Author Topic: Mexican Military on Standby in Response to Minutemen (Read 6018 times)

Elfie · « **Reply #90 on:** April 03, 2005, 01:32:54 PM »

Culero, you can do both. Start punishing employers AND increase border security. We can reverse your argument and it is still true. Eliminate the illegals and the employers have to hire legal citizens and legal aliens.

I once worked for a contractor that decided to get rid of all of his American siding crews in favor of Mexicans. While we were finishing our last house, immigration showed up on the jobsite. Shoulda seen those Mexicans running. The contractor decided it wasnt worth the hassle to have to pay people to finish up the houses the Mexicans left half finished so he rehired all his American crews.

I know the pissed off American carpenter that called Immigration.

Get rid of the illegals that are here now and stop more of them from coming here and the problem is just as solved as your solution.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #91 on:** April 03, 2005, 02:23:44 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
What bigotry? I don't want to give away one cent to any illegal and I want them all removed from the country. They do not deserve to get any public benifits from the US. Screw them all.

They do not deserve: a drivers license, to go to school.....nothing.

Basically they need to stop breaking the law and be deported out of the country. If they get caught here again, it should be tent city for a year.

I suppose you think that people who want our laws respected are bigots.

Nice job in proving my point

ack-ack

Dnil · « **Reply #92 on:** April 03, 2005, 02:31:33 PM »

hmm being against ILLEGALS is now being a bigot.

Guess you can call me a bigot to. Since I am against anything ILLEGAL.

so ack-ack. Do you like illegals in the country?

ASTAC · « **Reply #93 on:** April 03, 2005, 03:44:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Dnil
hmm being against ILLEGALS is now being a bigot.

Guess you can call me a bigot to. Since I am against anything ILLEGAL.

so ack-ack. Do you like illegals in the country?

Thats what the Dems and libs what everybody to think...that enforcing laws against illegals is racist to Latin Americans(to use a Politically Commie "PC" term)...Forget that Laws are broken...and they are bad for us on so many levels..I'd be against Canadians doing the same thing...and don't care much for the Government approved illegal migration of Cubans either (If it is so bad they should take their country back).Hell, you have to know 2 languages in South Florida and I'm sure it's much worse in the southwest..sucks we are the only country in the world that bends to the will of illegal immigrants like that.

Elfie · « **Reply #94 on:** April 03, 2005, 04:04:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Dnil
hmm being against ILLEGALS is now being a bigot.

Guess you can call me a bigot to. Since I am against anything ILLEGAL.

so ack-ack. Do you like illegals in the country?

I guess I am a bigot as well according to that definition. If you are here illegally you should NOT get a drivers liscence, medical care, welfare etc.

I am all for people immigrating to America LEGALLY.

DamnedRen · « **Reply #95 on:** April 03, 2005, 04:08:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Kegger26
this whole thing is reaching a flashpoint pretty quick. Truthfully while I dont want to see any more mexicans crossing over into our boarders.

If we stop them who's gonna do all the work that no one else wants to do? And for peanuts? Like working in the bean and strawberry fields and digging ditches or pouring concrete for $3-4 an hour? You? If they pay you minimum wage would you do it? How about 3 bucks more an hour than minimum wage? To go out and dig ditches in 95 degree weather....So, are you saying they're gonna steal work and food from out of American mouths? To that I say Bolshevik!

Cripes. They come across the border live with a mere 10-12 people in an apartment, make less than minimum wage yet do an honest days work of the type that no one else wants to do. They drive POS cars and pickups, send all of their money home to support their families and only call the immigration service once or twice a year so they can get a free ride home for the holidays and special occasions.

Personally I'd like to open the borders, both ways and retire down there. The weather's great, food's ok and living's cheap. What more could you ask for? Don't we let just about every Canadian who wants to, drive across the borders every day? Tell me the difference. 'Sides Baha California probably wont fall into the ocean during my lifetime .

BTW, I once flew 450 Poilish immigrants from Vienna to New York back in the early '80's. Tell me what those 450 had to offer over any Mexican? They put in for it? Big Deal! Those folks on the plane couldn't even speak a word of English!

