17_24_1.jpeg)
(http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/images/Hb17_24_n.jpeg)
(http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/images/Hb17_24_2.jpeg)
That actually makes the 24 look like a handsome airplane. Otherwise they are uglier than some Soviet birds.
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That actually makes the 24 look like a handsome airplane. Otherwise they are uglier than some Soviet birds.
That's a matter of opinion. IMO the H & J models, with their nose turrets, are the most impressive looking of all. That Frankenstein B-17 nose? Not so much. This looks like somebody just needed to burn up some of their IRAD budget, so they rubber stamped the project.
I'd really like to see a planform view of this thing to better see how they faired the nose into the fuselage.
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That's a matter of opinion. IMO the H & J models, with their nose turrets, are the most impressive looking of all. That Frankenstein B-17 nose? Not so much. This looks like somebody just needed to burn up some of their IRAD budget, so they rubber stamped the project.
I'd really like to see a planform view of this thing to better see how they faired the nose into the fuselage.
Whatever good hemp your smokin' you need to pass that dutchie my way.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10492013_10204284055851150_8780817005415602406_n.jpg)
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VG 70
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VG 70
Are you going to post one or should someone else?
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Are you going to post one or should someone else?
Go ahead if you have something.
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Ok... Try this one: :huh
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/huh2.jpg)
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Now that's a face only the designer could love.
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(http://tillertowardstrouble.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/anyone-bueller.jpg)
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VTOL test plane?
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Yes...
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(http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/34618/0x0/tucano.jpg)
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(http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/34618/0x0/tucano.jpg)
Super Tucano? (Don't know why that popped into my head...)
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Ok... Try this one: :huh
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/huh2.jpg)
OK since we've moved on and nobody got it: It's the Dupont Aerospace DP-1.
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To me the Embraer Tucano looks like a modern interpretation of the P-51. Especially the tail.
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Here's an interesting old bag. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think005.gif)
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/l/t1.0-9/10641297_10204581079756562_7977343001818639728_n.jpg?oh=092c54058f32e52c9f3994a3feaa226b&oe=547168CD)
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To me the Embraer Tucano looks like a modern interpretation of the P-51. Especially the tail.
Was I right? lol. I really am not sure...
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Some of these older aircraft are stating to look suspiciously familiar:
(http://v013o.popscreen.com/YVNjTVhIT0dYVjAx_o_hanna-barbera---dastardly-and-muttley-in-their-flying-.jpg)
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:lol
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Some of these older aircraft are stating to look suspiciously familiar:
(http://v013o.popscreen.com/YVNjTVhIT0dYVjAx_o_hanna-barbera---dastardly-and-muttley-in-their-flying-.jpg)
The guy in the yellow coat does nothing but shake nervously and complain about everything. :old:
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Was I right? lol. I really am not sure...
Seriously, lol, were they Super Tucanos?
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I don't think they're the "Super" variant, just the regular Tucano.
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I don't think they're the "Super" variant, just the regular Tucano.
Close enough for me to post the next plane?
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/Yomomma_zps7fe955f4.jpg) (http://s217.photobucket.com/user/Serene_One/media/Yomomma_zps7fe955f4.jpg.html)
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I don't mind. :)
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Close enough for me to post the next plane?
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/Yomomma_zps7fe955f4.jpg) (http://s217.photobucket.com/user/Serene_One/media/Yomomma_zps7fe955f4.jpg.html)
Looks like a CGI rendering of a Samba XXL to me.
Let's take a stab at this one again.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/l/t1.0-9/10641297_10204581079756562_7977343001818639728_n.jpg?oh=092c54058f32e52c9f3994a3feaa226b&oe=547168CD)
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Looks like a CGI rendering of a Samba XXL to me.
Let's take a stab at this one again.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/l/t1.0-9/10641297_10204581079756562_7977343001818639728_n.jpg?oh=092c54058f32e52c9f3994a3feaa226b&oe=547168CD)
Spot on! How did you know? I would never have recognized one if I didn't fly one myself.
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Spot on! How did you know? I would never have recognized one if I didn't fly one myself.
