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« Reply #105 on: January 01, 2005, 12:08:15 AM »
I wanna be an animal lawyer...I hear it's that latest craze.

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« Reply #106 on: January 01, 2005, 12:09:37 AM »
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I'm not as gifted in animal law as your are.



No you just refuse to have an open mind therefore it will be very hard for you to ever learn anything .
You dont have to agree with me at all but to be open to posibilty that there may be another truth but your own is a good trait to have.

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« Reply #107 on: January 01, 2005, 12:10:34 AM »
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I wanna be an animal lawyer...I hear it's that latest craze.


I think at best you should only shoot for Dog catcher.

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« Reply #108 on: January 01, 2005, 12:11:48 AM »
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No you just refuse to have an open mind therefore it will be very hard for you to ever learn anything .


I have an open mind. Please tell me what rights animals have.

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« Reply #109 on: January 01, 2005, 12:12:25 AM »
I win.

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« Reply #110 on: January 01, 2005, 12:13:13 AM »
Nuke - just go back to the BBS post you made before, and look at the buttons in the upper right. You'll see "chat". Hit that.

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« Reply #111 on: January 01, 2005, 12:25:42 AM »
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Nuke - just go back to the BBS post you made before, and look at the buttons in the upper right. You'll see "chat". Hit that.


sorry....I'm dumb Nash. Can you give me a another clue or a link?

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« Reply #112 on: January 01, 2005, 12:33:31 AM »
You know when you just made that post to the checksix post that Airhead made? Go back there, and then look upper right.

Uhm... mebbe its a registration thing? Did you register? Mebbe that's it.

Get there quick... it's a huge fricken New Years online internet party. People are going ape5hit. It's wild and I think I hear the police.

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« Reply #113 on: January 01, 2005, 12:46:42 AM »
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wombatt, explain what rights animals have. It should be easy for you.


if they have no rights, how come there are so many damn laws about when and how we can kill em?

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« Reply #114 on: January 01, 2005, 12:58:40 AM »
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There is a difference between swatting and killing a fly, or pulling the wings off of the same fly and slowly killing it with the sun's rays magnified thru a glass.

How you treat the animal makes a difference.


Silly analogy

BTW I dont care if people tear off the wings of flies and/or slowly kill them with a magnifying glass either. or ants or beetles or bees,wasps hornets, hellgrammites, or those other nasty little bugs with pincers on their butts.

And who among us hasnt captured a fly  re enacted the final scene from the original " The fly movie" by dropping it in a spiders web and started saying "hellp meee hellp meeee pleaaase helllp meee"

They are bugs. torture em all you want for all I care.

As for animals, to sit and for no reason torture them just for fun.
thats wrong.
But if your going to be doing something thats going to make the meat more tender and taste better and are doing it specifically for that reason.

Have at it.

And like I said in my post above.
Arent a whole lot of people NOT eating meat or buying shoes or coats make from animals.
Isnt any big secret how these animals are treated.

Now if you were to tell me doing these things made the meat more expencive I might object
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« Reply #115 on: January 01, 2005, 01:20:30 AM »
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Silly analogy

They are bugs. torture em all you want for all I care.

As for animals, ...


Bugs are animals.  They certainly ain't vegetable or mineral...

The point is that how one treats an animal makes a differance.

White veal is raised to be anemic, while red veal has a better iron rich diet.  Both are young beef, but production of the white veal meat requires that the animal be treated in a manner that is not altogether altruistic.  

Red veal tastes just as good and the market force that requires the white coloration is more fashion and ignorance than reality.  

When we use fashion to decide how we treat resources we end up destroying the beaver, sea otter, etc.   I believe we should think more deeply than Paris Hilton in our choices.
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« Reply #116 on: January 01, 2005, 01:48:38 AM »
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You know when you just made that post to the checksix post that Airhead made? Go back there, and then look upper right.

Uhm... mebbe its a registration thing? Did you register? Mebbe that's it.

Get there quick... it's a huge fricken New Years online internet party. People are going ape5hit. It's wild and I think I hear the police.


If he is logged on, it will appear as an  option on the top menu.  If he isnt signed on/logged on, its not displayed.

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« Reply #117 on: January 01, 2005, 09:29:05 AM »
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And neither did blacks or women until we admitted how wrong we where being.


Does this mean the bear on the bus doesn't have to give up his seat to me?

I think what Nuke is saying is that animals only have the rights that WE decide to give them.I don't think you'll see animals at a protest holding signs up for their right to vote.

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« Reply #118 on: January 01, 2005, 09:52:48 AM »
both humans and animals have the same rights in one sense... it is the rights we give them.   The difference is that animals are no capable of voicing or understanding any rights we give em.    The rights we give them have no meaning to them.

Peta has a right to advocate less cruelty to animals... there is precidence... the torturing of animals for no reason  has allways been taboo...  lately... we have gotten pets and given them "rights"   these pets do not understand or care about these rights but.... everyonme here would be outraged by a person mutilating his black labs for instance for the fun of it.   We have no problem sending that same dog into a situation thjat is life threatening tho.

veal can be made a number of ways and it depends on the outrage or not of humans how it is made or not made.   animals are used for research to save humans or just to test makep or the toxicity of a product... some of this testing is very cruel.   If it helps humans then it is worth it.

The real issue here is.... Are animals and humans equal?   Should they both be held to the same rights?   Of course not.   The rights humans have given each other are far beyond any animal understanding or ability to comply... they will continue to eat and kill and torture each other and us.    

So.... we give them a lower set of "rights" based on what is best for us.    preserving them is best for us... eating and wearing them is best for us.   research using them is best for us.   unnecessary cruelty to them is not really needed.   It is distasteful for many of us so.... not torturing animals is really a part of human rights... the right to not be subjected to such behavior.

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« Reply #119 on: January 01, 2005, 10:10:18 AM »
Well said Laz.

My whole point: when groups like PETA or people like wombat say they support "animal rights",  they are talking out their arse.

I'd like to know of even one specific right an animal has. Maybe a list of rights would be helpful.

Sure, mutilating your pet dog is illegal, but that's a human law to control human behavior and has nothing to do with violating the dog's "rights".

So again Wombat, I'd like you to list just one  right an animal has.