Ren

ASTAC · « **Reply #96 on:** April 03, 2005, 04:12:35 PM »

There's always someone who will do it.

Dnil · « **Reply #97 on:** April 03, 2005, 04:24:23 PM »

maybe if there wasnt cheap illegal labor the wages would be legal and people would work there.

How many of those POS cars they drive are insured? Many studies are out as to how the healthcare system is going bankrupt in some cities because of illegals. crime studies also. This is more then I want some one to mow my lawn for cheap.

I am all for LEGAL immigration, bring um on love to have them. This sneaking across the borders and not following the rules is not an option.

Elfie · « **Reply #98 on:** April 03, 2005, 04:27:35 PM »

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BTW, I once flew 450 Poilish immigrants from Vienna to New York back in the early '80's. Tell me what those 450 had to offer over any Mexican? They put in for it? Big Deal! Those folks on the plane couldn't even speak a word of English!

Going thru the immigration process as oppossed to sneaking across the border in the middle of the night makes all the difference in the world imo. Btw, alot of those Mexicans dont speak a word of english either when they first come here. Some of them have such strong accents that they might as well be speaking a different language.

DamnedRen · « **Reply #99 on:** April 03, 2005, 04:34:48 PM »

Bring us your tired your weary! 'Cept La Mex.

Sorry you have your opinion and I have mine. If it came to a vote I'd say let em all in, have no borders! Have the United States of Noth America!:D

Change is in the air! Didn't the European's do that? BTW, what IS a Euro Dollar? Hmmmm, dolla. Dollar. Isn't that an American word? Naw

Ren

ASTAC · « **Reply #100 on:** April 03, 2005, 04:46:36 PM »

All we ask is that they do it by a legal means...Is that such a bad thing to ask?

culero · « **Reply #101 on:** April 03, 2005, 04:51:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfie
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Btw, alot of those Mexicans dont speak a word of english either when they first come here. Some of them have such strong accents that they might as well be speaking a different language.

Imagine that, the nerve of those little brown bastards to not speak the King's English properly!

Sig Heil!

culero (I feel sorry for you)

culero · « **Reply #102 on:** April 03, 2005, 04:53:51 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
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I suppose you think that people who want our laws respected are bigots.

I would reply that those who only want to enforce laws being broken by those of a different culture and are willing to tolerate laws that apply to the same problem being broken by those of their own culture are, by definition, bigots.

culero (look at yerself in the mirror after reading that)

ASTAC · « **Reply #103 on:** April 03, 2005, 04:56:50 PM »

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Originally posted by culero
Imagine that, the nerve of those little brown bastards to not speak the King's English properly!

Sig Heil!

culero (I feel sorry for you)

As an American..go anywhere else where it is the norm to have signs in both the Native language and English...you won't find it...Go anywhere and see if the public schools cater to your "special" needs as a non-official language speaker.

ESOL=English as a SecOnd Language....the most perposterous public school program I've ever heard of.

If they come here..come legally..and once you are here learn English or you are assed out.

culero · « **Reply #104 on:** April 03, 2005, 05:02:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfie
Culero, you can do both. Start punishing employers AND increase border security. snip

You're missing my point, and I fear its because you don't want to face it.

I also want to get exactly where you do - that we don't have a flood of illegal immigrants.

My point is that if we clean up OUR OWN HOUSE (by eliminating the illegal jobs at their source) we'll have already gone a long way toward drying up the flow of illegal immigrants. What part of "If there's no jobs they won't have a reason to come" do you not understand?

Why are you so keen to spend money on border security when it simply wouldn't be necessary if we fixed things here?

Look at it this way - you have rats in your house. They are there because you're filthy in your housekeeping, and leave food sources out in the open all over.

Do you spend huge sums on traps and poison, all the while leaving all that food out to entice them to keep coming?

Or do you solve the problem sensibly by cleaning your damn house, plus a little bit of rodent control?

I think what's at play here is people who resent people of other cultures so much they want to blame them for everything, punish them for everything, and ignore everything else that's a factor.

Shades of Kristallnacht. Sig Heil!

culero