I've worked weekends part time at a general aviation airport for 8 years now. The Samba and me ....we've met. :old:
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This one is quite easy...and fruity :P
(http://s13.postimg.org/hb1tlde7r/78787444.jpg)
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This one is quite easy...and fruity :P
(http://s13.postimg.org/hb1tlde7r/78787444.jpg)
DINFIA IA 38
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Nah, THIS one is easy...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-08-26-09-57-32_zpswxjszwpt.png)
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Nah, THIS one is easy...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-08-26-09-57-32_zpswxjszwpt.png)
Ilyushin Il-102
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Minor hijack, Mrs. Shida wants to know what this one is (long story) and I don't know. Looks a bit like a North American F-86D-1 I thought, but the intake's the wrong shape and I don't understand the extra hole in the nosecone.
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/10650037_10203659811588646_3610419351571197334_n_zps8a09d932.jpg) (http://s1114.photobucket.com/user/rwrk2/media/10650037_10203659811588646_3610419351571197334_n_zps8a09d932.jpg.html)
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Minor hijack, Mrs. Shida wants to know what this one is
Fiat G91 I think
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Fiat G91 I think
Ha ha thanks. I knew this was the place to ask.
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Ok. So now for a third time. Let's have a stab at this ole crate.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/l/t1.0-9/10641297_10204581079756562_7977343001818639728_n.jpg?oh=092c54058f32e52c9f3994a3feaa226b&oe=547168CD)
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I know what it is, but I cheated by googling so I'm letting someone else get it. Hint: It's Dutch and begins with a "K".
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Kaasachtig!
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I know what it is, but I cheated by googling so I'm letting someone else get it. Hint: It's Dutch and begins with a "K".
Can't see the pic Blinder posted but I'd guess then its a Koolhoven company's product...F.K.-XX. :)
EDIT/Checked the pic with the quote function (small error in the linking). Know what it is but letting others to have a try./EDIT
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Ok. So now for a third time. Let's have a stab at this ole crate.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/l/t1.0-9/10641297_10204581079756562_7977343001818639728_n.jpg?oh=092c54058f32e52c9f3994a3feaa226b&oe=547168CD)
F.K.40.
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Should be a really easy one.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/Ack-Ack/youwontfindtheanswerlookingatthelinknicetry_zpsceaf76b2.jpg)
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Should be a really easy one.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/Ack-Ack/youwontfindtheanswerlookingatthelinknicetry_zpsceaf76b2.jpg)
Saab B 18
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How 'bout this?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74588540/twin.jpg)
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XA-38 Grizzly!
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Take a stab at this one! :D
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10460678_10204032614965285_2414334310108367082_n.jpg)
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Take a stab at this one! :D
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10460678_10204032614965285_2414334310108367082_n.jpg)
Handley Page 115
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This one was mentioned in a book I'm re-reading and sounded interesting enough to fit here
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q569/bryguyw/whatisthis_zps71b2df6b.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/bryguyw/media/whatisthis_zps71b2df6b.jpg.html)
Sorry for posting without guessing :salute
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This one was mentioned in a book I'm re-reading and sounded interesting enough to fit here
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q569/bryguyw/whatisthis_zps71b2df6b.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/bryguyw/media/whatisthis_zps71b2df6b.jpg.html)
Sorry for posting without guessing :salute
Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne
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What's most interesting about this thing is who designed it...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-09-03-10-56-23-1_zpsnhaadrjq.png)
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Ah... Kurt Tank's postwar affairs... :aok
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Ah... Kurt Tank's postwar affairs... :aok
Kinda makes you wonder why Argentina wasn't the first to reach the moon huh? ;)
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This one was mentioned in a book I'm re-reading and sounded interesting enough to fit here
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q569/bryguyw/whatisthis_zps71b2df6b.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/bryguyw/media/whatisthis_zps71b2df6b.jpg.html)
Sorry for posting without guessing :salute
A wind tunnel model of that was tested in the Ames 40x80' tunnel. It was a legend among the old-timers when I worked there. Why? It threw some blades that passed through the walls of the test section. Happily, no one was injured or killed.
