Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Zimme83 on April 29, 2015, 10:12:33 AM
Yep. They can do some pretty interesting stuffs with quantum technology if they makes it work. Quantum entaglement for ex. In theory u can transfer data instantly even if transmitter and reciever are light years appart.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: PR3D4TOR on April 29, 2015, 10:22:33 AM
Yes I had one of those aboard the Normandy SR2.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: oboe on April 29, 2015, 10:43:40 AM
Yep. They can do some pretty interesting stuffs with quantum technology if they makes it work. Quantum entaglement for ex. In theory u can transfer data instantly even if transmitter and reciever are light years appart.
Sounds like Star Trek's subspace radio communications?
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on April 29, 2015, 11:15:06 AM
It's really mind bending to think that information could travel above the speed of light. It means there's something fundamental about the structure of the universe that we don't understand yet.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Someguy63 on April 29, 2015, 11:18:03 AM
It's really mind bending to think that information could travel above the speed of light. It means there's something fundamental about the structure of the universe that we don't understand yet.
There is so much to understand. I'd personally like to learn as much as I can in a lifetime.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Swoop on April 29, 2015, 01:20:47 PM
You will. By definition.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Coalcat1 on April 29, 2015, 02:02:22 PM
The last record for a quantum computation was 4 X 4= 16 last I checked. This is a very interesting technology to look into, and very promising for the future.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Kruel on April 29, 2015, 02:25:24 PM
The last record for a quantum computation was 4 X 4= 16 last I checked. This is a very interesting technology to look into, and very promising for the future.
You looked a very long time ago...theses things are taking Turing tests..
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Sabre on April 29, 2015, 03:16:11 PM
Yep. They can do some pretty interesting stuffs with quantum technology if they makes it work. Quantum entaglement for ex. In theory u can transfer data instantly even if transmitter and reciever are light years appart.
Haven't you heard? There's already something that travels faster than the speed of light. "Bad news". :P
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Coalcat1 on April 29, 2015, 03:34:59 PM
Haven't you heard? There's already something that travels faster than the speed of light. "Bad news". :P
There is something that absolutely does travel faster than the speed of light. Not a joke like "bad news". Can you tell me what it is that we know travels faster than the speed of light? (There could be other things too that we do not know about but this one we do)
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Coalcat1 on April 29, 2015, 05:20:44 PM
There is something that absolutely does travel faster than the speed of light. Not a joke like "bad news". Can you tell me what it is that we know travels faster than the speed of light? (There could be other things too that we do not know about but this one we do)
The Universe after the Big Bang :devil
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Zoney on April 29, 2015, 05:30:26 PM
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Zimme83 on April 29, 2015, 05:55:56 PM
Nothing can travel trough space faster than the speed of light. But it doesnt mean that u cannot mess with the space (spacetime) itself. And when it come to quantum entanglement nothing travels trough space between the entangled particles so no law is broken even if they affect each other instantly over great distances.
Edit: Had to refresh my memory on the subject and it seems that its not possible to transfer information trough entanglement faster than speed of light.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Brooke on April 29, 2015, 06:10:31 PM
I always found quantum mechanics very interesting because it is so different from normal human experience.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Zimme83 on April 29, 2015, 06:16:34 PM
+1. Its really fun and sometimes mind blowing. If i had the time i would go back to the university and read some theoretical physics.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Zimme83 on April 29, 2015, 06:23:28 PM
Best thing with quantum computers is that they will be able to transfer data so fast that we no longer will have to complain about the AH collision model :banana:
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Meatwad on April 29, 2015, 09:26:06 PM
It will be so fast both aircraft will get the collision message before they lifted off their runways
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Dragon Tamer on April 29, 2015, 09:51:26 PM
There is something that absolutely does travel faster than the speed of light. Not a joke like "bad news". Can you tell me what it is that we know travels faster than the speed of light? (There could be other things too that we do not know about but this one we do)
Information can also travel faster than the speed of light, though it has never been observed to do so.
Ignore all of that, I'm an idiot.
Information is something that I still don't fully understand. After looking it up, information can't travel faster than light. Anything other than information can.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: bozon on April 30, 2015, 12:40:15 AM
Not really. The leading theory is that the universe experienced a short period of inflation that stretched its size faster than the speed of light. However, nothing traveled anywhere since it was space itself that was stretched.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Zimme83 on April 30, 2015, 04:27:38 AM
Not really. The leading theory is that the universe experienced a short period of inflation that stretched its size faster than the speed of light. However, nothing traveled anywhere since it was space itself that was stretched.
