putting steel on target

[Saintaw]

Ok, I've had it... you're all safe.
I realised that I can fly the bird alright (when I don't do stipid things and loose all my E for that low slow target   ), but I can't seem to hit s**t... (I miss 90% of my shots and usualy never open up before 300yds...).

Be it with .50's and 20mm or 30mm... My convergence depends of the gun type 400 for Hispano or .50 and 275 for anything else in Wings (300 for nose MG's in the 109's).

I just "can't hit a cow in a barrel"... *sigh*

I also tried a Zillion of different gunsights, not to avail..
any golden tips on that one ?


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[This message has been edited by Saintaw (edited 12-01-2000).]

[BaneX]

Same ole saw still couldn't hit the broadside of my 51   You're doin the right thing by not firing till about 300 or so though you want to start firing just before you reach your convergence distance and fire through it.

Personally I use a very simple site. It has a single pixel in the center so I can see where my rounds are going and adjust. I believe it was Wardog or Voss who told me about it. Can't remember,but it was one of the original 357th members.

Also, you might try and maneuver so you're not firing at a target under your nose.

Not much help there but maybe it'll do something for you.. Feel free to get me in the TA and use me for target practice!!

S! Saw


Bane
13th TAS

[StSanta]

Saw, try going very fast. Helps a lot, because enemy won't be able to move as much and you'll require less lead. Of course he can break turn from you.

If you go fast, up the convergence setting to 50-75 yards more than you usually have - the bullets will have travelled more than y350 (if you're 350 behind the enemy when you fire) due to his relative speed.

Also, go only for one sort of gun - don't jump between Hisps and lw 20mm's. Jumping from LW to hisps isn't bad, since hisps are ez mode gunnery, but the other way around leads to (pun unintended) one using too little lead.

My advice; high closure speed, firing from close range  .


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30mmDeathDIEDIEDIE(bishRookQueue.removeFront());
System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
}

[Saintaw]

Nonono, what I meant was that I can't even hit a straight flying target flying 250yds away   LOL !

I think it's the "head bobbing" I shall try to blame this time...just to hide that I am a bad shot ...   (Ask RAM).
<gloating mode on>
It's REALY annoying when I know the 109 in front of me is Hblair(grrrrrr   ) or one O' those "flying pigs", then you have one of those "one chance in a Zillion" to hit him, 'cause he's right on your nose...bang bang bang... Missed ! :/

so, as I said before, you're safe  

<gloating mode off>

I'd take that TA offer gladly   (Euro friendly times ?).

Saw
(ps, look for MASS   )

[Saintaw]

Santa, yup, but:

while ($speed='fast')
    {
     blackout($saw);
     miss($target);
     auger($saw);
       if ($target='spitfire')
          {
           $target .='go under nose';
           loose_tgt($saw)
           }
     exit;
     }


 

[Rocket]

Saw I feel your pain bro!
I missed a spitty at 150yds yesterday if you remember from RW  
Here is what I am trying.  I notice that I am getting a lot of bounce from the plane when trying to fine tune the shot.  I have been trying to adjust my stick settings to smooth things out.  My old stick I had set perfect and didn't miss near as often.  Alot of times poor aim can be contributed to an out of whack stick. Try offline at the drones and see if you are getting too much input on a steady target.
This may help you narrow down to you just plain blowing the shot or settings causing you to miss.

S!
Rocket

[ygsmilo]

Turn off your tracers, it makes you focus more on where you are aiming instead of watching your shot.

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Milo
3./JG2
"Horrido"

[Ripsnort]

Wait for them to fix the dispersion, coming in V1.05  

Or, fly a Goon for us next time we're all up! Hehehehehe!

[flakbait]

I'm working on a sight just for the gunnery-challenged. It's based off the standard A-26 gunsight, and is beyond simple. When I get it done I'll post it here.

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[flakbait]

Both of these sights are based on the standard gunsight in the A-26 Invader. Zeno's has a film of the A-26, and it shows the gunsight. The first sight is a rough duplication of that sight, while the other one is a variation. Hit the image to download the BMP file.






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[Saintaw]

gunnery-challenged

ROFLOL !

Thank you  

Saw

[Jekyll]

A couple of things that might help.

1.  As basic as it sounds, are you SURE your rounds are going through the centre dot of your gunsight?  You may have inadvertently reset your forward view position, only to find that your eyes are no longer aligned correctly with the gunsight.

2.  Don't use a complicated gunsight.  Whenever I am having gunnery problems, I revert to a gunsight without a centre dot.  I generally use a K-14 ring sight, and find that without the centre dot I'm concentrating more on getting a good sight picture than simply trying to maneuver the 'death dot' onto the target.

Hope this helps.

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http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/phoenix
Aces High Training Corps

[flakbait]

The standard A-26 gunsight actually covers the entire dispersion area on a Yak. Not sure about the 109, but on the Yak every round will be within that ring. I tested it in the TA a few minutes ago and found both sights to be dead on. What you put in the center of that ring you WILL hit. The second sight is good for the P-47, since at short range the rounds are going through the middle. At longer ranges, just use the bottom of the ring. I was hitting several targets dead on by aiming a little high, then bringing the nose down as the range got shorter.

I'll do some testing to figure out which planes those sights fit best. So far both P-47s and the Yak work perfectly. With some tweaks, it could be used for any plane.

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[eskimo]

Trim your plane before firing.

eskimo

[eskimo]

Joystick maybe could use a calibration.
Deadband and dampening adjustments can make a big difference as well.

eskimo