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A wind tunnel model of that was tested in the Ames 40x80' tunnel. It was a legend among the old-timers when I worked there. Why? It threw some blades that passed through the walls of the test section. Happily, no one was injured or killed.
Just read about this. It wasn't a model, it was the #10 prototype. They screwed up the vehicle constraints and got a rotor oscillation that led to the rotor striking the tail boom. That must have been one Hell of a show! :uhoh You know the guys at Ames had to be absolutely thrilled with Lockheed over that.
When I was at General Dynamics we had an F-16 model that lost a wingtip AIM-9 during a transonic run at Calspan. Tore the tunnel up pretty bad downstream. I thought my butt was in a sling because I did the stress analysis and signed off on the drawing. Turned out the machinist had used the wrong size drill, so when they tapped the hole for the missile rail attachments, they had hardly any threads at all. Talk about relieved! :) They still watched us like hawks for the next three tunnel tests. :D
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Just read about this. It wasn't a model, it was the #10 prototype. They screwed up the vehicle constraints and got a rotor oscillation that led to the rotor striking the tail boom. That must have been one Hell of a show! :uhoh You know the guys at Ames had to be absolutely thrilled with Lockheed over that.
When I was at General Dynamics we had an F-16 model that lost a wingtip AIM-9 during a transonic run at Calspan. Tore the tunnel up pretty bad downstream. I thought my butt was in a sling because I did the stress analysis and signed off on the drawing. Turned out the machinist had used the wrong size drill, so when they tapped the hole for the missile rail attachments, they had hardly any threads at all. Talk about relieved! :) They still watched us like hawks for the next three tunnel tests. :D
What scale was this model F-16?
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What scale was this model F-16?
I honestly don't remember. It was probably 1980 or 81. Calspan's test section is only 8' x 8', so I'm guessing it was around 1/6 or so. If I recall correctly, it's a blowdown tunnel, because the startup loads were Hell on the models.
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Easy but pretty ;)
(http://s1.postimg.org/ov5vx5v4v/2152.jpg)
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HE-111
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(http://nsa10.casimages.com/img/2009/10/14/091014070937968889.jpg)
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Can't tell from the head-on view, but it's one of the LN.40 family, probably an LN.401
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Skua?
:salute
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The Ju 87 V1, powered by a Rolls-Royce Kestrel V12 cylinder liquid-cooled engine, and with a twin-tail
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Can't tell from the head-on view, but it's one of the LN.40 family, probably an LN.401
:aok
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Put something else up Milo. I got nuthin.
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(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/smitha_chris67/Kikka_Orange_Blossom_Kikka-10.jpg~original) (http://s279.photobucket.com/user/smitha_chris67/media/Kikka_Orange_Blossom_Kikka-10.jpg.html)
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J9Y
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And this?
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/whatsthiss_zpsf902843b.jpg)
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And this?
(Waves hand over head wildly.)
I know! I know! It's a sailplane!
- oldman
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Rohrbach Flugboat
You post the wierdest, most frustrating crap of anybody on here. :aok
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Rohrbach Flugboat
Since you know that, I'm sure you can post the exact type ;)
You post the wierdest, most frustrating crap of anybody on here. :aok
I take that as a complement! :D
<S>
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Since you know that, I'm sure you can post the exact type ;)
I take that as a complement! :D
<S>
That's the Ro. III. And yes, coming up with uber-annoying relics to stump this crowd is definitely a skill. :lol. :aok
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That's the Ro. III. And yes, coming up with uber-annoying relics to stump this crowd is definitely a skill. :lol. :aok
You mean the Ro. II?
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(Waves hand over head wildly.)
I know! I know! It's a sailplane!
- oldman
:lol
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Here's something a little different. Currently in development...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/5403744de71f53708c420937db4a52b5_zps5rctyw2c.jpeg)
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/4900007dd4c335bc323abba74985ee99_zpsnjgzahyg.jpeg)[/URL]
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Kind of reminds me of the Hughes H-1.
