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« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2005, 01:30:53 AM »
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After all this one is dedicated to angst and we're really not in that mode, are we?


Not really. :)

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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2005, 01:37:14 AM »
i disagree, but perhaps you might define what that same "thing" is for me?

are you refferring to the fact that all religions share the same version of the afterlife or to the adherence to dogma?

perhaps you were refferring to reincarnation then?  do all of those religions on a macro level do this?

hm.

ok.  but what about the whole ONE god thingy?

that is certainly consistant with eastern mysticism and philosophy and the catholic church, oh wait...no it isnt.

hm.

wait.  perhaps it is love thy neighbor.

funny thing is...people think that when you speak of tao that you are speaking of good.

that when you speak of the buddha that you are neccessarilly invoking light.

i suppose that there is some commonality between "not having excessive sexual urges" and chastity.

ok.  thats good.

and maybe even islam and christianity with the package deals that offer virgin love slaves (which is good) or the right hand of god (which is good too) for being a martyr.  thats pretty close.

it is easy to make simple statements based upon false logic or wishful thinking.

or skimming for that matter.

but thats just it.  and that's what freedom means to me.  the right to chose for myself without a state committee doing it for me.

im a big boy.  ill figure it out for myself thanks.

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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2005, 01:48:27 AM »
Hey, good post.

Kinda bothers me that Toad is embarking on a spiritual path and at the same time trying to discount or dismiss away much of it due to some commonality. I mean, if you're doing that... just hang it up. It's not going to get ya anywhere. You're in it for the wrong reasons.

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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2005, 01:49:52 AM »
"Embarked", past tense. Long past. And don't assume.  ;)
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2005, 01:51:14 AM »
exactly.
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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2005, 01:56:36 AM »
Toad, correct me if I'm wrong.... but you've had some recent health problems. Your posts since then have hinted at spirituality. You even asked Seagoon for guidance in a recent post. And now you're reading Dyer.

I appreciate that you've looked into it in the past, but I'm also taking a stab at it by saying that your curiousity has picked up a certain amount of speed very recently.

Don't start acting like the expert here. If you're serious, don't start dissecting it. It's what they do. Won't help you.

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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2005, 02:59:38 AM »
you punk colonialists have had your time on your own, realised it sucks and you are better off with us - its time to rejoin the empire, rule britannia! :D
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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2005, 03:16:34 AM »
ahhh.  the fop speaks.
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« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2005, 04:46:07 AM »
Sorry no doubt you will all fell terribly pissed off that I dare to open my mouth on a subject about America but hey.

I don't know the details but it seems to me JB is disturbed because he acualy is concerned about how he, as an American and his nation and fellows, are percieved in the wider world and by others as a result of these Legislative and Government actions.
It Also seems that he is concerned how these actions might affect his fellow citizens regardless of how they directly impinge upon himself.

This surely is admirable. Whether you agree or not with his fear. The fact that he thinks beyond his own little world and life. Hats off to you.

Toad you came right back with

"Exactly how has your life changed due to all this oppression?
What is it you can no longer do that you could do before?"

Sorry but that indicates to me you think only in terms of how things affect you yourself and thats all that matters. That my freinds is how many of us now view your nation. Full of people who care nothing for others as long as they are OK or us others are doing what you think is right.

Now I know that is not neccesarily the case but neverthelss that is the not so admirable message we are getting. You might one day think it wise to stop berating us and examione why that is so.

Then again you will probably come back at me with with the usual bug off you Amerihater nyah nyah not listening crap.

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« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2005, 04:55:10 AM »
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I payed my way through college ...


Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.  How did you get through college while being such a poor speller?
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« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2005, 04:56:51 AM »
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It Also seems that he is concerned how these actions might affect his fellow citizens regardless of how they directly impinge upon himself.


Actually he's just a leftwing nutjob.
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« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2005, 05:01:34 AM »
Well if not being a selfish self obsessed A*** and actualy caring a hoot about your fellow citizens in your country and on this planet makes you a leftwing nutjob. Countme in I'm one too!


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« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2005, 05:02:07 AM »
I luv this country too!..Viva la Canada!!!
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« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2005, 05:04:52 AM »
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Countme in I'm one too!


This is well documented, but for other glaring reasons than what you mentioned here.


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« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2005, 06:20:52 AM »
Have you even read the new Bankrupcy law amendments? If not you should if your going to complain about them....
 Is it the fact that amending the corporate loopholes so business's couldn't hide pre filing laundering to hide company assets that worries you...
Or could it be the amendments that limit the abuse holes in the previous bankruptcy laws that allowed people to play the system and never have to pay back cc debt after filing, or even allowed them to continue to spend and acquire cc's further ringing up debt knowing they could never pay it back?

Its a Liberal thing right...  Once filing for bankruptcy one should be forgiven totally for all debts. Kind of like a Get out of financial hotwater monopoly yellow ticket..
 
The previous laws needed some rewriting to stop the players of the game not unlike a software game where a few figured out how to game a hole in the game...