Excatly. The space itself has no limitation. It can expand faster than the speed of light and u can also bend or shrink it. So u can reach places milions of lightyears away much faster by shrinking the spacetime between u and your destination.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: MrKrabs on April 30, 2015, 07:22:33 AM
Information can also travel faster than the speed of light, though it has never been observed to do so.
Ignore all of that, I'm an idiot.
Information is something that I still don't fully understand. After looking it up, information can't travel faster than light. Anything other than information can.
Structured information cannot travel faster
However negligable information can... It's the question of can this negligable information be manipulated to form a structured code. "Like 1's and 0's"
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on April 30, 2015, 09:12:25 AM
The answer is: nothing moves faster than speed of light except stupidity. That's why only really simple information can be transferred. :banana:
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: oldskool65 on April 30, 2015, 11:31:04 AM
Excatly. The space itself has no limitation. It can expand faster than the speed of light and u can also bend or shrink it. So u can reach places milions of lightyears away much faster by shrinking the spacetime between u and your destination.
It happens naturally. If you travel from here to Alpha Centaury at 0.87 of the speed of light (Lorentz factor 2), you will find that from your point of view the distance you traveled was only half the distance you expected, and you made it there in half the time. However, the people waiting for you will argue that it actually took you the full length of time and it is simply your clock that runs too slow - or at least this is how it looked to them... For a particle traveling at the speed of light, the universe has zero length and it reaches its destination the moment it left on its way.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Zimme83 on April 30, 2015, 01:00:10 PM
True but for an observer it take a lot of time and thats the problem if we want to go somewere and come back we cannot rely on that because even dough the crew on the space ship can do it the people on earth might not. But u can go to Apha centauri in a matters of days by shrinking the distance - compress the space in front of u and expand it behind u. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: bustr on April 30, 2015, 02:58:21 PM
Next thing you know Mr. Scott will realize you don't beam someone somewhere, you bring somewhere to someone and reconstruct him back from the digital copy buffer there.
The opposite of hitting a big bullet with a smaller bullet while riding a horse. So it will be a matter of scale whether you do it to a giant tin can between star systems or, one person first packaged into a digital copy buffer between buildings. I suspect it will be more like stepping through a door. Not sure you can exactly copy that unique spark called your consciousness.
In the end it will be due to learning to compress and expand space between star systems.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: PR3D4TOR on April 30, 2015, 03:09:08 PM
The Star Trek transporter is not a digital anything. It's a matter-energy conversion process. Your matter is converted into pure energy, beamed across space and converted back into matter at the other end. The buffers are energy buffers or capacitors if you will that store your energy while you're being rematerialized, not digital information buffers.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Vulcan on April 30, 2015, 04:33:33 PM
The Star Trek transporter is not a digital anything. It's a matter-energy conversion process. Your matter is converted into pure energy, beamed across space and converted back into matter at the other end. The buffers are energy buffers or capacitors if you will that store your energy while you're being rematerialized, not digital information buffers.
You do realize all that stuff isn't real, and William Shatner was a bad actor?
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: PR3D4TOR on April 30, 2015, 05:07:43 PM
IS a bad actor (who won an Emmy...) The Shat is not dead yet! :old:
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Brooke on May 01, 2015, 01:29:49 AM
The Star Trek transporter is not a digital anything. It's a matter-energy conversion process. Your matter is converted into pure energy, beamed across space and converted back into matter at the other end. The buffers are energy buffers or capacitors if you will that store your energy while you're being rematerialized, not digital information buffers.
What if it uses some unknown quantum tech since quantum particles can basically be anywhere at a random time, they learned to manipulate them so that the body is moved in a quantum process. :)
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on May 01, 2015, 04:42:26 AM
You do realize all that stuff isn't real, and William Shatner was a bad actor?
You do realize that 80% of 'future stuff' in Star Trek is now either a daily reality or proven scientifically to be possible in the near future? :)
Some scientists say that Star Trek was their inspiration for getting into research and they seek to create the technology in it. Geostational satellites were too once just a comment in a science fiction book until scientists researched it and figured that the authors idea would indeed work.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: bustr on May 01, 2015, 06:01:06 AM
Predator,
Beaming will have light speed limitations along with probably loosing your unique spark in the process. But, moving space around you, then dropping you out a portal will be a mini version of doing it to a space ship getting it to Alpha Centari in 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 01, 2015, 02:48:16 PM
Quantum technology will have some awesome practical future applications beyond computing. Quantum locking of magnetic fields for example.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 01, 2015, 02:52:36 PM
Beaming will have light speed limitations along with probably loosing your unique spark in the process. But, moving space around you, then dropping you out a portal will be a mini version of doing it to a space ship getting it to Alpha Centari in 15 minutes.