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I'd be hesitant to fly it with the prop blades taped together/on.
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Here's something a little different. Currently in development...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/5403744de71f53708c420937db4a52b5_zps5rctyw2c.jpeg)
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/4900007dd4c335bc323abba74985ee99_zpsnjgzahyg.jpeg)[/URL]
Wild Fire...future scratch-built Reno racer?
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Wild Fire...future scratch-built Reno racer?
You're getting warm Wmaker. ;) Behind that evil looking spinner is a Pratt R-4360. You might find the tail section oddly familiar too. :D
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Here's a clue... the guy behind the creation of this beast.
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-09-19-10-11-42-1_zpsx7aor4hj.png)
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Darryl Greenamyers Shockwave…tail from an F-86.
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Darryl Greenamyers Shockwave…tail from an F-86.
:aok
I really hope Darryl finishes this monster. Unfortunately, he's 78 now.
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-09-19-19-20-41_zpsbi7pfloz.png)
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Why do they invariably place the cockpit so far aft in racers?
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:aok
I really hope Darryl finishes this monster. Unfortunately, he's 78 now.
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-09-19-19-20-41_zpsbi7pfloz.png)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/ChuckYeager.jpeg)
Ewwww .... seventy-eight.
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Why do they invariably place the cockpit so far aft in racers?
Not sure. CG reasons maybe. Or possibly because of heat reasons. Then again, it may be something as simple as drag. Fair the canopy into the base of the vertical tail. Adds directional stability, which might then let you trim the vertical tail a bit.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/ChuckYeager.jpeg)
Ewwww .... seventy-eight.
Yeah, but Darryl does 78 with humility. That guy's 91, and from what I've read, his head still won't fit thru the hanger door.
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Why do they invariably place the cockpit so far aft in racers?
Generally smallest airframe that can wrap around the power plant, perhaps pilot aft due to rest of fuselage being filled with power system components.
Gonna suck trying to see around the nose on the ground or during approach but shouldn't be a big issue otherwise...except maybe in a spin, long arm from the CG could make egress, if needed, difficult.
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Might be pure cg.
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Generally smallest airframe that can wrap around the power plant, perhaps pilot aft due to rest of fuselage being filled with power system components.
Gonna suck trying to see around the nose on the ground or during approach but shouldn't be a big issue otherwise...except maybe in a spin, long arm from the CG could make egress, if needed, difficult.
At the altitudes these guys fly at, and with the tiny canopies and tight cockpits, I'm thinking egress is something that doesn't happen very often.
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At the altitudes these guys fly at, and with the tiny canopies and tight cockpits, I'm thinking egress is something that doesn't happen very often.
But at the speeds they fly they can quickly and easily zoom to a more than adequate altitude for bailout.
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Yeah, but Darryl does 78 with humility. That guy's 91, and from what I've read, his head still won't fit thru the hanger door.
Really? In my experience Mr Yeager was a great guy, fun to talk to and didn't seem at all an egomaniac,
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Really? In my experience Mr Yeager was a great guy, fun to talk to and didn't seem at all an egomaniac,
If anyone deserves an ego, I reckon General Chuck does. I've never had the privilege of meeting him,
so it's hard for me to gauge anyone else's assessment of his personality. Mine may have differed.
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Research the details of the NF-104 program, why it was canceled, and the opinions of the other test pilots at Edwards. Read how he destroyed an airplane none of his peers said he was qualified to fly. He didn't bother with checklists, refused to follow the flight profile, screwed up, and only got away with his unauthorized flight (and crash) because of who he was, and the powerful connections he had (Le May no less), destroying the plane and ending the program in the process. Frank Borman, who was intimately familiar with the NF-104, would provide a very different picture of Yeager than the one we're sold in the movies. He was quite put out when Yeager screwed up, destroyed the plane and ending the program, then had the nerve to blame the aircraft (the flight data recovered showed there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with the aircraft). And Borman isn't alone in his opinion.
