Turning The Tables George Galloway

[john9001]

Originally posted by Nash
Well in this case, lets consider that the body is the world, and that Hitler was the wart.

Now we know that the wart didn't pose a real threat to the body right? That should be clear now, right? The wart had zero ability to rise up from the foot and punch the world in the face, for example. It could not suck the brain down through a leg and devour it. It was just a pain in the foot.


A cost/benefit analysis is needed at this point. A few questions immediately surface:

1) What cost is worth the removal of the pain? One range will be acceptable, and another range will be unacceptable.

2) Are all options of removal on the table? Or is one set of options acceptable, and another set unacceptable?

3) Is there a confluence of acceptable costs and acceptable options relative to the importance of removing the pain?

Keep in mind that the body experiences many different forms of pain. So you might just decide to ignore the wart and get rid of your back pain by drinking more water, for example. Not everything needs immediate and focused attention, just because it happens to be a source of pain.

Ridding yourself of pain in one area by any means available is not always the best move. And ridding yourself of pain does not inherently justify every possible way with which to rid yourself of the pain simply because it is pain. Just ask any vicodin addict.

In this analogy, having carte blanche in removing a wart by any means, with no regard to your entire health, with no regard to your bank account, and with no regard to the raised eyebrows it would cause, seems the act of a nutjob.

Not justification.

nash is right , the USA should have never attacked france and germany in WW2, they were no threat to the USA

[Nash]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
ok just for you and the sake of discussion I edited it.

You're such a p***y!

[john9001]

nash, we know what you are.

[Nash]

Originally posted by john9001
"...the USA should have never attacked france and germany..."

But France fricken DESERVED the beating that the US gave them.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Nash
You're such a p***y!

didn't want to upset the balance here but thanks for the insult

[Steve]

Ok Nash you want analogies?  2 billion represents just .00004 of our gross domestic product for just 1 year. Let's say we've been in Iraq for around two years.  That means we've spent approximately .00002 of one years GDP on Iraq.  Let's say you make 60k a year.  By your comparison, it would cost you .00002 of your annual income to get rid of your plantars wart, that's $1.20.
That's right, about one dollar and twenty cents.

Sounds like it would be money well spent by you.



Take it!

[Nash]

didn't want to upset the balance here but thanks for the insult

Balance?

Equating being well spoken with being evil (or more precisely, Hitler) didn't upset any balance here. Lets not kid ourselves. In the world known as the AH BBS, the integrity of any balance was not challenged. Just more grist for the mill.

And you take offence to me calling you a p**sy?

I'll let you and y'all draw yer own conclusions.

[Nash]

Originally posted by Steve
Ok Nash you want analogies?  2 billion represents just .00004 of our gross domestic product for just 1 year. Let's say we've been in Iraq for around two years.  That means we've spent approximately .00002 of one years GDP on Iraq.  Let's say you make 60k a year.  By your comparison, it would cost you .00002 of your annual income to get rid of your plantars wart, that's $1.20.
That's right, about one dollar and twenty cents.

Sounds like it would be money well spent by you.

Take it!

I assume by this that you think you are the ones bankrolling your war?

Ah yes, Steve from the great state of Arizona. "Ditat Deus." God Enriches.

Indeed. Arizona is ponying up about two and a half billion dollars for the war - so far, today. More tomorrow.

Or on second thought.... make that two and a half billion dollars more in debt.

Either way - pretend that you are the Governor of Arizona with that kind of scratch to do with what needs doing. Are you guys without problems?

I hope for your sake that God really does enrich. You might need the extra cash.

[oboe]

Originally posted by john9001
nash is right , the USA should have never attacked france and germany in WW2, they were no threat to the USA

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard] the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!"
[runs out, alone; then returns]
"What the f*k happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my prettythang from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Galloway, he's a dead man! Al-Zarqawi, dead! Hussein..."

[Steve]

I hope for your sake that God really does enrich. You might need the extra cash.

Nah, I've got plenty of cash and live in the most powerful, most benevolent nation to ever grace the face of this planet.  you don't.


Take it!

[Nash]

Take it?

I'm doing just swimmingly thank you very much.

[Steve]

Excellent Nash. I'm glad to hear it!

so many people are jealous of how well us Americans do and relish when we fall on our face; they can't pass up an opportunity to criticize us. Yet the bulk of us simply wish and hope that everyone succeeds.

One of the curses of being an American.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Steve
Ok Nash you want analogies?  2 billion represents just .00004 of our gross domestic product for just 1 year. Let's say we've been in Iraq for around two years.  That means we've spent approximately .00002 of one years GDP on Iraq.  Let's say you make 60k a year.  By your comparison, it would cost you .00002 of your annual income to get rid of your plantars wart, that's $1.20.
That's right, about one dollar and twenty cents.

Sounds like it would be money well spent by you.

Take it!

http://www.bea.gov/bea/dn/home/gdp.htm

GDP for 2004  11,735 billions
cost of iraq war 2 years = 207.5 billion

That equals .018 of  One years national GDP

not .00002 or whatever # you got.

207 billion is no small number no matter what analogy you compare it to. And that wart would cost a 60ker 1080 to remove not 1.20.

http://costofwar.com/numbers.html

The first included approximately $54.4 billion for the Iraq War (enacted in April 2003); the second $70.6 billion (enacted November 2003), and the third $21.5 billion (passed as part of regular appropriations for the Department of Defense for fiscal year 2005). The Administration made a fourth request in February 2005 for $81.9 billion of which $61 billion is related to the Iraq War.

[Nash]

Well Steve, I can tell you a bit about being an American and not being an American because I've been both.

Know what it means? Pretty much dick all.

Spare me any jealousy rant because guess what? Most folks aren't jealous. Ask..... Nilsen, for example, if when he looks out from his beachfront house in Norway that he feels like he's missing out by not living in Arizona. Give me a break.

There will be a puzzled look on his face, and then he will tell you to go pound sand. That goes for just about anyone.

So okay? High horse? Step down.

What any of this has to do with your incredibly stupid invasion of Iraq eludes me. The invasion was right because people are (not) jealous?

What goes on in minds like yours?

[Gixer]

Funny, never in my life have I heard someone say they are jealous of Americans. Yet I hear that from Americans all the time.

You should remember that a person might come from the  poorest,smallest country in the world and of a poor up-bringing or life yet they will always think of it as "home" and have the same level of patriotism towards it as you do for yours.


...-Gixer