Sure thing. The energy requirements though... We'd better start harvesting galaxies soon.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Vulcan on May 03, 2015, 12:27:43 AM
FTL Warp drive... Nope Teleportation system... Nope Impulse Drive... Nope Phasers... Nope Communicators that work on interplanetary distances... Nope Portable Medical Scanners... Nope Portable Science Scanners... Nope Orion Slave Girls... Nope
Yes. No/arguable. Yes. No. Yes/arguable. Yes. Yes. I wish.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on May 03, 2015, 04:31:29 AM
FTL Warp drive... Theoretically possible according to Stephen Hawkings Teleportation system... Theoretically possible, electrons have been successfully teleported already Impulse Drive... The University of Alabama in Huntsville's Aerophysics Research Center, NASA, Boeing, and Oak Ridge National Laboratory are collaborating on a project to produce nuclear fusion impulse rocket engines Phasers... Electro lasers are being researched by the MIT and US Army Communicators that work on interplanetary distances... Proven possible through quantum pairing Portable Medical Scanners... Already produced (Scanadu) Portable Science Scanners... Primitive variations already produced Orion Slave Girls... This is the only thing not possible or known, sadly.
You are really behind your times lol.
Just in the news: http://www.cnet.com/news/nasa-tests-physics-defying-method-of-space-travel-em-drive/
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 03, 2015, 10:19:41 AM
NASA is building an experimental warp drive right now, and their "impulse drive", i.e. a reactionless drive has already been built and it's working!
FTL Warp drive... Theoretically possible according to Stephen Hawkings Teleportation system... Theoretically possible, electrons have been successfully teleported already Impulse Drive... The University of Alabama in Huntsville's Aerophysics Research Center, NASA, Boeing, and Oak Ridge National Laboratory are collaborating on a project to produce nuclear fusion impulse rocket engines Phasers... Electro lasers are being researched by the MIT and US Army Communicators that work on interplanetary distances... Proven possible through quantum pairing Portable Medical Scanners... Already produced (Scanadu) Portable Science Scanners... Primitive variations already produced Orion Slave Girls... This is the only thing not possible or known, sadly.
You are really behind your times lol.
Just in the news: http://www.cnet.com/news/nasa-tests-physics-defying-method-of-space-travel-em-drive/
I would say your statement is still wrong. Even if the math suggest that its theoretically possible it doesn't mean it close to happen. Some of those things requires dark matter, that we don't have any evidence that it really exist, only the math that suggest that there must be some sort of matter and energy in the universe that we cant see.
"near future" is a false statement, that is maximum 25 years from now and we will not see teleports, warp drive etc within that time frame.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on May 03, 2015, 10:30:54 AM
I would say your statement is still wrong. Even if the math suggest that its theoretically possible it doesn't mean it close to happen. Some of those things requires dark matter, that we don't have any evidence that it really exist, only the math that suggest that there must be some sort of matter and energy in the universe that we cant see.
"near future" is a false statement, that is maximum 25 years from now and we will not see teleports, warp drive etc within that time frame.
Near future is 100% accurate since many of the devices in Star Trek already exist. I did not say all, I said some. Reading comprehension please!
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Zimme83 on May 03, 2015, 10:34:29 AM
U said 80% and that is wrong. And having an electron teleported doesnt mean that we are nowere near doing it with humans. (For example)
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 03, 2015, 10:45:35 AM
So I guess teleportation is part of the remaining 20% then.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on May 03, 2015, 11:05:46 AM
I said 80% is either done or proven possible. So what in your opinion is wrong in that statement?
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You do realize that 80% of 'future stuff' in Star Trek is now either a daily reality or proven scientifically to be possible in the near future?