It's tempting to assume that "The Right Stuff" is historically accurate. I loved the movie too, but Wally Shirra referred to it as "Animal House in Space", entertaining but factually bankrupt. The more I learn about Yeager, the more I have to agree. Great war hero? Absolutely. Arrogant, vindictive, in need of the spotlight, but totally out of his league with his contemporaries by 1963? Yeah, afraid so.
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Why do they invariably place the cockpit so far aft in racers?
This great video will answer most of your questions and entertain as well....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm8y2t9m87I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm8y2t9m87I)
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Cool! Thanks! :cheers:
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Great video Widewing, thanks. :aok
You could do an entire documentary on Pete Law. He's probably the single most valuable asset to ALL the guys who fly at Reno.
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Moving on...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140922_101131_zpsitvsjvg9.jpg)
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I spent 4 days working at a trade show alongside General Yeager in the same booth. He was humble and funny the whole time. Doesn't mean he's always that way and most folks that are driven and have accomplished big things have some ego. But, at least for those 4 days, he was the kind of guy you would invite to your backyard BBQ. He went out of his way to make others smile and not just when the public was around. He never brought up anything he accomplished unless someone prodded him to and when he did, he heaped praise on others involved with a gleam in his eye as he told the story.
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I spent 4 days working at a trade show alongside General Yeager in the same booth. He was humble and funny the whole time. Doesn't mean he's always that way and most folks that are driven and have accomplished big things have some ego. But, at least for those 4 days, he was the kind of guy you would invite to your backyard BBQ. He went out of his way to make others smile and not just when the public was around. He never brought up anything he accomplished unless someone prodded him to and when he did, he heaped praise on others involved with a gleam in his eye as he told the story.
What year was this Aspen? There's no disputing the man's charisma, or that, like most of us, he probably mellowed with age.
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It would have been mid 90's, probably 1995. He was a spokesperson/endorser for Bushnell optics and I was working in the Bushnell booth at a big hunting/outdoor show. I'm not doubting he may have been cocky or ego driven in his younger days, but he showed none of that during my time with him. He worked the booth longer than he was scheduled and helped out with set-up and tear down which was not expected of him.
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It would have been mid 90's, probably 1995. He was a spokesperson/endorser for Bushnell optics and I was working in the Bushnell booth at a big hunting/outdoor show. I'm not doubting he may have been cocky or ego driven in his younger days, but he showed none of that during my time with him. He worked the booth longer than he was scheduled and helped out with set-up and tear down which was not expected of him.
That IS surprising. I don't remember the Bushnell endorsement. I DO remember something with him doing ads involving batteries and something involving the F-20 around the same time.
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No idea if it was a long term deal or if it was just for that show. They were promoting their Eotech Holosight so maybe being similar to a fighter gun sight was the tie in.
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Ok, so back to the task at hand...
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140922_101131_zpsitvsjvg9.jpg)
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Gwinn Aircar....
(http://www.check-six.com/images/GwinnAirCar/GwinnAircar-1271.jpg)
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No doubt Widewing is already familiar with this, but you guys need to read this. I'm especially fond of the flap pedal. :D
(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/193711_PopularAviation_zpsccw3wlxg.jpg)
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Seen on another board (= I don't know what it is, any guesses?)
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/mhuxt/whut_zpsee5d439d.jpg) (http://s937.photobucket.com/user/mhuxt/media/whut_zpsee5d439d.jpg.html)
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Seen on another board (= I don't know what it is, any guesses?)
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/mhuxt/whut_zpsee5d439d.jpg) (http://s937.photobucket.com/user/mhuxt/media/whut_zpsee5d439d.jpg.html)
Miles M.65 Gemini.
Pretty plane IMO.
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Miles M.65 Gemini.
Pretty plane IMO.
Definitely a good looking plane. Kind of retro-cool.
So Wmaker, what else have you got in your big fat folder of frustrating flyers for us?
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Miles M.65 Gemini.
Pretty plane IMO.
