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« Reply #135 on: April 03, 2005, 06:55:30 PM »
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This is so short sighted and wrong that I don't feel like expending the effort.  Tumor, do me a favor? Pick up my share of the tab for what you are advocating.

Culero is not advocating what you  suggest, btw.


There's no cheap alternative for either of us.
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« Reply #136 on: April 03, 2005, 07:05:09 PM »
It's day two.... Any update? Are they making a dent? Any gunplay or anything like that?
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« Reply #137 on: April 03, 2005, 07:19:54 PM »
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It's day two.... Any update? Are they making a dent? Any gunplay or anything like that?


Can't find any news..still alot of coverage about the Pope overshadowing all other current events
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« Reply #138 on: April 03, 2005, 07:41:41 PM »
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I would reply that those who only want to enforce laws being broken by those of a different culture and are willing to tolerate laws that apply to the same problem being broken by those of their own culture are, by definition, bigots.

culero (look at yerself in the mirror after reading that)


so then you agree that I am not a bigot, because I want to treat ALL illegals exactly the same. I want them thrown out of the country and I do not want even one of them to get one red cent of US taxpayer support.

Glad we agree.
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« Reply #139 on: April 03, 2005, 07:47:49 PM »
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My point stands, you're wrong to suggest the illegal immigration problem is not as much our fault as it is theirs.


I just can't find where I said it wasn't our fault too.  Mind pointing it out to me?


While we're at it do you seriously believe that if Mexico's economy was strong and there were plenty of jobs for the people that they would be illegally coming here?  Seriously?

I mean I must be wrong about this, right?  There are millions of people crossing illegally from Canada too then , right?
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« Reply #140 on: April 03, 2005, 08:16:27 PM »
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Which is exactly what I've been trying to get folks to see all along. (Especially that its the illegal employers here that's the ROOT of the problem).

culero


I believe the root of the problem lies in Mexico's low standard of living. You will never find all the employers that hire illegals. There will always be someone willing to hire them. Your solution isnt as simple as you make it out to be. The costs of investigating and prosecuting every employer you find that has illegals on his/her payroll will be enormous.

The simplest solution is to close the border.

I'm not against Mexican's or anyone else for that matter coming here legally.
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« Reply #141 on: April 03, 2005, 10:00:30 PM »
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I agree...I can live with a plan that would legalize the ones already here..make them citizens and subject to all federal laws...especially taxes and such....try harder to keep new illegals out...and crack down on employers (probrably the biggest/hardest part)



That's pretty much what Culero and I have been advocating.  If you want to cut down on the illegal immigration, you need to go after the "why", which in this case are the employers who employ them as cheap labor.  

It's like the drug war, you'll never win going after the supply until you get rid of the demand.

And at least in California, you need to show proof of citizenship to get on state welfare such as Medical and the like.  IIRC, it's the same for federal welfare.  Blaming illegal immigrants for the state of our welfare system is just a smoke screen used by the politicians to mask how badly they've screwed it up.


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« Reply #142 on: April 03, 2005, 10:02:39 PM »
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Thats what the Dems and libs what everybody to think...



It would probably be a kick to your bellybutton to know that I'm a registered Republican, have been since 1988.  

The horror, a Hispanic that's conservative and votes.



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« Reply #143 on: April 03, 2005, 10:10:36 PM »
Are "republican" and "conservative" the same thing anymore?

These things move so fast....
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« Reply #144 on: April 03, 2005, 10:19:24 PM »
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Are "republican" and "conservative" the same thing anymore?

These things move so fast....


yup same goes for Democrat, liberal,Socialist, communist, idiot, pansy, an non-gendernormative.

Once they all went hand in hand but today it's just so hard to tell.  I mean you really have to look hard to see.  In todays day an age you really have to make sure first.
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« Reply #145 on: April 03, 2005, 10:22:04 PM »
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Julius Caesar changed the European calendar to 365 1/4 days in 45 BC with no knowledge to the Mayan people.

The Mayan Calander ends December 21st, 2012 AD for some reason.


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« Reply #146 on: April 03, 2005, 10:52:58 PM »
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Are "republican" and "conservative" the same thing anymore?

These things move so fast....



The far right has blurred the definition of what a Conservative Republican is.  I consider myself to be a fiscal conservative, which was the original meaning of a conservative Republican.


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« Reply #147 on: April 03, 2005, 10:53:32 PM »
Hey AKAK, please don't think I am a bigot...I am not......and to hate or discriminate is 100% opposed to my beliefs.

 When I was talking about Chula Vista on 200 the other night, I was trolling you......I let a squad mate know before I typed.
Actually ( as I told my squadie) Chula Vista is a beatiful place and I gave been there several times.

As far as my stance on imigration, I hope you can understand that I am in  no way angry with nor am I targeting any race or group. I just want the illegal imigration stopped and it's frustrating for me that it goes on like it has.
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« Reply #148 on: April 03, 2005, 11:32:59 PM »
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so then you agree that I am not a bigot, because I want to treat ALL illegals exactly the same. I want them thrown out of the country and I do not want even one of them to get one red cent of US taxpayer support.

Glad we agree.


No, we don't.

I note you still avoid addressing the fact that we are rife with citizens providing the source that attracs illegal immigrants. So long as you seem willing to ignore that, therefore giving consent by silence to that practice, and focus strictly on measures that are punitive to foreigners, it will appear to me that you are, in fact, prejudiced against a class of people and therefore a bigot.

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« Reply #149 on: April 03, 2005, 11:35:26 PM »
culero, you are ignorant.

I want our laws enforced, plain and simple. If you insist on calling me a bigot, I will complain to HTC ( for the first time I  ever have) about you.
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