That statement is wrong. Cut out "in the near future" and it become more right.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 03, 2015, 11:18:43 AM
Other stuff:
Replicator - 3D Printers PADD - iPad Virtual Display Device - Google Glass Medical Tricorder - Scanadu Scout Communicator - Cellphone Wrist comm - Wrist phone Turbolift - ThyssenKrupp MULTI elevator Doors that open by themselves - Everywhere now Computer discs - We have all sorts of portable data storage media LCARS panel - Touch screen Telepresence - Video conference/web cam Hypospray - Jet Injector Gun/Ped-O-Jet Transparent Aluminum - ALON armor Universal translator - Voice recognition and translation software Geordi's VISOR - Bionic eyes Tractor beam - MIT's tractor beam Uhura's earpiece - Bluetooth headset Voice activation - Siri Dr. McCoy's medical diagnostic bed - CAT-scan/MRI and all kinds of bedside monitoring equipment
And probably a whole lot of other stuff.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on May 03, 2015, 11:24:42 AM
That statement is wrong. Cut out "in the near future" and it become more right.
Why? Warp drive and EmDrive technology could be a reality in the near future. That doesn't mean we'll launch the Enterprise in that time frame, but perhaps a tiny test probe that will achieve warp factor 0.000000000000000000000001 just to prove it can be done. We'd need matter-antimatter reactors or another really powerful source of energy to power a practical FTL capable drive. The "impulse drive"/EmDrive could be used on spacecraft and space stations in the near future.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Vulcan on May 05, 2015, 10:08:20 PM
Ahhhahahhaah time to stop arguing when someone claims we've got FTL drives.
Aahahahhaha time to stop arguing when someone clearly doesn't read the science news.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: alskahawk on May 06, 2015, 05:26:06 AM
Lot of agencies, groups and governments are trying to make this work. Who ever gets it working will have a definite edge in life as we know it. War, economics and everyday life. I think it is a question of when they will get it working not if.
If you look at a lot of other advancements we have seen in our life time we are getting closer to Star Trek all the time. Our phones are beyond what a lot of us thought we would see in 1969. Nasa just tested a near warp drive engine and proved the theory. (see Nasa EM drive) Robotics. 20 years from now robotics will be beyond the manufacturing sector and into the home.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: guncrasher on May 06, 2015, 10:11:12 AM
only problem with that theory is how did the universe all got together in one big ball? and where did all that matter came from?
semp
A very large and hairy cat in deep interstellar space coughed up a hairball after quite a bit of hacking. That hairball since then has expanded and turned into now what we see as what is all around us :D
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 06, 2015, 06:55:40 PM
Matter is just energy tied up by itself like a knot, so it's all energy. Undo the knot the energy is released and boom, we make Hiroshima glow in the dark.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Zimme83 on May 06, 2015, 09:47:44 PM
only problem with that theory is how did the universe all got together in one big ball? and where did all that matter came from?
semp
Not a big ball. A small ball, the diameter of the "ball" was 0. The basic of the Big bang theory is: Universum is expanding and going towards more and more disorder (entropy). It mean that if u go back in time the process will go backwards until u reach a point were the entropy (and space) is 0. At that point all energy in the universe is concentrated in this point of singularity. Since u cannot go further back than that its pointless to talk about before big bang. since nothing happen before that time doesnt exist before big bang.
Worth noting is that the theory is not explaining the entire process.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: guncrasher on May 07, 2015, 12:39:20 AM
Not a big ball. A small ball, the diameter of the "ball" was 0. The basic of the Big bang theory is: Universum is expanding and going towards more and more disorder (entropy). It mean that if u go back in time the process will go backwards until u reach a point were the entropy (and space) is 0. At that point all energy in the universe is concentrated in this point of singularity. Since u cannot go further back than that its pointless to talk about before big bang. since nothing happen before that time doesnt exist before big bang.
Worth noting is that the theory is not explaining the entire process.
sorry but I get drug tested at work at least once a month. so I cannot understand your explanation. :eek: :eek: :eek:
semp
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on May 07, 2015, 01:31:35 AM
I believe that each black hole in our universe is a white hole which creates another universe in another dimension. So the creation of a black hole is the 'big bang' that creates new universes on some other dimension. The event horizon could be a transition to a separate dimension we can't see and the matter sucked into the black hole is moving to the other dimension. This would explain how matter comes out of singularity that pops open all of the sudden.
Note that this is my personal belief and is not based on any existing theorem.
Title: Re: Quantum Computer
Post by: Zimme83 on May 07, 2015, 04:20:15 AM
I believe that each black hole in our universe is a white hole which creates another universe in another dimension. So the creation of a black hole is the 'big bang' that creates new universes on some other dimension. The event horizon could be a transition to a separate dimension we can't see and the matter sucked into the black hole is moving to the other dimension. This would explain how matter comes out of singularity that pops open all of the sudden.
Note that this is my personal belief and is not based on any existing theorem.