Thanks Wmaker
:salute
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Haaazaaah!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10448227_10204284055051130_826093801358109366_n.jpg?oh=4ddc99547f512c915c62107acd0b6034&oe=54D09242&__gda__=1421804840_c07fde8705d867b40191c89140d7b818)
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Tu-91
Cool plane. :aok
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gU-3zsKpuXE/TouyYiY0R1I/AAAAAAAAArs/gwMlA7gXlVQ/s1600/AvroArrow1.jpg)
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Ummm... Avro Arrow? :x
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(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2010/05/air_rc-12n_guardrail_lg.jpg)
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A mail-plane.
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RC-12N
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I made an IBM parts delivery into a building at Moffet Field once near where one of those was parked. It had 12 guys with MP5 and M4 standing around it. They had a Humvee with more armed guards parked at the end of the runway where Highway 101 passes near. It probably had something to do with Onizuka and the Blue Cube. Those and variations were always coming and going from Moffet in the mid 90's.
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Yeah, that thing just screams SIGINT & ELINT.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/AD-1_ObliqueWing_60deg_19800701.jpg)
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NASA "Oblique Wing" AD-1 ?
How about this?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74588540/p35.jpg)
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J 22
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/AD-1_ObliqueWing_60deg_19800701.jpg)
If I remember right from a very long time ago, the plane was used to test different wing sweeps.
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If I remember right from a very long time ago, the plane was used to test different wing sweeps.
The big advantage over a conventional swing wing aircraft is that the CG doesn't change. You also don't run into wing synchronization issues. The wing box structure (where the wing attaches to the fuselage) can probably be made lighter as well.
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(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74588540/supermarine.jpg)
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Macchi MC72
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(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/huh3.jpg)
Should be easy enough...
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That would be Mr. Awesome. :)
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:aok
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What type of plane is this Amusement park ride "the John Denver Experience" modeled after?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ai1LctwIQ
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-10-30-16-11-29-1_zpsp69v9abu.png)
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Can't anybody guess that plane? Keep the thread alive! :rock
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(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b570/happyfluffycthulhu/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-10-30-16-11-29-1_zpsp69v9abu.png)
Interstate Aircraft Company TDR-1 drone
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Interstate Aircraft Company TDR-1 drone
So Moriarty, we meet again. :)
Tag, you're it!
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So Moriarty, we meet again. :)
:D
A very interesting aircraft:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/whattttssssthiiis_zps70b1d317.jpg)
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Ki-83
One gorgeous bird. :aok
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Ki-83
One gorgeous bird. :aok
WTG!
Indeed is. Looking at the geometry, that's about as aerodynamic a WWII-era twin gets. Very cool plane indeed.
Wouldn't it be amazing to have one restored at Smithsonian today?
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473 mph at 23k in post-war tests using US avgas... Pretty impressive!
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Japanese Tigercat!
Never heard of that one before. :aok
-C+
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Japanese Tigercat!
Was just thinking the same thing. Cool bird :cheers:
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I thought I'll resurrect this thread:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/whatsssthis_zpsf781e515.jpg)
Another very cool plane!
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Didn't king kong swat one of those out of the sky?
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I will take your comment of being "cool" as a hint:
Frederik 'Frits' Koolhoven
BAT F.K.24 Baboon
And if not, well, open cockpit planes really are "cool". :D
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heheh...nope. :)
But yes, open cockpit plane are generally really cool! :)
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Didn't king kong swat one of those out of the sky?
King Kong swatted American fighters of the early thirties. :)
Anyway, the aircraft is Czechoslovakian Avia Ba.122. One of the first purpose-built aerobatic aircraft in the world.
I can only imagine how much fun it would have been to fly one!
And it looks so cool in this sunburst scheme:
(http://www.migrantmodelpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/IMG_4611_800.jpg)
(pic of a scale model: http://www.migrantmodelpix.com/2013/03/29/avia/ (http://www.migrantmodelpix.com/2013/03/29/avia/))
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Czech Ba. 122
Damn it, I really need to read the posts! <facepalm>
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(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7301/9004651327_17a7fb368c_b.jpg)
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From an English speaking nation and archaic by any claustrophobic's standards. What do I win LOL
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Canberra. Probably a PR version.
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B-52, lower crewmember's station.