What race are the French?

[Frogm4n]

french are decendents of the Franks. A germanic people that conquered gaul around 300-400 ad.

[MJHerman]

Originally posted by SLO
half my squad is Anglo-Canadian.....I think I would know MUCH better then you what they feel or think about us.

Hey SLO, what Regiment?

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Habu
They refused to enlist. You can justify the actions any way you like but in two world wars the French Canadians did not enlist.

Gosh I wonder how my grandfather got over there.  




Your sweeping generalisations or BS.  You attack the French Quebecers as cowards with no understanding of the polictical reasons why the did not want to join and why they were against the unnessary act of conscription, the MacKenzie-King promised on a couple of occasions not to inact.  I mean, wtf?


Hortlund you had a chance to cop to a simple oversight, instead you stumbled through some sad rationals, like the following.

"personally I dont think everyone else in the world knows what kind of criteria you guys have for labelling someone franco-canadian or anglo-canadian."


Well gosh, instead of shooting of your mouth about something you admit you don't know (like the whole subject of French-Canadians and Canada), maybe you should have just asked.  

There goes that credibility thing again.  

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Gosh I wonder how my grandfather got over there.  

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And again you seem utterly unable to understand what we are discussing here.

Your sweeping generalisations or BS.  You attack the French Quebecers as cowards with no understanding of the polictical reasons why the did not want to join and why they were against the unnessary act of conscription, the MacKenzie-King promised on a couple of occasions not to inact.  I mean, wtf?

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Oh so now the conscription act was unnecessary? Why was it unnecessary?

There goes that credibility thing again.  

Yeah, again you go off on some credibility tangent. But for that to work, you would first have to pretend that before this thread, I had credibility in your eyes. A quick glance at our posting history should show rather nicely that you dont exactly take my words for gospel on any subject.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
french are decendents of the Franks. A germanic people that conquered gaul around 300-400 ad.

I should have scored better in my history courses if it was so simple

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by AKIron
What race are the French exactly? Hmmmmm.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&ncid=762&e=3&u=/nm/20040213/en_nm/leisure_canada_conan_dc

One could equally ask what race are the Americans......

[straffo]

Shaden the real question is : do race exist among human ?

The definition I know is : a race subset of
A species groups the potentially inter-reproducible individuals.

So as I would have written in French :
"Une espèce groupe les individus potentiellement inter-reproductibles."

So far race is more a taxonomy shortcut used badly.


PS :
I think that Taxonomy is the proper translation of "taxonomie" and systematic the translation of "systematique"...

If not I've done yet another badly translated post

PPS : it's can pretty wide discution leading to pretty harsh comment see : Racialism , eugenism ...

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Hortlund
And again you seem utterly unable to understand what we are discussing here.

Of course I do, I'm not the one that seems utterly unable to stop using sweeping generalisations.

Oh so now the conscription act was unnecessary? Why was it unnecessary?

In a word, yes.  It was estimated that 15,000 reinforcements were needed.  But there were 30,000 soldiers readily available by remustering soldiers in support services.  And no that wouldn't have caused a problem with support as, the Canadian military was support heavy.  The Canadian military had %13.6 percent of it's soldiers assigned to staff posistions, were the US military had %4.

Then why did Prime Minister MacKenzie-King inact it?  Like  MJHerman state, politics.  MacKenzie-King's Liberals were losing approval ratings in spades, as the country turned to the right.  It was a way to pick up votes from the right and also pick up votes from all the soldiers serving already, at the cost of Quebec votes that he probably wasn't going to get anyway.

Part of the reason that MacKensie-King got elected in 1942 in the first place was on an promise that he would limit Canada's participation in the war and not consript.


A large part of the reason that French-Canadians didn't sign up is because the military was pighead and wouldn't start up more French units!

[Dowding]

I just find it amusing Hortlund, that you rant about the chicken**** French or French-Canadians, but then can rationalise away Sweden's collusion.

Glass houses and stones are never a good combination.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Dowding
I just find it amusing Hortlund, that you rant about the chicken**** French or French-Canadians, but then can rationalise away Sweden's collusion.

Rationalise away? FFS read the damn post. I've said two times already that Sweden was more allied with Germany than anything else. This because we shared a common enemy. The desicion to side with Germany was a desicion of choise.

Also, please quote the post by me where I ranted about "chicken**** canadians" or frenchies.

[SLO]

Originally posted by GScholz
That was not nice SLO.

sorry GScholz:(

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by GScholz
I'm from Norge!

As far north as it is possible to be...

Norway's Crown Prince Haakon placed Portugal on the Mediterranean in a welcome speech for the country's president.

The prince was welcoming president Jorge Sampaio and his wife Maria José Ritta when he made the mistake, reports the Aftenposten quoting the VG newspaper.

He said: "Norway and Portugal are on their own edge of Europe. You are placed on the Mediterranean's warm beaches, we are as far north as it is possible to be."

The speech was posted on the internet and also mis-spelt the name of Portugal's football legend Eusebio.

The Norwegian palace's information section apologised for the mistake, saying the meaning was clearly that Portugal lies far to the south, at the mouth of the Mediterranean. 2004/04/02

Glad to see that shortcoming in geographical knowledge is not just an American phenomenon.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by AVRO1
Thrawn, The election was in 40 and the referendum in 42.
These two sometimes get mixed up.

My apologies Hortlund and AVRO1.  I had no desire to mislead anyone.

But it kind of emphises my point, an election was just around the corner.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Sikboy
Le Mans.  

Le Mans will be April 3rd and 4th this year, I can't wait. I hope the TVR guys make a good show of it!

-Sik

[AKIron]

Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
One could equally ask what race are the Americans......

Bingo.

To slur americans is not racist but anti-american, really the point of my question.



To call someone a racist based on their ridicule of a culture is a dishonest (or maybe just feeble) attempt to debase and discredit someone's entire character. This sort of attack does not cause the recipient to become introspective or feel guilt (since it was dishonest) but rather only more animosity. If you're going to solve these sorts of problems you must deal with them honestly. Trying to manipulate through guilt will only bite you in the bellybutton in the end. Just my opinion.