Author Topic: What to do with American Taliban John Walker? (Read 4948 times)

batdog · « **Reply #30 on:** December 21, 2001, 01:37:00 PM »

Yea... I feel for him. I bet he'd never take aim and blow some GI away would he? Naaaaa... never. Give me friggen break.
Hang his bellybutton from a tree, bury him in an unmarked grave and walk away. He's a filthy POS.

xBAT

StSanta · « **Reply #31 on:** December 21, 2001, 01:39:00 PM »

There's the legal side of it, which'll make it hard to try him for treason.

Then there's also what Kieran just said: if he got you in his sights in Afghanistan, he would have opened up.

This must be remembered.

midnight Target · « **Reply #32 on:** December 21, 2001, 01:55:00 PM »

I'm looking back to see where I said anything about forgiving this kid......nope. He is lower than a creeping slime mold and deserves the worst the NA has to offer.

OTOH blaming all of the "liberals" in Marin County or anywhere else for John Walker without looking to see where all those people wearing white sheets come from is just STUPID! This is about an idiot kid from an idiot family. Stop trying to make some kind of ludicrous point about your right wing agenda out of it.

easymo · « **Reply #33 on:** December 21, 2001, 01:57:00 PM »

This guy is the first thing since 9.11 that scares me a bit. Much more than spookey stories, by the media, about germ war fare, and dirty bombs.

Individually he is just a dumb bellybutton punk. But, imagine him used by UBL. No home land security measure would stop the guy. Some rich white kid from Cal. Come on, they would never take a second look.

On top of that, the politicians could use a guy like this, as an excuse to start chipping away at our constitutional rights. This, the most likely, and troubling of the two.

We need to see him hung. As a message to other fruit cakes. And for our own piece of mind.

Toad · « **Reply #34 on:** December 21, 2001, 02:05:00 PM »

When he was only 17 they deemed him mature enough to don turban and robes and take a voyage to Yemen. Now that he's 20 and has arrived at the Taliban terminus of his personal journey, suddenly he's too young to know his own mind.

Responsibility & Accountability. That's all there is too it, really.

He made his choice; time now to stand accountable for it.

ET · « **Reply #35 on:** December 21, 2001, 02:39:00 PM »

Don't call him a kid.He is a man fully grown and responsible for his own decisions no matter how and where he grew up.We have fighting men over there the same age and younger than he is.I'm sure some of them had worse upbringings and still made the right decisions.
Give him to the Northern Alliance.They captured him.We will probably see a repeat of the O.J.circus if they bring him here.

Udie · « **Reply #36 on:** December 21, 2001, 02:46:00 PM »

Hmmm I wonder what john "Mike" Span's family thinks about it? or what the 10,000 plus orphans from 9-11 will think when they're old enough to understand?

side note:

I lived in Marin Co. for about 6 months when I was 17. Party towns

I lived in Kentfield...

Isn't Marin in the district that Condit represents? Just an interesting thought...

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midnight Target · « **Reply #37 on:** December 21, 2001, 02:55:00 PM »

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Don't call him a kid.He is a man fully grown and responsible for his own decisions

Didn't mean to imply he wasn't. I call everyone his age a kid, including 18yr old soldiers....and they are kids compared to me.

But please try to do better than to pick nits out of the sentences. What you wrote has no relevence to the overall meaning of the post.

midnight Target · « **Reply #38 on:** December 21, 2001, 02:57:00 PM »

Condit represents Modesto not Marin....Modesto is farm country and usually VERY Republican.

Kieran · « **Reply #39 on:** December 21, 2001, 03:04:00 PM »

I don't know a thing about Marin County and don't care to. It is totally irrelevant, as you say.

There isn't a whole lot of thinking that needs to be applied here, except perhaps how best to do what needs done.

Easymo, that is exactly what I was alluding to higher in the thread. Domestic terrorists are much harder to catch. No way they let this guy walk- it sets a precedent we cannot live with.

Udie · « **Reply #40 on:** December 21, 2001, 03:09:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Tah Gut:
Condit represents Modesto not Marin....Modesto is farm country and usually VERY Republican.

hehe Modesto is like 20 or so miles north of Marin if I remember, to me that qualifies as the same area

Real nice country over there, I used to love taking acid and riding my bike up Mt. Tam. OH those were the days. I do have to say though that of all the places I've lived, that place had the highest amount of strange people per capita. But it's so freakin beautiful up there that it's easy to over look the wierdo's.

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They gave McVeigh the needle, I don't see how they can not give this guy the same punishment. The media keeps calling this punk an "American Taliban" Well he said himself that he was Al Queda. So in my view he is at a minimum partialy responsible and totaly punishable for september 11.

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midnight Target · « **Reply #41 on:** December 21, 2001, 03:24:00 PM »

Hehe, musta been the good stuff Udie. Modesto is 100 miles east of Marin in the central valley.

Very different in terms of both country and temperament. I agree with you about the Marin area though. There is a reason that it has one of the highest real estate values in the country.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #42 on:** December 21, 2001, 03:26:00 PM »

I don't really understand what the problem is... it seems he should be treated the same as any Taliban captured in Afghanistan. Turn him over to the Afghan government and let them decide his fate.

Just make it clear that he will not be re-issued a US passport for the one he "lost".

AKDejaVu

Udie · « **Reply #43 on:** December 21, 2001, 03:44:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Tah Gut:
Hehe, musta been the good stuff Udie. Modesto is 100 miles east of Marin in the central valley.

Very different in terms of both country and temperament. I agree with you about the Marin area though. There is a reason that it has one of the highest real estate values in the country.

I must be thinking of Napa Valley, it was back in '87 when I lived there so...

last hijack post I promise

[edit] I was thinking about Navato. Sorry my mistake

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GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #44 on:** December 21, 2001, 06:27:00 PM »

Well trotski what can I say you found me out.....

But seriously belive it or not Ive got nothing against gays except on a political level. Really the same gripe I have against any of the "special" groups around these days. Its basically their BS that they wanna be seen/treated the same as everyone else, except of course when it might benefit them. Heres an example:

A guy I knew from Junior High decided to "come out" in the school newspaper, writing a delightful little article about his "Starry night in the Castro" (Castro District of SF, a sort of Gay Mecca)where he described a night out of dancing with his boyfriend and all that. No problem with that its his business and his life experience to enjoy and express. But soon he gets some gay hero scolarship from the State and gets pretty much accepted to any University he wants. Yea the gays arent any diffiernt and shouldnt be treated any different, riiiiight.

Toad has the right idea though my comment is directed at the permissive and culturally relativstic parents that just say every culure is OK and there is no such thing as bad chioces and lifestyles. Its directed at that and you all know even and especially if you dont want to admit it that many SF Bay Area gays are among the leading members of that line of thought.

Remember trotski gays are no diffrent than anyone, this also means they are open to free criticism like everyone else.

No more double standards.

And again about Johnny Talib:

kill